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Antipathy
Profile Joined June 2008
United States222 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-07-10 21:34:49
July 10 2008 21:34 GMT
#21
On July 08 2008 22:59 Chill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2008 13:15 Showtime! wrote:
Vaul always appreciated your efforts. TY

I should get a mike myself. I'm sure I'd be good at it too, but I don't have a sexy accent like Vaul or a broadcaster's voice like Artosis.

Only thing I have to add is, please, please, make the finals a Bo7.


Bo5 is a perfect compromise between fair play and excitement. Bo7 is too long in my eyes.


I actually felt that watching multiple Bo5 matches in a row were a bit long. The finals should definitely be Bo5 but I might consider reducing the preceding matches down to Bo3.
"All give some, some give all"
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8155 Posts
July 11 2008 04:21 GMT
#22
I hope in TSL2 you will be able to have the cheerfuls from the cheerful thread on the stream (I remember someone said it kept causing the stream to crash last time :\). I hope you guys can fix that!
Free Palestine
Tudazul
Profile Joined July 2004
Brazil400 Posts
July 12 2008 04:08 GMT
#23
I want to see chinese players like Lx, Pj and F91.
http://www.gamesphere.com.br/blog/tudazul.html
Ancestral
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States3230 Posts
July 12 2008 05:20 GMT
#24
I think BO5 for semi and final was the best choice and should not be changed, I will stand as representing the "silent majority" which Nixon alluded to, because I think this is what he was talking about.

On July 12 2008 13:08 Tudazul wrote:
I want to see chinese players like Lx, Pj and F91.

This too, I know it didn't work out but I hope in the next TSL that is not the case. They obviously have enough talent to change the course of the TSL, perhaps not the winner, but perhaps yes the winner.
The Nature and purpose of the martial way are universal; all selfish desires must be roasted in the tempering fires of hard training. - Masutatsu Oyama
CaucasianAsian
Profile Blog Joined September 2005
Korea (South)11591 Posts
July 12 2008 06:09 GMT
#25
i think FPVOD's would be cool during a final or something.
Calendar@ Fish Server: `iOps]..Stark
MasterOfChaos
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Germany2896 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-07-12 12:24:53
July 12 2008 12:24 GMT
#26
FPVod is not trivial with the current technology. You either need a vod recorder on the comps of the players, or a fp-replay plugin.
LiquipediaOne eye to kill. Two eyes to live.
Vaul
Profile Joined January 2008
New Zealand112 Posts
July 12 2008 12:53 GMT
#27
Chaos launcher has a plugin that allows you to hit the control groups for a player in the replay and it will select the units that the player had grouped on that number at that point in the game. That's not 'first person' but it's a handy tool that admin might consider involving in the cast somehow, since they are replays after all.
www.youtube.com/user/vaulsc
Manifesto7
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Osaka27157 Posts
July 14 2008 06:24 GMT
#28
On July 09 2008 08:20 asel wrote:
Dont show only the replays of the winner, people can recognize who won the series with this :x


This is a myth, we tested it.

On July 11 2008 13:21 Ideas wrote:
I hope in TSL2 you will be able to have the cheerfuls from the cheerful thread on the stream (I remember someone said it kept causing the stream to crash last time :\). I hope you guys can fix that!


Yeah it was amazing how a simple thing cuase so many problems. We will try again.

On July 10 2008 20:56 Schnake wrote:
I object, bo7 is the more worth for a final and the audience wants to have as many games as possible to watch. How is are two more games making it too long and boring? Korean finals are also bo7 and I am sure we can hold the excitement at least as long as they can.


No they aren't, don't just make up shit to prove a point.
ModeratorGodfather
fiRe)HappyZerg
Profile Joined April 2008
Ukraine277 Posts
July 14 2008 08:23 GMT
#29
replays>vod's
though video stream coverage is great, I always want to watch reps
Happy me, happy skill, happy win :D
Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25991 Posts
July 14 2008 13:57 GMT
#30
On July 14 2008 17:23 fiRe)HappyZerg wrote:
replays>vod's


A study of the 142 leading American statisticians actually confirms that 129 of the 142 actually prefer VODs.

Moderator
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
July 14 2008 14:02 GMT
#31
On July 14 2008 17:23 fiRe)HappyZerg wrote:
replays>vod's
though video stream coverage is great, I always want to watch reps


rofl you guys are never going to see the end of this shit popping up.
Kennigit *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada19447 Posts
July 14 2008 14:06 GMT
#32
christ almighty -_-
CDRdude
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States5625 Posts
July 16 2008 20:28 GMT
#33
On July 10 2008 21:44 Chill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2008 20:56 Schnake wrote:
On July 08 2008 22:59 Chill wrote:
On July 08 2008 13:15 Showtime! wrote:
Vaul always appreciated your efforts. TY

I should get a mike myself. I'm sure I'd be good at it too, but I don't have a sexy accent like Vaul or a broadcaster's voice like Artosis.

Only thing I have to add is, please, please, make the finals a Bo7.


Bo5 is a perfect compromise between fair play and excitement. Bo7 is too long in my eyes.


I object, bo7 is the more worth for a final and the audience wants to have as many games as possible to watch. How is are two more games making it too long and boring? Korean finals are also bo7 and I am sure we can hold the excitement at least as long as they can.


Cool, I'll just make up stuff to support my arguments too.

TSL needs more ninjas and random live bear attacks because that's what makes Korean finals so great.

Totally right of course. What we need to do is put the finalists in a cage with an angry bear, a katana, and a computer running BW. The winner is the player that kills the bear (they each have their own cage and their own bear), and also wins the bo5. The eventual champion will be crowned the ninja Starcraft champion of the world, second in rank to only Bisu, the ninja champion of Aiur.

FP view would be really cool, although it seems impractical to implement. What we really need is less PvP. This can be solved by trying to find the worst map for toss ever, and using only that :p
Force staff is the best item in the game.
fragbait
Profile Joined June 2007
Germany19 Posts
July 17 2008 15:29 GMT
#34
Hi,

"I want to see chinese players like Lx, Pj and F91."
- I totally agree. While I can see why no Koreans are allowed, it would simply add to the credibility of the tournament. The winner could really claim to be the best SC player out of Korea atm.

"replays>vod's"
- actually, I beg to disagree. While replays are great, nothing beats a well-commentated vod. Except for a well-commentated live stream, of course...

I totally dug the event. Especially the art and graphics team was brilliant. It would be even better if we had even more hype - maybe extra hype movies before the finals? Maybe polls that would be commented on ingame from round of 32 onwards? Definitely I'd love to hear/read more from the players, from the losers, too. It would have been nice to see Mondy interviewed directly after the upset on teamliquid, for example.

I think everyone did a fantastic job. There's always room for amelioration, though (player webcam stream included in the live stream like in the Korean leagues, anyone?)



Greetings, fragbait
Our brood shall overrun the fields that men call home.
G5
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
United States2921 Posts
July 17 2008 18:41 GMT
#35
My suggestion is to use more common sense when it comes to deciding who won when ppl drop and stuff

u guys really fucked over machine in the last tsl when he had a game won vs kwak and kwak dropped and u made him replay it

that was retarded and that shit needs to be fixed
SunfireVII
Profile Joined July 2008
United States6 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-07-20 06:28:36
July 20 2008 06:27 GMT
#36
Since the vods are hosted on youtube this information might be useful to the tsl staff, allowing for higher quality vods. I found a good explanation of how to do this on a forum (link)

In short this will allow the tsl videos to be higher quality mp4 videos rather then the normal youtube flash versions.

riptide
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
5673 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-07-20 15:49:12
July 20 2008 15:48 GMT
#37
1) I'd like to see more interviews for sure. I think audio interviews over vent or even skype would be greatly appreciated by everyone. I think the winner should definitely be interviewed via webcam and skype, perhaps at length. Maybe even include a talk through of the finals with him? That would rock.

2) Although switching to the FP view of the player in game might be problematic (with my fair understanding of how you guys streamed TSL), it might be cool to release FPVODs after the game. I for one would love to see Draco or JF's FPVODs from the finals. Of course, this would depend on the players' computers, and how they handled fraps or camtasia I guess.

3) It would be great, from an organiser's point of view, to make the TSL a sort of pseudo-qualification tournament for Courage or something? Maybe sponsor the winner to go to Korea (if he/she wants) and try to qualify for pro-status? Maybe eSTRO (Idra) or CJ (Testie?) would be interested in trying a top foreigner every season. Again, the understanding would be no guarantees, but a shot at making it pro? I guess that's long term though, so please don't flame me for thinking big.

4) For the finals, it would be awesome if TLers all over the world got together to in groups to watch it, and streams of these gatherings were fed in the run up to it, and between games. It would create atmosphere, and help build hype (not that you need much more hype, but still). I know people get together to watch the OSL/MSL/PL finals, so it would just be a matter of setting up a webcam at some of these places. Also will increase lulz on IRC, methinks? Again, this would create stream complications, but nothing R1CH and crew cant handle I think.

In conclusion, let me just say that TSL1 was fantastic, and that TL can only go up from here. I hope at least some of these suggestions helped, and look forward to a cracker TSL2.
AdministratorSKT T1 | Masters of the Universe
Cloud
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Sexico5880 Posts
July 20 2008 17:37 GMT
#38
On July 14 2008 17:23 fiRe)HappyZerg wrote:
replays>vod's
though video stream coverage is great, I always want to watch reps


Yeah give reps and it wouldnt be a fucking starleague!
BlueLaguna on West, msg for game.
arew
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Lithuania1861 Posts
July 21 2008 06:34 GMT
#39
No replay's yo. I think everything was fine with 1st TSL. Keep it going.
750/750 emotions fully stacked
SayaSP
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Laos5494 Posts
August 01 2008 17:33 GMT
#40
On July 10 2008 20:56 Schnake wrote:
I object, bo7 is the more worth for a final and the audience wants to have as many games as possible to watch. How is are two more games making it too long and boring? Korean finals are also bo7 and I am sure we can hold the excitement at least as long as they can.

Individual player tournaments are not proleague. (Which is where I assume he got the bo7 idea from.)
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