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Ukraine vs England - Group D Matchday 3 - Page 13

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Ancient-Hunter
Profile Joined June 2011
Korea (South)142 Posts
June 20 2012 01:27 GMT
#241
Greece vs England finals would be REALLY FUNNY.


I dont think Greece and England can be in the final, they are on the same side of the bracket if I remember correctly.
Let's fly!
Candadar
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
2049 Posts
June 20 2012 02:02 GMT
#242
On June 20 2012 10:10 turdburgler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2012 08:16 sc4k wrote:
Wait what's the problem if a movement that was offside resulted in a goal that was disallowed?


the best bit is that even if the goal had been allowed, england still would of finished top and france still would of come second because head to head and goal difference.


This is silly to think like.

There's a major difference of momentum and attitude when you tie a game compared to when you are down 0-1, know you need two to move on and saw your team robbed of a goal.
turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-20 02:11:57
June 20 2012 02:11 GMT
#243
knowing they needed a win didnt exactly spur ukraine into taking the lead in the first place
Reasonable
Profile Joined September 2010
Ukraine1432 Posts
June 20 2012 07:12 GMT
#244
That second goal made me really fucking angry. If I was on that stadium, I'd beat the shit out of somebody. That's why I don't go to such events. Ukraine still showed a good game, pity they couldn't get another one in.
SixSongs
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Poland1455 Posts
June 20 2012 07:48 GMT
#245
Ukraine played really well. In the first half, England was non-existent. I was really impressed by the Ukrainians, especially Konopielka ( sorry if I miss spelled his name). It's too bad that the side referee didn't see that goal for Ukraine, it would be a game changing moment. On the side note, it was probably the last game for Shevcheko - one of my favorite strikers of all time.
The Prince of DroneS
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51619 Posts
June 20 2012 07:59 GMT
#246
I was really impressed by Yarmolenko, he was one of the clear play-makers for the Ukrainian team. Hopefully he lands somewhere good.
Commentator
KiNGxXx
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
7928 Posts
June 20 2012 08:10 GMT
#247
On June 20 2012 08:38 FindMeInKenya wrote:
What a clear robbery!!!! That was an obvious offside...... Gosh!!!! I hate them refs!!!

It was offside! Look at 18 seconds:



So please stop talking about robbery and stuff.
MKP|Maru|TaeJa|Mvp|Polt|INnoVation|GuMiho|Bomber|GoOdy|TeamTerran
rjh
Profile Joined April 2010
United Kingdom8 Posts
June 20 2012 08:16 GMT
#248
Why is there even any argument about Ukraine's 'goal'? So clearly offside that there can't even be a debate.

Offside.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
June 20 2012 08:18 GMT
#249
Lol even there header chance was offside xD
Keep calm and carry on!
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BlueSpace
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany2182 Posts
June 20 2012 08:54 GMT
#250
Always the same story. Soccer needs to finally use technology from the 21 century. So annoying...
Probe1: "Because people are opinionated and love to share their thoughts. Then they read someone else agree with them and get their opinion confused with fact."
KiNGxXx
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
7928 Posts
June 20 2012 09:27 GMT
#251
Are you really from Germany and called it Soccer? I'm ashamed!
And we only need cameras to check if it's a goal or not. But please nothing more. No video review like NFL or something.
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Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
June 20 2012 09:39 GMT
#252
Really a shame for the Ukraine, they played better imo.

Oh well, England is 2012's Greece I guess
A backwards poet writes inverse.
Shottaz
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom414 Posts
June 20 2012 09:41 GMT
#253
I'm trying so hard to enjoy football, but the poor decisions really kill it for me.

If the ref wants it, quick replay from '5th' official, yes or no, 10-20 seconds max.

How has this not been implemented yet...

Praise the sun! \o/
graan
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany589 Posts
June 20 2012 11:34 GMT
#254
On June 20 2012 18:41 Shottaz wrote:
I'm trying so hard to enjoy football, but the poor decisions really kill it for me.

If the ref wants it, quick replay from '5th' official, yes or no, 10-20 seconds max.

How has this not been implemented yet...



replay for everything would change the hole sport, i can understand they are not realy considering this.

but puting two more man on the side which can make the same human mistakes then the other 3 ref already on the pitch - that makes no sense at all, get the goal camera, only for goal or not decisions - thats realy easy to do but those oldtimers at uefa/fifa wont do anything.

We can hope they see now that their way to overcome ger-eng from 2010 didnt work and they will get the damn camera.
SgtCoDFish
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United Kingdom1520 Posts
June 20 2012 11:48 GMT
#255
On June 20 2012 16:12 Reasonable wrote:
That second goal made me really fucking angry. If I was on that stadium, I'd beat the shit out of somebody. That's why I don't go to such events. Ukraine still showed a good game, pity they couldn't get another one in.


Jesus christ, you'd beat someone up over a football game? Really? Hell, over a goal that was scored after a clear offside?

You really struggle to live up to your username by the sounds of it.
turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-20 12:03:02
June 20 2012 12:02 GMT
#256
On June 20 2012 20:34 graan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2012 18:41 Shottaz wrote:
I'm trying so hard to enjoy football, but the poor decisions really kill it for me.

If the ref wants it, quick replay from '5th' official, yes or no, 10-20 seconds max.

How has this not been implemented yet...



replay for everything would change the hole sport, i can understand they are not realy considering this.

but puting two more man on the side which can make the same human mistakes then the other 3 ref already on the pitch - that makes no sense at all, get the goal camera, only for goal or not decisions - thats realy easy to do but those oldtimers at uefa/fifa wont do anything.

We can hope they see now that their way to overcome ger-eng from 2010 didnt work and they will get the damn camera.


the whole argument against replay refs is that it will ruin the flow of the game because of the 1 min delay. but at the moment players spend so long arguing with the ref about every call that it would actually speed things up
GarethGore
Profile Joined June 2012
United Kingdom59 Posts
June 20 2012 12:10 GMT
#257
It wouldnt ruin the flow it would stop bullshit decisions. It takes maybe 30 secs to watch a clip and be like oh that was offside/was a goal etc then allow it. It would make the game flow quicker as how many games have been destroyed by blatently wrong calls. It takes next to no time to get a replay up and on the big screen the ref could use that to view it. Failing that have a system where they do in rugby where it goes to a different official off field to view the video. Football is one of the only sports that doesnt use technology to aide officials. It has to change asap.

On the game though, England did alright, Ukraine i think looked the most dangerous team even more so than France did agaisnt them. The "stolen goal" wasn't stolen since he was offside when the ball was played so it shouldn't have even got that far. though that sucks for Ukraine.
On the France game Sweden outclassed them all game long. They were so much better at going for it as they had nothing to loose. France just looked bad for so long.
CursedRich
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom737 Posts
June 20 2012 12:49 GMT
#258
On June 20 2012 11:02 Candadar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2012 10:10 turdburgler wrote:
On June 20 2012 08:16 sc4k wrote:
Wait what's the problem if a movement that was offside resulted in a goal that was disallowed?


the best bit is that even if the goal had been allowed, england still would of finished top and france still would of come second because head to head and goal difference.


This is silly to think like.

There's a major difference of momentum and attitude when you tie a game compared to when you are down 0-1, know you need two to move on and saw your team robbed of a goal.


Its even more silly to think that even if it had been allowed that the game would have changed in some way, truth is you've no idea what would have happened and nor does anyone else, the goal was offside and wasn't awarded, you then play until the next whistle, end of
Chill Winston......
Greg_J
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
China4409 Posts
June 20 2012 14:15 GMT
#259
On June 20 2012 21:10 GarethGore wrote:
It wouldnt ruin the flow it would stop bullshit decisions. It takes maybe 30 secs to watch a clip and be like oh that was offside/was a goal etc then allow it. It would make the game flow quicker as how many games have been destroyed by blatently wrong calls. It takes next to no time to get a replay up and on the big screen the ref could use that to view it. Failing that have a system where they do in rugby where it goes to a different official off field to view the video. Football is one of the only sports that doesnt use technology to aide officials. It has to change asap.

On the game though, England did alright, Ukraine i think looked the most dangerous team even more so than France did agaisnt them. The "stolen goal" wasn't stolen since he was offside when the ball was played so it shouldn't have even got that far. though that sucks for Ukraine.
On the France game Sweden outclassed them all game long. They were so much better at going for it as they had nothing to loose. France just looked bad for so long.


It should be done just like in the cricket for an LBW call. It takes like 20-30 seconds the crowd get to see the replay on the screen so they can talk about it too and the right call will be reached. It wouldn't disrupt the game any more than a substitution.

Goal line technology and the current system of having a guy stand there are just not needed. Just go watch the replay and then make the right decision.
GarethGore
Profile Joined June 2012
United Kingdom59 Posts
June 20 2012 15:04 GMT
#260
But instead of just having goal line tech why not have all the calls that are disputed go over to another official, that way it can come up on the screen while the official looks at as they do in rugby. If its all done from video there would be less officials need on the pitch (were up to 5 now and their are still wrong calls so often). maybe two guys at a tv screen radio down. Would take less time than a sub and even now big decisions interupt the game since theres so much arguing. It may stop some really bad tackles if its immeadiately shown on the big screen in the venue for everyone too see.
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