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On June 05 2011 15:09 omgCRAZY wrote:
With this being a newbies game I wouldn't be surprised that someone wants to get a handle on the game.
What I find interesting is how aprudds was so quick to get everyones attention focused on someone else and how the game has barely started and yet cherubael and Jimboo are already throwing out votes.
His subsequent posts were fishy. Due to that I hopped on the voting bandwagon along with them. Its a 40 player game, I'm sure we can afford a few mislynches. Regardless, we should continue scumhunting. We do have 48 hours.
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On June 05 2011 15:09 omgCRAZY wrote:
With this being a newbies game I wouldn't be surprised that someone wants to get a handle on the game.
What I find interesting is how aprudds was so quick to get everyones attention focused on someone else and how the game has barely started and yet cherubael and Jimboo are already throwing out votes.
Sitting around doesn't hunt scum. Generating discussion hunts scum. It's only been a few hours into the game and there has already been some interesting things going on including the early voting and the ambiguous defense.
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I also at first thought we should keep an eye on freeloader , I don't think he is definitely mafia , but we should keep an eye on him. I DID vote , but I don't think he is CERTAINLY mafia, he is just very suspicious.
I feel like we should trust people a little more , because now people feel like they will get accused with every post and town can't function that way.
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That is true. I have only looked over one other Mafia game so I don't have a lot of experience if players vote and unvote a lot over the course of a day or not, after the few responses we got from Freelancer265 I did do an EBWOP saying how his subsequent responses added to his suspicion.
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In the shadows lies
A peculiar type of Man
Kuze is my name.
In this game, I will start all of my posts with haikus. Enjoy ^^
On June 05 2011 14:39 cherubael wrote:Show nested quote +On June 05 2011 14:06 freeloader625 wrote:On June 05 2011 14:03 Jimbooo wrote:On June 05 2011 14:02 freeloader625 wrote:On June 05 2011 13:49 cherubael wrote:On June 05 2011 13:35 aprudds wrote:On June 05 2011 12:44 freeloader625 wrote:
Omg I'm so excited for this. I read all the rules twice and just want to ask to anyone willing to answer (before the game starts) since these were not answered in the thread rules:
1) Since PMs are not allowed, how would mafia communicate with each other?
2) Once someone dies whether it be by votes or mafia hit, will their roles be revealed?
Thanks and GL everyone! (I've only played SC2 Mafia before and got hooked) Hmm, a bit suspicious no? Right when the PM are getting sent out too. Scum slip? A bit of a bold accusation, I would say. However, I do have to agree, the first question does look a bit suspicious. After all, a townie would have *no* reason to ask such a question, as they can't PM anyway. Oh but a townie does have reasons to ask such a question. Don't take my SC2 Mafia as lack of experience, I was able to deduce roles within the 50seconds given. :D What reason does a townie have to ask such a question? All I can say is, all too often the first one to speak is "put on trial." Sleep on it. So...you asked a question so you could be lynched day one...alright...that makes sense. (note the sarcasm) Either you give a legitimate, straight reason to ask this sort of question as townie, or you clearly are just trying to save your butt after having messed and shown your role as mafia. Also, Aril, you seem to be very quick in defending him, while not wanting to accuse anyone. Are you afraid your role will be too obvious if you accuse someone? Also, what reason do you have to defend him? What has he done for you? The only reason would be because you are both mafia, and you are trying to look out for him.
He has plenty of reasons to be a townie. Don't even think about that kind of McCarthy Bullshit this early in the game.
Anyone voting this early deserves some measure of suspicion.
Also, I am schwasted, so this may not make a lot of sense. (White Russians are the best!)
But.
If you are new to mafia, welcome. A quick word of advice: Think before you act. Those people who have already voted are acting too hastily. a 40 man game is much more about reasoning than putting pressure on someone. And the only reason you would vote this early is to put pressure on someone.
Things to note about this game:
Detectives instead of watchers: This gives us hard checks (with a few exceptions) on who is scum/town. Town needs to know this information, and we need to keep it out of the hands of mafia. For new players, this is where crumbing comes in. Crumbing is leaving clues about what you want to say. The best crumbs will be deciphered by us and not by scum. However, crumbs can be used a different way, in that you leave crumbs no one can decipher and then reveal multiple crumbs later. This is good if you are new because often times no one can understand your crumbs anyways since you don't have experience.
Vigilantes: Need to not use your shots immediately. You are MUCH more likely to hit a civilian than scum at first, and also more likely to caus confusion.
Those are the two most important roles this game.
Regarding discussion:
Freeloader is probably not scum. He is new and likely inexperienced. However, just to be sure, a cop needs to check him tonight. Which reminds me:
If a miller is roleblocked, what does he return to investiagtion?
Anyways, many good ideas floating around for a newbie game :p Keep up the good work
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Hello dudes,
I just woke up to find out that the Mafia has begun their attack on the innocent townies. Hell, it was about time. It's gonna be a looooooong day.
I really can't support aprudds random accusation based on a question asked before the game. It seems to me that he is just testing the water so to speak - who is willing to quick vote, who is willing to jump on bandwagons, who will try to defend the inoccent until they are proven guilty without a doubt, and who is going to lurk and never post until directly mentioned? Waaaay to early to answer those questions.
So let's have ourselves a nice clean random lynch at Day1, and most importantly Good Luck and Have Fun.
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cherubel wrote:
Also, what reason do you have to defend him?
I didn't even see this.
If you use this argument again I will be sure you die. If Townies don't defend other townies from bullshit attacks, this game will end quite rapidly, and not in our favor.
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On June 05 2011 15:24 omgCRAZY wrote:
That is true. I have only looked over one other Mafia game so I don't have a lot of experience if players vote and unvote a lot over the course of a day or not, after the few responses we got from Freelancer265 I did do an EBWOP saying how his subsequent responses added to his suspicion.
Either this should be linked in the first few posts or people should start saying what their acronyms mean when they first use them. They only make things faster if they're understood.
And yeah - freeloader's first post was only mildly suspicious (although it was mildly suspicious) but his subsequent ones were rather more so. Also, he's probably still online and they're currently the best we have to go on. So I'm gonna vote but change in the next 24 hours or so if someone more suspicious comes up.
I suspect that most of the mafia are gonna be trying to lay low, post only "check-in" posts and whatnot. So keep your eyes peeled for that sort of thing - although, early on, that kinda posting might just mean its midnight and people want to go to bed (so gtsrs and 35spike1 are off the hook for now).
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On June 05 2011 15:36 iGrok wrote:
Those people who have already voted are acting too hastily.
Is it really too hasty if you plan on (probably) changing your vote? I'm honestly asking. Also, you sound like you're aomewhat experienced, is that right?
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I have to say, it probably is better to not vote until your sure of it and wont change your vote , but as of now I'm keeping my vote as is.
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On June 05 2011 15:39 iGrok wrote:I didn't even see this. If you use this argument again I will be sure you die. If Townies don't defend other townies from bullshit attacks, this game will end quite rapidly, and not in our favor.
I forgot a Haiku with this, so EBWOP Haiku:
Human Decency
Like the tide to a mud crab
Rare, yet so vital
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On June 05 2011 15:44 Treadmill wrote:Show nested quote +On June 05 2011 15:36 iGrok wrote:
Those people who have already voted are acting too hastily. Is it really too hasty if you plan on (probably) changing your vote? I'm honestly asking. Also, you sound like you're aomewhat experienced, is that right?
[/i]Back, Forth, Pendulum;
As Time keeps ticking forward.
The Record remains.[/i]
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On June 05 2011 15:15 Treadmill wrote:
As I said earlier, "we should keep an eye on Freeloader". But that's it. There will certainly be much more conversation before the end of the first day.
A few thoughts:
There are 8 mafia but do we know how much killing power they have? If 6 normally get 3 kills/night would it be sensible to extrapolate that 8 get 4?
How do you know how many mafia there are? I thought role counts are not disclosed.
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On June 05 2011 16:11 heist wrote:Show nested quote +On June 05 2011 15:15 Treadmill wrote:
As I said earlier, "we should keep an eye on Freeloader". But that's it. There will certainly be much more conversation before the end of the first day.
A few thoughts:
There are 8 mafia but do we know how much killing power they have? If 6 normally get 3 kills/night would it be sensible to extrapolate that 8 get 4? How do you know how many mafia there are? I thought role counts are not disclosed.
In the second post it says 8 mafia , 32 town.
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On June 05 2011 16:11 heist wrote:Show nested quote +On June 05 2011 15:15 Treadmill wrote:
As I said earlier, "we should keep an eye on Freeloader". But that's it. There will certainly be much more conversation before the end of the first day.
A few thoughts:
There are 8 mafia but do we know how much killing power they have? If 6 normally get 3 kills/night would it be sensible to extrapolate that 8 get 4? How do you know how many mafia there are? I thought role counts are not disclosed.
Lead by example
The most important questions
Must be answered now
If you have a question regarding the game setup, ask it like so:
How does Mafia KP work? Is it #/2, a fixed number, etc?
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On June 05 2011 16:19 iGrok wrote:Show nested quote +On June 05 2011 16:11 heist wrote:On June 05 2011 15:15 Treadmill wrote:
As I said earlier, "we should keep an eye on Freeloader". But that's it. There will certainly be much more conversation before the end of the first day.
A few thoughts:
There are 8 mafia but do we know how much killing power they have? If 6 normally get 3 kills/night would it be sensible to extrapolate that 8 get 4? How do you know how many mafia there are? I thought role counts are not disclosed. Lead by example
The most important questions
Must be answered nowIf you have a question regarding the game setup, ask it like so: How does Mafia KP work? Is it #/2, a fixed number, etc?
You ask with green not blue.
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On June 05 2011 16:27 aprudds wrote:Show nested quote +On June 05 2011 16:19 iGrok wrote:On June 05 2011 16:11 heist wrote:On June 05 2011 15:15 Treadmill wrote:
As I said earlier, "we should keep an eye on Freeloader". But that's it. There will certainly be much more conversation before the end of the first day.
A few thoughts:
There are 8 mafia but do we know how much killing power they have? If 6 normally get 3 kills/night would it be sensible to extrapolate that 8 get 4? How do you know how many mafia there are? I thought role counts are not disclosed. Lead by example
The most important questions
Must be answered nowIf you have a question regarding the game setup, ask it like so: How does Mafia KP work? Is it #/2, a fixed number, etc? You ask with green not blue.
Olol.
No haiku this time. Pardon the wino in the corner. Yes, it is green and not blue. EBWOP: Change to green.
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ah my bad. its actually in the third post with the roster.
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Freeloader asked a legitimate question IMO.
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I think freeloaders mistake is that he dropped a pretty suspicious question when everyone is searching for the smallest clue. Personally i think he was being stupid asking that question, not necessarily scum.
On June 05 2011 16:39 TheKK wrote:
Freeloader asked a legitimate question IMO.
it was a question only Mafia would want to ask, he probably was just curious but still it was pretty silly. I however agree with aprudd that freeloader should be kept an eye on, but lets not quite lynch him for something that small yet.
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