I am a high level Platinum / low level Diamond player (end of beta phase 1) with Protoss as my primary race. I have been playing games for what seems like an eternity, though I stopped playing SC:BW when WoW was released.
During the downtime, I have been playing Final Fantasy 7 and a little of 8, League of Legends, Heroes of Newerth, and other random games like Audiosurf and Beat Hazard. When phase 2 begins, I will be playing Starcraft 2 almost exclusively, with some minor breaks here and there for the games I am playing during the downtime. This is likely to be the same method I use now upon release - exclusivity for Starcraft 2.
During the games, I commentate a little, though I have been known to start talking about things in the game (and demeaning myself for losing to scrubs) quite often... especially if I fuck up hardcore and lose to what I consider a bad player, though it is hard to actually describe what I think that actually is.
I listen to music alot during SC2 games, though not when I am trying (and failing horribly) to commentate a replay. The music I have playing when I cast is usually 181.fm's Active Rock channel, though I do on occasion listen to a variety of other music, including freestyle (the Pure Pleazure kind, not the (c)rap) and pop.
The chat is usually active as well, and I participate in the chat quite often, especially between games.
Excellent stream quality. Only seen you play LoL so far and in almost everytime you left the game or something. =/
I Suggest get a Mic, for nerd rage/ Communicate with stream/ Comment your thought process while you play. generally Talking while playing grabs more viewers
But either Way The High Res Streaming is enough to keep me.
I have a mic, just havent been using it. I have been playing LoL even though I hate the game because it is what passes the time. I have played Final Fantasy 7 all the way through recently, and have even tried playing SC:BW recently.... gawd I used to be good, now I am horrible. Oh well.
In any event, thanks for the notes. I will try to use the mic even when I dont want to =)
Man i have been watching catreina for a long time off and on. Since the days of WoW (god help us) and i gotta say... She has a high quality stream with high quality drama and a lot of high quality trolly followers. Not to say that her whole "community" is trolly infact they seem pretty decent... however her stream always seems to be a lot more focused on something dramatic or non-starcraft related... But either way entertaining sometimes like popping your head into a middle-school for a couple of minutes.
Like I said, I make really REALLY stupid mistakes (proxy under an overlord FTW!!!), but I berate myself about them almost as much as the viewers laugh and say "LOLNOOB"
I try to be fair to the viewers, and enjoy having conversation after matches, sometimes during (another of those stupid mistakes, look at chat during games)
Yeah. I have a problem with someone streaming someone else's stream and putting there stream under that event. Streaming Day9's stream just so you can put your own stream above his on the list is rather ridiculous.
On July 22 2010 11:31 Alou wrote: Yeah. I have a problem with someone streaming someone else's stream and putting there stream under that event. Streaming Day9's stream just so you can put your own stream above his on the list is rather ridiculous.
How about you lay off on the personal attacks? Her intention was not to be above Day[9]'s Stream. Further more she has actually been talking to him on and off for the past couple days about it. So leave her alone and give her a break.
Having watched Cat's stream for a while now I'd like to say that she is one of the most dedicated sc2 player I have seen. Her dedication is not only to playing the game but also religiously streaming it. Her streams usually last a good 2-3 hours minimum and during that time you get to see high level gameplay that you can learn a lot from. I really appreciate her streaming. You will not find a lot of dedicated people who always stream their gameplay and maintain a reliable schedule.
As to her "rage", we all like to deal with things in our own way, most of the time her "rage" is superficial and just for fun. The beta period was not only for blizzard to test their game but also for the stream, the proof being how Cat managed to set up a tournament at the end of phase 2. Lastly, it is her channel so her rules go. Now moving onto how her stream has progressed, her recent KitCat tournament has shown that Cat is a professional when it comes to sc2. She managed to do a last minute tournament and was able to see it to the end. The time-span in which this tournament was conceptualised and executed in was incredible and worth applaud. Her conduct during the tournament has also been excellent. I have to give it to her and cannot wait for the next KitCat. Also I'd like to commend Tesla as well, who forms the duo and contributes to the tournament, I don't think it'd be the same without her.
On top of that it is true that there is room for improvement, but these improvements are being worked on as we speak and will surface during the course of the next few tournaments. Being the first tournament though, I can only say well-done.
I hope to see Cat continuing to stream not only her own gameplay but that of the future KitCat tournaments as well.
Finally I'd like to say that there will always be people who don't like some things and have a problem, that unfortunately cannot be helped.
*excuse any spelling mistakes, I hope that doesn't offend anyone or reveal my lack of education
On July 22 2010 11:31 Alou wrote: Yeah. I have a problem with someone streaming someone else's stream and putting there stream under that event. Streaming Day9's stream just so you can put your own stream above his on the list is rather ridiculous.
How about you lay off on the personal attacks? Her intention was not to be above Day[9]'s Stream. Further more she has actually been talking to him on and off for the past couple days about it. So leave her alone and give her a break.
How did I personally attack Catreina? All I said was that I had a problem with the way she was listing her stream. I don't have anything against Catreina and only pointed out something I thought wasn't being handled correctly and needed to be brought out in the open so it could be fixed. Chill out Tesla.
Wow, a Starcraft stream where there's more talking about random crap than actual Starcraft.
Possibly even more ironic; their main insult revolves around "you people have no life" and yet they're streaming (not playing) starcraft over the internet making fun of people over the internet.
I freaking knew it was a dude. HAHAHAH. I was trolling him in his stream about having a tranny voice and he got so pissed off and argued with me for about 20 minutes and tried to show me pictures he "claimed" was him and all this other crap and eventully raged so hard I was banned.
Since when does any of that matter, or even relate to SC2?
Who cares about someones race, gender, sexual orientation, sexual preference, age, weight, height, eye color, hair color, skin complexion, nationality, background, or ANYTHING else for that matter? Its a damn game on a damn stream. Get over yourselves.
On August 04 2010 02:14 efgfails wrote: Just saying, if you're going to go around exposing yourself to the world than prepare for people to question you or be interested in you.
What some people are saying on this thread and on stream chat is not them questioning or being 'interested', it is a little short of ignorant mob behavior that ridicules and torments people for petty pleasures. You all really do need to get over yourselves. It literally is quite disgusting, some of the things I am reading.
I am a semi-public figure, whether it was planned or not (I never expected or planned for my JTV channel to get this popular). Things will be found, said, and propagated that I have absolutely no control over. Of course I know this, and I generally shrug it off because, as I said, none of it matters.
Let me explain a little on this. I am a gamer. You are a gamer. That is what matters, the game, and the skill (or lack of) that is being shown. I am trying to take things further with events like the Minerva Tournament with Tesla, but otherwise, it is still just a game being broadcast by someone. That someone can be a literal troll (you know, the chop its arm off and it grows back kind) or an angel, and I wouldn't care. I still watch other streams because they are entertaining, the same reason I play pool, go camping, or play board games.
The bottom line is that it is entertainment, and my gender or background has absolutely no bearing on it.
On August 04 2010 05:16 GGzerG wrote: wow i think raelcun is a boss for being able to call you out on that so long ago
Raelcun suggested that I use voice-modification software - I do not. This is not a call out, it was a blatant attempt to shift focus from the tournament that was being held to the organizers. It worked, I raged. But the fact is that it was not true, and so being labelled a call out is a bit... exaggerated.
I fail to understand why it matters what Catreina's gender is or was. It makes no difference to me, and it really shouldn't to the rest of you.
Catreina has done more for TL and the Starcraft scene than any of you have as far as I know. So how about we keep TL about competitive Starcraft and drop the rest of the crap? Thanks.
On August 04 2010 13:33 FrancisYork wrote: I fail to understand why it matters what Catreina's gender is or was. It makes no difference to me, and it really shouldn't to the rest of you.
Catreina has done more for TL and the Starcraft scene than any of you have as far as I know. So how about we keep TL about competitive Starcraft and drop the rest of the crap? Thanks.
Whoah whoah, hold on there.
There is absolutely no way I have done more for TL and Starcraft than some of the people on TL. I mean sure, I might have done more than the random trolls, but to say I have done more than "any of you" is a bit of a stretch.
As for why it matters (your first paragraph), it doesn't. People who are posting WANT it to matter, and that is why they are so adamant about it.
On August 04 2010 18:04 FrancisYork wrote: Sorry, I guess I didn't make it clear in my post that I was referring to just the trolls that registered to flame you.. not to everyone else on TL.
On that, I agree. Trolls generally do nothing for any community, other than attempt to destroy it.
Hmm just watched your stream and don't see much Protoss players streaming. So I'm glad you're streaming :D will be watching as a fellow protoss player and hope you don't take my advice as some flame or something just saying what I'm seeing :p And hopefully you can explain why you're doing what you're doing so I can understand the reasoning and try it out as well if it works out
Have watched 3 games already during your stream
Scrap station in mirror match -You get supply blocked a lot - Not having much zealots for a meatwall or any other unit - Good usage of phoenix but your army got melted away
Another Protoss mirror don't remember map name (4 player map) - funny thing to try and research range upgrade for collossus while you had 90 gas :D - only few units in your army (stalker/sentry/zealot) after 6-8 minutes - a 2gate zealot pressure/4gate push / 3gate robo timing push would have easily beaten you right now but opponent isn't doing any pressure just expanding which you're also doing which is good - 18 probes on your main mineral line and when expansion is done you took 16 probes and put it to your expansion which means u had 2 probes on your main mineral line instead -> maybe would be best if you divide your mineral probes in half and send 1 half to your expansion. - Very passive playstyle - Dividing your army with zealots in grp 1 / ranged at 2 if I saw correctly - Should have retreated and waited a bit with your zealots rushing in (you had high ground so abuse it with your collosi and produce some units in meantime and force him to be the one going into your base you have the advantage on high ground)
3rd game vs - Fast gate-core-robotics-2stargate tech with only a zealot as army. - Might be better cuz of the distance of the map to build your 2 stargates right of his base at the 2nd expansion where its blocked of by rocks. Somewhere around that vicinity so opponent will never think you're going stargates since you have your expansion up he will think you're behind in tech - Opponent also going vr rush how convenient - Charging up by attacking own pylon = smart move but you did attack move which would have been better if you actually focused 1 unit and shift focus the rest of his army - If you're already commited to the vr upgrade speed for them
Overall pretty decent and I'll be watching your streams (and giving my thoughts on your games).
The games I played this morning (Wed Aug 4) were not indicative of the way I normally play. It is funny, because when I start having a bad day, it is horrendous. Like, I went from 53rd or something to 80th, and lost 9 out of 12 games
In any event, supply blocking is something that happens to me alot, that and my lack of efficient macro. I am working on both.
The third game in particular, I went VR BECAUSE I knew that was what he was doing, when he cannoned up. Otherwise I was moving for a normal ground based army. When I finished that game I had 3-0 with 3-0 researching, and the speed upgrade completed.
Overall, I dont have any specific strategy when I go into a game, ever. I just decide what to do on the fly, adjusting based on what my initial probe sees when scouting. I have to scout more, even out my econ/unit buildings/units more, instead of always focusing on one over another. I also have to keep a better eye on mins/gas/supply when micro- and macro-ing because that is where a majority of my issues stem from
Well, if I'm wrong I apologize. If I'm not wrong, then I don't.
EDIT: The fact that you banned multiple people who suggested the same thing from your stream without warning doesn't really help your case at all. Plus, he was known to use an alias that is quite similar to your name. So like I said, maybe I'm wrong. But maybe I'm not.
On August 05 2010 03:02 Warcloud wrote: Well, if I'm wrong I apologize. If I'm not wrong, then I don't.
EDIT: The fact that you banned multiple people who suggested the same thing from your stream without warning doesn't really help your case at all. Plus, he was known to use an alias that is quite similar to your name. So like I said, maybe I'm wrong. But maybe I'm not.
When I am playing SC2, my mods do the banning/timing out, not me. I have had the alias ZergRepellant since 1999 when I was playing Starcraft 1. I have been broadcasting live on Justin.TV since April of 2009, and it is well known that I have never played DotA, suck at HoN, and generally do not like LoL.
People have found evidence that I can not refute, but this is just outrageous. Claiming that I am some pedophile scumbag who screwed the DotA/HoN community is baseless. People have seen my address on the stream - I dont hide it. Does this Hunter_ jackass even live in New England? I mean, Gardner MA is a small town...
Well, I don't have any evidence. I'll leave that to people way smarter than me. If the accusations are truly inaccurate, you'd probably be better off just ignoring people like myself until conclusive evidence is presented.
I don't have any interest in having an innocent person be antagonized, but what I do want is the make sure that guy doesn't go around doing the same shit he did before in newly-developing gaming communities. It's morally wrong and it's bad for e-sports in general.
And Hunter was pretty bad at DotA too, so I wouldn't use that to help your case.
On August 05 2010 03:24 Warcloud wrote: I don't have any interest in having an innocent person be antagonized, but what I do want is the make sure that guy doesn't go around doing the same shit he did before in newly-developing gaming communities. It's morally wrong and it's bad for e-sports in general.
And Hunter was pretty bad at DotA too, so I wouldn't use that to help your case.
being bad at DotA and never having played it are two very different things
I did some quick research about Jeff Hunter when you posted that, and the HunterCrushed stuff I read is really sickening. This guy takes being a jackass to a whole new level. Like I said, there is some history of my own I cannot refute, but being presumed to be this HunteR_ jackass is incomprehensible.
My mods (those in the stream) have been ban/T.O happy recently. This is part of why I massunban every few days. It is unfortunate that silly stuff gets people booted, really.
The Minerva Tournament is not just my tournament, it is mine and Tesla's. Tesla has been involved with ICCup for quite some time, and I am a relative nobody to the community. I can understand the skepticism, especially with me talking about "trying" to get sponsors. However, I will NEVER say we are giving something away without confirmed proof that shows the same.
I desire to see eSports for SC2 grow. I have been waiting for something to pull me away from WoW for almost 5 years, and SC2 is where I am going to be for the long haul, whether Minerva works out for the better or dies a horrible death.
imo, here is where this association is being made; the name Jennifer Snow is remarkably close to one of HunteR_'s aliases, Jennifer Smart, which he used while he posed online as a female modeling agent looking to hire young models with the ultimate goal of obtaining pictures of aspiring models. Central to the Jeff HunteR_ theme, the models were not reimbursed and were used only for the pictures. So the other thing here is that the streamer is obviously "trying" to sound more female so it would lead you to believe it's some little kid trying to pretend hes a chick online, but since Cat's history is in the thread we can be pretty sure Jeff HunteR_ would not go to such lengths to clear his name. But I don't think we need to worry about Jeff child hunter getting too rooted in SC2, as there are far bigger and more popular names engrained in the community with the HDH tournaments and the Day[9] daily and the rapidly-growing community streams and shoutcasts. HoN and DotA communities were not established enough to be able to afford turning away HunteR_, but I think SC2 is
but if this streamer really is hunter, this is pretty hilarious then isn't it
She isn't HunteR, HunteR has been shamed out of the HoN community after being banned on forums and games on all his accounts. There is also a couple people setting up a fairly large civil suit against him for tens of thousands of dollars he's scammed and or claimed to owe people. She's been streaming during the whole HunteR ordeal took place in the HoN community and I am fairly certain he's hiding in some whole in the ground right now, not streaming SC2.
Stream is fine, would like to not be T/O for no reason whatsoever but everyone fucks up.
On August 05 2010 06:16 AioncannonzSC2 wrote: imo, here is where this association is being made; the name Jennifer Snow is remarkably close to one of HunteR_'s aliases, Jennifer Smart, which he used while he posed online as a female modeling agent looking to hire young models with the ultimate goal of obtaining pictures of aspiring models. Central to the Jeff HunteR_ theme, the models were not reimbursed and were used only for the pictures. So the other thing here is that the streamer is obviously "trying" to sound more female so it would lead you to believe it's some little kid trying to pretend hes a chick online, but since Cat's history is in the thread we can be pretty sure Jeff HunteR_ would not go to such lengths to clear his name. But I don't think we need to worry about Jeff child hunter getting too rooted in SC2, as there are far bigger and more popular names engrained in the community with the HDH tournaments and the Day[9] daily and the rapidly-growing community streams and shoutcasts. HoN and DotA communities were not established enough to be able to afford turning away HunteR_, but I think SC2 is
but if this streamer really is hunter, this is pretty hilarious then isn't it
As far as I am concerned, this HunteR_ scumbag deserves everything he got and more. Pedophiles should all be shot to death with bb guns.
As for the SC2 community, my stream, and other far more popular names, I agree. It is unfortunate that the HoN/DotA communities got worked by this jackass, but I think that SC2 is much more established, mainly because of TL and the commentators/shoutcasters you mentioned.
In any event, Jennifer Snow != Jennifer Smart either, and I am far from a model of any kind. =/
On August 05 2010 06:36 Boomervile wrote: She isn't HunteR, HunteR has been shamed out of the HoN community after being banned on forums and games on all his accounts. There is also a couple people setting up a fairly large civil suit against him for tens of thousands of dollars he's scammed and or claimed to owe people. She's been streaming during the whole HunteR ordeal took place in the HoN community and I am fairly certain he's hiding in some whole in the ground right now, not streaming SC2.
Stream is fine, would like to not be T/O for no reason whatsoever but everyone fucks up.
Like I said, my mods are there to keep the peace. Some of them are ban happy when we get hit by 4chan or random trolls, and sometimes misclicks happen. I am trying to get them to be more lenient, but not having changed my rules yet it could be difficult.
So many baseless accusations in this thread. HunteR_ has more or less got his life ruined, apparently he lost his job, his family and he's obviously no longer hte CEO of eSports media (or whatever they were called). Paedophile or not, do you honestly think he's now spending his time streaming SC2 games under yet another alias?
You should learn the definition of "humble" Cat. Every time I watched your feed you do nothing but dog and send tells to the opposing players or random teammates that they are trash, how much they suck ass, etc.. I understand you might not care, but if you are trying to become a quality person around here that wants to be taken seriously, my advice would be to stay "humble" No need to trash people cuz you lose, or trash people cuz they aren't as good as yourself. In all of the cases I have watched, it was YOU who goes out of your way to dog people. Take a long hard look at yourself, and remember what it was like when you started.
I'm by no means calling you out, just offering constructive criticism. I realize you try to organize tourneys and what not and Im just saying, you should change your attitude.
Shabby - I understand what you are saying, and I am trying to stop being so mean to bad players. I was horrible during P1, and I know that there are others that are now (or always will be) bad. Hell, I consider myself bad, which makes things worse when I look at someone else and say they are bad.
Anyway, I am working on it, I know it is an issue for some. Similar to the GG thing that I dont agree with but now do anyway, because it is considered appropriate. The problem is that I am an elitist, which can be a good thing and a bad thing
On August 06 2010 08:45 Catreina wrote: Shabby - I understand what you are saying, and I am trying to stop being so mean to bad players. I was horrible during P1, and I know that there are others that are now (or always will be) bad. Hell, I consider myself bad, which makes things worse when I look at someone else and say they are bad.
Anyway, I am working on it, I know it is an issue for some. Similar to the GG thing that I dont agree with but now do anyway, because it is considered appropriate. The problem is that I am an elitist, which can be a good thing and a bad thing
Hey well if you can at least acknowledge that you are that way then that's fair enough for me . I'm glad you can be civil, I wasn't sure if you were gonna flame me or what. And admitting is half the battle, so if you are working on it, then I commend you.
Well if you look at general skill level you're above the average people catreina Of course you're no pro either (not saying I am or anything ) but I was also horrible in p1 of beta and now atleast above average (I hope :D ). Anyways watching your stream now :d
I wonder why there aren't many protoss streamers even though it is said that there are more protoss players nowadays than Terran :/ You're only 2nd streamer of protoss while I've seen like 20 streams or so which almost all of them are Z/T.
On August 06 2010 17:17 shannn wrote: Well if you look at general skill level you're above the average people catreina Of course you're no pro either (not saying I am or anything ) but I was also horrible in p1 of beta and now atleast above average (I hope :D ). Anyways watching your stream now :d
I wonder why there aren't many protoss streamers even though it is said that there are more protoss players nowadays than Terran :/ You're only 2nd streamer of protoss while I've seen like 20 streams or so which almost all of them are Z/T.
Hmm stream down or something.
I know that there are tons of streams here on TL, and I have seen quite a few Toss players, but you are right, the majority I have seen as well are terran or zerg.
I am actually glad there arent more players streaming toss - if a pro started, I might stop playing just to watch =(
I just want to say I love your taste in music. If you ever wanna play with me lemme know, I like playing 3s / 4s and im not an idiot. Im all gold league, not a diamond beast like you hahah
This thread has quickly derail from about the stream of a person to his personal life/gender and what not. Just watch the damn stream or don't if you don't like it. Cat i don't really think you need to defend your position over and over, it only encouraging them to continue but if that is your way so be it.
Oh and to the person that posted that article wow thats extreme phobia you have there, to need to search and post that.
As far as I am concerned, this HunteR_ scumbag deserves everything he got and more. Pedophiles should all be shot to death with bb guns.
Pretty inconsiderate thing to say for a woman in your position, seeing as they too don't choose to be the way they are.
For the rest good job on streaming and the tourneys
Thanks for the note about the streaming and tournaments! =)
As for the "inconsiderate" comment - pedophilia is not the same kind of "sickness" as what you are referring to. Pedophilia is not something that can be given any kind of excuse, for any reason, ever. I stand by my comment - pedophiles should be shot to death with bb guns.
Simply having a sexual urge or fixation is hardly grounds to be brutally murdered. Acting upon said fixation is entirely a different thing.
The stream is fun. I don't even mind Cat calling her viewers "idiots" for suggesting she do Templar tech. That's one of the reasons I like the channel. I even agree with most of the moderation done by mods. I do kinda mind the mass bannings that happen every loss streak though. You can kinda tell that frustration is being taken out on the viewers.
The love/hate relationship between streamer and viewers is what makes the whole thing worth it. The only improvement I'd like to see made (besides improvement on gameplay, but that's something every streamer wants so it's not worth mentioning specifically for Cat) is a little less banning. It seems a bit off when Cat calls people "shitbags" then bans someone for saying "ur bad at teh gamez lolz"
On August 09 2010 19:00 Catreina wrote: the banning is - in general - aimed at trolls and troll comments
That is also the reason I massunban everyone every day or two
Which will be good for me. I left the stream unbanned and came back banned. Maybe I got caught in some crossfire, who knows. Was there for the Q/A you did this morning, cool to see someone being so open about themself.
great stream. Even if you do a lot of mistakes, it's still a pleasure to see "average" people streaming. I'm so sick about these "serious" gamers... Keep up the good work !
ps: why no admin ban/delete pics and users that post it ? And wtf, people like Warcloud, if you have something to say to Catreina, just pm her... but stop polluting forums with your accusations
Really enjoy the stream. Catreina is very involved with her viewers and frequently chats/talks back and forth between games.
Very lively and fun attitude.
Unfortunately, the trolls make the experience somewhat less than enjoyable, but the mods are very much present and active, and clear out the "cancer" pretty quickly. Thanks for the stream, and keep doing what you are doing.
it's really sad to see this thread full of accusations instead of comments about the stream and stuff. imo you're doing a great job on your stream, one of the things that makes it enjoyable is that you get involved with your audience, so keep up the good work.
I enjoy your stream because you rage a lot and it keeps things interesting. Also, everyone loses to cheese most times, so don't get so frustrated and try to nit pick and call people ghosters & etc... Enjoy the new challenges which help you evolve as a player.
Incredibly poor player that is very bitter when she loses(resorting to calling players cheaters when it's very clear they aren't). Obviously cannot handle negative attention/feedback please don't feed this crap guys.
On August 04 2010 01:02 Catreina wrote: Since when does any of that matter, or even relate to SC2?
Who cares about someones race, gender, sexual orientation, sexual preference, age, weight, height, eye color, hair color, skin complexion, nationality, background, or ANYTHING else for that matter? Its a damn game on a damn stream. Get over yourselves.
How to get banned on the team liquid forums. 1. Post in this thread 2. Wait for abusive admin to ban without any warning despite not disobeying the rules. 3. ???? 4. Profit
On August 20 2010 02:44 nopenopenope2 wrote: How to get banned on the team liquid forums. 1. Post in this thread 2. Wait for abusive admin to ban without any warning despite not disobeying the rules. 3. ???? 4. Profit
You forgot step 1a - shit up the forums with unrelated comments about irrelevant information
On August 20 2010 02:50 Catreina wrote:You forgot step 1a - shit up the forums with unrelated comments about irrelevant information
It was directly related to your stream and this is the discussion for said stream. It was completely related and was in no matter flaming or "trolling" because you seem to love to throw that word around a lot. And what counts as "shitting up the forums" is strictly based on opinion. You know you could probably avoid this drama by simply ignoring it instead of making a huge deal out of it(because if we were trolls you would only be giving us more firewood). Or not taking an honest loss so badly and making a huge deal out of it. For instance banning people causing trouble instead of talking to them.
Actually, I think the video being a personal attack, using irrelevant and incorrect 'evidence' about imaginary 'child abuse' was part of it.
Also, you would think that two bans relatively quickly would make you think twice about your posts.
This thread is for comments about my stream, not my gender identity, my family life, my children, or anything else that is present in the video. Maybe you should re-read the TL 10 Commandments, or better yet, read them to begin with.
On August 20 2010 03:14 Catreina wrote: Actually, I think the video being a personal attack, using irrelevant and incorrect 'evidence' about imaginary 'child abuse' was part of it.
Also, you would think that two bans relatively quickly would make you think twice about your posts.
This thread is for comments about my stream, not my gender identity, my family life, my children, or anything else that is present in the video. Maybe you should re-read the TL 10 Commandments, or better yet, read them to begin with.
The video itself didn't involve anything you just said, the uploaders personal comments are completely different and aren't forced down your throat. The comment was about you and your stream not your personal life not your family not anything else, stop making things up. Also I read the rules and I have not broken them in any way. This is by no means spam and I am by no means disrespectful(in-fact I was being incredibly polite). As for
On August 20 2010 03:14 Catreina wrote: Also, you would think that two bans relatively quickly would make you think twice about your posts.
Fake hotmails, brand new accounts that I don't care about, proxy if I have to. I'm not going to stop and enjoy the ban just because I disagree. Three options at this point: 1. Completely ignore the bad publicity. 2. Continue a huge flame war that nobody will win. 3. Continue it in PM's and save yourself a bit of dignity and bad publicity.
On August 20 2010 03:20 Nopenopenope3 wrote: The video itself didn't involve anything you just said, the uploaders personal comments are completely different and aren't forced down your throat. The comment was about you and your stream not your personal life not your family not anything else, stop making things up. Also I read the rules and I have not broken them in any way. This is by no means spam and I am by no means disrespectful(in-fact I was being incredibly polite).
Three options at this point: 1. Completely ignore the bad publicity. 2. Continue a huge flame war that nobody will win. 3. Continue it in PM's and save yourself a bit of dignity and bad publicity.
I generally do not watch the videos made by trolls, I did not "make things up".
Your options are interesting: 1. Publicity is publicity, good or bad, it is still publicity. 2. There is no flame war here, and there will be none. People like you make irrelevant posts, and you get banned. I get flamed and trolled all day in my stream, I think I can deal with it. 3. Continue what in PMs, and save myself a bit of what dignity? Its the internet, its a stream of a game.
Who cares what people think? If I cared, I would still be denying the information about me is true. I would not have come out to the entire SC2 community on my stream for fear of the trolling that has exploded because I have done so.
Now, back on topic - what did you think of my failmode run yesterday, where I won what, 2 out of 12 1v1 games?
On August 20 2010 03:34 Catreina wrote:I generally do not watch the videos made by trolls, I did not "make things up".
Here we go again with the ad hominem, completely ignore my argument and call us trolls anyways. Let me repeat myself for the third time, I am not trolling, flaming or anything of the sort. Along with this I never said anything you mentioned there so yes you did simply make things up. And don't talk to me as if I am a group of people which is what you seem to be doing as I am not.
On August 20 2010 03:34 Catreina wrote:Who cares what people think? If I cared, I would still be denying the information about me is true. I would not have come out to the entire SC2 community on my stream for fear of the trolling that has exploded because I have done so.
If you really didn't care what people thought you wouldn't have argued with youtubers for almost an hour yesterday on your stream. We wouldn't even be arguing now if you didn't care. Let me explain to you how a debate(argument) works: A side presents an argument and reasoning to support it. The other side positive or negative will provide their own logic and reasoning to refute the other sides. You rarely refute anything I present you with and just resort to the ad hominem which makes me think you are simply avoiding it.(though in your defense the reply before this one wasn't ad hominem)
On August 20 2010 03:34 Catreina wrote: Now, back on topic - what did you think of my failmode run yesterday, where I won what, 2 out of 12 1v1 games?
We are still on topic this is still about you and the stream.
On August 20 2010 04:18 Nopenopenope3 wrote: Here we go again with the ad hominem, completely ignore my argument and call us trolls anyways
I didn't call YOU a troll, I said very specifically the "videos made by trolls". Guilty conscience much?
If you really didn't care what people thought you wouldn't have argued with youtubers for almost an hour yesterday on your stream. We wouldn't even be arguing now if you didn't care.
Publicity is publicity - I didn't argue with anyone, I was bumping the video a bit to get more exposure. People watch my stream for a variety of reasons, whether it is me raging, me losing, me winning, or the chat. I personally don't care what you think or what anyone else thinks. I am not the one who asked for or requested that the posters of the images and links in this thread get banned, I didn't care that they were here. Fact is the more people talk about my stream, the more popular it becomes. Where that popularity comes from - 'lol look at this horrible player' or 'lol this bitch is good' - doesn't matter a shit to me.
On August 20 2010 03:34 Catreina wrote: Now, back on topic - what did you think of my failmode run yesterday, where I won what, 2 out of 12 1v1 games?
We are still on topic this is still about you and the stream.[/QUOTE]
Way to dodge the question and keep the thread derailed.
Finally, back a little to your post:
Let me explain to you how a debate(argument) works: A side presents an argument and reasoning to support it. The other side positive or negative will provide their own logic and reasoning to refute the other sides. You rarely refute anything I present you with and just resort to the ad hominem which makes me think you are simply avoiding it.(though in your defense the reply before this one wasn't ad hominem)
I didn't realize that MY stream and chat was a place for YOU to debate anything. This isn't a fucking democracy. There is no freedom of anything in the stream, on these forums, on my website, or anywhere else on the internet for that matter. Your "logic and reasoning" is flawed, because it is taken out of context. My "rebuttals" of your flawed logic and reasoning is going to seem baseless to you because you fail to realize that none of it matters.
You claim we would not be "arguing" now if I didn't care. You are, again, misinformed about what is happening here. You dodge bans because you do not agree with the reasons for the ban on a site that you break the rules on. You then state that you will continue to dodge bans because you do not agree. What I care about is people staying on topic and contributing to the thread, which is about my stream. MY stream.
On August 19 2010 08:00 nopenopenope wrote: Incredibly poor player that is very bitter when she loses(resorting to calling players cheaters when it's very clear they aren't). Obviously cannot handle negative attention/feedback please don't feed this crap guys.
You call me an "incredibly poor player" - obviously wrong considering I have stayed in diamond since July 29, hovering around the 30-60 mark.
You say I am "very bitter" when I lose - who isn't, when they lose to stupid shit? I rage because I lose, not because the other player won.
You say I "obviously cannot handle negative attention" - funny that. There once was a rumor that I was transgender... with a shitload of negative connotations. Negative attention I believe, that I confirmed and continue to confirm now, giving me even more negative attention.
Finally, you also state that I cannot handle negative feedback. I AM A BAD PLAYER. I have said that since I started playing SC2. People think I say it to prompt the "no you aren't" comments, but ffs, watch my stream, I am really not all that great. Negative feedback is most prevalent from myself.
As a point of fact - who do YOU know that is not upset even a little when they lose? I do knot know ANYONE who is HAPPY when they lose games.
On August 20 2010 04:37 Catreina wrote: I didn't call YOU a troll, I said very specifically the "videos made by trolls". Guilty conscience much?
You use the word so much it's hard to tell.
On August 20 2010 04:37 Catreina wrote:Publicity is publicity - I didn't argue with anyone, I was bumping the video a bit to get more exposure.
You and everyone here knows that is a horrible excuse, not only were you pissed off but you were also getting into arguments in the comments section. Also I highly doubt you didn't know commenting on a video doesn't "bump" it. The video would have gotten tons of exposure even if you had ignored it.
On August 20 2010 04:37 Catreina wrote:Way to dodge the question and keep the thread derailed.
What question? I'm pretty sure you don't value my thoughts on your losing streak.
On August 20 2010 04:37 Catreina wrote:My "rebuttals" of your flawed logic and reasoning is going to seem baseless to you because you fail to realize that none of it matters
More ad hominems, Not only is this a personal insult it's also a huge informal fallacy and unrealistic. Stop making filler.
On August 20 2010 04:37 Catreina wrote:You dodge bans because you do not agree with the reasons for the ban on a site that you break the rules on. You then state that you will continue to dodge bans because you do not agree. What I care about is people staying on topic and contributing to the thread, which is about my stream. MY stream.
At this point you are just mining for quotes. Actually the reason I dodged them is because I am not breaking any of the posted rules I looked at them before posting and I haven't broken them yet beyond the second post(which was because I was banned without warning and without reason.) If you are going to say I'm breaking the rules at least provide some evidence.
On August 20 2010 04:37 Catreina wrote: You call me an "incredibly poor player" - obviously wrong considering I have stayed in diamond since July 29, hovering around the 30-60 mark.
Playing for a long time does not make you a good player, the game has just launched and there is tons of new players to create filler(which can allow a bad player to hold diamond).
On August 20 2010 04:37 Catreina wrote: You say I am "very bitter" when I lose - who isn't, when they lose to stupid shit? I rage because I lose, not because the other player won.
I lose to cheese every now and then but I don't curse them out call them cheaters and send them hateful pms and on top of all that challenge them again. in-fact in the video you can see where you are trying to rationalize the loss by saying he didn't see your probe(He did).
On August 20 2010 04:37 Catreina wrote: Finally, you also state that I cannot handle negative feedback. I AM A BAD PLAYER. I have said that since I started playing SC2. People think I say it to prompt the "no you aren't" comments, but ffs, watch my stream, I am really not all that great. Negative feedback is most prevalent from myself.
Simply saying you are a bad player doesn't mean you can handle it, you can try and rationalize this all you want but it doesn't mean you are handling it correctly. I don't consider flinging insults like an ape handling the attention well. You can say "well this is to get more attention", that isn't a good excuse bad attention isn't good it will just cause you more pain in the long run as it starts to pile up.
On August 20 2010 04:37 Catreina wrote: As a point of fact - who do YOU know that is not upset even a little when they lose? I do knot know ANYONE who is HAPPY when they lose games.
It's okay to be a little upset about a loss nobody likes to lose. However there is a fine line between a little upset and flat out raging. Not only did you keep challenging them but you also insulted them while doing so, why?
The "I do this for publicity" argument is weak and old, stop lying to yourself and walk it off because it is clear that you DO care.
On August 20 2010 04:37 Catreina wrote:My "rebuttals" of your flawed logic and reasoning is going to seem baseless to you because you fail to realize that none of it matters
More ad hominems, Not only is this a personal insult it's also a huge informal fallacy and unrealistic. Stop making filler.
This is an ad hominem? REALLY? You should re-investigate what ad hominem attacks are, this is not one. You will likely claim this response is also ad-hominem, because that seems to be your "generic" response now.
On August 20 2010 04:58 Nopenopenope3 wrote: At this point you are just mining for quotes. Actually the reason I dodged them is because I am not breaking any of the posted rules I looked at them before posting and I haven't broken them yet beyond the second post(which was because I was banned without warning and without reason.) If you are going to say I'm breaking the rules at least provide some evidence.
I do not need to say you are or are not breaking rules - that is not my job. If you were banned, then the admins had reason for it. Take it up with them.
On August 20 2010 04:58 Nopenopenope3 wrote: Playing for a long time does not make you a good player, the game has just launched and there is tons of new players to create filler(which can allow a bad player to hold diamond).
This must explain why better players are stuck in platinum too, right? Because it is a new game? Why havent I been moved down to plat yet? why do I have a > 50% win ratio? I suppose you saying that "filler" is why I am in diamond is "evidence" of me being bad, yes?
On August 20 2010 04:58 Nopenopenope3 wrote: I lose to cheese every now and then but I don't curse them out call them cheaters and send them hateful pms and on top of all that challenge them again. in-fact in the video you can see where you are trying to rationalize the loss by saying he didn't see your probe(He did).
I NEVER said he didnt see my probe. I DID say he never scouted, and knew nothing of where I was in any way - even the single stalker he saw retreating gave no direct indication of WHERE my base was. Secondly, I didnt "challenge" him in the first place. He challenged me. AND he asked for the second game. Point of fact - he was something like 15-19 in Bronze... me saying he is a bad player IS TRUTH.
On August 20 2010 04:58 Nopenopenope3 wrote: Simply saying you are a bad player doesn't mean you can handle it, you can try and rationalize this all you want but it doesn't mean you are handling it correctly. I don't consider flinging insults like an ape handling the attention well. You can say "well this is to get more attention", that isn't a good excuse bad attention isn't good it will just cause you more pain in the long run as it starts to pile up.
That is your opinion.
On August 20 2010 04:58 Nopenopenope3 wrote: It's okay to be a little upset about a loss nobody likes to lose. However there is a fine line between a little upset and flat out raging. Not only did you keep challenging them but you also insulted them while doing so, why?
The "I do this for publicity" argument is weak and old, stop lying to yourself and walk it off because it is clear that you DO care.
It is clear that YOU THINK I care. when I am raging on stream, and then laughing my ass off about the entire thing (like I am now about your attempts to point out the "fact" that I must care).
Does my raging make you mad? Does it bring out the troll in you? Does it make you laugh? Does it give you entertainment?
On August 20 2010 05:19 Catreina wrote:This is an ad hominem? REALLY? You should re-investigate what ad hominem attacks are, this is not one. You will likely claim this response is also ad-hominem, because that seems to be your "generic" response now.
On August 20 2010 05:19 Catreina wrote:This must explain why better players are stuck in platinum too, right? Because it is a new game? Why havent I been moved down to plat yet? why do I have a > 50% win ratio? I suppose you saying that "filler" is why I am in diamond is "evidence" of me being bad, yes?
You seem to have completely misunderstood what I said, that or you are just dense. There are enough bad/new players who get placed into diamond which allow bad players to stay in it, thus the 50% win ratio. In one or two years our diamond league players will be plat or silver and our plat will be silver or bronze. The game is young and people are still learning.
On August 20 2010 05:19 Catreina wrote: I NEVER said he didnt see my probe. I DID say he never scouted, and knew nothing of where I was in any way - even the single stalker he saw retreating gave no direct indication of WHERE my base was. Secondly, I didnt "challenge" him in the first place. He challenged me. AND he asked for the second game. Point of fact - he was something like 15-19 in Bronze... me saying he is a bad player IS TRUTH.
Just seeing probe or stalker location can be enough to guess where their base is, you should know this. Why would you retreat a stalker away from your base?
On August 20 2010 05:19 Catreina wrote: It is clear that YOU THINK I care. when I am raging on stream, and then laughing my ass off about the entire thing (like I am now about your attempts to point out the "fact" that I must care).
That is you trying to rationalize the whole thing, continue lying to yourself no skin off my bones. Restating the same thing over and over again is getting old and reading your posts is mind numbing, i'm done.
From that link: "insulting or belittling one's opponent in order to invalidate their argument"
The quote you said was ad hominem was neither insulting nor belittling you. It was stating that your logic is flawed, because you fail to see that none of what was being talked about matters. - Retake your elementary school language comprehension courses.
You seem to have completely misunderstood what I said, that or you are just dense. There are enough bad/new players who get placed into diamond which allow bad players to stay in it, thus the 50% win ratio. In one or two years our diamond league players will be plat or silver and our plat will be silver or bronze. The game is young and people are still learning.
90% or so of all diamond players are 50-60% win ratio. I suggest you get some more facts to try and dispute that I am not actually good, or that I should be lower than diamond. One or two years from now is not now, and has no bearing (real or imagined) on what is -right now-
Just seeing probe or stalker location can be enough to guess where their base is, you should know this. Why would you retreat a stalker away from your base?
Sure, just seeing a probe -can- be enough. However, seeing a probe leaving a base at the same time as your probe is heading to that base? Dont think so. Seeing a stalker retreat in a generic direction that was not directly to a base? Dont think so.
As for retreating a stalker away from your base - proxy pylons? Reinforcements? MISDIRECTION?
That is you trying to rationalize the whole thing, continue lying to yourself no skin off my bones. Restating the same thing over and over again is getting old and reading your posts is mind numbing, i'm done.
So you can't win an argument with false claims and being called out on your erroneous statements, so you resort to a fallacy of your own (I cannot remember the actual type) to close your argument. How quaint. I hope you are done, because derailing the thread has gone on for far too long.
I just dropped by to say that I find the blind accusations of cheating / ghosting pretty offensive. But the video was still pretty funny anyway, so thanks for linking it!
Hi, just dropping by after watching http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BqQlvHhv7DE I'm a former Inter from various RTS games and I can't believe how a serious clan provides shelter to a player like Catreina. I know and heard a lot of drama in the scene (even in my Clan), but this was so ridiculous we laughed tears. Please, tell me you keep her in your clan as a clown and mascot and not because she is a girl. I can hardly image anyone who wants to play serious with a bad sport like her.
I am in a clan now? This is news to me. I suppose being a member of various forums makes me a member of their gaming clans and guilds. So that means I am a member of Vodka, Ensidia, Uprising, Team Liquid, and countless other clans and guilds because I post on their forums.
On August 21 2010 03:10 Vitacia wrote: So, basicly, I just don't understand how someone like you is being tolerated :/
Being tolerated by whom, you? No one is being forced to watch my stream or read my thread or respond to my posts. People watch because of many reasons, one of which is my very often over-the-top rage. Are these people "tolerating" my "episodes?"
On August 21 2010 03:10 Vitacia wrote: So, basicly, I just don't understand how someone like you is being tolerated :/
Being tolerated by whom, you? No one is being forced to watch my stream or read my thread or respond to my posts. People watch because of many reasons, one of which is my very often over-the-top rage. Are these people "tolerating" my "episodes?"
you rage at people for glhf'ing at the start of the game. people watch you because you're a pathetic joke(see clown). and most people arent watching you because of your "over the top rage" lol it's because you're a chick. don't kid yourself, your bm isn't funny and you arent a good player so what else do you have? your genitals making your voice high
that video is amazing, and the game on Kulas Ravine you were bringing your stalkers back to your base when the pylon was killed, he could have guessed from where it was retreating to where your base was
Yeah that video pretty much sums up the viewing experience. Calling people f***ing morons for offering suggestions, calling players bad despite having beat her (which would make you worse right?), rage, etc. On a sidenote, the music is tolerable.
Just finished watching her streams, and yeah it's getting ridiculous. It seems like when she wins a game, it's because she's good, but when she loses it's because the other player exploited the game or got lucky, and has nothing to do with the other players skill. I for one will stop watching her stream from now on, because I just can't stand to watch someone belittle another player for no reason. I'm sure she could care less if I watch, but I'm sure a lot of other viewers feel the same way.
i get tired of it but i also watch her to see her rage out, cause she does not need to be in diamond. she is a plat player. also like to troll, is really funny to do only to her.
On September 06 2010 18:07 Simplevintagex wrote: I watched the stream for literally 2 minutes before I closed that shit and vowed to never open it again.
The entire two minutes of time I did watch was nothing but adolescent nerd rage directed at players who were playing better than him.
It's like Idra, but without the skill to back it up. How unfortunately depressing!
Edit: Changed her to him for accuracy.
2 minutes is nothing to judge on, but c'est la vie. Your not watching is no great loss to me.
And your "accuracy" is flawed - license says Female... you should probably stop trying to troll, because you are as bad as a bronze scrub in SC2.
On a web site dedicated to starcraft, i was looking for some good streams to watch in the background while I work. I click on this one because it had a lot of comments aaaaaaaand... its bejeweled. And a lot of WoW stuff too. Why is this stream on teamliquid?
On October 15 2010 22:46 neoenigma wrote: On a web site dedicated to starcraft, i was looking for some good streams to watch in the background while I work. I click on this one because it had a lot of comments aaaaaaaand... its bejeweled. And a lot of WoW stuff too. Why is this stream on teamliquid?
I might get banned for saying this but:
1.Her stream is listed as "Misc" so streams which feature other games beside Starcraft seem to be viable
2. The fact that she's a girl might have a certain effect on tl's mostly male community
Edit: I read the thread
On September 18 2010 04:32 Catreina wrote: you should probably stop trying to troll, because you are as bad as a bronze scrub in SC2.
I like how you discriminate and look down on a large part of the SC2 player base, but expect to be respected for who you are in return. Good job *double thumps up*
Basic principle here: I'll do right by you if you do right by me, I'll be good to you if you are good to me. How do you expect people to sympathize with you and your ways when you show them such demeaning behavior? I just don't get this kind of logic, sorry.
People who are emphatic and do have a lot of friends/followers/sympathizers don't have to resort to attacking people verbally as a defensive move.
I know you can auto-cast ... actually, I do autocast them, I just spam the interceptors first then turn it on. Habit I guess - I like spending the mins to get the interceptors building (and queued) automatically.
As for rally points, no shit dick tracy. You would think that my rallying different buildings would clue you in to the fact that I know rally points exist. You blind yo?
wow i really don't like her/him, she cannot take any criticism and proceeds to call everyone she plays and loses to bad (even though they beat her quite convincingly), and then rages in the chat. I would not recommend this stream in the slightest
On November 26 2010 02:24 Tekkerz wrote: wow i really don't like her/him, she cannot take any criticism and proceeds to call everyone she plays and loses to bad (even though they beat her quite convincingly), and then rages in the chat. I would not recommend this stream in the slightest
On November 26 2010 02:24 Tekkerz wrote: wow i really don't like her/him, she cannot take any criticism and proceeds to call everyone she plays and loses to bad (even though they beat her quite convincingly), and then rages in the chat. I would not recommend this stream in the slightest
On November 26 2010 02:24 Tekkerz wrote: wow i really don't like her/him, she cannot take any criticism and proceeds to call everyone she plays and loses to bad (even though they beat her quite convincingly), and then rages in the chat. I would not recommend this stream in the slightest
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that's why the stream is so good though
This.
It's funny to watch her make a fool of herself.
Double this. And apparently everyone that says anything that isn't glad handing her is a troll and must be banned immediately! Good stream if you're look to get some laughs.
On November 14 2010 22:47 Catreina wrote: I know you can auto-cast ... actually, I do autocast them, I just spam the interceptors first then turn it on. Habit I guess - I like spending the mins to get the interceptors building (and queued) automatically.
As for rally points, no shit dick tracy. You would think that my rallying different buildings would clue you in to the fact that I know rally points exist. You blind yo?
On December 05 2010 15:40 grieve wrote: Why is this stream still listed? Streamer never actually plays SC2, mainly League of Legends and World of Warcraft. Worthless.
Really? So taking a short break from SC2 (it has only been a week) means that I never play SC2? You have amazing deductive reasoning skills grieve!
So why is it that you cant take constructive criticism? It seems like everyone is having the same problem with your stream. Does inflow gaming know how you treat your viewers? I am sure they would not want someone miss representing them.
Back to a post I put up a while back on this thread, yes, Cowbell is that thing you bang on that makes a cool sound (a percussive, I think your right). Hitting it makes everything cooler, that is all.
On January 19 2011 07:26 Skamtet wrote: Out of curiousity - why do you have your stream on TeamLiquid (Starcraft forum) when you only play World of Warcraft or League of Legends?
Because nobody here plays World of Warcraft or League of Legends, right?
On January 19 2011 07:26 Skamtet wrote: Out of curiousity - why do you have your stream on TeamLiquid (Starcraft forum) when you only play World of Warcraft or League of Legends?
Because nobody here plays World of Warcraft or League of Legends, right?
On January 19 2011 07:26 Skamtet wrote: Out of curiousity - why do you have your stream on TeamLiquid (Starcraft forum) when you only play World of Warcraft or League of Legends?
Because nobody here plays World of Warcraft or League of Legends, right?
Thought Team Liquid's main focus is Starcraft. Maybe I'm wrong since you are linking three (lol) threads proving the opposite.
Just because the main focus is Starcraft doesn't mean that there aren't people here that play other games, that was my point. I linked you the largest threads, but if you use search you'll see that there are more. There're even forum subsections devoted to WoW and LoL.
I do not only play LoL or WoW - I play LotRO, Eve, Starcraft 2, even old school games like PS2 and old PC games.
Also, as d(O.o)a stated, there are entire subjected to other games. Please stop trying to be all in my face about not streaming SC2 because you claim I "do not play" it. I have and will continue to play any game I feel like at the time I feel like playing it. There are many more than 3 streams that do more than play SC2.
Also, TL's -MAIN- focus is SC/SC2. That does not preclude it from being involved (and streaming) other games. Fuck, TL has a friggin WoW progression guild that is doing quite well.... considering TL is all SC all the time, amirite?
On January 28 2011 07:47 Catreina wrote: I do not only play LoL or WoW - I play LotRO, Eve, Starcraft 2, even old school games like PS2 and old PC games.
Also, as d(O.o)a stated, there are entire subjected to other games. Please stop trying to be all in my face about not streaming SC2 because you claim I "do not play" it. I have and will continue to play any game I feel like at the time I feel like playing it. There are many more than 3 streams that do more than play SC2.
Also, TL's -MAIN- focus is SC/SC2. That does not preclude it from being involved (and streaming) other games. Fuck, TL has a friggin WoW progression guild that is doing quite well.... considering TL is all SC all the time, amirite?
I have it on the JTV page and my website (also linked on the JTV page), but for people who just want the M3U file for AH.fm directly, you can get it from AH.fm or from my website:
On March 18 2011 17:47 HyperLimen wrote: zzz... real boring stream and should be removed from teamliquid since she advertises herself as a diamond player but plays like hellen keller.
the only form of entertainment came when she raged on her chat viewers after completely failing a PvT and went on a ban spree
Then don't watch it if you find it boring? Theres always viewers on the stream so I'm pretty sure that people are entertained, be it by her BM or gameplay.
hi catreina ive been following your stream for about a week now and i am quite enjoying the various games you play especially LoL im actually learning from your stream about builds. keep it up!
On July 10 2011 23:10 Chill wrote: I don't play LoL, but I was watching today and you sounded like you were pretty angry at everything. Really didn't like it.
I rage when I get frustrated. It has toned down a ton since the initial comments on the stream page here, a ton.
You probably caught me in the middle of a major losing streak - though I havent raged today really.... so if it was today I dont know what you mean.
That said, I banned someone for bitching about me playing LoL instead of SC2 in the stream.... *shrug*
Watched about 3 games today. If theres a way to watch replays for LoL that would be awesome. As it stands, noticed you going for creep kills when team fights starting quite often. Fun to watch though. ggs