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On June 20 2011 03:57 gtrsrs wrote:Show nested quote +On June 20 2011 03:55 gtrsrs wrote:
again i want to point out that i am claiming medic. i won't get a chance to use my powers since i will be dying tonight. but it is *imperative* that you lynch drazerk or xedat today instead of me. letting me die will put you at 9 townies tomorrow which is a HUGE set-back. sorry, 6* townies, 3 mafia. 9 villagers total. also since some of you will be skeptical of my claim: last game i was willing to die to get iGrok lynched. this game my play has changed (you have incorrectly labelled it as "passive" when really it's just more "conservative") but what's key to note is that i am NOT going to martyr myself to get Drazerk lynched. if you lynch me today you are gamethrowing, i'm NOT a vanilla townie whose life is expendable to get the GF lynched. you MUST lynch mafia today
You claim you was expendable the last game?
Well so was i and i was doing the exact same thing as i am now
Your no Townie but your no power role either
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On June 20 2011 04:03 gtrsrs wrote:
if there are no counterclaims to medic and you vote me, you are gamethrowing, plain and simple.
Why the hell would anyone count claim?
That would be stupid and something you wish to do in order to discover our medic in order to take the game with your remaining Scum Buddies
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On June 20 2011 04:03 gtrsrs wrote:
if there are no counterclaims to medic and you vote me, you are gamethrowing or mafia, plain and simple.
*good mafia will keep their vote on me now so they don't have to waste a night-kill. mafia voting for me are not gamethrowing.
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there won't be any counterclaims... If you're mafia, why should the real medic/DT counterclaim and give away his role, only to reinforce your lynch... That would be stupid pretty stupid... And if you are the real Medic and there isn't another powerrole, no one will counterclaim either.
What's the votecount so far?
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On June 20 2011 04:10 supersoft wrote:
there won't be any counterclaims... If you're mafia, why should the real medic/DT counterclaim and give away his role, only to reinforce your lynch... That would be stupid pretty stupid... And if you are the real Medic and there isn't another powerrole, no one will counterclaim either.
What's the votecount so far?
This is a very good point
Only mafia know what the possible game type is
Got a role blocker with your Scum Friends?
Or are you the roleblocker
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there's 6 on me
3 mafia 3 townies
the three townies need to switch votes to drazerk
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On June 20 2011 04:13 Drazerk wrote:Show nested quote +On June 20 2011 04:10 supersoft wrote:
there won't be any counterclaims... If you're mafia, why should the real medic/DT counterclaim and give away his role, only to reinforce your lynch... That would be stupid pretty stupid... And if you are the real Medic and there isn't another powerrole, no one will counterclaim either.
What's the votecount so far? This is a very good point Only mafia know what the possible game type is Got a role blocker with your Scum Friends? Or are you the roleblocker
just shut up, jesus
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On June 20 2011 04:13 gtrsrs wrote:
there's 6 on me
3 mafia 3 townies
the three townies need to switch votes to drazerk
You keep saying that yet the only thing you have against me is my own idioticy and me changing my vote to you when I decided to Martyr
Im fine with me dying as i know you would die the day after where if you was medic you would not take that risk
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On June 20 2011 04:03 gtrsrs wrote:
if there are no counterclaims to medic and you vote me, you are gamethrowing, plain and simple.
Let's break this down shall we?
1 Mafia Role Blocker, 2 Mafia Goons, 7 Town, 1 Medic, 1 Detective
1 Mafia Role Blocker, 2 Mafia Goons, 9 Town
3 Mafia Goons, 1 Medic, 8 Town.
3 Mafia Goons, 1 Detective, 8 Town.
Are the 4 setups. Now you are claiming we are in setup 1 or 3.
Now let's say we are in setup 3 for simplicity sake.
Case 1: Your Town
This claim saves your skin day 1 and you gets killed night 1. You martyr yourself.
Case 2: Your Medic
This claim saves your skin day 1 and gets you killed night 1. You still die.
Case 3: Your scum
This claim saves your skin day 1 and lets you become a confirmed townie. You will try and flush out any other blue role that counter claims so you can kill them.
Hey guess what? There is only one scenario that claiming is optimal and that's if your scum.
If you were really blue you turned a 99% chance of death into a 100% chance of death. Real smart.
The ONLY alternative way I could see this being a optimal move is if your vanilla town assuming its setup 1 or 3 and attempting to draw mafia fire at night while you hope the medic tries to save you. But that's wayyyyy too many layers of WIFOM for it to be a credible defense.
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On June 20 2011 04:15 Drazerk wrote:Show nested quote +On June 20 2011 04:13 gtrsrs wrote:
there's 6 on me
3 mafia 3 townies
the three townies need to switch votes to drazerk You keep saying that yet the only thing you have against me is my own idioticy and me changing my vote to you when I decided to Martyr Im fine with me dying as i know you would die the day after where if you was medic you would not take that risk
i'm starting to think that you're town, which scares me
between someone claiming town and someone claiming medic i don't see why you'd lynch the medic
if you don't lynch me today, mafia will obviously kill me tonight. i die either way.
if for some reason, they choose to keep me alive because of how suspicious i look, then i have a chance to save someone tonight. it's lose-lose to lynch me and if this is not obvious, then i don't know what to say
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aprudds, the word YOU'RE looking for is "you're"
"your" is indicative of possession
"Case 1: Your Town" indicates that i own the town, which clearly isn't true
please try re-writing that in english
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On June 20 2011 04:21 gtrsrs wrote:
aprudds, the word YOU'RE looking for is "you're"
"your" is indicative of possession
"Case 1: Your Town" indicates that i own the town, which clearly isn't true
please try re-writing that in english
LOL U MAD?
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Not to derail this little cat fight, but...
aprudds, this is starting to really bug me:
your = possessive pronoun
you're = you are
if you're too lazy to use an apostrophe, just do what 12 year old girls use: "ur"
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Noted, will correct in the future.
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Pyo I see that you voted gtrsrs for his behaviour. Is there any other reasons? Just wondering because aprudds behaviour is the same or worse to me and I believe gtrsrs HAS given good defense littered in with the garbage.
Can we get a vote count!
I will be voting to save gtrsrs today as I think he is town(or medic as he claims) and aprudds is just being ridiculous in his attempts to keep pressure on him.
I think the case on Drazerk is not amazing but better than gtrsrs'. In an ideal situation I would like to vote for a lynch on aprudds. If enough people support this please vote for him.
##Vote: aprudds
Note: If enough people do not vote for apprudds before the deadline I will be switching my vote to Drazerk.
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anyways we're running out of time here
i think town will not see the light
if there is a detective i highly recommend checking on Cjrninja instead of Xedat, aprudds, or Drazerk. i think when i flip medic it will be obvious that 2 of those 3 are mafia, and then it's just a question if the third is mafia or if cjrninja is the scum.
also, don't listen to the bullshit that Drazerk and aprudds and xedat will likely spew. it will sound like this "he was playing so badly we had no choice but to lynch him yada yada yada"
no. that's not how this game works. you don't lynch contributing players. you lynch lurkers. aprudds and Drazerk have spammed up the thread to bury my defenses of myself. they are taking over the game and not letting town think for themselves. i feel sorry for you guys if there's no detective.
good luck y'all. i would point out who i think would be the viable town leader to listen to but i know whoever i point out will get killed tonight and i can't even protect them  sorry. i would say i made a mistake this game but i honestly think my death is on freeloader's hands. mafia of course is going to rally onto someone else to take votes off their mafia. of course they're going to jump like vultures onto an easy kill. like i said earlier (which has been conveniently covered up by aprudds and drazerk spam), the fact that i wanted to go for Lord Vatti should have been enough to convince you i am town. my claim should have been unnecessary
you're all geniuses, true gentlemen, and undoubtedly stallions in bed. that being said, your logic is a bit, just a TINY bit lacking. good day
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no. that's not how this game works. you don't lynch contributing players. you lynch lurkers. aprudds and Drazerk have spammed up the thread to bury my defenses of myself. they are taking over the game and not letting town think for themselves. i feel sorry for you guys if there's no detective.
Damn I guess iGrok was a lurker last game.
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On June 20 2011 04:31 gtrsrs wrote:anyways we're running out of time here i think town will not see the light if there is a detective i highly recommend checking on Cjrninja instead of Xedat, aprudds, or Drazerk. i think when i flip medic it will be obvious that 2 of those 3 are mafia, and then it's just a question if the third is mafia or if cjrninja is the scum. also, don't listen to the bullshit that Drazerk and aprudds and xedat will likely spew. it will sound like this "he was playing so badly we had no choice but to lynch him yada yada yada" no. that's not how this game works. you don't lynch contributing players. you lynch lurkers. aprudds and Drazerk have spammed up the thread to bury my defenses of myself. they are taking over the game and not letting town think for themselves. i feel sorry for you guys if there's no detective. good luck y'all. i would point out who i think would be the viable town leader to listen to but i know whoever i point out will get killed tonight and i can't even protect them sorry. i would say i made a mistake this game but i honestly think my death is on freeloader's hands. mafia of course is going to rally onto someone else to take votes off their mafia. of course they're going to jump like vultures onto an easy kill. like i said earlier (which has been conveniently covered up by aprudds and drazerk spam), the fact that i wanted to go for Lord Vatti should have been enough to convince you i am town. my claim should have been unnecessary you're all geniuses, true gentlemen, and undoubtedly stallions in bed. that being said, your logic is a bit, just a TINY bit lacking. good day
When all else fails
Steal the other guys idea of martyring
And didn't we adress the fact that lynching a mod kill only helps mafia?
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