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[X]Ken_D
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
United States4650 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-19 21:35:08
June 19 2012 21:34 GMT
#221
Very unfortunate for Ukraine. They played very beautiful today and that uncalled goal was a heart breaker.

Not calling offside and goals are both bad, but goals should always have priority. Offsides, sometimes it can be ignored by human mistake. Goals definately not!
[X]Domain - I just do the website. Nothing more.
sinii
Profile Joined August 2010
England989 Posts
June 19 2012 21:37 GMT
#222
On June 20 2012 06:34 [X]Ken_D wrote:
Very unfortunate for Ukraine. They played very beautiful today and that uncalled goal was a heart breaker.

Not calling offside and goals are both bad, but goals should always have priority. Offsides, sometimes it can be ignored by human mistake. Goals definately not!


That makes absolutely no sense at all lol.
sinii
Profile Joined August 2010
England989 Posts
June 19 2012 21:38 GMT
#223
On June 20 2012 06:31 Maenander wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2012 05:58 sinii wrote:
England are just the team people love to hate, I'm pretty used to people slagging off any success England gets it's incredibly rare you see anyone outside of the UK supporting the UK in any of these threads and people will find any reason to berate an England win.

Believe what you will, but I think England's performances just weren't particularly impressive or exciting to the neutral observer. Some nice goals against Sweden and that's about it.


It's not just this tournament its been a common theme for years, England battles on while everyone posts on the internet about how much they hate England. Not that I care it's just interesting that we garner so much hate in the world. :p
RvB
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands6284 Posts
June 19 2012 21:38 GMT
#224
On June 20 2012 06:02 sharkie wrote:
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On June 20 2012 06:00 gTank wrote:
We should complain if the ref on the goal line, who is looking straight at the ball, can't see that it was clearly over the line.
And we should blame the uefa/fifa for holding improvement back.
The worst thing: the ref is going to get all the blame while the system is the problem.


I have yet to hear a referee say "we need goal line technology"

Don't try to make referee look like the victims here, they enjoy their total power and are one of the reasons technology is still being blocked.


I'm sure they love the media attacking them with any mistake they make...
Sated
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
England4983 Posts
June 19 2012 21:45 GMT
#225
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chalice
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1945 Posts
June 19 2012 21:47 GMT
#226
i'm not an expert on the concept of karma, can someone explain to me why it would make sense for the ukraine to be karmically punished for a disallowed goal between germany and england in 2010?
sinii
Profile Joined August 2010
England989 Posts
June 19 2012 21:50 GMT
#227
On June 20 2012 06:47 chalice wrote:
i'm not an expert on the concept of karma, can someone explain to me why it would make sense for the ukraine to be karmically punished for a disallowed goal between germany and england in 2010?


Karma doesn't make sense, that's why 'Karma's a bitch'.
Sub40APM
Profile Joined August 2010
6336 Posts
June 19 2012 21:56 GMT
#228
classic football. instead of setting up goal line camera technology like they have had in hockey for 20 years they rely on blind men to make sure they can sell more t shirts of team England around the world.
AzureHath
Profile Joined October 2011
Bulgaria154 Posts
June 19 2012 22:00 GMT
#229
Rooney fighting!
BW: iloveoov/JulyZerg/BoxeR/Midas/NaDa/Bisu[Shield] | SC2: IdrA/HuK/Grubby/WhiteRa/DIMAGA/JulyZerg/DongRaeGu
Klive5ive
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United Kingdom6056 Posts
June 19 2012 22:02 GMT
#230
What the hell is the point in that referee?
Now we have 5 idiots (with the 4th official) who make the wrong decisions instead of 3!
Football is years behind other sports in management. Bunch of corrupt wankers running every association.

Pretty average play from England but that's all you need to win these tournaments (ask Greece).
Probably a draw would've been a fairer result but that wouldn't have changed the group anyway.
Italy vs England.... it's gonna be a war.
Don't hate the player - Hate the game
JoelB
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany311 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-20 00:40:11
June 19 2012 23:00 GMT
#231
On June 20 2012 07:02 Klive5ive wrote:
What the hell is the point in that referee?
Now we have 5 idiots (with the 4th official) who make the wrong decisions instead of 3!
Football is years behind other sports in management. Bunch of corrupt wankers running every association.

Pretty average play from England but that's all you need to win these tournaments (ask Greece).
Probably a draw would've been a fairer result but that wouldn't have changed the group anyway.
Italy vs England.... it's gonna be a war.


Yeah ... will go into history as "The Great War of the Walls". Wizards should make a card like this:

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sc4k
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United Kingdom5454 Posts
June 19 2012 23:16 GMT
#232
Wait what's the problem if a movement that was offside resulted in a goal that was disallowed?
elagrion
Profile Joined April 2010
Ukraine422 Posts
June 19 2012 23:24 GMT
#233
On June 20 2012 05:58 sinii wrote:
England are just the team people love to hate, I'm pretty used to people slagging off any success England gets it's incredibly rare you see anyone outside of the UK supporting the UK in any of these threads and people will find any reason to berate an England win.


Wat? I am supporting any good English football club, except Chelsea, over any other team, except AC Milan and, obviously, Ukrainian teams.

Also, in this euro, if England was in any other group I would cheer for them.
But in group D its Ukraine (my country) and Sweden (huge amount of Swedish guys in Kyiv, and all of them are so nice, they just won me over ).

AND 1-1! We played good.
Everything is a remix.
DragoonTT
Profile Joined April 2012
3398 Posts
June 19 2012 23:25 GMT
#234
On June 20 2012 08:16 sc4k wrote:
Wait what's the problem if a movement that was offside resulted in a goal that was disallowed?

It gives people a reason to argue - about football, about referees, about the unfairness of life. It provides an excuse for dropping out of the tournament. And it makes for great headlines for the media.
elagrion
Profile Joined April 2010
Ukraine422 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-19 23:29:13
June 19 2012 23:27 GMT
#235
Black Humor:

If you kill a referee, the murder will be called off.

Edit: I know I am biased. I can't download reply to see if there was an offside.
Everything is a remix.
blapsd
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
England121 Posts
June 19 2012 23:36 GMT
#236
On June 20 2012 08:24 elagrion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2012 05:58 sinii wrote:
England are just the team people love to hate, I'm pretty used to people slagging off any success England gets it's incredibly rare you see anyone outside of the UK supporting the UK in any of these threads and people will find any reason to berate an England win.


Wat? I am supporting any good English football club, except Chelsea, over any other team, except AC Milan and, obviously, Ukrainian teams.

Also, in this euro, if England was in any other group I would cheer for them.
But in group D its Ukraine (my country) and Sweden (huge amount of Swedish guys in Kyiv, and all of them are so nice, they just won me over ).

AND 1-1! We played good.


lol if you're from the country playing us I'd say its forgiveable! Its the majority of "neutrals" that are tiring. They will never realise that too many trophies have been won using this play style for it to just be "luck". Mourinho's Inter, Chelsea this year, Greece 2004 etc. I'm not saying its great to watch but its no worse than tiki-taka which everyone seems to to crazy about lately. Watching players retain the ball just outside the 18 yard box for 60 minutes is hardly my idea of entertainment either. Give me the back and forth style of the Premier League any day.
FindMeInKenya
Profile Joined February 2011
United States797 Posts
June 19 2012 23:38 GMT
#237
What a clear robbery!!!! That was an obvious offside...... Gosh!!!! I hate them refs!!!
Candadar
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
2049 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-19 23:45:27
June 19 2012 23:44 GMT
#238
On June 20 2012 08:38 FindMeInKenya wrote:
What a clear robbery!!!! That was an obvious offside...... Gosh!!!! I hate them refs!!!


It was actually not so obvious.

It's actually very close. It looked like an offside at first glance, but this is another reason we need fucking replay. It was close both on the offside and in the fucking goal. At least from what I've seen.

FIFA is too busy taking bribes to notice though, as many would say
EchoZ
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Japan5041 Posts
June 20 2012 00:37 GMT
#239
Greece vs England finals would be REALLY FUNNY.
Dear Sixsmith...
turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
June 20 2012 01:10 GMT
#240
On June 20 2012 08:16 sc4k wrote:
Wait what's the problem if a movement that was offside resulted in a goal that was disallowed?


the best bit is that even if the goal had been allowed, england still would of finished top and france still would of come second because head to head and goal difference.
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