EPT[TSL] IdrA predicts 3-0 - Page 21
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spetial
United States688 Posts
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Azarkon
United States21060 Posts
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Daedes
Bangladesh105 Posts
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praetor.at
Austria92 Posts
what nony did basically is what you do when you don't believe in winning in a normal game. it's perfectly okay and reasonable to do so. his execution was well enough, and alongside the freewin idra granted him, it proved to be enough. i didnt quite like the half-hearted destination proxy, tho. i'm sure there are better cheeses to think of. | ||
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tinman
United States287 Posts
On February 15 2010 09:55 BroOd wrote: Excuse me, but who the fuck are you to tell someone they need to improve their personality? And where exactly is IdrA asking for your respect or support? As far as I can tell, earning the respect of Craton, smug internet know-it-all, is probably pretty far down on IdrA's list of priorities, and rightfully so. I'd take IdrA over any of you self-righteous vultures any day, acting like assholes while simultaneously deriding IdrA for "bad manners". Amen. | ||
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EleanorRIgby
Canada3923 Posts
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PiePie
United States248 Posts
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Attris
United States175 Posts
On February 15 2010 10:24 praetor.at wrote: + Show Spoiler + what nony did basically is what you do when you don't believe in winning in a normal game. it's perfectly okay and reasonable to do so. his execution was well enough, and alongside the freewin idra granted him, it proved to be enough. i didnt quite like the half-hearted destination proxy, tho. i'm sure there are better cheeses to think of. Normal? I feel some people forget this is a RTS game, not a no rush 10 min while I build up. He won with good strategy. I guess it makes people feel better calling it "cheese" because they lose to it, but this is a "strategy" game. Just my .02. | ||
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Orome
Switzerland11984 Posts
On February 15 2010 10:44 Attris wrote: Normal? I feel some people forget this is a RTS game, not a no rush 10 min while I build up. He won with good strategy. I guess it makes people feel better calling it "cheese" because they lose to it, but this is a "strategy" game. Just my .02. The difference between a real strategy win and cheese is that the latter requires some luck to be successful. Cheese only works if it's not scouted by the opponent. You could argue that game 5 was a strategy win, Nony definitely made it sound like that in his interview, but the rest were definitely cheese. | ||
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Chef
10810 Posts
On February 15 2010 10:24 praetor.at wrote: + Show Spoiler + what nony did basically is what you do when you don't believe in winning in a normal game. it's perfectly okay and reasonable to do so. his execution was well enough, and alongside the freewin idra granted him, it proved to be enough. i didnt quite like the half-hearted destination proxy, tho. i'm sure there are better cheeses to think of. + Show Spoiler + Idra played very risky, greedy builds. Of course if he'd gotten to the mid game he'd be at an advantage... Not just because that's his supposed strength, but because he was playing greedy. Nony didn't play risky in any of these games really, except MAYBE Destination, but that seemed like just a smart meta-game choice rather than trying to steal a win. He correctly predicted Idra would not wall. I don't really think NonY was unconfident in his mechanics. He just played against IdrA's weaknesses. NonY's strength is that he prepares really well, not that he's a macro monster. Relying on his micro is fine. I don't care what people think NonY's normal style is. If you listened to the interview you'd know he was planning for mid-game/late game strength in 3 of the maps, and it just didn't make it that far because IdrA messed up in game 2, and was 'unlucky' in game 5 (getting scouted first. Really, the most telling part of this series is that IdrA thought NonY would be too pussy to do anything aggressive, so he wanted to take advantage. It backfired. | ||
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Crazazyasian1337
United States362 Posts
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Yurebis
United States1452 Posts
Idra would have won if not for that thousand-dollar misclick imo. Too bad it came down to that.  GL next time Idra... I don't feel spoilers are necessary but meh | ||
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Biff The Understudy
France7903 Posts
On February 15 2010 08:32 polarwolf wrote: Know what is a waste of time? To go to Korea, and to train to play a computer game for like 16 a day game and still be unable to win a foreign tournament. You took the wrong profession, thx, goodbye, i am laughing my ass off. Ouch. Listen, it's a bit easy right now maybe. Usually I like seing IdrA losing, but this time it just feels bitter. Just think the kid has been spending years of his life being a slave playing this game, and he keeps choking at every big occasion. IdrA is definitly more skilled overall that Kolll or Nony, and he loses 2 Bos in two big occasions. The point is, I believe Idra is so cocky and so unbearable because he lacks hugely self confidence. | ||
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SpaNiarD
Spain346 Posts
a very useful talent toi have | ||
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JohannesH
Finland1364 Posts
On February 15 2010 11:27 Biff The Understudy wrote: Ouch. Listen, it's a bit easy right now maybe. Usually I like seing IdrA losing, but this time it just feels bitter. Just think the kid has been spending years of his life being a slave playing this game, and he keeps choking at every big occasion. IdrA is definitly more skilled overall that Kolll or Nony, and he loses 2 Bos in two big occasions. The point is, I believe Idra is so cocky and so unbearable because he lacks hugely self confidence. More skilled? I dont know how that goes together with losing to those players, seems we got a bit different definitions of skill... | ||
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We Are Here
Australia1810 Posts
On February 15 2010 11:35 JohannesH wrote: do you think shine is more skilled than bisu or even stork?More skilled? I dont know how that goes together with losing to those players, seems we got a bit different definitions of skill... | ||
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kernl
84 Posts
On February 15 2010 11:35 JohannesH wrote: More skilled? I dont know how that goes together with losing to those players, seems we got a bit different definitions of skill... Of course he has more skill than any other foreigner. Sure he spends twice as much time practicing wheras he's not twice as good, and he talks bullshit and I hate him and I like the fact that NonY won etc etc.  But at the moment he's the favorite against any foreigner and I would bet a million that out of 1000 games he would win more than 50% against any other foreigner, and whoever wouldn't do the same is insane. Guess that makes him more skilled. | ||
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remembervhs
11 Posts
The games were overall of a very poor quality. | ||
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Toads
Canada1795 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + Cancel is own CC then GG xD | ||
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frozenkatkiller
United States168 Posts
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