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Maenander
Profile Joined November 2002
Germany4926 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-19 07:26:15
June 19 2012 07:22 GMT
#141
On June 18 2012 23:51 Caphe wrote:
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On June 18 2012 20:31 Thorakh wrote:
At least we played better than in the other two matches...

Anyway, I've been wondering about this, if we'd put the winner of the Champion's League against Spain (for example), how would that go?

National team almost has no chance against top clubs. Lets say Spain/Germany/Holland vs Barcelona/Real Madrid/ ManU(assume that you can duplicate player so clubs play at their full strenght)

Because clubs are like all-star team with un-limit players pool and a nation has quite limited option. Just look at ManC, basically a team that have to fight for relegation but with alot of money they became the EPL champion in like 3 seasons.

I would favor the Spanish national team over ManCity any day.

On June 19 2012 15:17 Rebs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2012 23:46 sc4k wrote:
On June 18 2012 20:31 Thorakh wrote:
At least we played better than in the other two matches...

Anyway, I've been wondering about this, if we'd put the winner of the Champion's League against Spain (for example), how would that go?


Barcelona is probably better than Spanish national team anyway? Pretty much because of Messi lol.


It would still go the same way, but Spain would struggle even more to score if at all.

Just because Chelsea has beaten Barcelona last time doesn't mean they would be favourites if they would repeat the game right now. Ask the bookies.
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-19 07:33:38
June 19 2012 07:31 GMT
#142
On June 19 2012 16:22 Maenander wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2012 23:51 Caphe wrote:
On June 18 2012 20:31 Thorakh wrote:
At least we played better than in the other two matches...

Anyway, I've been wondering about this, if we'd put the winner of the Champion's League against Spain (for example), how would that go?

National team almost has no chance against top clubs. Lets say Spain/Germany/Holland vs Barcelona/Real Madrid/ ManU(assume that you can duplicate player so clubs play at their full strenght)

Because clubs are like all-star team with un-limit players pool and a nation has quite limited option. Just look at ManC, basically a team that have to fight for relegation but with alot of money they became the EPL champion in like 3 seasons.

I would favor the Spanish national team over ManCity any day.

Show nested quote +
On June 19 2012 15:17 Rebs wrote:
On June 18 2012 23:46 sc4k wrote:
On June 18 2012 20:31 Thorakh wrote:
At least we played better than in the other two matches...

Anyway, I've been wondering about this, if we'd put the winner of the Champion's League against Spain (for example), how would that go?


Barcelona is probably better than Spanish national team anyway? Pretty much because of Messi lol.


It would still go the same way, but Spain would struggle even more to score if at all.

Just because Chelsea has beaten Barcelona last time doesn't mean they would be favourites if they would repeat the game right now. Ask the bookies.


I didnt say they wouldnt be favourites, I said they would struggle to score, and the current Spain will struggle to score, any team would.

Believe me you wont find a bigger supporter of the way they play then me. Doesnt change the fact that putting it past a wall of 10 is hard, atleast without a Messi or more realistically a Villa.
Maenander
Profile Joined November 2002
Germany4926 Posts
June 19 2012 07:49 GMT
#143
On June 19 2012 16:31 Rebs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2012 16:22 Maenander wrote:
On June 18 2012 23:51 Caphe wrote:
On June 18 2012 20:31 Thorakh wrote:
At least we played better than in the other two matches...

Anyway, I've been wondering about this, if we'd put the winner of the Champion's League against Spain (for example), how would that go?

National team almost has no chance against top clubs. Lets say Spain/Germany/Holland vs Barcelona/Real Madrid/ ManU(assume that you can duplicate player so clubs play at their full strenght)

Because clubs are like all-star team with un-limit players pool and a nation has quite limited option. Just look at ManC, basically a team that have to fight for relegation but with alot of money they became the EPL champion in like 3 seasons.

I would favor the Spanish national team over ManCity any day.

On June 19 2012 15:17 Rebs wrote:
On June 18 2012 23:46 sc4k wrote:
On June 18 2012 20:31 Thorakh wrote:
At least we played better than in the other two matches...

Anyway, I've been wondering about this, if we'd put the winner of the Champion's League against Spain (for example), how would that go?


Barcelona is probably better than Spanish national team anyway? Pretty much because of Messi lol.


It would still go the same way, but Spain would struggle even more to score if at all.

Just because Chelsea has beaten Barcelona last time doesn't mean they would be favourites if they would repeat the game right now. Ask the bookies.


I didnt say they wouldnt be favourites, I said they would struggle to score, and the current Spain will struggle to score, any team would.

Believe me you wont find a bigger supporter of the way they play then me. Doesnt change the fact that putting it past a wall of 10 is hard, atleast without a Messi or more realistically a Villa.

I see, I agree with you then.
sc4k
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United Kingdom5454 Posts
June 19 2012 09:29 GMT
#144
On June 19 2012 16:49 Maenander wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2012 16:31 Rebs wrote:
On June 19 2012 16:22 Maenander wrote:
On June 18 2012 23:51 Caphe wrote:
On June 18 2012 20:31 Thorakh wrote:
At least we played better than in the other two matches...

Anyway, I've been wondering about this, if we'd put the winner of the Champion's League against Spain (for example), how would that go?

National team almost has no chance against top clubs. Lets say Spain/Germany/Holland vs Barcelona/Real Madrid/ ManU(assume that you can duplicate player so clubs play at their full strenght)

Because clubs are like all-star team with un-limit players pool and a nation has quite limited option. Just look at ManC, basically a team that have to fight for relegation but with alot of money they became the EPL champion in like 3 seasons.

I would favor the Spanish national team over ManCity any day.

On June 19 2012 15:17 Rebs wrote:
On June 18 2012 23:46 sc4k wrote:
On June 18 2012 20:31 Thorakh wrote:
At least we played better than in the other two matches...

Anyway, I've been wondering about this, if we'd put the winner of the Champion's League against Spain (for example), how would that go?


Barcelona is probably better than Spanish national team anyway? Pretty much because of Messi lol.


It would still go the same way, but Spain would struggle even more to score if at all.

Just because Chelsea has beaten Barcelona last time doesn't mean they would be favourites if they would repeat the game right now. Ask the bookies.


I didnt say they wouldnt be favourites, I said they would struggle to score, and the current Spain will struggle to score, any team would.

Believe me you wont find a bigger supporter of the way they play then me. Doesnt change the fact that putting it past a wall of 10 is hard, atleast without a Messi or more realistically a Villa.

I see, I agree with you then.


Absolutely, I really think that Messi performing so well in Barca has obscured the fact that losing David Villa is horrific for them...well you can see that they didn't win the league but aside from that it plainly does harm Barca. Losing David Villa for the national team is even worse. Man, what a shitty pointless game to get your leg broken in as well.
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