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WardenSC
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada210 Posts
July 21 2011 23:45 GMT
#141
Hi WCX,

Appreciate the comments, but I feel that you are quite mistaken on some issues.

1. Yes, actually I've been raging quite a lot recently - I've been grinding the ladder for so long these days, to a point where I got sick of sc2 pretty much. Yet I was just laddering and laddering for the purpose of streaming. That and along with some sick losing streaks I have vented out my frustration in stream and I am sorry for that. I am going to take a few days off until I feel like I want to play sc2 again (which obviously will happen since I love playing the game). I understand its unprofessional and apologize if I've hurt your feelings - I'll keep it to a minimum.

2. I have no clue how long you've been watching my stream, but I have never raged in team games. If I was going to get worked up about team games, I wouldn't even play team games with viewers at all, period. Also if you are referring to yesterday's games, at least 2 of the players I've gotten to know them for a while (more than a month) so if I was calling him a noob I was really doing that in jest. And they call me noobs too lol. I think you are overreacting to this "fan team game" stuff, I am really doing this for fun and to enjoy with my viewers.

3. It is true that my brother trolls me and viewers sometimes in the chat, and I've talked to him about it in more than one occasion. I've also put him in timed out, and banned him in some days as well. I'll make sure to warn him not to do this again, but at the end of the day, he's my brother and I am not going to ban him permanently.

I appreciate your post and I'll take good measures to improve my stream even better ^^
JinRohCommando
Profile Joined March 2011
Switzerland11 Posts
July 22 2011 00:04 GMT
#142
You guys take this too serious.
Warden is a human, like you and me. I get mad and angry too if I lose to stupid mistakes and every game after that is a try-hard match, which leads to more mistakes and more rage. If you don't understand this, then something is wrong with you guys. Let him rage, it is his right.
He is streaming for us, he would be in a way better spot if he wouldnt stream, but he knows that there are fans out there who love watching his stream and hang arround with the other viewers in the chat. Its a fun place and we would prefere, letting him have a break and see him return instead of seeing him rage and get frustrated more and more. In the end, we want him to be successful in SC2 and enjoying the game.
Also, the BM between him and his viewers isnt something to be taken serious, we all laugh about it cause we know, its just jokeing and having fun.
And the trolling brother, just remeber: Its the interwebz guys! If you feel offended by trolls, then the internet isnt a place for you.

Enjoy your break Warden, dont feel bad or anything else what ppl are telling you, you did nothing wrong and your stream is the best! See you whenever you feel alright again.
It's a joke, it's all a joke... lord fogive me..
WCX
Profile Joined July 2011
74 Posts
July 22 2011 01:53 GMT
#143
On July 22 2011 08:45 WardenSC wrote:
Hi WCX,

Appreciate the comments, but I feel that you are quite mistaken on some issues.

1. Yes, actually I've been raging quite a lot recently - I've been grinding the ladder for so long these days, to a point where I got sick of sc2 pretty much. Yet I was just laddering and laddering for the purpose of streaming. That and along with some sick losing streaks I have vented out my frustration in stream and I am sorry for that. I am going to take a few days off until I feel like I want to play sc2 again (which obviously will happen since I love playing the game). I understand its unprofessional and apologize if I've hurt your feelings - I'll keep it to a minimum.

2. I have no clue how long you've been watching my stream, but I have never raged in team games. If I was going to get worked up about team games, I wouldn't even play team games with viewers at all, period. Also if you are referring to yesterday's games, at least 2 of the players I've gotten to know them for a while (more than a month) so if I was calling him a noob I was really doing that in jest. And they call me noobs too lol. I think you are overreacting to this "fan team game" stuff, I am really doing this for fun and to enjoy with my viewers.

3. It is true that my brother trolls me and viewers sometimes in the chat, and I've talked to him about it in more than one occasion. I've also put him in timed out, and banned him in some days as well. I'll make sure to warn him not to do this again, but at the end of the day, he's my brother and I am not going to ban him permanently.

I appreciate your post and I'll take good measures to improve my stream even better ^^



Hey Warden,

Thanks for taking the time to respond to the post. I have been watching your stream on and off for several weeks, sometimes live and other times VODs. Just to quickly go over your points:

For point #1, the issue is not whether you've hurt my feelings (you haven't), but whether other viewers have made the same observation and been turned off of the stream. I think the problem has only been in the recent 1-2 weeks, where it's spiked to quite a high % of time. I don't think 50% is an exaggeration (at least not when you only stream for 5 hours and maybe a single gruesome TvT where you're absolutely pissed will take up an entire 1 hour, and that's just a single game out of others in which you'll be playing while angry). It used to be fine before so maybe you're just a bit burned out. I do think you're usually pretty funny. Next week when season 3 starts hopefully you'll be refreshed b/c you can finally see if your work has been paying off and you can get accounts #3 and #4 to GM.

For point #2, it's just the sense I got. Maybe this last week has just been worse. Everything is recorded in the VODs so you could always just watch them if you haven't been conscientious of what's going on. I have absolutely not exaggerated any of my assertions in my original post. I could you give you specific timestamps in your VODs for all of points (calling them "pathetic" and "pussies". Yelling at other people when you got 6 pooled even though it's b/c you didn't wall your own choke. Not paying attention to your teammates or even bothering to help them, like when you yelled at those 2 guys for not telling you they were being attacked and they said "dude, we pinged you 30 seconds ago". etc.) Maybe you know like 1-2 of the guys, but I'm under the assumption that most of your teammates are random strangers and stream watchers. It just seems you yell at them a lot for stuff that's not even their fault.

For point #3, what else can I say? Apparently Soyboy was compelled to make a new TL account and create his 1st post to respond to me, so I must have hit a sore point, which is the truth. I don't know if you were aware, but when you were coaching slayersgrack, your brother was going around shitting all over justin.tv stream chat. Everyone was wondering what was going on. He even banned Wardenfan or at least deleted all his chat text. I mean, a guy is close enough to you to name himself Wardenfan, and your bro feels compelled to ban him. Like what the hell? I can't be the only one to know it was a problem cuz Domino had to be called in to shut him up.

Aside from all that though, I want to make it clear that overall I think your stream is fantastic. I do think it deserves to be featured on TL. I made my post because I want your stream to succeed but yet never see more than 50 viewers. Maybe your viewer count is currently limited b/c the stream time is when NA people are working and there's nothing you can do to bump it up to like 200+ (which implies when September comes and school restarts comes it'll dip even more).

But maybe it's also because of the points I raised. You've had 7 pages of thread with guys coming in here, many with single-digit TL post counts, praising you and saying how awesome you are. You've got your students coming in here to defend you (not a surprise at all that buddylee would come here to defend his sensei, very honorable student, and I'm not being sarcastic). You've got your friends coming in here to defend you (not a surprise at all that jinrohcommando would come here to defend you. wasn't he the guy who made your justin.tv background images?) Me, I'm just an unbiased random stream watcher and not your friend, just 1 of 50 on any given day, and these are merely my observations and opinions.

I think that other SC2 players who are much less skilled than you are having more viewers, and I want to see your stream beat theirs in viewer count. I believe your stream does deserve to get featured. The 3 points were just ones I thought might be worth considering. Disregard if you like. Best of luck to you, and I look forward to the day when your live streams hit the thousand+ count.
SOYBOY
Profile Joined July 2011
2 Posts
July 22 2011 02:14 GMT
#144
hey WCX,

Thanks for your advice to my brother. I was really hurt by your first post and you did hit me at a sore point. I would just like to apologize for my behavior and try my best to be more courteous to the viewers of Warden. It is just that xidomino stole my job as a dominos delivery boy and doesn't have the nerve to talk to me on skype of the issues at hand.
Again I would just like to say I was deeply, deeply hurt by a comment made by such a winner like yourself and I had to make an account just so we can be on the same page about domino's incompetence in solving problems. Finally, I would just like to say you spent probably a total of 45minutes replying to warden which means you have nothing better to do. Which also indicates you take first place in front of wardenfan.
binski
Profile Joined December 2010
United States225 Posts
July 22 2011 08:23 GMT
#145
^ what the hell


warden, saw ur game vs grubby :o ggs
Gonzo103
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany220 Posts
July 22 2011 09:21 GMT
#146
@ WCX

That is a really great post! Im one of the 50 viewer and also one of the single poster in this thread. In some points i´m with you in other points i´m not. The way you have written your criticism was really really respectfull... even a big troll like SOYBOY ( ;-) ) is finally thanking you for your advice.

I think its important do don´t take the hole trolling and bad/good mannered thing to serious. Sometimes i really have to smile when he is calling his opponent a stupid "all inner" (don´t forget his guide in wich he explains manny of timings for all in´s).

If more guys would write posts like you did, the quality of the most threads would rise a lot.

Sorry for my bad english i hope its understandable


PHiZH
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Denmark40 Posts
July 22 2011 10:27 GMT
#147
Warden, did MyWa stop in 4k? :o
AKA DennisGG
Belial154
Profile Joined December 2010
United States48 Posts
July 22 2011 21:56 GMT
#148
Enjoy the rest Warden! I really miss your stream as your by far the best Terran stream available, but your health is more important and this is a game, even as serious as we take it. Can't wait to see you back in action tearing sh!t up!!
I'm Rick James b#$%&
XDJuicebox
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States593 Posts
July 28 2011 02:02 GMT
#149
Hey you don't have any vods by any chance do you?
And then you know what happened all of a sudden?
WardenSC
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada210 Posts
July 28 2011 07:19 GMT
#150
I erased all my VODs since I'll be competing at MLG Anaheim this weekend ^^
I'll start streaming again after MLG, wish me luck!
Calvinist
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3 Posts
July 31 2011 16:02 GMT
#151
That explained a lot^^
Nemo Saltat Sobrius, Nisi Forte Insanit.
XDJuicebox
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States593 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-02 05:57:00
August 02 2011 05:56 GMT
#152
On July 28 2011 16:19 WardenSC wrote:
I erased all my VODs since I'll be competing at MLG Anaheim this weekend ^^
I'll start streaming again after MLG, wish me luck!


I saw you there and gave you a high five after your first match!

I rofl'd when that guy switched to toss and cheesed you that second match. And then you just destroyed him straight up in the third, that was awesome lol

And I keep checking regularly and you haven't started streaming yet ><
And then you know what happened all of a sudden?
tQWannaBe
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada133 Posts
August 04 2011 19:59 GMT
#153
Send this guy to featured stream !!!

I don't want to see this guy at user stream section !!!!
NO MERCY IN ENGINEERING
Nizzy
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States839 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-08 21:33:14
August 08 2011 21:31 GMT
#154
On July 22 2011 11:14 SOYBOY wrote:
hey WCX,

Thanks for your advice to my brother. I was really hurt by your first post and you did hit me at a sore point. I would just like to apologize for my behavior and try my best to be more courteous to the viewers of Warden. It is just that xidomino stole my job as a dominos delivery boy and doesn't have the nerve to talk to me on skype of the issues at hand.
Again I would just like to say I was deeply, deeply hurt by a comment made by such a winner like yourself and I had to make an account just so we can be on the same page about domino's incompetence in solving problems. Finally, I would just like to say you spent probably a total of 45minutes replying to warden which means you have nothing better to do. Which also indicates you take first place in front of wardenfan.


Domino's incompetence in solving problems?

What are you even talking about kid? Domino has done multiple large events for the SC2 community as well as set up flight, hotel, limo service for your brother at MLG Anaheim and you dare to bad manner him? Pathetic cheap shot comment in my opinion. Why don't you try getting on a pro/real team and try to deal with some of the issues that come up. Domino handles his shit nicely.

There's no way to put it, but nobody cares about your little comments on Warden's stream, that you're his brother, or your comments in this thread. You're just so ignorant about your comments towards Domino like you know anything he does.


EDIT: +Also make him featured please. I've seen him beat IdrA, KaKi, anyone on the American Server. His stream has decent quality, decent music, plus he usually gives legit feedback about what he is doing. Furthermore there is a lack of high end Terran NA streamers.
rhs408
Profile Joined January 2011
United States904 Posts
August 08 2011 23:56 GMT
#155
Make featured please!!!
LemonStimpax
Profile Joined May 2011
Italy7 Posts
August 09 2011 23:02 GMT
#156
We want Warden featured.
Please make it happen soon.
Cheeks
Profile Joined June 2011
Belgium2 Posts
August 16 2011 00:39 GMT
#157
Warden should have been featured a LONG time ago.
Never gg.
SrJoSeZ
Profile Joined September 2010
Peru121 Posts
August 17 2011 10:23 GMT
#158
thanks for streaming!!!
RobotPanda
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom3 Posts
August 18 2011 10:58 GMT
#159
You helped me so much with my Terran, masters is nearly in reach!

Feature this guy already!
Venomsflame
Profile Joined February 2011
United States613 Posts
August 18 2011 11:22 GMT
#160
Pshh TheoRy nomnomnoms Warden O.o

Seriously, very good stream. I switched from Protoss to Zerg(neither Terran -_-) and I still find his stream extremeley entertaining. His style of Terran is very fun to watch and the commentary is great.
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