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On February 04 2012 09:09 prplhz wrote: @mderg Do you want a no-lynch? Do you think that Timeaisis is town?
I want a lynch. But I´m not totally convinced of Timeaisis being scum (more than Sentinel, though,), so I didn´t vote him for now. Since there´s no other option right now I´ll pace my vote on Timeaisis.
Vote: Timeaisis
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@mderg
You need to format your vote right
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@prplhz Timeaisis responded to his accusations. They make sense.
Also, Sentinel is going down in threat level to me as time passes, still suspicious though.
##Unvote: [UoN]Sentinel
Onto my next most suspected who is
##Vote: prplhz
Being right about Sentinel definitely doesn't make you innocent.
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@BaronFel
I already explained my "turn around of character", you can read my filter from Reponsibility Mafia! where I act weird in the beginning of the game too. There's nothing wrong with changing your character as long as you have a reason for the things you do, which I have had in this game, and explained. It's perfectly normal of you to be uneasy with me because I derped around in the beginning though, which was the biggest backside of my attempt to kickstart discussion. Look at Palmar in XLVIII where he fake claims dayvig on day1 and loses all town credit for the rest of the game even though he's not only right but he's also known as being very persuasive.
Also, as long as I'm making sense you should really think I'm town, which means do not push for my lynch. But as for all people you think are town (and all other people too), you should keep an eye (or both) on them. No one is confirmed until they flip.
@Bluelightz I'm not saying he's 100%, I'm saying he's our best bid and I want a lynch today. I'm not really impressed by those 5 words. Look at how he reacted to the initial accusations in an offended resigning way like he knew he was already dead. It was only after TheToast started defending him that he actually started trusting in himself which is not how I think that newbie town would react. They mostly just play their newbie card even more in my experience. All game long he's been trying not to step on anybodies' toes while still keeping as many options open as possible and he's still managed to contradict himself as shown in EchelonTee's analysis.
A last minute vote switch is always a bit creepy but whatever.
@Sinensis Good luck rofl.
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@Sinensis I understand that you are pretty frustrated right now and that's perfectly alright. I hope we can still be pals after the game <3
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Yeah, I'm keeping my eye on everyone. I'm just not a fan of first rounds where everyone has to go by gut feelings or super small signs that may just be nothing, unless someone acts really off when suspicion is on them.
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On February 04 2012 09:15 sinani206 wrote:OK, I don't think you people understand. Get your fucking votes on Sentinel or Timeasis. We can't risk a NL on Day 1. In case you don't understand, Show nested quote +This game uses Extended Majority Lynch. That is, at the deadline the player with a majority of votes is lynched (majority = 1/2 the remaining players, rounded down + 1), if no one has a majority then no lynch will take place. THIS MEANS YOU: Bluelightz Vilonis TheToast BaronFel mdergAlso @prplhz: lol
Nope, I'm good right where I am. Timeaisis or Sentinel may be scum, but I don't think there is enough evidence against either one.
Since you all seem to have rejected the logic of my plan, I hope you all get really lucky.
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On February 04 2012 09:44 BaronFel wrote: Yeah, I'm keeping my eye on everyone. I'm just not a fan of first rounds where everyone has to go by gut feelings or super small signs that may just be nothing, unless someone acts really off when suspicion is on them. Yea it sucks but if you think about it, nothing really changes in the following days. Imagine day2 where one of us has flipped town, does that make him more right? No it doesn't, being dead doesn't make you right. The only thing that changes is that you can trust the dead guys' gut reads, but how can you be sure that their guts are right? You can't.
This is why no-flip games can still work. In a no-flip game every day is essentially day1 (more or less) and they can still be won by town. Pretty sure they're generally considered more difficult to win for town than flip games though, but you get my point.
@TheToast I'm hoping we get really lucky too! Day1 is always unreliable as hell, best thing you can do is hit a guy who doesn't make sense and who looks like he's scum and ideally who's not very active.
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On February 04 2012 09:39 prplhz wrote:@BaronFel I already explained my "turn around of character", you can read my filter from Reponsibility Mafia! where I act weird in the beginning of the game too. There's nothing wrong with changing your character as long as you have a reason for the things you do, which I have had in this game, and explained. It's perfectly normal of you to be uneasy with me because I derped around in the beginning though, which was the biggest backside of my attempt to kickstart discussion. Look at Palmar in XLVIII where he fake claims dayvig on day1 and loses all town credit for the rest of the game even though he's not only right but he's also known as being very persuasive. Also, as long as I'm making sense you should really think I'm town, which means do not push for my lynch. But as for all people you think are town (and all other people too), you should keep an eye (or both) on them. No one is confirmed until they flip.
@Bluelightz I'm not saying he's 100%, I'm saying he's our best bid and I want a lynch today. I'm not really impressed by those 5 words. Look at how he reacted to the initial accusations in an offended resigning way like he knew he was already dead. It was only after TheToast started defending him that he actually started trusting in himself which is not how I think that newbie town would react. They mostly just play their newbie card even more in my experience. All game long he's been trying not to step on anybodies' toes while still keeping as many options open as possible and he's still managed to contradict himself as shown in EchelonTee's analysis.
A last minute vote switch is always a bit creepy but whatever.
@Sinensis Good luck rofl.
First time I've seen prplhz go after Bluelightz. That's interesting, and he makes a really good point and I like this change of character where he's actually explaining everything. Plus TheToast makes another great case for him.
I can definitely support a lynch on Bluelightz.
##Unvote: prplhz
##Vote: Bluelightz
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As I said before, it doesn't seem to matter what I do now. And since Bluelightz has always been suspicious, I have no gripe changing my vote now. Doesn't really seem to matter, anyway.
##Unvote: [UoN]Sentinel ##Vote: Bluelightz
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Why do people find prplhz suspicious?
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Sinensis your vote didn't get changed. I think you need to bold it.
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##Unvote: prplhz
##Vote: Bluelightz
sorry
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Well, all the arguments I've seen have been answered, and I got back at the time promised.
There was one somewhere who posted "I think GM wouldn't have set Time as mafia for balance reasons", I think now that we've gotten that out of the way I'm pretty much 100% on Time (no pun intended).
Now that the votes are off me, I need to get some sleep. Other than a 3-hour nap yesterday I haven't gotten any sleep in the last two days and I can't think anymore.
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Even though I hate last minute vote switching I guess to make sure we have a lynch d1.
##Unvote: mderg ##Vote: Timeaisis
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You guys are about to kill a townie just because prplhz said "Well it's obviously Sentinel or Timeaisis"
This is so obvious.
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On February 04 2012 10:33 Bluelightz wrote: Even though I hate last minute vote switching I guess to make sure we have a lynch d1.
##Unvote: mderg ##Vote: Timeaisis
Let's have a look at the vote tallies as of right now:
On February 02 2012 08:11 ZBot wrote: Votecount for day 1. With twelve alive it takes 7 to lynch.
Current votes:
Timeaisis (7): [UoN]Sentinel, EchelonTee, prplhz, BaronFel, Nisani201, Vilonis, mderg
Bluelightz (3): TheToast, Timeaisis, Sinensis
mderg (1): Bluelightz
[UoN]Sentinel (1): Nisani201, mderg, Timeaisis, Sinensis, sinani206, -mderg, -Nisani201, -Sinensis, -Timeaisis
Nisani201 (0): Vilonis, -Vilonis
sinani206 (0): prplhz, -prplhz
Vilonis (0): Timeaisis, -Timeaisis
prplhz (0): Sinensis, -Sinensis
Sinensis (0): Bluelightz, -Bluelightz, prplhz, [UoN]Sentinel, Bluelightz, BaronFel, -Bluelightz, -[UoN]Sentinel, -prplhz, -BaronFel
Not voting:
The Day deadline is at 2012-02-04 12:00:00. (That's approximately 1:28:34 from now.)
Let's assume that we are all right about Sinesis and that he is in fact not mafia. That leaves only three conclusions possible at this point:
1: I am Mafia. 2: Mafia is voting for one of their own 3: You all are wrong about Timeaisis
I suppose that #2 is possible, they have decided that by piling on top of time the remaining two can go unseen. But since at this exact moment it would only take one of them to change their votes to save Time, I find this unlikely.
However I sure hope it's #2, because #3 is looking really likely right now...
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Sorry, I suppose it would take both the remaining mafia members to change their votes to save Time, I still think they would do it though.
On February 04 2012 10:36 Sinensis wrote: You guys are about to kill a townie just because prplhz said "Well it's obviously Sentinel or Timeaisis"
This is so obvious.
I'm thinking this is very likely the case.
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