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Holland vs Portugal Group B Matchday 3 - Page 5

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Promises
Profile Joined February 2004
Netherlands1821 Posts
June 17 2012 20:43 GMT
#81
I don't think i've seen any other team simply give the ball away that often... Well deserved win for Portugal, the Dutch just didnt deserve a win here. Shitty defence and 2 goals in 3 matches with a star-studded offence. Bleh.
I'm a man of my word, and that word is "unreliable".
Caphe
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Vietnam10817 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-17 20:50:20
June 17 2012 20:44 GMT
#82
On June 18 2012 05:37 DragoonTT wrote:
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On June 18 2012 05:34 Caphe wrote:
On June 18 2012 05:31 SoulSever wrote:
RvP worst player at Euro.

Nah, no one can play alone without support even if you are Messi/Ronaldo. Holland is like 11 individual not a team -_- and with a bad coach.

After this match, I don't think you can blame it on the coach any more. He fielded the exact team that Netherlands wanted him to field, against the weakest defense in the group, and they still got nothing done. Even more, they looked even more shaky defensively than during their other games.

Well, when you put your team at such situation with some serious flaw in selecting the lineup and play style. And ofc their defense is more shaky than the last two since Portugal is the one team that play attacking when Denmark and Germany turtle and hit the Dutch with surprise.

Why he chose Affelay who is injured for a long time and only played a few games the whole 2011-2012 season in Barcelona to start 2 games in a row instead of VDV or Kuyt is really beyond me.

Also start with 2 defensive midfield versus Denmark is also a very bad decision.


On June 18 2012 05:41 Ysellian wrote:
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On June 18 2012 05:38 Steveling wrote:
I was saying shortly before euro starts, that holland doesn't have a key player, a high profile player that can take games on his own, you guys were saying otherwise. Well, what do you think now.


Sneijder is usually that player, but he's been injured and in poor form for the majority of the season.


Actually Sneijder is one of the few Dutch players that performed well. That 1st game vs Denmark he got alot of good pass but RVP and Huntelaar waste them all. Also, Sneijder is a creative playmaker so you need someone like Kuyt to do the running and tackling for him so he can create more chances. Playing with 3 creative but fragile midfield(Affelay, Robben, Sneijder) plus 2 that only known for destroy others team legs(De Jong, Van Bommel) is quite meh -_-.
Terran
mcimba42
Profile Joined October 2011
192 Posts
June 17 2012 20:46 GMT
#83
another crushing performance from the greatest team in this tournament

brilliant, simply brilliant play
don_kyuhote
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
3007 Posts
June 17 2012 20:47 GMT
#84
On June 18 2012 05:46 mcimba42 wrote:
another crushing performance from the greatest team in this tournament

brilliant, simply brilliant play

More like another crushing performance from the WC runner up
For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul?
peacenl
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
550 Posts
June 17 2012 20:48 GMT
#85
Parabéns Portuguesa!!
- One does not simply walk into a bar and start calling the shots.
- Failure doesn't mean you are a failure it just means you haven't succeeded yet.
mcimba42
Profile Joined October 2011
192 Posts
June 17 2012 20:48 GMT
#86
On June 18 2012 05:47 don_kyuhote wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2012 05:46 mcimba42 wrote:
another crushing performance from the greatest team in this tournament

brilliant, simply brilliant play

More like another crushing performance from the WC runner up

yes they crushed hard by going 0-3

they are a shame to football
don_kyuhote
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
3007 Posts
June 17 2012 20:50 GMT
#87
Yes what a shame, even Germany in 2004 and France in 2008 managed a point.
the Dutch? zero...
For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul?
Salteador Neo
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Andorra5591 Posts
June 17 2012 20:51 GMT
#88
On June 18 2012 05:46 mcimba42 wrote:
another crushing performance from the greatest team in this tournament

brilliant, simply brilliant play


Not sure if sarcasm Oo'
Revolutionist fan
jxx
Profile Joined April 2010
Brazil307 Posts
June 17 2012 20:55 GMT
#89
On June 18 2012 05:46 mcimba42 wrote:
another crushing performance from the greatest team in this tournament

brilliant, simply brilliant play


Uh.. no?


Man this is a sad day, I always thought Netherlands had one of the strongest teams, but after today, I can only think of change. Either new players or a new coach or whatever, but staying the same just isn't gonna cut it anymore.
spacer
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands2786 Posts
June 17 2012 20:58 GMT
#90
This team deserved to lose hard after the first 2 matches and I'm glad they did.
Next year, we'll hopefully have a new coach and a new team, because this one just doesn't work at all.
Malinor
Profile Joined November 2008
Germany4734 Posts
June 17 2012 20:59 GMT
#91
Ah well, I was hoping for Denmark or Netherlands to advance, I don't like Portugal too much. But just reading the names of the dutch players (especially on offense) and then realize they go out with zero points is totally crazy. Holland is just a master in wasting potential. Though to be fair, their defense this tournament was just laughable bad.
"Withstand. Suffer. Live as you must now live. There will, one day, be answer to this." ||| "A life, Jimmy, you know what that is? It's the shit that happens while you're waiting for moments that never come."
daSilvaz
Profile Joined June 2011
809 Posts
June 17 2012 21:03 GMT
#92
On June 18 2012 05:59 Malinor wrote:
Ah well, I was hoping for Denmark or Netherlands to advance, I don't like Portugal too much. But just reading the names of the dutch players (especially on offense) and then realize they go out with zero points is totally crazy. Holland is just a master in wasting potential. Though to be fair, their defense this tournament was just laughable bad.

Be sure to send a mail to the ref for that penalty on Bendtner...
KobraKay
Profile Joined March 2010
Portugal4260 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-17 21:07:25
June 17 2012 21:05 GMT
#93
Nice game. Im happy that Portugal won ofcourse but Netherlands has some of my favorite players and it makes me sad that they had this showing in this EURO cup. I blame the manager and his decision making. After this game he could probably argue that he put the team people know its better and they still lost but it is a completely different situation. Their side played really good until our first goal, by then they probably got reminded that a miracle would be needed to advance and colapsed from there on.

Using VB and DJ against Denmark is stupid. VdV even played well at CMid with some defensive responsabilities in the past (against Italy remember?) and has the tactical knowledge to be responsible on both D and O. They ended up with a broken game flow and possession construction.

Good for us, bad for them but Im still sad to see one of my favorite teams go.

On June 18 2012 05:58 spacer wrote:
This team deserved to lose hard after the first 2 matches and I'm glad they did.
Next year, we'll hopefully have a new coach and a new team, because this one just doesn't work at all.


I read that you guys were going to keep the manager no matter what. That was after the first game, maybe after two more losses things changed. I hope so, for the sake of good football
CJ Fighting! (--.--)
Caphe
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Vietnam10817 Posts
June 17 2012 21:06 GMT
#94
On June 18 2012 05:58 spacer wrote:
This team deserved to lose hard after the first 2 matches and I'm glad they did.
Next year, we'll hopefully have a new coach and a new team, because this one just doesn't work at all.

I don't think you need to wait until next year for a new coach . As for players, some new defenders would be really nice since Netherlands got one of the best midfielders and strikers in the world already.
Terran
Malinor
Profile Joined November 2008
Germany4734 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-17 21:21:32
June 17 2012 21:20 GMT
#95
On June 18 2012 06:03 daSilvaz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2012 05:59 Malinor wrote:
Ah well, I was hoping for Denmark or Netherlands to advance, I don't like Portugal too much. But just reading the names of the dutch players (especially on offense) and then realize they go out with zero points is totally crazy. Holland is just a master in wasting potential. Though to be fair, their defense this tournament was just laughable bad.

Be sure to send a mail to the ref for that penalty on Bendtner...


I actually missed that situation, and they didn't talk about that on german tv at all, and they normally don't just ignore things because of patriotism, so I reserve my judgement for when I see the scene, it would not be the first time that something is blown out of proportion on the internet.
Regardless, I won't lose any sleep over that and I don't know how that is relevant to what I wrote.
"Withstand. Suffer. Live as you must now live. There will, one day, be answer to this." ||| "A life, Jimmy, you know what that is? It's the shit that happens while you're waiting for moments that never come."
daSilvaz
Profile Joined June 2011
809 Posts
June 17 2012 21:24 GMT
#96
On June 18 2012 06:20 Malinor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2012 06:03 daSilvaz wrote:
On June 18 2012 05:59 Malinor wrote:
Ah well, I was hoping for Denmark or Netherlands to advance, I don't like Portugal too much. But just reading the names of the dutch players (especially on offense) and then realize they go out with zero points is totally crazy. Holland is just a master in wasting potential. Though to be fair, their defense this tournament was just laughable bad.

Be sure to send a mail to the ref for that penalty on Bendtner...


I actually missed that situation, and they didn't talk about that on german tv at all, and they normally don't just ignore things because of patriotism, so I reserve my judgement for when I see the scene, it would not be the first time that something is blown out of proportion on the internet.
Regardless, I won't lose any sleep over that and I don't know how that is relevant to what I wrote.

Just my reply to you as a portuguese
Vaelone
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Finland4400 Posts
June 17 2012 21:26 GMT
#97
Portugal looked really good today, probably partly due to NL playing terrible but still.

One of the more entertaining matches so far, especially first 20ish minutes.
Dav1oN
Profile Joined January 2012
Ukraine3164 Posts
June 17 2012 21:30 GMT
#98
Holland Holland,the ORANGE city Kharkov supports u guys,even now...

So sad,but its not the end,ur fans da best,and became like a real brothers to us
In memory of Geoff "iNcontroL" Robinson 11.09.1985 - 21.07.2019 A tribute to incredible man, embodiment of joy, esports titan, starcraft community pillar all in one. You will always be remembered!
Malinor
Profile Joined November 2008
Germany4734 Posts
June 17 2012 21:30 GMT
#99
On June 18 2012 06:24 daSilvaz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2012 06:20 Malinor wrote:
On June 18 2012 06:03 daSilvaz wrote:
On June 18 2012 05:59 Malinor wrote:
Ah well, I was hoping for Denmark or Netherlands to advance, I don't like Portugal too much. But just reading the names of the dutch players (especially on offense) and then realize they go out with zero points is totally crazy. Holland is just a master in wasting potential. Though to be fair, their defense this tournament was just laughable bad.

Be sure to send a mail to the ref for that penalty on Bendtner...


I actually missed that situation, and they didn't talk about that on german tv at all, and they normally don't just ignore things because of patriotism, so I reserve my judgement for when I see the scene, it would not be the first time that something is blown out of proportion on the internet.
Regardless, I won't lose any sleep over that and I don't know how that is relevant to what I wrote.

Just my reply to you as a portuguese


Ah, ok. I had that coming I guess. Though it is quite funny that I would root for Portugal in any other group, but I always root for Holland and scandinavian teams. Come to think of it, that group B really sucked, I wanted everyone to advance (just Portugal the least )
"Withstand. Suffer. Live as you must now live. There will, one day, be answer to this." ||| "A life, Jimmy, you know what that is? It's the shit that happens while you're waiting for moments that never come."
shell
Profile Joined October 2010
Portugal2722 Posts
June 17 2012 21:32 GMT
#100
wow couldn't see the games because of travel but i'm so happy for this win, especially for playing good footbal!

Thanks guys and thanks Ronaldo for once again showing your skill!

Sorry to see netherlands go, because it's one of my favourite countries and team.. it's almost funny how he don't lose to you guys since 20 years ago, since you are so strong!

today was a happy days! Obrigado rapazes
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