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spetial
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
United States688 Posts
February 15 2010 01:08 GMT
#401
Idra predicts 3-0
metal_survive @ uswest
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
February 15 2010 01:16 GMT
#402
Well, one result of this is that Artosis is gonna have to be a bit more humble about Idra and Ret from now on
Daedes
Profile Joined August 2009
Bangladesh105 Posts
February 15 2010 01:19 GMT
#403
I voted for nony...but i cant beilive ppl are accaully saying idra is bad....No game was at mid game idra couldnt show his strength or what hes been really praticing over the years...who the fuck wants to play a mid-late game Game with idra?
praetor.at
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Austria92 Posts
February 15 2010 01:24 GMT
#404
+ Show Spoiler +
what nony did basically is what you do when you don't believe in winning in a normal game. it's perfectly okay and reasonable to do so. his execution was well enough, and alongside the freewin idra granted him, it proved to be enough. i didnt quite like the half-hearted destination proxy, tho. i'm sure there are better cheeses to think of.
tinman
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States287 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-15 01:28:09
February 15 2010 01:27 GMT
#405
On February 15 2010 09:55 BroOd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2010 09:27 Craton wrote:
On February 15 2010 09:23 Orome wrote:
Do you know the guts it takes to actually go to Korea to try to become a progamer and the endurance it takes to stay there for as long as Idra has? This obviously isn't the proudest moment of his career and there's absolutely no need to kick him when he's down. We're the most important non-korean SC community, the least we can do is support him. Him being a cocky nerd at times doesn't change that.


Not that much. Daniel Lee brought him over and did pretty much all the lifting for him, he was given a hand-out pro-licensing instead of having to win courage, and doesn't seem to have spent any effort to improve his personality, let alone advance in SC. He's as big a tool as he's always been, maybe worse.

We're under absolutely no obligation to ever support someone. If you want respect and support, you earn it.


Excuse me, but who the fuck are you to tell someone they need to improve their personality? And where exactly is IdrA asking for your respect or support? As far as I can tell, earning the respect of Craton, smug internet know-it-all, is probably pretty far down on IdrA's list of priorities, and rightfully so.

I'd take IdrA over any of you self-righteous vultures any day, acting like assholes while simultaneously deriding IdrA for "bad manners".



Amen.
"Politics is an extravagance, an extravagance about grievances. And poetry is an extravagance about grief. And grievances are something that can be remedied, and griefs are irremediable."
EleanorRIgby
Profile Joined March 2008
Canada3923 Posts
February 15 2010 01:32 GMT
#406
Got what he deserved
savior did nothing wrong
PiePie
Profile Joined February 2010
United States248 Posts
February 15 2010 01:40 GMT
#407
Idra got what he deserved indeed lol
RFG- Raging Flash Fangirl
Attris
Profile Joined September 2009
United States175 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-15 01:45:31
February 15 2010 01:44 GMT
#408
On February 15 2010 10:24 praetor.at wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
what nony did basically is what you do when you don't believe in winning in a normal game. it's perfectly okay and reasonable to do so. his execution was well enough, and alongside the freewin idra granted him, it proved to be enough. i didnt quite like the half-hearted destination proxy, tho. i'm sure there are better cheeses to think of.

Normal? I feel some people forget this is a RTS game, not a no rush 10 min while I build up. He won with good strategy. I guess it makes people feel better calling it "cheese" because they lose to it, but this is a "strategy" game. Just my .02.
Are you serious? |sRs| www.srejects.com
Orome
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Switzerland11984 Posts
February 15 2010 01:53 GMT
#409
On February 15 2010 10:44 Attris wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2010 10:24 praetor.at wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
what nony did basically is what you do when you don't believe in winning in a normal game. it's perfectly okay and reasonable to do so. his execution was well enough, and alongside the freewin idra granted him, it proved to be enough. i didnt quite like the half-hearted destination proxy, tho. i'm sure there are better cheeses to think of.

Normal? I feel some people forget this is a RTS game, not a no rush 10 min while I build up. He won with good strategy. I guess it makes people feel better calling it "cheese" because they lose to it, but this is a "strategy" game. Just my .02.


The difference between a real strategy win and cheese is that the latter requires some luck to be successful. Cheese only works if it's not scouted by the opponent. You could argue that game 5 was a strategy win, Nony definitely made it sound like that in his interview, but the rest were definitely cheese.
On a purely personal note, I'd like to show Yellow the beauty of infinitely repeating Starcraft 2 bunkers. -Boxer
Chef
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
10810 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-15 02:09:02
February 15 2010 02:06 GMT
#410
On February 15 2010 10:24 praetor.at wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
what nony did basically is what you do when you don't believe in winning in a normal game. it's perfectly okay and reasonable to do so. his execution was well enough, and alongside the freewin idra granted him, it proved to be enough. i didnt quite like the half-hearted destination proxy, tho. i'm sure there are better cheeses to think of.

+ Show Spoiler +
Idra played very risky, greedy builds. Of course if he'd gotten to the mid game he'd be at an advantage... Not just because that's his supposed strength, but because he was playing greedy. Nony didn't play risky in any of these games really, except MAYBE Destination, but that seemed like just a smart meta-game choice rather than trying to steal a win. He correctly predicted Idra would not wall.

I don't really think NonY was unconfident in his mechanics. He just played against IdrA's weaknesses. NonY's strength is that he prepares really well, not that he's a macro monster. Relying on his micro is fine. I don't care what people think NonY's normal style is. If you listened to the interview you'd know he was planning for mid-game/late game strength in 3 of the maps, and it just didn't make it that far because IdrA messed up in game 2, and was 'unlucky' in game 5 (getting scouted first.

Really, the most telling part of this series is that IdrA thought NonY would be too pussy to do anything aggressive, so he wanted to take advantage. It backfired.
LEGEND!! LEGEND!!
Crazazyasian1337
Profile Joined October 2009
United States362 Posts
February 15 2010 02:09 GMT
#411
haha. let's see how idra responds to this now
;)))))))))
Yurebis
Profile Joined January 2009
United States1452 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-15 02:23:40
February 15 2010 02:16 GMT
#412
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Idra would have won if not for that thousand-dollar misclick imo. Too bad it came down to that.
GL next time Idra...

I don't feel spoilers are necessary but meh
Power corrupts. Absolute power corrupts absolutely.
Biff The Understudy
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France7917 Posts
February 15 2010 02:27 GMT
#413
On February 15 2010 08:32 polarwolf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2010 14:20 Hot_Bid wrote:

PokerStrategy.com TSL:
Hypothetically, if Nony wins, what would you say to him?

IdrA[Media]:
I don't know, I've never really been a fan of thinking about situations that aren't gonna happen. Seems kinda like a waste of time.


Know what is a waste of time? To go to Korea, and to train to play a computer game for like 16 a day game and still be unable to win a foreign tournament.
You took the wrong profession, thx, goodbye, i am laughing my ass off.

Ouch. Listen, it's a bit easy right now maybe.

Usually I like seing IdrA losing, but this time it just feels bitter. Just think the kid has been spending years of his life being a slave playing this game, and he keeps choking at every big occasion. IdrA is definitly more skilled overall that Kolll or Nony, and he loses 2 Bos in two big occasions.

The point is, I believe Idra is so cocky and so unbearable because he lacks hugely self confidence.
The fellow who is out to burn things up is the counterpart of the fool who thinks he can save the world. The world needs neither to be burned up nor to be saved. The world is, we are. Transients, if we buck it; here to stay if we accept it. ~H.Miller
SpaNiarD
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Spain351 Posts
February 15 2010 02:29 GMT
#414
you're really good at making predictions
a very useful talent toi have
JohannesH
Profile Joined September 2009
Finland1364 Posts
February 15 2010 02:35 GMT
#415
On February 15 2010 11:27 Biff The Understudy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2010 08:32 polarwolf wrote:
On February 10 2010 14:20 Hot_Bid wrote:

PokerStrategy.com TSL:
Hypothetically, if Nony wins, what would you say to him?

IdrA[Media]:
I don't know, I've never really been a fan of thinking about situations that aren't gonna happen. Seems kinda like a waste of time.


Know what is a waste of time? To go to Korea, and to train to play a computer game for like 16 a day game and still be unable to win a foreign tournament.
You took the wrong profession, thx, goodbye, i am laughing my ass off.

Ouch. Listen, it's a bit easy right now maybe.

Usually I like seing IdrA losing, but this time it just feels bitter. Just think the kid has been spending years of his life being a slave playing this game, and he keeps choking at every big occasion. IdrA is definitly more skilled overall that Kolll or Nony, and he loses 2 Bos in two big occasions.

The point is, I believe Idra is so cocky and so unbearable because he lacks hugely self confidence.

More skilled? I dont know how that goes together with losing to those players, seems we got a bit different definitions of skill...
If you have to ask, you don't know.
We Are Here
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Australia1810 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-15 02:39:38
February 15 2010 02:39 GMT
#416
On February 15 2010 11:35 JohannesH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2010 11:27 Biff The Understudy wrote:
On February 15 2010 08:32 polarwolf wrote:
On February 10 2010 14:20 Hot_Bid wrote:

PokerStrategy.com TSL:
Hypothetically, if Nony wins, what would you say to him?

IdrA[Media]:
I don't know, I've never really been a fan of thinking about situations that aren't gonna happen. Seems kinda like a waste of time.


Know what is a waste of time? To go to Korea, and to train to play a computer game for like 16 a day game and still be unable to win a foreign tournament.
You took the wrong profession, thx, goodbye, i am laughing my ass off.

Ouch. Listen, it's a bit easy right now maybe.

Usually I like seing IdrA losing, but this time it just feels bitter. Just think the kid has been spending years of his life being a slave playing this game, and he keeps choking at every big occasion. IdrA is definitly more skilled overall that Kolll or Nony, and he loses 2 Bos in two big occasions.

The point is, I believe Idra is so cocky and so unbearable because he lacks hugely self confidence.

More skilled? I dont know how that goes together with losing to those players, seems we got a bit different definitions of skill...
do you think shine is more skilled than bisu or even stork?
He who turns those around him into allies, possesses the most terrifying ability in the world.
kernl
Profile Joined October 2008
84 Posts
February 15 2010 02:43 GMT
#417
On February 15 2010 11:35 JohannesH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2010 11:27 Biff The Understudy wrote:
On February 15 2010 08:32 polarwolf wrote:
On February 10 2010 14:20 Hot_Bid wrote:

PokerStrategy.com TSL:
Hypothetically, if Nony wins, what would you say to him?

IdrA[Media]:
I don't know, I've never really been a fan of thinking about situations that aren't gonna happen. Seems kinda like a waste of time.


Know what is a waste of time? To go to Korea, and to train to play a computer game for like 16 a day game and still be unable to win a foreign tournament.
You took the wrong profession, thx, goodbye, i am laughing my ass off.

Ouch. Listen, it's a bit easy right now maybe.

Usually I like seing IdrA losing, but this time it just feels bitter. Just think the kid has been spending years of his life being a slave playing this game, and he keeps choking at every big occasion. IdrA is definitly more skilled overall that Kolll or Nony, and he loses 2 Bos in two big occasions.

The point is, I believe Idra is so cocky and so unbearable because he lacks hugely self confidence.

More skilled? I dont know how that goes together with losing to those players, seems we got a bit different definitions of skill...


Of course he has more skill than any other foreigner. Sure he spends twice as much time practicing wheras he's not twice as good, and he talks bullshit and I hate him and I like the fact that NonY won etc etc.

But at the moment he's the favorite against any foreigner and I would bet a million that out of 1000 games he would win more than 50% against any other foreigner, and whoever wouldn't do the same is insane. Guess that makes him more skilled.
desu
remembervhs
Profile Joined September 2009
11 Posts
February 15 2010 02:48 GMT
#418
I was extremely disapointed with idra using a 14 cc in the last set. If he's so sure that he's the better player then a 14 cc makes absolutely no sense.

The games were overall of a very poor quality.
Toads
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada1795 Posts
February 15 2010 04:14 GMT
#419
HAHAHA how can he predict this when he gave a game to Nony with :

+ Show Spoiler +
Cancel is own CC then GG xD
(。◕ ω ◕。) Beer Time !!!! (。◕ ω ◕。)
frozenkatkiller
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States168 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-15 04:52:34
February 15 2010 04:48 GMT
#420
Best 3-0 I've ever seen
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