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Incognito
Profile Joined November 2008
United States2071 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-21 10:17:15
February 21 2011 08:20 GMT
#221
The following people need to post soon or risk being modkilled:

ShoCkeyy

Aaaand that's about half the players in the game. This isn't going to turn out at all.
The bureaucracy is expanding to meet the needs of the expanding bureaucracy
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
February 21 2011 08:24 GMT
#222
I'm here, just not willing to do much work unless other people step up
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
February 21 2011 08:26 GMT
#223
I've here, watching my homeland being invaded...
Damn Nor and its borders touching Stp
靈魂交響曲
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
February 21 2011 08:30 GMT
#224
should really lynch anyone trying to eliminate other players. Townies don't know who is town/scum so they should be smart enough not to kill others. Smh.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
February 21 2011 08:32 GMT
#225
Very little really that I can talk about atm.

People are randomly fighting and playing this more like diplo than mafia (although I am guilty of this as well).

I shall try to get more into this, but it will take serious discussion from more than ace to make this feel like anything other than diplo

IS I do apologize for taking Bul, but without it I am pretty well fucked if anyone decides to invade -_-
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
February 21 2011 08:40 GMT
#226
On February 21 2011 17:32 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Very little really that I can talk about atm.

People are randomly fighting and playing this more like diplo than mafia (although I am guilty of this as well).

I shall try to get more into this, but it will take serious discussion from more than ace to make this feel like anything other than diplo

IS I do apologize for taking Bul, but without it I am pretty well fucked if anyone decides to invade -_-


I call BS, I know you wanted it and is more than happy to take it from him.
靈魂交響曲
Coagulation
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States9633 Posts
February 21 2011 09:08 GMT
#227
On February 21 2011 15:37 Nemesis wrote:
Norway, Russia, or Austria, do you want to help me get rid of germany?


##Unvote Divinek
##Vote Coagulation



lol u mad?

your the aggressive one.
i had said i was willing to push after ace with LSB.
instead your pushing me.
Incognito
Profile Joined November 2008
United States2071 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-21 18:17:43
February 21 2011 10:17 GMT
#228
Vote Count for Winter 1903

citi.zen (Divinek) (3)
Ace
Fishball (3)
Divinek
Nemesis

Fishball (3)
Coagulation
citi.zen (Divinek) (3)

Ace (7)
LSB (4)
Coagulation (3)

LSB (1)
Ace (1)

Coagulation (3)
Nemesis (3)

If there is a mistake please let me know.
The bureaucracy is expanding to meet the needs of the expanding bureaucracy
Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
February 21 2011 10:18 GMT
#229
On February 21 2011 18:08 Coagulation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2011 15:37 Nemesis wrote:
Norway, Russia, or Austria, do you want to help me get rid of germany?


##Unvote Divinek
##Vote Coagulation



lol u mad?

your the aggressive one.
i had said i was willing to push after ace with LSB.
instead your pushing me.


your =/= you're
靈魂交響曲
citi.zen
Profile Joined April 2009
2509 Posts
February 21 2011 14:50 GMT
#230
Anyone else care about the thief taking the vigilante role?
Aut viam inveniam, aut faciam.
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
February 21 2011 15:15 GMT
#231
On February 21 2011 23:50 citi.zen wrote:
Anyone else care about the thief taking the vigilante role?

I'm not really concerned with that, since I believe Ace is Mafia.
If he was thief, it's really strange that he would claim this early. It would be understandable if he claimed 1904, but 1902 is just...

However, we do still have to consider the possibility if Ace actually is thief, that would mean our 1903 lynch should be used to root out the thief because in 1904 Mafia can hit and kill two people.
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
citi.zen
Profile Joined April 2009
2509 Posts
February 21 2011 15:28 GMT
#232
Also, I will keep my vote on Fishball. Not because we share a border - neither of us can really make another move for lack of support.

I will vote for him for this post:

On February 17 2011 08:30 Fishball wrote:
I've pretty much listed the alternate route in my post above, which is the current route the game is actually taking - wait it out.
I can see why no talking could lead to a bad ending, especially so when there is limited time for Town to win. I'm also not strongly opposing your proposal to mass claiming, but I'd rather be a bit more conservative here. This game is small enough, and has a relatively good player base to decide for itself so I'll go with the consensus. With that being said, I'm pretty sure you're well aware of the downside of claiming this early of the game.

Keep in mind, the above is just your typical Mafia vs Town mindset. I'm sure many others, including me wouldn't mind going for the epic 12 SC solo win.

The first part is wishy-washy: maybe he's against the plan, but he'll go with the other players; maybe not talking is bad, but let's not talk substantively about anything either.

The second part gently encourages others to go for the "epic win". I don't like that one bit - as I stated before. The mafia will work together to prevent us from getting there. If all else fails kill someone who gets close at night. This "epic solo win strategy" distracts the town at this stage.

Thus far Fishball reads like someone trying to seem active and fly under the radar. I see no real effort to catch reds or help the town, only discrete comments to promote confusion and some spam. Red behavior.
Aut viam inveniam, aut faciam.
Nemesis
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada2568 Posts
February 21 2011 16:06 GMT
#233
On February 21 2011 18:08 Coagulation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2011 15:37 Nemesis wrote:
Norway, Russia, or Austria, do you want to help me get rid of germany?


##Unvote Divinek
##Vote Coagulation



lol u mad?

your the aggressive one.
i had said i was willing to push after ace with LSB.
instead your pushing me.

Ahem push after ace? Is that why you are taking over my land?

Ace, can you provide an example game on a no fliip game so maybe we have a better idea of what you are talking about?

citi.zen, vigi can't shoot during 1902, but it would indeed be troublesome for 1904.
Lee Young Ho fighting! KT P are just CHINTOSSTIC.
infinitestory
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4053 Posts
February 21 2011 18:31 GMT
#234
On February 21 2011 17:32 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
IS I do apologize for taking Bul, but without it I am pretty well fucked if anyone decides to invade -_-

I'm more fucked without Bul, seeing as the number of people who could turn around and invade is ~4, and seeing as I don't have a fleet yet, I can't convoy as an escape route.


I also want to see an example game from Ace where massclaim helps. I'm not yet sold on the idea, and I do agree that the timing of Ace's vig claim is odd (even if there isn't a counterclaim).
Translator:3
Coagulation
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States9633 Posts
February 21 2011 18:32 GMT
#235
On February 22 2011 00:28 citi.zen wrote:
Also, I will keep my vote on Fishball. Not because we share a border - neither of us can really make another move for lack of support.

I will vote for him for this post:

Show nested quote +
On February 17 2011 08:30 Fishball wrote:
I've pretty much listed the alternate route in my post above, which is the current route the game is actually taking - wait it out.
I can see why no talking could lead to a bad ending, especially so when there is limited time for Town to win. I'm also not strongly opposing your proposal to mass claiming, but I'd rather be a bit more conservative here. This game is small enough, and has a relatively good player base to decide for itself so I'll go with the consensus. With that being said, I'm pretty sure you're well aware of the downside of claiming this early of the game.

Keep in mind, the above is just your typical Mafia vs Town mindset. I'm sure many others, including me wouldn't mind going for the epic 12 SC solo win.

The first part is wishy-washy: maybe he's against the plan, but he'll go with the other players; maybe not talking is bad, but let's not talk substantively about anything either.

The second part gently encourages others to go for the "epic win". I don't like that one bit - as I stated before. The mafia will work together to prevent us from getting there. If all else fails kill someone who gets close at night. This "epic solo win strategy" distracts the town at this stage.

Thus far Fishball reads like someone trying to seem active and fly under the radar. I see no real effort to catch reds or help the town, only discrete comments to promote confusion and some spam. Red behavior.



i think your aces scumbuddy
citi.zen
Profile Joined April 2009
2509 Posts
February 21 2011 18:37 GMT
#236
It's 8 vs. 3 now. If we mis-lynch + mafia hits someone it will be 6 vs. 3. I can see situations where this is already LYLO, depending on the voting power distribution.

Start talking - you will not get to 12 cores as town.
Aut viam inveniam, aut faciam.
infinitestory
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4053 Posts
February 21 2011 18:39 GMT
#237
##Vote BC

Because the least you could have done is tell me to move aside. At least that way I would have had time to prepare a fleet on Gre.
Translator:3
infinitestory
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4053 Posts
February 21 2011 18:41 GMT
#238
Also, I agree that citi.zen/divinek looks slightly red, based on that fiasco in the beginning where divinek went aggressive on Russia and then pulled out the "I'm noob" card back on page 6.
Translator:3
infinitestory
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4053 Posts
February 21 2011 18:51 GMT
#239
On February 21 2011 23:50 citi.zen wrote:
Anyone else care about the thief taking the vigilante role?

oh btw guys I reread the OP because I thought something sounded wrong here, thief doesn't steal the role like apprentice, it's actually a mafia DT from what I can tell.

no spreading misinformation pls

I am, however, legitimately concerned that Ace is Godfather taking on Vig's role, since Vig doesn't even do anything until 1904 but is still a power role.
Translator:3
citi.zen
Profile Joined April 2009
2509 Posts
February 21 2011 19:09 GMT
#240
Thief:
You have the ability to ask for the role of a specific player. You may use this ability during the winter of any even year (Winter 1902, Winter 1904, Winter 1906, etc.).


"Ask for" implies some sort of transfer of power to me, but incognito can clarify. Otherwise it would be "ask about" or something like that.

Perhaps you already asked in a pm?
Aut viam inveniam, aut faciam.
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