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polarwolf
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
924 Posts
February 15 2010 12:30 GMT
#441
Idra had the the hate coming. He is trashtalking a lot. He is bashing Europeans totally unprovoked (see interview) and shows some really cocky attitude.
I'd be fine if he could back it up with results, but after losing like that he should think about backing off a little bit.
fight_or_flight
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States3988 Posts
February 15 2010 15:02 GMT
#442
On February 15 2010 19:51 Biff The Understudy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2010 17:20 LxRogue wrote:
I think the problem is that IdrA lacks confidence. Next time he should predict a 5-0 win.

Being cocky and being confident are radically different things. I would ever say that people who are cocky are usually unconfident.

I think Idra's problem is his lack of confidence, despite all his effort to look very sure of himself. Confident people don't need to trash other people in public. They know that they are very good and that's enough for them.

I agree. I feel a little bad for idra actually...he has a couple people post blogs (including rekrul's extremely confident blog) betting that he is going to lose. He also has this big headline saying "idra predicts 3-0" when he was kind of baited into saying that for hype. Also, he is expected to win this tournament by his peers (in korea).

So there was really a huge amount of pressure on him, and more importantly, a good portion of that pressure was fear of losing rather than desire to win.

Nony on the other hand probably doesn't care about losing as much. He is probably more pressured by the desire to win the prize money for him and his wife.
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PiePie
Profile Joined February 2010
United States248 Posts
February 15 2010 15:10 GMT
#443
NonY also wants to show that you can have a life with a wife and beat someone on CJ B team
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machinehead..
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
412 Posts
February 15 2010 15:48 GMT
#444
Perhaps being over-confident in interviews put a little added pressure on him to not mess up/win; I can't imagine Idra cancels his cc on accident too often, if ever. It's too bad he didn't play a little safer so we could see a longer game to get a more accurate depiction of their skill levels, and ofc more epic games.
kernl
Profile Joined October 2008
84 Posts
February 15 2010 16:19 GMT
#445
On February 16 2010 00:02 fight_or_flight wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2010 19:51 Biff The Understudy wrote:
On February 15 2010 17:20 LxRogue wrote:
I think the problem is that IdrA lacks confidence. Next time he should predict a 5-0 win.

Being cocky and being confident are radically different things. I would ever say that people who are cocky are usually unconfident.

I think Idra's problem is his lack of confidence, despite all his effort to look very sure of himself. Confident people don't need to trash other people in public. They know that they are very good and that's enough for them.

I agree. I feel a little bad for idra actually...he has a couple people post blogs (including rekrul's extremely confident blog) betting that he is going to lose. He also has this big headline saying "idra predicts 3-0" when he was kind of baited into saying that for hype. Also, he is expected to win this tournament by his peers (in korea).

So there was really a huge amount of pressure on him, and more importantly, a good portion of that pressure was fear of losing rather than desire to win.

Nony on the other hand probably doesn't care about losing as much. He is probably more pressured by the desire to win the prize money for him and his wife.


I feel bad for him too, but on the other hand you gotta learn your lesson some time when you talk so much bullshit. In this case the lesson was particularly harsh, but I hope this will change his manners.
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ilistis
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States828 Posts
February 15 2010 17:08 GMT
#446
I love the drama that Idra has created. It's even better that he lost. TSL 2 surpasses TSL 1 by far. I <3 Teamliquid!
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Simple
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States801 Posts
February 15 2010 17:14 GMT
#447
guys, its part of his gimmick. and it works. it gets people talking, and it works the hype.
[GiTM]-Ace
Profile Joined September 2002
United States4935 Posts
February 15 2010 17:44 GMT
#448
On February 15 2010 08:32 polarwolf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2010 14:20 Hot_Bid wrote:

PokerStrategy.com TSL:
Hypothetically, if Nony wins, what would you say to him?

IdrA[Media]:
I don't know, I've never really been a fan of thinking about situations that aren't gonna happen. Seems kinda like a waste of time.


Know what is a waste of time? To go to Korea, and to train to play a computer game for like 16 a day game and still be unable to win a foreign tournament.
You took the wrong profession, thx, goodbye, i am laughing my ass off.


because idra cant win a foreign tournament.....
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Silentenigma
Profile Joined July 2009
Turkey2037 Posts
February 15 2010 18:11 GMT
#449

Know what is a waste of time? To go to Korea, and to train to play a computer game for like 16 a day game and still be unable to win a foreign tournament.
You took the wrong profession, thx, goodbye, i am laughing my ass off.

This is starcraft.You can lose even thought you practiced much harder than your opponents.

He won many tournaments and gained good money.Also his gaming is really improved.

Sometimes you see korean pros lose to foreigners too and you think they wasted their time just beacuse a lose to foreigner, i dont think so.
You cant say it s a waste of time because of one loss.
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psyote
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Germany15 Posts
February 15 2010 18:14 GMT
#450
My 2 cents: That BO5 clearly showed that IdrA is just not good and Nony is more talented!
citi.zen
Profile Joined April 2009
2509 Posts
February 15 2010 18:15 GMT
#451
On February 16 2010 02:14 Simple wrote:
guys, its part of his gimmick. and it works. it gets people talking, and it works the hype.


Yeah, because Idra lost a whole bunch of people will get into SC, pay Incontrol for lessons, buy TL merchandise and play poker. They hype really is working!
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shenlong
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
219 Posts
February 15 2010 18:52 GMT
#452
On February 15 2010 21:30 polarwolf wrote:
Idra had the the hate coming. He is trashtalking a lot. He is bashing Europeans totally unprovoked (see interview) and shows some really cocky attitude.
I'd be fine if he could back it up with results, but after losing like that he should think about backing off a little bit.



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He has a lot of results to back it up... :o
MapleLeafSirup
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany950 Posts
February 15 2010 19:19 GMT
#453
idra did make some money in the past so all the practice in korea was worth it at least a little bit...
maybe it is not good for idra to stay there because he is not talented enough for e-sports and will end up being without a job and without anything he could have learned at the age of 30
but that is an issue of the future and idra has to decide himself if a life full of starcraft is worth it
tinman
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States287 Posts
February 15 2010 19:20 GMT
#454
Idra brought a level of quality and even a level of theatricality to the TSL that no other foreigner could have brought. He was the juggernaut, the final boss, the man-to-beat. And he conducted himself just fine, even if his shit-talk hurt your feelings.

This tournament was better for having him in it. The SC:BW scene is better for having him in it. And all you fuckers out there experiencing such glee after his loss need to fuck off and go find another hobby (especially: BiffTheUnderstudy and polarwolf who are both clearly struggling with the strangeness of their own homoerotic ardor towards Idra and need to find a more positive channel for expressing it than this public bathing in the teamliquid tub of Idra-schadenfreude that we've currently go going on here and which doesn't exactly reflect well on our community).
"Politics is an extravagance, an extravagance about grievances. And poetry is an extravagance about grief. And grievances are something that can be remedied, and griefs are irremediable."
tinman
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States287 Posts
February 15 2010 19:24 GMT
#455
On February 16 2010 04:19 MapleLeafSirup wrote:
idra did make some money in the past so all the practice in korea was worth it at least a little bit...
maybe it is not good for idra to stay there because he is not talented enough for e-sports and will end up being without a job and without anything he could have learned at the age of 30
but that is an issue of the future and idra has to decide himself if a life full of starcraft is worth it


Let me guess. You're a high school guidance counselor?
"Politics is an extravagance, an extravagance about grievances. And poetry is an extravagance about grief. And grievances are something that can be remedied, and griefs are irremediable."
valaki
Profile Joined June 2009
Hungary2476 Posts
February 15 2010 19:31 GMT
#456
On February 16 2010 03:11 Silentenigma wrote:
Show nested quote +

Know what is a waste of time? To go to Korea, and to train to play a computer game for like 16 a day game and still be unable to win a foreign tournament.
You took the wrong profession, thx, goodbye, i am laughing my ass off.

This is starcraft.You can lose even thought you practiced much harder than your opponents.

He won many tournaments and gained good money.Also his gaming is really improved.

Sometimes you see korean pros lose to foreigners too and you think they wasted their time just beacuse a lose to foreigner, i dont think so.
You cant say it s a waste of time because of one loss.


Yeah foreigners do beat pros sometimes but not in a box series. Also this was like inactive oov or nal-ra beating jaedong...something like this shouldn't happen.
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ArchoN[VenoM]
Profile Joined January 2010
United States90 Posts
February 15 2010 19:39 GMT
#457
I was rooting for NonY to win but all the IdrA bashes need to give it a break. I might not agree with some of the stuff IdrA says but i certainly believe he's a good player and should have the confidence to speak about it. Most of you guys are pretty hard on your comments when i think we all should realize its just a game... (Competitive game).

I am all for the Hero/Villan stuff and it was a great series to watch but lets tone it done a bit eh?
Life with every breath ~Bushido
polarwolf
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
924 Posts
February 15 2010 19:41 GMT
#458
seems more like my talk hurt your feelings. "Homoerotic ardor towards Idra", give me a break =)

And there is no doubt that Idra is the No.1 Arrogant - Trash - Talker out there. And in my opinion:

If you dish it out, you have to be able to take it.

tinman
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States287 Posts
February 15 2010 19:46 GMT
#459
Dude, polarwolf. It's cool. So you want Idra's manmeat. It's not that big of a deal, man.
"Politics is an extravagance, an extravagance about grievances. And poetry is an extravagance about grief. And grievances are something that can be remedied, and griefs are irremediable."
johnnyspazz
Profile Joined April 2009
Taiwan1470 Posts
February 15 2010 19:47 GMT
#460
does idra get paid as a pro gamer? i remember reading somewhere that B teamers are basically slaves because they have to play 8+ hours a day only to hope for a chance on the A team
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