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Makro
France16890 Posts
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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Netherlands30548 Posts
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aseq
Netherlands3983 Posts
On June 06 2016 12:34 Rebs wrote: You are right that its a bit inflated,. But how do you make it smaller than that in the knockouts? I agree with someone up there that the 16 team Euro was way more intense and a much stronger tournament to watch than the WC, but generally the overall strength of Europe means that the inflated format isnt to bad either. Maybe 4 groups of 5, only 2 making it out of each group? Group phase = best phase anyway, and I dont like some of the 3rd place advancing (being compared to each other while playing completely different opponents). It would mean you lose 4 teams, but consider those being hungary, albania, northern ireland and 1 other and not many people would mind. | ||
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sharkie
Austria18481 Posts
On June 06 2016 12:34 Rebs wrote: You are right that its a bit inflated,. But how do you make it smaller than that in the knockouts? I agree with someone up there that the 16 team Euro was way more intense and a much stronger tournament to watch than the WC, but generally the overall strength of Europe means that the inflated format isnt to bad either. Hmmm if it were me, I'd only let the group winners decide to the knockout stage. Then you have the 8 best teams remaining. Would make group stage cutthroat! | ||
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Rebs
Pakistan10726 Posts
On June 07 2016 01:35 sharkie wrote: Hmmm if it were me, I'd only let the group winners decide to the knockout stage. Then you have the 8 best teams remaining. Would make group stage cutthroat! Yeah straight to quarters is what I was thinking with 6 grp winners and 2 best place second. So even if you cant win the grp coming second and coming second well would also relate to teams not giving up and/or trying harder in grp stages. What probably mean more open games. | ||
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Greg_J
China4409 Posts
You have to have two group stages really or there's a risk that your team can do well in the qualifying go straight to the last 16 lose their first game and be out of the tournment having played only one game. Having a second group stage starting at Ro16 is better and gives added insentive to win your qualifying group so you don't have to play in the first group stage and play 3 extra games. The new European qualifying has made the FIFA rankings even more of a joke than they already where. Austria are ranked 10th in the world by winning a group with Moldova, Liechtenstein, Montenegro, Sweden and Russia in it. I'm pretty sure Japan, Australia maybe even Korea would win that group and they are ranked outside the top 50. Same goes for England in 11th and our crazy easy group. Don't get me wrong there's clearly still a huge gulf between the level of football in Europe in Asia. Spain made Korea's national team look like little boys just the other day. But it doesn't seem right that teams like England and Austria should shoot up the rankings just by beating a few terrible teams. | ||
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Croatia7457 Posts
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Greg_J
China4409 Posts
My point is probablly made better with Englands group to be honest, we really did play terrible teams except Switerland and that makes us 11th in the World? Without even playing anyone good? OK. | ||
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haitike
Spain2716 Posts
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Laurens
Belgium4548 Posts
On June 07 2016 21:33 Greg_J wrote: I can only name one Swedish player, but perhaps that speaks to my ignorance more than their ability. Russia can't be considered anything other than terrible untill they fire Fabio Capello and get a football manager in instead. My point is probablly made better with Englands group to be honest, we really did play terrible teams except Switerland and that makes us 11th in the World? Without even playing anyone good? OK. Can you name a qualifier group with more than 2 "good" teams, in your opinion? | ||
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Greg_J
China4409 Posts
On June 07 2016 21:56 Laurens wrote: Can you name a qualifier group with more than 2 "good" teams, in your opinion? That is excatly my point. All the European teams have had really easy qualifying beating little teams and the | ||
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BeaTeR
Kazakhstan4130 Posts
btw, talksport doing it's predictor league? does anyone want to compete? | ||
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rotta
5594 Posts
On June 07 2016 23:38 BeaTeR wrote: no liquibet for euro? btw, talksport doing it's predictor league? does anyone want to compete? I was wondering about this yesterday, count me in! | ||
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sharkie
Austria18481 Posts
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
On June 07 2016 21:40 haitike wrote: Capello is still in Russia, lol? Capello got sacked with Russia not looking like qualifying, a Russian came in and managed to somehow beat Sweden in controversial circumstances and qualified in 2nd. Oh the guy in charge is CSKA Moscow manager, he does both jobs at the same time. | ||
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HolydaKing
21254 Posts
On June 08 2016 05:57 sharkie wrote: huge blow to Germany's defense, Rüdinger out and gone Really? A huge blow? Many were surprised he even got nominated. I don't know him though, so I have no opinion. | ||
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haitike
Spain2716 Posts
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Greg_J
China4409 Posts
On June 08 2016 06:17 Pandemona wrote: Capello got sacked with Russia not looking like qualifying, a Russian came in and managed to somehow beat Sweden in controversial circumstances and qualified in 2nd. Oh the guy in charge is CSKA Moscow manager, he does both jobs at the same time. I didn't actually know this (obviously). Thanks for enlightening me. edit: Also that means Russia might not be terrible any more. | ||
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Laurens
Belgium4548 Posts
On June 07 2016 23:08 Greg_J wrote: That is excatly my point. All the European teams have had really easy qualifying beating little teams and the Here is the FIFA ranking right after WC 2014: bleacherreport.com You will notice that most EU teams have LOST points since then, despite the "really easy qualifiers". Spain and Portugal gained a handful of points. Austria gained a lot. Germany and The Netherlands lost 400-550. Doesn't look like the EC qualifiers give EU teams an advantage in the FIFA rankings. Not that anyone cares about the FIFA ranking. | ||
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Harris1st
Germany6972 Posts
On June 08 2016 06:18 HolydaKing wrote: Really? A huge blow? Many were surprised he even got nominated. I don't know him though, so I have no opinion. Jonathan Tah is nominated to replace him. I'm fine with that. Pretty much equally skilled but a little less experienced IMO | ||
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