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elmizzt
Profile Joined February 2010
United States3309 Posts
April 16 2011 19:21 GMT
#221
On April 17 2011 04:10 VarpuliS wrote:
Elmizzt: Make sure you vote before the deadline. The last thing we need is a modkill.

I will be sure to, thanks
d=(^_^)z
Eternalmisfit
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States643 Posts
April 16 2011 23:05 GMT
#222
No show for Senj yet. And Elmizzt did make few posts. So, I guess I will follow Varpulis' advice and vote for Senj as well.

I find it ironic that in one of his initial post, he said that he will be very suspicious is someone didn't post a during the course of the day.

## Unvote
## Vote : Senj
elmizzt
Profile Joined February 2010
United States3309 Posts
April 16 2011 23:24 GMT
#223
I was hoping people would want to discuss a bit more, but it's getting close to that time!

## Vote : Senj
d=(^_^)z
Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
April 16 2011 23:37 GMT
#224
And now but a single person has yet to vote. Hey Senj, we'd love to hear what you've got to say.

If you're not going to do it for us, do it for yourself, because you're lined up for a lynch and a modkill both at this point.

About now I'm starting to think about what we'll do next. Expect a post within the next few hours about where things stand, suspects wise.
For he is the Oystermeister, lord of all the oysters.
Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
April 16 2011 23:38 GMT
#225
EBWOP: by "suspects wise" I mean who's suspecting who, and why.
For he is the Oystermeister, lord of all the oysters.
chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
April 17 2011 00:27 GMT
#226
shcoleosis: 1
Vain

Zorkmid: 1
Forumite

Senj: 6
sandroba
Varpulis
shcoleosis
Zorkmid
Eternalmisfit
elmizzt

Senj to be lynched at 6 votes

Day ends in 1 hour 33 minutes
Haven't you heard? I'm not an ex-progamer. I'm not a poker player. I'm not an admin of the site. I'm mother fucking Rekrul.
Vain
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Netherlands1115 Posts
April 17 2011 01:57 GMT
#227
Well, there it goes. In a few minutes senj will be no more. If he flips over and turns out to be red i'm gonna eat my hat, Serously
Battle.net 2.0 is a waiter and he's a dick
chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-17 02:12:01
April 17 2011 02:01 GMT
#228
[image loading]

Night 1


With the troubling events of the morning center page in both the newspapers and their minds, every citizen in town was called to the town square in order to deliberate on what was to be done about the situation. Heated arguments were had and harsh words were spoken. Before they knew it, the sun was starting to set and a thick fog rolled in, covering everything in its grasps. With nervous glances all about, the town turned its suspicions onto Senj and it was decided that he was to be lynched. Placing the hanging noose around his neck, the town asked him if he had any last words. But just as he had acted during the day, he acted now and not a single word was spoken. Instead he merely stared straight ahead, as if at something no one else could see, his face as stoic as a stone wall. The noose tight around his neck, his legs dropped out from under him as the trap door opened and his neck snapped in two. Blood flowed out of his mouth as the town realized they had chosen wrong. But the wrong could not be righted and with visibility growing low, they all headed home for the night, hoping that the next day would bring about better news.

Senj the Townie is dead.

Day 2 begins in 24 hours, please get your actions into both me and GMarshal by Sunday 10PM EST.
Haven't you heard? I'm not an ex-progamer. I'm not a poker player. I'm not an admin of the site. I'm mother fucking Rekrul.
chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
April 17 2011 02:02 GMT
#229
I just want to remind everyone that DoctorHelvetica is around as well as a few other people as support if you guys need some one to bounce ideas.
Haven't you heard? I'm not an ex-progamer. I'm not a poker player. I'm not an admin of the site. I'm mother fucking Rekrul.
Zorkmid
Profile Joined November 2008
4410 Posts
April 17 2011 02:09 GMT
#230
On April 17 2011 11:01 chaoser wrote:

Senj the Townie is dead.



No surprise there, see you tomorrow.
Eternalmisfit
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States643 Posts
April 17 2011 02:16 GMT
#231
It is not too surprising that he flipped out town. It is sad to lose a townie but then again he was going to be mod-killed anyways. Here's to hoping that we have everyone active and can do a better jobs on figuring out mafia in the next day cycle.
Vain
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Netherlands1115 Posts
April 17 2011 02:17 GMT
#232
I just want to take this moment and mourn for our departed senj, who turned out to be a town. This death will have an huge impact on us and the game. The rest of this post i will dedicate to our beloved senj. Think of all the moments he was with us and the time we spent together. I still remember the first time i saw him.
On April 15 2011 11:18 Senj wrote:
GL HF broskis. Not sure I agree Eternalmisfit, seeing as we're all relatively new to the mafia game.

He was never much of a talker, but he always told me he tried so hard to change..

On April 15 2011 12:41 Senj wrote:
Yeah, basically. I guess that's kind of the idea of keeping the thread active though, more posts mean more chances to slip up and divulge too much information.

Somewhat unrelated, but I just broke a 9 game lose streak. :D huuuuuge relief there.


Sadly, he fell back in his old behaviour and he spoke to the public only one more time


On April 15 2011 12:54 Senj wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2011 12:52 elmizzt wrote:
On April 15 2011 12:49 Zorkmid wrote:
I for one am going to vote that we lynch the quiet most innocent seeming player I might even do a character count!

hmmm...how long until we can start eye-ing some of the inactive players and leaning on em a little?


I'm already taking note that we have yet to see Forumite, Vain and Varpulis, however; I feel it's a little early yet. By the halfway mark on the first day I'll be suspicious if we haven't heard from them yet.


After that it was only a matter of time until dark clouds rose above his head. Maybe he wanted to talk but couldn't find a way to express himself. Maybe he searched for words but could never find them. Maybe something else, but we will never know now because our beloved senj is dead
Battle.net 2.0 is a waiter and he's a dick
Vain
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Netherlands1115 Posts
April 17 2011 02:18 GMT
#233
P.s. This also means no hat-eating will be done tonight!
Battle.net 2.0 is a waiter and he's a dick
elmizzt
Profile Joined February 2010
United States3309 Posts
April 17 2011 02:23 GMT
#234
On April 17 2011 11:17 Vain wrote:
I just want to take this moment and mourn for our departed senj, who turned out to be a town. This death will have an huge impact on us and the game. The rest of this post i will dedicate to our beloved senj. Think of all the moments he was with us and the time we spent together. I still remember the first time i saw him.
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2011 11:18 Senj wrote:
GL HF broskis. Not sure I agree Eternalmisfit, seeing as we're all relatively new to the mafia game.

He was never much of a talker, but he always told me he tried so hard to change..

Show nested quote +
On April 15 2011 12:41 Senj wrote:
Yeah, basically. I guess that's kind of the idea of keeping the thread active though, more posts mean more chances to slip up and divulge too much information.

Somewhat unrelated, but I just broke a 9 game lose streak. :D huuuuuge relief there.


Sadly, he fell back in his old behaviour and he spoke to the public only one more time


Show nested quote +
On April 15 2011 12:54 Senj wrote:
On April 15 2011 12:52 elmizzt wrote:
On April 15 2011 12:49 Zorkmid wrote:
I for one am going to vote that we lynch the quiet most innocent seeming player I might even do a character count!

hmmm...how long until we can start eye-ing some of the inactive players and leaning on em a little?


I'm already taking note that we have yet to see Forumite, Vain and Varpulis, however; I feel it's a little early yet. By the halfway mark on the first day I'll be suspicious if we haven't heard from them yet.


After that it was only a matter of time until dark clouds rose above his head. Maybe he wanted to talk but couldn't find a way to express himself. Maybe he searched for words but could never find them. Maybe something else, but we will never know now because our beloved senj is dead

Hahahahaha a fitting tribute. R.I.P.
d=(^_^)z
GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
April 17 2011 02:23 GMT
#235
Remember to PM night actions to BOTH chaoser and myself
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Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
April 17 2011 04:09 GMT
#236
As promised, here is my post on the situation so far. Who has been accusing who? What are their reasons? Read on to find out.


Forumite


+ Show Spoiler +
The only player suspicious of Forumite is Zorkmid, who noted his his post pre-game stating that he would not post much day 1 and saw it as a scumtell.
On April 15 2011 23:03 Zorkmid wrote:
This points to Forumrite.
Show nested quote +
Unfortunately I´m going to post slowly during the first day-phace, lots of things happening this weekend, but it should pick up next week.


It doesn't matter that he posted this before he was even PM'ed.....if my assumption about sandroba holds true, than he has already revealed he AND Forumrite.

How do you plead?

Later on, Zorkmid realizes that this is ridiculous, and believes him to be a townie.
Forumite
I initially cast suspicion on this player because he seemed to be one of the inactives I perceived Shcoleosis to be protecting.

Over time I have I grown to feel he is a townie, he has done what myself and Varpulis have done, pressuring lurkers and trying to get the posts flowing.

I have also felt that he has made too many references that try identify who the lurkers are, to me it just came off as trying to lynch a certain inactive that he may is a townie.


Eternalmisfit is unsure about Forumite's alignment, but has found a possible connection with Shcoleosis.
Forumite
One thing I am confident is that if Forumite is mafia, Shcoleosis is mafia as well since he was only one who jumped to her defense. If Forumite was mafia and Scholeosis was not mafia, than it is unlikely that he will protect a townie as it seems a easy town lynch in that case. This clue doesn't have a bearing now but if it late game, if either of them do turn out to be mafia, then I would be very suspicious of the other.
Nevertheless, I cant find much scummy behavior from Forumite at this point.



VarpuliS


+ Show Spoiler +
Multiple people note me as a lurker early day 1, despite my pregame post explaining the absence.

I'm going to ignore them, because I can.

Sandroba did claim that a post I made was scummy, and I'll quote his post here to prove that I'm not just ignoring any criticism of myself.
On April 16 2011 07:33 sandroba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2011 07:10 VarpuliS wrote:
As it stands it's unlikely we can identify mafia day one. I think we should lynch a lurker day 1 and see who the mafia kills night 1 before trying any hardcore analysis. I've got no problem with the analysis that's been going on atm though, so keep it up guys!

I just looked though the thread, and pretty much 100% of Eternalmisfit's posts have been pushing for an inactive lynch day 1. He'd like to get everybody talking, but has yet to contribute in a meaningful way. If we're gonna lynch a lurker, it should either be him or Senj, who has been lurking since the beginning of the game, save a few posts about inactives.


This is pretty contradictory. And you conviniently forgot about scholeosis who has 2 post of utter nothingness and scumtells.
Senj really hasn't shown up much to give us his insight.


Eternalmisfit seems to like me. Yay.
VarpuliS
He has been making reasonable posts and has been making good analysis so he seems like a townie to me.

So does Zorkmid.
VarpuliS
He has been pressuring lurkers, as I have been. I feel like this is strong town play. Also, he has prodded other players to share their ideas. To me, he is doing as good a job as I am to get as many posts out there as possible for analysis, and this to me indicates strong town play.



Elmizzt

Note- Many players have been calling him Elmizzit. please stop, it makes my job harder.

+ Show Spoiler +
Forumite suspects that Elmizzt is a lurking mafia working with Zorkmid in this post:
On April 16 2011 22:11 Forumite wrote:
II´ve been tunneling on the Zorkmid and elmizzt connection, both of them calling me scum for not posting during the start of the first day, when I was asleep and had informed people of this beforehand. I have the feeling that Zorkmid was the talkative Mafia, elmizzt the quiet one. Elmizzt hasn´t really said anything except agreeing with lynching inactives and agreeing with a weird post with weak arguments from Zorkmid.


At one point, I notice that he's been lurking and put a vote on him.
On April 17 2011 00:17 VarpuliS wrote:
My vote goes to Elmizzt, because not only has he not contributed anything meaningful, he also pretended to contribute by parroting one of Zorkmid's bullshit analyses about how sandroba and forumite are both mafia because forumite was afk and sandroba defended him.
##Vote: Elmizzt

As of now, he seems less scummy to me than a couple others, my vote was mainly to pressure him out of lurking.

Eternalmisfit picked up on his lurking a while back, and posted the following in his general analysis post:
Elmizzit
He has been barely more active than Senj. So, he has been lurking a bit too. Same analysis as Senj.


In his general analysis post, Zorkmid also expresses suspicion about Elmizzt
Elmizzit (this guy has got me confused.)
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2011 23:03 Zorkmid wrote:
Show nested quote +

I'm suspicious that this means that sandroba is scum, and knows that that his scum buddy is going to be inactive.

This points to Forumrite.
Show nested quote +
It doesn't matter that he posted this before he was even PM'ed.....if my assumption about sandroba holds true, than he has already revealed he AND Forumrite.

How do you plead?


This seemed retarded at first, but the more I think about it, the more it makes sense....

It seems too convenient that forumite is afk at the start and that sandroba would make that statement.

Plus, my gut tells me that the first person who breaks and makes an outright accusation is suspicious, and that was Sandroba as well.


I'm a bit suspicious of this, he seems the only one to have outright agreed with my very first observation that Shcoleosis was scum, and therefore Forumite (inactive at that point) was too.

Also, the post I quoted is his only post of substance. The rest were about trying to get inactives to talk (when he is very inactive himself). To me this could indicate either that he feels there isn't much to be said at this point, or that he doesn't want to slip up.


To be fair, both Eternalmisfit and Zorkmid posted these analyses before Elmizzt made his post analyzing Sandroba, so he hasn't been lurking 100%, as these two posts would lead you to believe.



Senj


+ Show Spoiler +
Senj has been really inactive, and is about to be has been both lynched. The first to notice/bring up his activity was Zorkmid.
On April 16 2011 03:59 Zorkmid wrote:
I'm all up for scumhunting, and will defend myself at any point that I think it's necessary. Let's hear from the lurkers!

VarpuliS
Senj
Vain

Penny for your thoughts?


Forumite agrees with this in posts that i'm not going to quote here for the sake of keeping this post under a page long.

So does Sandroba, it seems (he votes for him randomly in a post about Zorkmid and Shcoleosis)
So do I. I vote for him. everybody else bandwagons in the following order:

On April 17 2011 01:44 Shcoleosis wrote:
##Vote: Senj

On April 17 2011 02:09 Zorkmid wrote:
##vote Senj

On April 17 2011 08:05 Eternalmisfit wrote:
## Unvote
## Vote : Senj


On April 17 2011 08:24 elmizzt wrote:
I was hoping people would want to discuss a bit more, but it's getting close to that time!

## Vote : Senj

For good measure, here are Eternalmisfit's and Zorkmid's analyses of Senj, respectively.
On April 16 2011 21:36 Eternalmisfit wrote:
Senj
He has added nothing to discussion at this point and seems like a classic example of lurker. If I cannot find any strong candidates for being mafia by the end of the day, he will be my go-to vote to avoid killing an active townie.

On April 17 2011 02:49 Zorkmid wrote:
Senj
He has added nothing to discussion at this point and seems like a classic example of lurker. If I cannot find any strong candidates for being mafia by the end of the day, he will be my go-to vote to avoid killing an active townie. (stolen from Misfit)
Unless something changes, this is my vote for day 1



sandroba


+ Show Spoiler +
Once again, Zorkmid is the first to point the FoS at sandroba.
On April 15 2011 23:03 Zorkmid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2011 20:52 sandroba wrote:
On April 15 2011 11:27 Zorkmid wrote:
On April 15 2011 11:12 Eternalmisfit wrote:
Btw I think we should lynch people who are inactive or lurking the boards as it is more likely that they are trying to stay under and radar and avoid suspicion on themselves by barely posting at all.

I concur with this, there sure isn't any harm in losing inactive townies OR scum!

GLHF!

There is a lot of harm in losing any kind of townies.


I'm suspicious that this means that sandroba is scum, and knows that that his scum buddy is going to be inactive.


Elmizzt agrees with Zorkmid.
On April 16 2011 02:34 elmizzt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2011 23:03 Zorkmid wrote:
On April 15 2011 20:52 sandroba wrote:
On April 15 2011 11:27 Zorkmid wrote:
On April 15 2011 11:12 Eternalmisfit wrote:
Btw I think we should lynch people who are inactive or lurking the boards as it is more likely that they are trying to stay under and radar and avoid suspicion on themselves by barely posting at all.

I concur with this, there sure isn't any harm in losing inactive townies OR scum!

GLHF!

There is a lot of harm in losing any kind of townies.


I'm suspicious that this means that sandroba is scum, and knows that that his scum buddy is going to be inactive.

This points to Forumrite.
Unfortunately I´m going to post slowly during the first day-phace, lots of things happening this weekend, but it should pick up next week.


It doesn't matter that he posted this before he was even PM'ed.....if my assumption about sandroba holds true, than he has already revealed he AND Forumrite.

How do you plead?

This seemed retarded at first, but the more I think about it, the more it makes sense....

It seems too convenient that forumite is afk at the start and that sandroba would make that statement.

Plus, my gut tells me that the first person who breaks and makes an outright accusation is suspicious, and that was Sandroba as well.

Forumite disagrees.

A good while later on, Elmizzt posts an analysis of sandroba, calling him scum
+ Show Spoiler [Elmizzt's analysis] +
On April 17 2011 03:37 elmizzt wrote:
OK. Here are my thoughts for scum:

I think Sandroba has some qualities that are pretty suspicious.

In his posting, here are the aspects I find to be suspicious:

First, he keeps referencing material that he has read outside of the game:

Show nested quote +
That's called OMGUS from what I've read.


Show nested quote +
Zorkmid chainsaw defense of scholeosis seems suspicous aswell, but if it is indeed a chainsaw defense then pressuring scholeosis should be able to reveal them both.


To me, this screams someone who read a mafia wiki page or something and is leaning on these terms and outside information as a source of authority. He can sound much more confident and harder to attack by dropping these even without a leg to stand on.



Second, he keeps talking from the point of view of a mafia, which I feel is a slip as well:

Show nested quote +
is the situation too confortable that the scum can sit back and realx?


Show nested quote +
this debate of me zorkmid and forumite throwing suspicion against each other is getting too confortable for the mafia

This one especially, in response to zorkmid's accusation:
Show nested quote +
Also attacking the one doing analisys on you is not good town play

I feel like this is a huge slip, as he's speaking as though he knows that the person he is responding to is town.


Couple other things that are suspicious, his argument rebuttles are always just fluff and dismissal:

Show nested quote +
I'm obviously town.


Show nested quote +
And to say it doesn't matter if he posted that before or after he got PM'ed is just LOL


Show nested quote +
make a case of someone you think is scum (a decent one, not the nonsencical one you've posted)


This makes it easy to shut down opinions quickly and that attitude makes it extremely hard to respond. Basically I feel like sandroba has been screaming for more analysis and more posts, but whenever anyone posts arguments, he tries to shut them down quickly or dismiss them as a joke.


Finally, as usual, Eternalmisfit's and Zorkmid's analyses.
On April 16 2011 21:36 Eternalmisfit wrote:
Sandroba
Not getting a strong scum/townie vibe from him. So he can be either.

On April 17 2011 02:49 Zorkmid wrote:
Sandroba
+ Show Spoiler [analysis] +
Has posted some pretty good analytical thoughts, has seemed very pro town.

There is one mistake he made early on that I just simply cannot get past. And in the wake of what he has posted since, I just can't wrap my head around. I could be nothing, but I think everyone needs to see these two consecutive posts.

1. In response to my first idea that sandroba is scum because he knows that forumite was gonna be inactive and was trying to protect him.

That makes no kind of sense whatsoever. How is me saying losing townies is a bad thing makes me scum? I'm obviously town. The idea of lynching inactives is really just to make sure everyone post enough so we can get a read on them.
Also attacking the one doing analisys on you is not good town play. That's called OMGUS from what I've read. If you really are town then you should either defend yourself or make a case of someone you think is scum (a decent one, not the nonsencical one you've posted) so you can actually help town.
I also have no connection with forumite and I fail to see how you could possibly have drawn this conclusion. And to say it doesn't matter if he posted that before or after he got PM'ed is just LOL.
You are looking more and more like scum to me.


Whoa, I thought that was scholeosis posting that, and I was thinking we had a clear scum for day 1 lynch. Besides the analisys part, since I haven't done one on you, my point still stands. I don't think you are scum though, since you are actually trying to do analises, although not a good one.


I don't know exactly what it means that he has a TOTALLY different idea about a post depending on who posted it, but it's weird.




Zorkmid


+ Show Spoiler +
In response to Zorkmid's accusation against him, Forumite post the following:
On April 16 2011 02:54 Forumite wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2011 23:03 Zorkmid wrote:
This points to Forumrite.
Unfortunately I´m going to post slowly during the first day-phace, lots of things happening this weekend, but it should pick up next week.


It doesn't matter that he posted this before he was even PM'ed.....if my assumption about sandroba holds true, than he has already revealed he AND Forumrite.

How do you plead?

I don´t understand your analysis at all. I´m in the game, posting, but unfortunately I can´t be online all the time. I will try to compensate by posting more when I can.

--------

I see 2 things people should take note off. Please call me out if I misinterpret the situation, I WANT to hear your defence against these accusations. That I accuse Zorkmind immediately after he´s suspicious of me is bad form, but please check his posts if you don´t believe me.

Zorkmind has posted that he is suspicious of Forumite (me), Ssandroba (twice) and Shcoleosis, all three who try to encourage analysis and debate and doesn´t want to lynch innocents. I feel this is scummy behavior because analysis and carefull lynching is what Town wants.

On April 16 2011 03:51 Forumite wrote:
FoS: Zorkmid

For the reasons mentioned above in my post, and because Zorkmid hasn´t made any effort at all to change my mind.


On April 16 2011 04:05 Forumite wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2011 03:59 Zorkmid wrote:
I'm all up for scumhunting, and will defend myself at any point that I think it's necessary. Let's hear from the lurkers!

Why do you accuse those who want debate and analysis? Isn´t that a good way to find Scums?

I want an answer from the lurkers too, especially if they are quiet tomorrow too, but the way you focused on them now, at the time that I want answers from you, feels more like you are trying to direct the heat to someone else.

Forumite also posts waaaay later indicating that he still believes Zorkmid to be scum.
On April 16 2011 19:26 Forumite wrote:
I´m going to go by my earlier suspicions, that Zorkmid is Mafia because of his random accusations and willingness to lynch for weak reasons. That his defence is to vote on the one the rest of Town wants to Lynch doesn´t speak in his favor IMO, he´s not defending, just shifting blame.

##Vote Zorkmid



sandroba calls out Zorkmid for a chainsaw defense which wasn't actually a chainsaw defense, so that can be ignored.

Fast forward to right after my big analysis post on Shcoleosis and the subsequent bandwagon against her. She defended herself with this post by showing how in her opinion, Zorkmid was scummier than her.
On April 16 2011 09:51 Shcoleosis wrote:
+ Show Spoiler [post] +
After reading this thread entirely, here's what I think on the matter:

In my opinion, one of the first to accuse is usually the guilty one. Automatically everyone’s opinions are immediately placed under suspicion as the game progresses. That being the case, a mafia member wouldn’t express his opinions as eagerly as he would if he were agreeing with someone else’s. He would, however, be quick to blame, because doing so would divert attention away from himself.

On April 15 2011 20:53 Zorkmid wrote:
My FoS is on Shcoleosis as well for the same reasons, and will also be on anyone that jumps on Misfit's argument about this Zorkmind person.


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On April 15 2011 20:06 Eternalmisfit wrote:
Also, I think the way Zorkmind is subtly derailing the discussion by talking about less fun in this mafia thread makes me wonder if has a hidden motive.


Zorkmid came up with the idea of lynching inactives and lurkers. That would work out greatly to his advantage if he were part of the mafia since it is more of an opportunity to blend, right? The more we accuse those of having a different opinion, the less of a suspect he seems to be. I am not the first to disagree with him. I am not the first to be accused because I disagreed with him. Notice how Zorkmid says he “will also be on anyone that jumps on Misfit’s argument about his Zorkmind person.” Why so defensive, Zorkmid? Perhaps he is afraid of everyone discovering how he is desperately trying to divert attention away from himself. He’s doing a great job of it. I had my suspicions about him early on because he's not only quick to agree with the majority, but he is also quick to blame. I didn't quote any other of his posts, but to me, he acts quite suspicious in most of them.


She follows that post up with this:
On April 16 2011 10:12 Shcoleosis wrote:
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On April 16 2011 10:03 Zorkmid wrote:
On April 16 2011 09:51 Shcoleosis wrote:
After reading this thread entirely, here's what I think on the matter:

In my opinion, one of the first to accuse is usually the guilty one. Automatically everyone’s opinions are immediately placed under suspicion as the game progresses. That being the case, a mafia member wouldn’t express his opinions as eagerly as he would if he were agreeing with someone else’s. He would, however, be quick to blame, because doing so would divert attention away from himself.

On April 15 2011 20:53 Zorkmid wrote:
My FoS is on Shcoleosis as well for the same reasons, and will also be on anyone that jumps on Misfit's argument about this Zorkmind person.


On April 15 2011 20:06 Eternalmisfit wrote:
Also, I think the way Zorkmind is subtly derailing the discussion by talking about less fun in this mafia thread makes me wonder if has a hidden motive.


Zorkmid came up with the idea of lynching inactives and lurkers. That would work out greatly to his advantage if he were part of the mafia since it is more of an opportunity to blend, right? The more we accuse those of having a different opinion, the less of a suspect he seems to be. I am not the first to disagree with him. I am not the first to be accused because I disagreed with him. Notice how Zorkmid says he “will also be on anyone that jumps on Misfit’s argument about his Zorkmind person.” Why so defensive, Zorkmid? Perhaps he is afraid of everyone discovering how he is desperately trying to divert attention away from himself. He’s doing a great job of it. I had my suspicions about him early on because he's not only quick to agree with the majority, but he is also quick to blame. I didn't quote any other of his posts, but to me, he acts quite suspicious in most of them.


I've just learned that you should always beware of the person that is the first to agree with a scum read. If I were a mafia I'd be looking for the first opportunity to form a bandwagon against a known townie.

Misfit was the first to point the finger at me, and I wanted everyone to wait and watch for the second

Question for you Scheleosis......what's your plan to survive tomorrow? I'd say your only bet is to claim blue.

##Vote Scheleosis



"If I were a mafia, I'd be looking for the first opportunity to form a bandwagon against a known townie." Uh, Zorkmid, isn't that exactly what you're doing? Wait, isn't that also what you did to Sandroba?? Take a look at the pattern you're creating.

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On April 15 2011 23:50 Zorkmid wrote:
Because of your slip, I no longer suspect Scholesis.

FoS sandroba

Why explain why your town play is bad and then cite a guide you read that explained it was bad?


Exhibit A.


And this:
On April 16 2011 10:19 Shcoleosis wrote:
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On April 16 2011 10:15 Zorkmid wrote:
On April 16 2011 10:12 Shcoleosis wrote:
On April 16 2011 10:03 Zorkmid wrote:
On April 16 2011 09:51 Shcoleosis wrote:
After reading this thread entirely, here's what I think on the matter:

In my opinion, one of the first to accuse is usually the guilty one. Automatically everyone’s opinions are immediately placed under suspicion as the game progresses. That being the case, a mafia member wouldn’t express his opinions as eagerly as he would if he were agreeing with someone else’s. He would, however, be quick to blame, because doing so would divert attention away from himself.

On April 15 2011 20:53 Zorkmid wrote:
My FoS is on Shcoleosis as well for the same reasons, and will also be on anyone that jumps on Misfit's argument about this Zorkmind person.


On April 15 2011 20:06 Eternalmisfit wrote:
Also, I think the way Zorkmind is subtly derailing the discussion by talking about less fun in this mafia thread makes me wonder if has a hidden motive.


Zorkmid came up with the idea of lynching inactives and lurkers. That would work out greatly to his advantage if he were part of the mafia since it is more of an opportunity to blend, right? The more we accuse those of having a different opinion, the less of a suspect he seems to be. I am not the first to disagree with him. I am not the first to be accused because I disagreed with him. Notice how Zorkmid says he “will also be on anyone that jumps on Misfit’s argument about his Zorkmind person.” Why so defensive, Zorkmid? Perhaps he is afraid of everyone discovering how he is desperately trying to divert attention away from himself. He’s doing a great job of it. I had my suspicions about him early on because he's not only quick to agree with the majority, but he is also quick to blame. I didn't quote any other of his posts, but to me, he acts quite suspicious in most of them.


I've just learned that you should always beware of the person that is the first to agree with a scum read. If I were a mafia I'd be looking for the first opportunity to form a bandwagon against a known townie.

Misfit was the first to point the finger at me, and I wanted everyone to wait and watch for the second

Question for you Scheleosis......what's your plan to survive tomorrow? I'd say your only bet is to claim blue.

##Vote Scheleosis



"If I were a mafia, I'd be looking for the first opportunity to form a bandwagon against a known townie." Uh, Zorkmid, isn't that exactly what you're doing? Wait, isn't that also what you did to Sandroba?? Take a look at the pattern you're creating.

On April 15 2011 23:50 Zorkmid wrote:
Because of your slip, I no longer suspect Scholesis.

FoS sandroba

Why explain why your town play is bad and then cite a guide you read that explained it was bad?


Exhibit A.



There's a difference between explaining why bad play is bad, and explaining why good play is good.

I've noticed something else about you. You're fickle in your accusations. One minute you're accusing someone of this, and the next you're accusing someone of that. You keep looking for someone to blame. Misfit, Sandroba, Shcoleosis....who is next, Zorkmid? The only reason you are sticking by your argument is because everyone is on your side. You quickly shifted the blame to the next person when you found that no one was backing up your accusation. Lucky for you, you are not the only one suspicious of me. I guarantee you that is the only reason you are sticking by your vote against me. If no one backed you up on this, you would have immediately blamed the next person. To me, that screams nothing but scum....a scum desperately trying to fit in.

A little later, Eternalmisfit also posts some suspicion.
On April 16 2011 10:59 Eternalmisfit wrote:
I do also have some suspicions on Zorkmid who seems to be too finger happy at pointing at others. But, it is hard to say whether this is his usual forum personality or whether he trying to parry away any attention. Sadly, since it is mostly new people here, it is hard to get a read on someone on the basis of posting habits.

At this point sandroba believes Zorkmid to be town.

Eternalmisfit's analysis:+ Show Spoiler [Eternalmisfit's analysis] +
On April 16 2011 21:36 Eternalmisfit wrote:

Zorkmid
Zorkmid is suspicious of Shcoleosis to the point where he will lynch her before lurkers. It seems like an opposite relation of Forumite i.e. if one of the is mafia, then the other one is town. Some more thoughts in next post.

On April 16 2011 21:53 Eternalmisfit wrote:
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On April 16 2011 10:03 Zorkmid wrote:
On April 16 2011 09:51 Shcoleosis wrote:
After reading this thread entirely, here's what I think on the matter:

In my opinion, one of the first to accuse is usually the guilty one. Automatically everyone’s opinions are immediately placed under suspicion as the game progresses. That being the case, a mafia member wouldn’t express his opinions as eagerly as he would if he were agreeing with someone else’s. He would, however, be quick to blame, because doing so would divert attention away from himself.

On April 15 2011 20:53 Zorkmid wrote:
My FoS is on Shcoleosis as well for the same reasons, and will also be on anyone that jumps on Misfit's argument about this Zorkmind person.


On April 15 2011 20:06 Eternalmisfit wrote:
Also, I think the way Zorkmind is subtly derailing the discussion by talking about less fun in this mafia thread makes me wonder if has a hidden motive.


Zorkmid came up with the idea of lynching inactives and lurkers. That would work out greatly to his advantage if he were part of the mafia since it is more of an opportunity to blend, right? The more we accuse those of having a different opinion, the less of a suspect he seems to be. I am not the first to disagree with him. I am not the first to be accused because I disagreed with him. Notice how Zorkmid says he “will also be on anyone that jumps on Misfit’s argument about his Zorkmind person.” Why so defensive, Zorkmid? Perhaps he is afraid of everyone discovering how he is desperately trying to divert attention away from himself. He’s doing a great job of it. I had my suspicions about him early on because he's not only quick to agree with the majority, but he is also quick to blame. I didn't quote any other of his posts, but to me, he acts quite suspicious in most of them.


I've just learned that you should always beware of the person that is the first to agree with a scum read. If I were a mafia I'd be looking for the first opportunity to form a bandwagon against a known townie.

Misfit was the first to point the finger at me, and I wanted everyone to wait and watch for the second

Question for you Scheleosis......what's your plan to survive tomorrow? I'd say your only bet is to claim blue.

##Vote Scheleosis



The bolded part makes me highly suspicious that Zorkmid is scum. There are multiple people who think that it is likely that Shcoleosis is scum. But none of them are strongly confident about it as there is no concrete evidence of her being mafia apart from a few scum looking posts. However, Zorkmid is so confident that Shcoleosis is mafia that he is taunting her with that statement.

This seems quite scummy to be me as if Zork was mafia, he would know Shcoleosis is mafia or not and thus can make strong statements like this. This by itself can even suggest that Zorkmid is just an aggressive poster so is not sufficient by itself to give a strong mafia read.

The second part of his statement is what gives a strong mafia read. He has been posting multiple times that he is reading guides/following other mafia threads. However, I doubt that claiming blue is suggested as a good idea anywhere on Day 1. It almost seems like Zork is trying to fish out whether Shcoleosis is blue or not which seems scum-like to me.

I am going to tentatively post for Zorkmid until I hear his point of view.

##Vote Zorkmid



Shcoleosis


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The first person to suspect Shcoleosis (I think, somebody may have done it before and simply misspelled the name, in which case i missed it)
The post:
On April 15 2011 20:46 sandroba wrote:
Well, there's not much info right now, but my main suspicion right now is scholeosis. I want to get this thread going as soon as possible so here it goes:
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On April 15 2011 11:17 Shcoleosis wrote:
On April 15 2011 11:12 Eternalmisfit wrote:
Btw I think we should lynch people who are inactive or lurking the boards as it is more likely that they are trying to stay under and radar and avoid suspicion on themselves by barely posting at all.

Yeah, that seem logical. We don't want to kill innocent townies, though...It's the mafia we want gone! I highly doubt any mafia would be lurking or inactive when they have chances to kill. But who am I to say...I'm still learning :/

First he states the obvious: we don't want to kill town, we want to kill scum. Then he says he's newbie and that's obvious too, as this is a newbie game, and from what I read from guides that's usually a scum tell trying to justify his current and future behaviour.

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On April 15 2011 13:01 Shcoleosis wrote:
On April 15 2011 12:40 Zorkmid wrote:
On April 15 2011 11:41 Shcoleosis wrote:
I'm sure getting rid of the inactive would make the lynching process easier, but I can't help but question the idea of getting rid of people unnecessarily. I'm thinking about it more, and I'm realizing that there's a chance the one we lynch is scum and there's also a chance that he or she might not be scum....no way to tell right now. Hopefully we'll get lucky.


Why are you trying to protect inactives? Either they're not helping to scumhunt, or they are mafia. Let's hang em all !

Not trying to protect the inactive. I guess I just didn't really understand your logic well. But, hey, if it takes lynching the inactive to get rid of the scum, LET'S DO THIS! Lol

Here he talks about not trying to protect the inactive. Note that at this point there were 3 people inactive. Maybe he's claiming not trying to protect the inactive scum? That feels like a slip to me. Then in the last part of his post he claims he doesn't understand the clear logic of being active is pro-town as it gives us more information from which to analise.

Zorkmid agrees.
So does Vain, but he actually makes a substantial post about why:
On April 16 2011 06:38 Vain wrote:
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On April 16 2011 06:17 sandroba wrote:
Well, right now, I'm still waiting on some kind of response by scholeosis. And the other lurkers should come out of the shadows and post their opnion, or is the situation too confortable that the scum can sit back and realx?


Well i'll come out of the shadows then and will mention there is not very much too say jet. You can only argue that some are more active then others but i don't think any obvious or major slips were made. Sure, Zorkmid has like 50% of the posts but doesn't really really fit the picture of scum(jet?). I think Shcoleosis has displayed an odd behaviour by at first saying I'm still learning :/ and switching from opinion that fast but an explanation for this could be that she really isn't really into this game jet and is just afraid of being hanged the first day. Still until she can give an explenation, my vote is still on her.

As does Eternalmisfit:
On April 16 2011 07:28 Eternalmisfit wrote:

I am quite suspicious of Shcoleosis being scum.
+ Show Spoiler +

Most of the people in the town are in 2 camps: lynching lurkers or not lynching lurkers. And for the most, the people have strong opinions on the matter. Shcoleosis initially was quite against the idea at the start of the discussion. However, as my suggestion gained some support (as most of the people opposed to it posted later), she quickly jumped sides and was semi-pro for lynching inactives.
I think she is changing her opinion and trying a bit too hard to fit in which seems like scummy behavior. She has also been inactive since those posts.


FoS Shcoleosis

In response to this, I do a nice post-by-post analysis of Shcoleosis, culminating in me voting for her.
On April 16 2011 08:05 VarpuliS wrote:+ Show Spoiler +

...And as promised, here is my analysis of Shcoleosis' posts.

First post is a response to Eternalmisfit's suggestion to pressure lurkers
On April 15 2011 11:17 Shcoleosis wrote:
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On April 15 2011 11:12 Eternalmisfit wrote:
Btw I think we should lynch people who are inactive or lurking the boards as it is more likely that they are trying to stay under and radar and avoid suspicion on themselves by barely posting at all.

Yeah, that seem logical. We don't want to kill innocent townies, though...It's the mafia we want gone! I highly doubt any mafia would be lurking or inactive when they have chances to kill. But who am I to say...I'm still learning :/

This bolded line is not scummy, it's just stupid. Mafia doesn't kill by talking, they kill by pm'ing GMarshal at night. Mafia needs to avoid drawing attention to itself to prevent themselves from getting lynched. This post in general is pretty worthless, ending with a line that is... strange.
But who am I to say...I'm still learning :/

This is the first scumtell I can see. She basically says "don't listen to me, i'm new." Townies need to talk and be listened to, not ignored because this is their first game. Only mafia and blues benefit from being ignored, so unless he roleclaims, lets assume scum.

Second post comes a little bit later. the post reads:
On April 15 2011 11:41 Shcoleosis wrote:
I'm sure getting rid of the inactive would make the lynching process easier, but I can't help but question the idea of getting rid of people unnecessarily. I'm thinking about it more, and I'm realizing that there's a chance the one we lynch is scum and there's also a chance that he or she might not be scum....no way to tell right now. Hopefully we'll get lucky.

This is a post which blends in. It says practically nothing, but appears to be a contribution. Blending in is not something a townie needs to do. +1 scum level.

Finally, we've got lucky number 3:
On April 15 2011 13:01 Shcoleosis wrote:
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On April 15 2011 12:40 Zorkmid wrote:
On April 15 2011 11:41 Shcoleosis wrote:
I'm sure getting rid of the inactive would make the lynching process easier, but I can't help but question the idea of getting rid of people unnecessarily. I'm thinking about it more, and I'm realizing that there's a chance the one we lynch is scum and there's also a chance that he or she might not be scum....no way to tell right now. Hopefully we'll get lucky.


Why are you trying to protect inactives? Either they're not helping to scumhunt, or they are mafia. Let's hang em all !

Not trying to protect the inactive. I guess I just didn't really understand your logic well. But, hey, if it takes lynching the inactive to get rid of the scum, LET'S DO THIS! Lol

Here, Shcoleosis basically says: "you seem to disagree with me... fine, you're right!" Agreeing with everybody else is something that two kinds of players do:
-unhelpful townies -because they're just being sheep
-mafia -because they're trying to blend in
I don't want either in my town come lategame.

Based off of this analysis, I'd like to start putting some pressure on Shcoleosis. Until a better target surfaces or she comes up with some good posts later on, I'll put my vote on her.

## Vote Shcoleosis

This starts a bit of a bandwagon. the following people subsequently vote for Shcoleosis in the following order:
  1. sandroba -later changes vote to Senj before the bandwagon on him starts
  2. Vain
  3. Zorkmid -after analysis that I'll go over in a moment

Zorkmid's analysis of Shcoleosis:
On April 16 2011 10:03 Zorkmid wrote:
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On April 16 2011 09:51 Shcoleosis wrote:
After reading this thread entirely, here's what I think on the matter:

In my opinion, one of the first to accuse is usually the guilty one. Automatically everyone’s opinions are immediately placed under suspicion as the game progresses. That being the case, a mafia member wouldn’t express his opinions as eagerly as he would if he were agreeing with someone else’s. He would, however, be quick to blame, because doing so would divert attention away from himself.

On April 15 2011 20:53 Zorkmid wrote:
My FoS is on Shcoleosis as well for the same reasons, and will also be on anyone that jumps on Misfit's argument about this Zorkmind person.


On April 15 2011 20:06 Eternalmisfit wrote:
Also, I think the way Zorkmind is subtly derailing the discussion by talking about less fun in this mafia thread makes me wonder if has a hidden motive.


Zorkmid came up with the idea of lynching inactives and lurkers. That would work out greatly to his advantage if he were part of the mafia since it is more of an opportunity to blend, right? The more we accuse those of having a different opinion, the less of a suspect he seems to be. I am not the first to disagree with him. I am not the first to be accused because I disagreed with him. Notice how Zorkmid says he “will also be on anyone that jumps on Misfit’s argument about his Zorkmind person.” Why so defensive, Zorkmid? Perhaps he is afraid of everyone discovering how he is desperately trying to divert attention away from himself. He’s doing a great job of it. I had my suspicions about him early on because he's not only quick to agree with the majority, but he is also quick to blame. I didn't quote any other of his posts, but to me, he acts quite suspicious in most of them.


I've just learned that you should always beware of the person that is the first to agree with a scum read. If I were a mafia I'd be looking for the first opportunity to form a bandwagon against a known townie.

Misfit was the first to point the finger at me, and I wanted everyone to wait and watch for the second

Question for you Scheleosis......what's your plan to survive tomorrow? I'd say your only bet is to claim blue.

##Vote Scheleosis


Eternalmisfit again posts his suspicion:
On April 16 2011 10:59 Eternalmisfit wrote:
Just read the recent set of posts and Shcoleosis arguments. Although does she raise at least one point in her defense (i.e. she did not try to agree with what I was saying right away). Nevertheless, I am still a little suspicious of her trying to blend in (and then accusing Zorkmid of being mafia for the same reason).

His analysis:
On April 16 2011 21:36 Eternalmisfit wrote:Shcoleosis
I was suspicious of her due to low activity and trying to fit in. But, she seems to be more active now. I am still not confident that she is town but I don't get any strong vibes of her being mafia as well now.

Vain's reason for joining the Shcoleosis bandwagon:
On April 17 2011 00:26 Vain wrote:
Hmm, the reason i voted for shcoleosis is that in my opinion her behaviour was very scummy like( switching sides, saying things like first time playing guys). Witch was pointed out earlyer by the other players before me. She did not post again untill after i voted for her. I may note that the posts after that were not so much scum behaviour, but i am still not really convinced we have a better alternative. Although zorkmid could be suspected due to throwing accusations out like there is no tomorrow, which could be his strategy but is drawing attention to him and would be very risky if he were to be scum. Nevertheless zorkmid would be my number two but only to him being profoundly accusing. I haven't really looked in the accusations of the others too much but i'll try to post an analysis of them later on.


And once again, Zorkmid's analysis:
On April 17 2011 02:49 Zorkmid wrote:Shcoleosis FoS
I'm very suspicious of this player. She has been the first person to echo several ideas of other players....
Example
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On April 15 2011 11:12 Eternalmisfit wrote:
Btw I think we should lynch people who are inactive or lurking the boards as it is more likely that they are trying to stay under and radar and avoid suspicion on themselves by barely posting at all.

Yeah, that seem logical. We don't want to kill innocent townies, though...It's the mafia we want gone! I highly doubt any mafia would be lurking or inactive when they have chances to kill. But who am I to say...I'm still learning :/


I also find it very scummy that when eyes are on her, she reminds us that she's new to the game, as if that had anything to do with anything.



Eternalmisfit


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Eternalmisfit has been under suspicion of being scum a grand total of once. It was by me, a while before he started posting his good analysis. the post reads:
On April 16 2011 07:10 VarpuliS wrote:
I just looked though the thread, and pretty much 100% of Eternalmisfit's posts have been pushing for an inactive lynch day 1. He'd like to get everybody talking, but has yet to contribute in a meaningful way. If we're gonna lynch a lurker, it should either be him or Senj, who has been lurking since the beginning of the game, save a few posts about inactives.

It wasn't so much an actual suspicion, rather a way to get him talking. It worked, and he's been actively analyzing since then, so he's no longer under any suspicion from me, as of now.

Zorkmid likes him too:
On April 17 2011 02:49 Zorkmid wrote:EternalMisfit
Every post I have seen of his, has been thoughtful conversation starting analysis. I think that he has used his voting to spark even more conversation. We'll see how it goes in these last ~10 hours, but I think this mofo is town.



Vain


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Vain hasn't been super active. The first person to notice this post-early day 1 when he was asleep is Zorkmid, who posts:
On April 16 2011 03:59 Zorkmid wrote:
I'm all up for scumhunting, and will defend myself at any point that I think it's necessary. Let's hear from the lurkers!

VarpuliS
Senj
Vain

Penny for your thoughts?

Forumite subsequently classifies him as a lurker.

Because of his lurking, there's not much information about him to analyze. Thus, Eternalmisfit's analysis of him is:
On April 16 2011 21:36 Eternalmisfit wrote:Vain
He has posted multiple times throughout the thread. So, he is not as inactive as Senj/Elm, but he has not posted much of substance either. This seems a little suspicious again.


Forumite is also suspicious:
On April 16 2011 22:11 Forumite wrote:
I get a bit of bad wibes from Vain, not because he´s a slow poster, but because I don´t see him posting his own reasons for jumping on the wagon against Shcoleosis. It didn´t take long for people to start voting once the first vote was in. Zork and Sandroba voted quickly, but they had allready stated they had FoS on Shcoleosis, while Vains voting felt more like he was just agreeing rather than making up his own mind. I´d like to see some more reasons from him.

his request for a reason is granted though, so that suspicion may now have been lifted.

Zorkmid thinks that he's a townie, however:
On April 17 2011 02:49 Zorkmid wrote:
Vain
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Hmm, the reason i voted for shcoleosis is that in my opinion her behaviour was very scummy like( switching sides, saying things like first time playing guys). Witch was pointed out earlyer by the other players before me. She did not post again untill after i voted for her. I may note that the posts after that were not so much scum behaviour, but i am still not really convinced we have a better alternative. Although zorkmid could be suspected due to throwing accusations out like there is no tomorrow, which could be his strategy but is drawing attention to him and would be very risky if he were to be scum. Nevertheless zorkmid would be my number two but only to him being profoundly accusing. I haven't really looked in the accusations of the others too much but i'll try to post an analysis of them later on.


Ok, so my logic for thinking Vain is a Townie is a bit convoluted, but here goes:

I don't think that a mafioso would want to be perceived to suspect two people on opposite sides of the argument between Shcoleosis and myself. I think that Shcoleosis is scum, and I think that if Vain was scum he would be on one side or the other, defending me OR Shcoleosis. Not both of us.



If I left anything out, let me know. I focused on scum reads, as those are the most important, and for the most part didn't post any town reads other than those in the general analyses by Eternalmisfit and Zorkmid, because it was convenient for me.
For he is the Oystermeister, lord of all the oysters.
Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
April 17 2011 04:14 GMT
#237
The above post is not analysis. It is intended as a tool for analysts. Within the spoiler below each name are the people who suspect that person, and their reasons why. I made generous use of quotes, many of which I modified to remove fluff and keep concise. If you don't like how I messed with your quote, you can shove your complaint up your ass.

Well, I'm going to bed now. No doubt my previous post was riddled with mistakes, but there's nothing for it. I'll read through the responses tomorrow, but i hope this proves helpful to future analyses.
For he is the Oystermeister, lord of all the oysters.
Zorkmid
Profile Joined November 2008
4410 Posts
April 17 2011 04:19 GMT
#238
Varp, great post. Summarizes other peoples opinions well, who do you think is Mafia at this point? Who do you think is [green]town[?green]?

There isn't much in there about what YOU think.
GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
April 17 2011 04:25 GMT
#239
On April 17 2011 13:14 VarpuliS wrote:
you can shove your complaint up your ass.


No need to be rude ^_^
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sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
April 17 2011 06:26 GMT
#240
That was a great post varpulis, now I find it extremely likely you are town, as you wouldn't be making this huge effort towards making scumhunting easier if you weren't. I also agree with zork that I would like to hear your opnion as to who you think is mafia. I'm pretty pissed at Senj for not being active and screwing town over, I would like to request that he gets banned from the next few mafia games.
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