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Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
September 08 2011 22:54 GMT
#221
I like Bayonet's case on iGrok so far. There's a lot of words directed at GGQ but I don't agree with the idea that there's just one appropriate way for Town players to respond and a different kind of response is scummy.

I'm still reading and will post more appropriately.

##vote iGrok
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
September 08 2011 22:55 GMT
#222
On September 08 2011 11:11 chaos13 wrote:
I'm not defending JeeJee. In fact, I think he's right up there with GGQ in terms of scumminess. What I am doing is pressuring GGQ because I can see him posting from a mafia perspective. Why the hell are you defending GGQ?

Please tell us why you think JeeJee is scummy.
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
September 08 2011 22:57 GMT
#223
On September 08 2011 09:04 xtfftc wrote:
On a serious note, the problem with your argument is that I got into trouble in XLIV precisely because of the very same behaviour: accusing four players in no time. The only thing you can read in this is that I'm a bad player but this is something we all know.

The "I did it because I'm a bad player" is the worst excuse possible. If you realized that your multiple accusations very early in XLIV didn't work out well for you, why did you do it again?

I'm also surprised you're not claiming that you were joking.
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
September 08 2011 23:06 GMT
#224
Haha, so now I've got 3 votes, and 2 of them are people's first posts.
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Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
September 08 2011 23:48 GMT
#225


With 16 alive, it is 9 to lynch


wherebugsgo(1) - sinani206

sinani206(1) - xtfftc

chaos13(1) - Palmar

GGQ(3) - JeeJee, bumatlarge, chaos13

xtfftc(1) - TheAwesomeAll

iGrok(3) - wherebugsgo, BayonnetAnderson, Zona

TheAwesomeAll(4) - Curu, Jackal58, iGrok, sandroba

Mig(1) - TheAwesomeAll

Palmar (1) - Mig




Day 1 deadline is 12:00AM ET Friday night aka 4 hours, 13 minutes from this post.

Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
September 08 2011 23:50 GMT
#226
wherebugsgo(1) - sinani206

sinani206(1) - xtfftc

chaos13(1) - Palmar

Mig(1) - TheAwesomeAll

Palmar(1) - Mig


All of these votes are useless. Switch now please or make a better case.

I think TheAwesomeAll is mentally ill, but not mafia. Dont know him, so what do I care. Sporadic townie, we could do without him. iGrok is very active, which doesn't say much, I think he's always active. BA was very accurate that iGrok's posts have a distinct aura of fear and discomfort, different from what you usually see him post. GGQ's posts pales in comparison, where GQQ could very well have been misunderstood in one post, where as iGrok has betrayed his position multiple times.

##Unvote
##Vote iGrok
Together but separate, like oatmeal
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
September 09 2011 00:06 GMT
#227
On September 09 2011 06:20 Mig wrote:
Palmar how is iGrok opening the game with a planned vote on BA impulsive?

The iGrok defense doesn't make sense. All he did was put a vote on the smurf basically stating it is nothing and just a pressure vote. So how exactly is that putting himself out there? Also I don't know why you guys are even defending him in the first place.


Did you roll scum again?

Just explain to me, if you were scum, what's the mentality behind doing exactly what iGrok is doing? Why would any scum ever do what he did? He's drawing attention to himself, he's putting his neck out there with an opinion. I'd much rather look at people who are trying to skirt by with little posting and just calling out people for policies.

iGrok is a bad lynch, that's an opinion, you say I don't explain it enough, that's not actually an opinion on me being scum, it's a policy. If I wrote an analysis would I cease to be scummy? You're actually playing right to your scum meta of looking for "scumtells" and trying to lynch people on them instead of thinking about it.

Mig is probably our best lynch tonight, he's not this bad as town. Pushing bad lynches is mig's favourite shit to do as scum. Remember this if you have a gun tonight.

I'll be voting Mig.

##Vote Mig

I'm gonna re-read ggq's posts, iGrok is almost definitely town, so if it comes to it I'll rather support a ggq lynch
Computer says mafia
iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
September 09 2011 00:10 GMT
#228
On September 09 2011 09:06 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2011 06:20 Mig wrote:
Palmar how is iGrok opening the game with a planned vote on BA impulsive?

The iGrok defense doesn't make sense. All he did was put a vote on the smurf basically stating it is nothing and just a pressure vote. So how exactly is that putting himself out there? Also I don't know why you guys are even defending him in the first place.


Did you roll scum again?

Just explain to me, if you were scum, what's the mentality behind doing exactly what iGrok is doing? Why would any scum ever do what he did? He's drawing attention to himself, he's putting his neck out there with an opinion. I'd much rather look at people who are trying to skirt by with little posting and just calling out people for policies.

iGrok is a bad lynch, that's an opinion, you say I don't explain it enough, that's not actually an opinion on me being scum, it's a policy. If I wrote an analysis would I cease to be scummy? You're actually playing right to your scum meta of looking for "scumtells" and trying to lynch people on them instead of thinking about it.

Mig is probably our best lynch tonight, he's not this bad as town. Pushing bad lynches is mig's favourite shit to do as scum. Remember this if you have a gun tonight.

I'll be voting Mig.

##Vote Mig

I'm gonna re-read ggq's posts, iGrok is almost definitely town, so if it comes to it I'll rather support a ggq lynch

Hey palmar, would you support TAA over Mig to ensure a lynch tonight?
MOTM | Stim.tv | TL Mafia | Fantasy Fighting! | SNSD
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
September 09 2011 00:16 GMT
#229
I'm rereading iGrok and reconsidering my vote on him, as well as looking for a more suspicious person to switch to. I'm considering GGQ, rereading.
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
September 09 2011 00:19 GMT
#230
Palmar you have spent practically all your time this game defending igrok instead of doing any actual scum hunting, which is extremely unlike you. Your initial reason for voting chaos was ridiculous and nonsensical. You said GGQ was a good lynch but once someone asked you why you completely ignored them, probably because you didn't actually have any reason behind it. Now you are voting me based on what exactly? Because I pointed out all the inconsistencies in your play?
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chaos13
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada885 Posts
September 09 2011 00:19 GMT
#231
I don't really understand the attention on TAA. As for iGrok, I can see him being either scum or town backed up against a wall. I'm not comfortable enough with that lynch to vote for him today.

Palmar seems to be doing his usual stirring of the pot to elicit reads based on emotion, but has cut down on the spam a bit. His votes are useless and the reasoning for them shitty. But that's nothing new. If he doesn't come in with something decent soon he's scum.

On September 08 2011 22:30 Jackal58 wrote:
Would you please explain? I've just reread everything GGQ has posted and there is nothing there.
You and Jee Jee are tag teaming him. And no I'm not defending GGQ. I'm calling you out for a vote that makes no sense to me.


Read the little exchange GGQ and I had earlier and you'll see why. He's getting all prickly under pressure, like a little mafia porcupine.
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
September 09 2011 00:23 GMT
#232
On September 08 2011 07:32 GGQ wrote:
9) then bum jumps on the bandwagon against me based on the incorrect assumption that I was pointing fingers at him. Curious how bum and JeeJee are interacting here...

To sum up, JeeJee and bum have been misinterpreting and misrepresenting me. This is something that is done either by scum trying to lead a mislynch or by townies who fail at reading comprehension. Which one are you guys?

On September 08 2011 10:16 GGQ wrote:
When did I accuse him of being scum? I gave him two options, and frankly I think it's more likely that JeeJee is misguided towny than mafia atm. My post wasn't an accusation, but an outline of misunderstandings, logic fails, and suspicious behavior.

...

If this is the kind of logic and analysis we are going to have all game, then gg we lose.

The first part does really look like an accusation of scumminess to me, but then it gets denied.

And the last part I quoted stinks.
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
September 09 2011 00:27 GMT
#233
##Vote GGQ
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
September 09 2011 00:27 GMT
#234
there isn't much to go on with TAA, the thing is he agrees with me mig is very likely scum, it could be an attempt to distance himself or something.

But he usually doesn't lurk and one-line this hard as town. There is another thing that I'm leaning town on Bumatlarge too, so his vote on Bum makes no sense to me, I think I'm down with lynching TAA yeah. I actually like him better than GGQ, and iGrok is almost definitely not scum.

let's do it.

##Unvote Mig
##Vote TheAwesomeAll
Computer says mafia
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
September 09 2011 00:27 GMT
#235
I'll be back later.
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
September 09 2011 00:28 GMT
#236
rofl, chaos13 doesn't think TAA is scum. Chaos is always wrong so TAA must be scum!
Computer says mafia
GGQ
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2653 Posts
September 09 2011 00:34 GMT
#237
aight

##vote iGrok

TheAwesomeAll is a fine lynch, too.
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
September 09 2011 00:34 GMT
#238
On September 09 2011 09:19 Mig wrote:
Palmar you have spent practically all your time this game defending igrok instead of doing any actual scum hunting, which is extremely unlike you. Your initial reason for voting chaos was ridiculous and nonsensical. You said GGQ was a good lynch but once someone asked you why you completely ignored them, probably because you didn't actually have any reason behind it. Now you are voting me based on what exactly? Because I pointed out all the inconsistencies in your play?


I'm voting you because you're not using your head this game, I've actually switched to your buddy, but really, you're trying to defend a lynch you KNOW is bad, what the fuck?

I said GGQ was less bad a lynch, but that's because iGrok has like ~5% chance of flipping scum. But I'm fine with killing you, or TAA.

Who cares about inconsistencies, you're trying to enforce policy lynching which is basically pushing mafia objectives because it indirectly gives anyone who accepts those policies a free pass. Recent example is BB's day one play in XLIV. In that game too you kept pushing bad lynches based on people being "scummy".
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
September 09 2011 00:35 GMT
#239
I need to sleep.

don't fucking kill iGrok you derps.
Computer says mafia
Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
September 09 2011 00:49 GMT
#240
Palmar I really laugh at you saying there is a 5% chance of iGrok flipping scum. Please can you show me anything that makes it so incredibly clear that iGrok is town, other than the retarded idea that because he random voted at the beginning of the game it makes him town.

I am sure most of the town has played several times with palmar's town play in the past. Does palmar ever defend anyone this hard day1 as town? It's completely opposite of palmar's normal play.

And you say I am trying to push policy lynches wtf? You are twisting things to try and make me appear scummy. Me pushing for your lynch because you are playing completely differently than normal and defending someone with horrible reasoning is in no way a policy lynch.

Really the only explanation for palmar's poor logic and his non stop insistence that iGrok is guaranteed town is that palmar is scum.
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