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BlackYoshi
Profile Joined June 2009
United States84 Posts
February 15 2010 04:59 GMT
#421
lol at all the Idra fans trying to damage control for him. He'll be able to do that just fine without you all.


Nony hit him with a great strategy and denied him the mid to late game that his is strong point, and forced him to play out of his element. Idra is a player who depends more on his routines than being strong at adapting, and it hurt him.
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
February 15 2010 04:59 GMT
#422
On February 15 2010 11:48 remembervhs wrote:
I was extremely disapointed with idra using a 14 cc in the last set. If he's so sure that he's the better player then a 14 cc makes absolutely no sense.

The games were overall of a very poor quality.


I would say poor in a standard metagame sense, but ripe with irony.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
StarsPride
Profile Joined January 2010
United States364 Posts
February 15 2010 05:12 GMT
#423
On February 15 2010 13:59 BlackYoshi wrote:
lol at all the Idra fans trying to damage control for him. He'll be able to do that just fine without you all.


Nony hit him with a great strategy and denied him the mid to late game that his is strong point, and forced him to play out of his element. Idra is a player who depends more on his routines than being strong at adapting, and it hurt him.

Nothing he shouldn't have prepared for while using this build.
It was risky play from nony and he got very lucky imo Scouting idras base off the bat.
InfC.Pride
Daedes
Profile Joined August 2009
Bangladesh105 Posts
February 15 2010 05:18 GMT
#424
On February 15 2010 11:48 remembervhs wrote:
I was extremely disapointed with idra using a 14 cc in the last set. If he's so sure that he's the better player then a 14 cc makes absolutely no sense.

The games were overall of a very poor quality.


it wasnt rly a 14 cc...more like a modern version 14/15 cc
Insight
Profile Joined December 2009
19 Posts
February 15 2010 06:06 GMT
#425
he obviously wasn't as confident as tried to imply, you don't do risky and greedy builds if you genuinely believe you're a better player
JWD
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States12607 Posts
February 15 2010 06:13 GMT
#426
On February 15 2010 15:06 Insight wrote:
he obviously wasn't as confident as tried to imply, you don't do risky and greedy builds if you genuinely believe you're a better player

calling marine/bunker expo on a 4-player map a "risky and greedy build" is just silly, IdrA's build was safe against most rushes—just not NonY's proxy 3-gate (!!)
✌
pioneer8
Profile Joined January 2010
United States143 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-15 06:25:16
February 15 2010 06:23 GMT
#427
On February 15 2010 02:22 pioneer8 wrote:
I think Idra is very good, but his overconfidence is in itself a weakness. He's obviously uncomfortable with diverging from his strategy, and his bad manners are a reflection of that. I think Nony can upset Idra here with some Sen like early pressure in each game to ensure that Idra is unable to execute his perfect builds. I say Nony 3-2 , if he can get Idra out of his comfort zone.

GG




Called it exactly


My next prediction for the record is JF vs Mondy TSL Finals.
tinman
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States287 Posts
February 15 2010 06:30 GMT
#428
pioneer, your prediction was that Nony could win in shorter, micro-oriented games but that Idra would win longer, macro-fests?

you're like a fucking god of BW analysis.
"Politics is an extravagance, an extravagance about grievances. And poetry is an extravagance about grief. And grievances are something that can be remedied, and griefs are irremediable."
Daedes
Profile Joined August 2009
Bangladesh105 Posts
February 15 2010 06:40 GMT
#429
On February 15 2010 15:23 pioneer8 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2010 02:22 pioneer8 wrote:
I think Idra is very good, but his overconfidence is in itself a weakness. He's obviously uncomfortable with diverging from his strategy, and his bad manners are a reflection of that. I think Nony can upset Idra here with some Sen like early pressure in each game to ensure that Idra is unable to execute his perfect builds. I say Nony 3-2 , if he can get Idra out of his comfort zone.

GG




Called it exactly


My next prediction for the record is JF vs Mondy TSL Finals.


ur a genius bro
Gumbo
Profile Joined February 2009
Canada807 Posts
February 15 2010 06:44 GMT
#430
On February 15 2010 14:12 StarsPride wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2010 13:59 BlackYoshi wrote:
lol at all the Idra fans trying to damage control for him. He'll be able to do that just fine without you all.


Nony hit him with a great strategy and denied him the mid to late game that his is strong point, and forced him to play out of his element. Idra is a player who depends more on his routines than being strong at adapting, and it hurt him.

Nothing he shouldn't have prepared for while using this build.
It was risky play from nony and he got very lucky imo Scouting idras base off the bat.


What? Nony did that strategy because he scouted, if his scout went to other way, he would have went standard.
Si vis pacem, para bellum.
xellow
Profile Joined March 2009
United States15 Posts
February 15 2010 06:50 GMT
#431
Cheesing isn't looked down upon when the favorite player wins! What an elegant strategy you had there!

I'm not defending Idra, though I am a bit disappointed he lost, it's nice to see Nony back in action and it definitely makes me wonder how he'd be doing if he stuck around in Korea. Just thought it funny how different people's viewpoints are based entirely on Idra being known for BM.
muramasa
Profile Joined March 2005
Canada1299 Posts
February 15 2010 07:07 GMT
#432
Bwahahaha! I just watched the VODs.

Kudos to NoNy.
Hong Jin Ho. Nevar forget.
LxRogue
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States1415 Posts
February 15 2010 08:20 GMT
#433
I think the problem is that IdrA lacks confidence. Next time he should predict a 5-0 win.
writer22816
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States5775 Posts
February 15 2010 08:22 GMT
#434
On February 15 2010 08:30 getSome[703] wrote:
Please grant a follow-up interview Idra.


THIS.
8/4/12 never forget, never forgive.
jdr_
Profile Joined October 2009
United States78 Posts
February 15 2010 08:45 GMT
#435
Nony said it himself that he wanted to play a standard straight up game for game 5 but when he saw Idra's greedy build he realized there's no way there's anything he can do to stop early goon pressure, and he's had lots of success against that build in practice.

Idra played a bad build and got shit on for it.
"The left hand side is really going to be a bit of a nervewracking occassion" -Artosis
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
February 15 2010 09:15 GMT
#436
I love how rekrul STOLE the spotlight..

Nony fucking beat idra in a bo5 for the most prize EVER roflflflflf
Xeln4g4
Profile Joined January 2005
Italy1209 Posts
February 15 2010 10:35 GMT
#437
Nice prediction ... well done Nony
Xeln4g4
Profile Joined January 2005
Italy1209 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-15 10:37:19
February 15 2010 10:36 GMT
#438
On February 15 2010 17:22 writer22816 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2010 08:30 getSome[703] wrote:
Please grant a follow-up interview Idra.


THIS.


+

On February 15 2010 17:20 LxRogue wrote:
I think the problem is that IdrA lacks confidence. Next time he should predict a 5-0 win.


best joke ever, on Idra defeat
Biff The Understudy
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France7950 Posts
February 15 2010 10:51 GMT
#439
On February 15 2010 17:20 LxRogue wrote:
I think the problem is that IdrA lacks confidence. Next time he should predict a 5-0 win.

Being cocky and being confident are radically different things. I would ever say that people who are cocky are usually unconfident.

I think Idra's problem is his lack of confidence, despite all his effort to look very sure of himself. Confident people don't need to trash other people in public. They know that they are very good and that's enough for them.
The fellow who is out to burn things up is the counterpart of the fool who thinks he can save the world. The world needs neither to be burned up nor to be saved. The world is, we are. Transients, if we buck it; here to stay if we accept it. ~H.Miller
PoP
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
France15446 Posts
February 15 2010 12:27 GMT
#440
On February 15 2010 11:48 remembervhs wrote:
I was extremely disapointed with idra using a 14 cc in the last set. If he's so sure that he's the better player then a 14 cc makes absolutely no sense.

The games were overall of a very poor quality.


didn't he 1 rax CC?
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