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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
December 27 2010 03:57 GMT
#201
5 votes in thirty minutes for pandain. Thats a bit unsettling. But it will give us something to work with.
Together but separate, like oatmeal
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
December 27 2010 03:59 GMT
#202
When I say to vote inactives, I mean to vote those who “contribute without really contributing”, which usually fall under the category of inactives, but not always. Mr wiggles so forth has not been really contributing, and until most recently I was not satisfied with his posts, which were all spam. I am satisfied(at the moment) with Mr. Wiggles however, and will go forth with voting another person(Jackal.) However, I would still like to see you, Mr. Wiggles, striving to make long, well thought out posts.

But most curious of all is the sudden bandwagon on me. RoL and Coag I can explain off to jokes, but then Mr. Wiggles and treehugger voting me is quite curious. May both of you explain your votes?

Summary
1.Mr. Wiggles had not contributed well, which is why I voted him.
tree.hugger
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
December 27 2010 04:01 GMT
#203
On December 27 2010 12:57 bumatlarge wrote:
5 votes in thirty minutes for pandain. Thats a bit unsettling. But it will give us something to work with.

Exactly.

Also, much as I love polarized votes, and I figure we should force one as frequently as possible, it's a mistake to read too much into them. Often, especially on the first day, the accused are just a batch of greens. Mafia are pretty good about not being the inactive the town decides to target.

Which is why we should pick people like Pandain, put them on the spot, see if they sweat, and move on if they don't. Eventually, we'll have two good candidates, force votes on either/or, and then work from there. But by no means is one list all mafia, and the other not. Early information is good, but it needs to be given the respect (or lack of respect) that it deserves.
ModeratorEffOrt, Snow, GuMiho, and Team Liquid
Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
December 27 2010 04:13 GMT
#204
I think my vote was a bit of a hair trigger reaction brought on by fear and the desire for self protection. I think your very early votes to pressure people into posting more is going to cause the same sort of reaction in a lot of people. What you are doing, while having the potential to be helpful, can also be seen as very aggressive play. Like tree.hugger said, it's going to be pretty polarizing. If nothing comes of this, or a better candidate arises, I'll probably move on and change my vote.
you gotta dance
Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
December 27 2010 04:20 GMT
#205
Also, to add on to what I said earlier, and it pertains to my post above as well, newer players are going to be a lot more unpredictable and more easily influenced, so they're going to be likely to jump on bandwagons when there isn't much guidance. This is also going to cause some obfuscation when people are trying to figure things out.
you gotta dance
Coagulation
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States9633 Posts
December 27 2010 04:24 GMT
#206
voting for someone solely based on the fact that they voted for you is called OMGUS and is generally a scum tell.

best thing to do is ignore it and continue to scumhunt.. unless your mafia.. and you have nothing better to do anyway.

TheMango
Profile Joined April 2007
United States1967 Posts
December 27 2010 04:24 GMT
#207
On December 27 2010 11:43 LSB wrote:
TheMango, just a question, why is it that when I try stalking you some of you posts don't show up in your post history?


Hmm, shows up for me, are you going to my profile page and clicking on my post count, or doing a search? both show up properly for me :o
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LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
December 27 2010 04:26 GMT
#208
I don't believe Pandain is mafia just because he fingered Mr. Wiggles.

Clearly at the time Mr. Wiggles did not contribute anything, and Pandain just voted to accent his point.

Indeed, as Ver put in his town guide, spamming can be detrimental to the town.

Now, I don't belive we should lynch Mr. Wiggles. It is far to early to tell anything about him, and also I'd rather lynch a lurker/inactive than a spammer.
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
December 27 2010 04:29 GMT
#209
On December 27 2010 13:24 TheMango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 27 2010 11:43 LSB wrote:
TheMango, just a question, why is it that when I try stalking you some of you posts don't show up in your post history?


Hmm, shows up for me, are you going to my profile page and clicking on my post count, or doing a search? both show up properly for me :o

Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
December 27 2010 04:30 GMT
#210
EBWOP
On December 27 2010 13:24 TheMango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 27 2010 11:43 LSB wrote:
TheMango, just a question, why is it that when I try stalking you some of you posts don't show up in your post history?


Hmm, shows up for me, are you going to my profile page and clicking on my post count, or doing a search? both show up properly for me :o

Yep, thats what I'm doing.
It looks like there is a little time lag between what you post and what shows up in the search function.

Maybe this is normal... Haven't actually tried searching for posts this recent before.
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
seRapH
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9756 Posts
December 27 2010 04:31 GMT
#211
Since we're discussing lynching inactives (which at this point I mostly agree with unless something drastically better pops up) what are we using to define "inactive"? <5 posts? No meaningful posts? And how will we pick the inactive? Or should we all pick our own inactive to lynch?
boomer hands
TheMango
Profile Joined April 2007
United States1967 Posts
December 27 2010 04:34 GMT
#212
I thought inactives were automatically mod killed/replaced? Also, isn't it way too early to even vote now, since i'd say half the people have yet to post/read their role PM's?
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flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-27 21:26:36
December 27 2010 04:36 GMT
#213
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TL Mafia XXXV: Day 1 Start

Twas the day after Christmas, and all through the house
Every creature was stirring, except for the mouse.
It hid in its hole and trembled and stared
As shadows crept by that were not supposed to be there.

That night, Incognito slept, all snug in his bed,
While nightmares of darkness crept through his head.
And Ver with the bat, and I with the gun,
Patrolled the rooms--the night had begun.

When out on the lawn there arose such a clatter,
I ran to the door to see what was the matter.
Away from the window I flew like a flash,
As a hooded figure leapt in with a crash.

Suddenly the moon appeared from behind a cloud,
Illuminating the face that hid beneath the shroud.
I turned, lined up my gun with Ace's head,
And like that, the walls were painted blood red.

I looked at the body, turned around to shout:
"Mafia are in. Everybody, get out!"
As I ran through the rooms, more shadows appeared
Some short, some tall, and one with a beard.

Running into the kitchen, I stopped in my stead,
For I saw that Ver was already dead.
His elvish killer, drinking coffee, looked up and grinned
And I shot him, oh did that smile rescind.

Gun ablaze, I sprang up the stairs
I had to get up to see how top fared.
However, it seemed I was already too late--
Incognito had already succumbed to his fate.

However, of two more did I know
Holed up in another room, ready to go.
I ran for that room, but what did I find--
We had a traitor in our midst, and of that I was blind.

BloodyC0bbler laughed, and tossed aside
The body of Qatol, and then he tried
To come at me, but I shot him down.
As he lay dying, he said with a frown:

"Just you wait, hold onto your life.
He is coming, with gun and with knife.
You've been way too naughty, and oh-so-not-nice.
You will be hacked and mangled, sliced and diced."

As he died, I heard the floor creak
So outside of the room I hazarded a peak.
And the man outside made me very much dread,
White-haired, white-bearded, in a suit of red.

He chuckled loudly, and I prepared to fire.
Alas, gun was empty--the situation was dire.
I backed into the room, trying to reload
And into the room Santa Claus strode.

He cackled, and pulled out a large blade
And he slashed me once, the world began to fade.
As I lay dying, he said with delight:
"A late Christmas to all, and to you... a good night."



Ver the Vigilante is now dead.
Incognito the Cute is now dead.
Qatol the Lawyer is now dead.
flamewheel the Vigilante is now dead.
Ace the Mafia Elf is now dead.
BloodyC0bber the Traitor is now dead.



The game is afoot. This first post has been delayed, but from this point forward you have until 03:00 GMT (+00:00) on the 28th of December to vote. The voting thread is located here, and remember that if you do not post and vote you will be subject to modkill.
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
seRapH
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9756 Posts
December 27 2010 04:36 GMT
#214
Inactives with zero posts or votes will be modkilled/replaced, so I guess what I meant was lurkers. How will we determine who are lurkers and how will we pick which to be irradiated?
boomer hands
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
December 27 2010 04:37 GMT
#215
On December 27 2010 13:31 seRapH wrote:
Since we're discussing lynching inactives (which at this point I mostly agree with unless something drastically better pops up) what are we using to define "inactive"? <5 posts? No meaningful posts? And how will we pick the inactive? Or should we all pick our own inactive to lynch?

+ Show Spoiler +
Disclaimer: I don't believe that we'll actually lynch an inactive.


How about Zero meaningful posts? If all they have is spam and one vote with an explination of "I agree". That would be an inactive

Or if we seriously have no idea what to do, we could lynch someone about to be modkilled, a way to essentially abstain
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
December 27 2010 04:39 GMT
#216
5/5! And Merry Christmas to you too!
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
Node
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States2159 Posts
December 27 2010 04:39 GMT
#217
On December 27 2010 13:34 TheMango wrote:
I thought inactives were automatically mod killed/replaced? Also, isn't it way too early to even vote now, since i'd say half the people have yet to post/read their role PM's?


Only complete inactives -- people who don't vote or post at all -- are modkilled. An inactive person as far as lynching purposes go would be someone who doesn't actually contribute anything to the discussions at hand. Posts that are spammy and few, votes without justification, and a general lack of contribution to the discussion are all pretty indicative of someone who would make a good lynch for inactivity.
whole lies with a half smile
seRapH
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9756 Posts
December 27 2010 04:40 GMT
#218
On December 27 2010 13:37 LSB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 27 2010 13:31 seRapH wrote:
Since we're discussing lynching inactives (which at this point I mostly agree with unless something drastically better pops up) what are we using to define "inactive"? <5 posts? No meaningful posts? And how will we pick the inactive? Or should we all pick our own inactive to lynch?

+ Show Spoiler +
Disclaimer: I don't believe that we'll actually lynch an inactive.


How about Zero meaningful posts? If all they have is spam and one vote with an explination of "I agree". That would be an inactive

Or if we seriously have no idea what to do, we could lynch someone about to be modkilled, a way to essentially abstain

Except they could be replaced, not necessarily modkilled.
boomer hands
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
December 27 2010 04:41 GMT
#219
First off, let's try to keep non related things to a mininum? LSB you can PM mango, you're sort of ruining my whole "not spam" agenda :/.

On December 27 2010 13:31 seRapH wrote:
Since we're discussing lynching inactives (which at this point I mostly agree with unless something drastically better pops up) what are we using to define "inactive"? <5 posts? No meaningful posts? And how will we pick the inactive? Or should we all pick our own inactive to lynch?


I really should have clarified this. When I say we are lynching inactives, we are not just lynching inactives, we are really lynching people who "contribute without really contributing." As in, we're trying to pressure people who don't talk so that people will talk. Basically, if someone hasn't made a meaningful post, I'm going to vote for them. I'm picking them somewhat at random, but really we should all decide on one(and then another, and so forth like I'm doing) so that the pressure is really there.

On December 27 2010 13:34 TheMango wrote:
I thought inactives were automatically mod killed/replaced? Also, isn't it way too early to even vote now, since i'd say half the people have yet to post/read their role PM's?

This would make sense however there is more than one reason to start voting now. By starting out with the "be active or die" stance people are encouraged to post from the start. The main problem with day 1 is the lack of information, and sometimes day 2 happens and since no one posted, we're basically at the same state as day 2. Votes serve a double purpose right now: they generate discussion and they get people to post meaningful content.
Node
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States2159 Posts
December 27 2010 04:42 GMT
#220
11/10 on that day post. That was fantastic. :O
whole lies with a half smile
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