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Braavos36374 Posts
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tree.hugger
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
( By the way, there are a bunch of players listed as 'ESC' ) | ||
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wo0py
Netherlands922 Posts
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Plexa
Aotearoa39261 Posts
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vanTuni
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Kaervek56
Australia273 Posts
iNfeRnaL Hwaiting! | ||
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TArujo
Portugal1687 Posts
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antiq
Slovakia191 Posts
  HoRRoR and  iNfeRnaL damnation! | ||
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Hot_Bid
Braavos36374 Posts
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asel
Germany1599 Posts
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tree.hugger
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
 iG.Casper and  mouz.Dreiven must be really battling... their first game alone was faster than the other two series. On January 11 2010 00:13 antiq wrote: All hell is loose, the thread ends with 666, oh the HoRRoR and iNfeRnaL damnation!Don't fear, TL is   iNcontroL.On January 11 2010 00:21 Hot_Bid wrote: Well, we know at least one country will be watching R3. WCG Germany... with Mondragon! | ||
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mdb
Bulgaria4059 Posts
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Plexa
Aotearoa39261 Posts
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asel
Germany1599 Posts
 (we already miss the cookietoss!) | ||
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pripple
Finland1714 Posts
mTw guys rocking the 2-0! | ||
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KrAzYfoOL
Australia3037 Posts
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Corvi
Germany1406 Posts
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Konni
Germany3044 Posts
and gogo shaman! | ||
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Sauron
Romania169 Posts
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Yizuo
Germany1537 Posts
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Coulthard
Greece3359 Posts
On January 11 2010 00:41 Corvi wrote: uhh dreiven out. sucks ... russian terrans  | ||
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littlechava
United States7218 Posts
can't wait for reps | ||
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Blue
Norway359 Posts
On January 11 2010 00:21 Hot_Bid wrote: Well, we know at least one country will be watching R3. bravoos? | ||
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Mandalor
Germany2362 Posts
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pR0gR4m3R
Spain1446 Posts
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Sadistx
Zimbabwe5568 Posts
I'm hoping it wasnt just a fluke by Dreiven, so we'll see Casper show A2-level play throughout the TSL. | ||
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Drazzzt
Germany999 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + He forgot to scout hidden T expansion in 2nd game. That hit him hard. | ||
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GiftPflanZe
Germany623 Posts
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Fzero
United States1503 Posts
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torm3ntin
Brazil2534 Posts
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ConceptX
United States19 Posts
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Floydian
United Kingdom374 Posts
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Drazzzt
Germany999 Posts
As old-schooler I'd thought you'd know how to stop a 1-gate, fast reaver rush :/ | ||
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Drazzzt
Germany999 Posts
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Skeggaba
Korea (South)1556 Posts
Putting my hope on Morrow! | ||
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ghrur
United States3786 Posts
Darnit, Kawaii gone, now Avi? LET'S GO INC! | ||
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Blue
Norway359 Posts
On January 11 2010 01:57 Drazzzt wrote: Killer was sooo hyped.... and flaf nerfed by idra -_- took game 1 tho against their beloved g5 ^^ | ||
JWD
United States12607 Posts
iNfeRnaL! Making mincemeat of that tricky group! | ||
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EvilSky
Czech Republic548 Posts
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]343[
United States10328 Posts
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IPS.Mardow.
Germany713 Posts
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Xeris
Iran17695 Posts
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haduken
Australia8267 Posts
In other news, Germany soldiers on. | ||
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Sauron
Romania169 Posts
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horang3
United States261 Posts
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Delphi
Germany88 Posts
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Welmu
Finland3295 Posts
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Plexa
Aotearoa39261 Posts
On January 11 2010 02:10 Delphi wrote: first replay of closer vs killer corrupted oo Thanks, we're uploading an alternate version of the replay EDIT: new version is in the replay thread | ||
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538
Hungary3932 Posts
noooo G5 comeback pls! | ||
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Sauron
Romania169 Posts
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citi.zen
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NiGoL
1868 Posts
same with Flaf, never thought G5 would lose to flaf :O | ||
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QuakerOats
United States1024 Posts
Although I still think he can win it. It'll just be slightly harder. | ||
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foeffa
Belgium2115 Posts
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torm3ntin
Brazil2534 Posts
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pripple
Finland1714 Posts
nobody knew this Flaf guy, he just came and won. | ||
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NiGoL
1868 Posts
no worries | ||
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NiGoL
1868 Posts
On January 11 2010 02:30 pripple wrote: oh now Closer too, all the mTw guys 2-0! nobody knew this Flaf guy, he just came and won. many knew flaf from NrT which is one of the best foreign team atm, so dont say nobody knew him lol. | ||
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Welmu
Finland3295 Posts
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DamageControL
United States4222 Posts
On January 11 2010 02:30 torm3ntin wrote: nobody gave a shit to flaf. it will be funny if he beats ret in zvz hahahha He will. | ||
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G5
United States2898 Posts
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538
Hungary3932 Posts
On January 11 2010 02:31 NiGoL wrote: many knew flaf from NrT which is one of the best foreign team atm, so dont say nobody knew him lol. Well, I think its still safe to say he was (one of) the least known player(s) of the top48, anyway. On January 11 2010 02:37 G5 wrote: i lost, shit happens. sorry to those who voted for me. he played better than me and thats just how it goes. gg's / congrats flaf. oh well, I'm glad to see you're very mannered about it. Sad thing is, that's an achievement lately. Rock on man! | ||
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Robinsa
Japan1333 Posts
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charcute
Canada419 Posts
On January 11 2010 02:37 G5 wrote: i lost, shit happens. sorry to those who voted for me. he played better than me and thats just how it goes. gg's / congrats flaf. good sportmanship G5, gg both of you | ||
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QuakerOats
United States1024 Posts
Romania wins today. | ||
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iNcontroL
USA29055 Posts
Game 2 he did a rush that I usually prepare for but was caught off guard.. still made it a semi interesting game imo.. game 2 is worth a watch. Sorry to those that were cheering for me. SHaman vs Mondragon will be nice though, 2 excellent players. The better player won today and that is how it goes! | ||
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fallingdream
Romania452 Posts
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NiGoL
1868 Posts
will be interesting tho to see shaman vs mondragon | ||
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KOFgokuon
United States14893 Posts
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Welmu
Finland3295 Posts
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tree.hugger
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
But I wanted  Avi-Love to win after his play yesterday... | ||
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EvilSky
Czech Republic548 Posts
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50bani
Romania480 Posts
Flaf was a serial racepicker on the ladder. He played ZvP TvZ PvT always trying to be on the stronger side of the matchup so he might also try to do that vs Ret. | ||
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Bifur
Russian Federation1208 Posts
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SkelA
Macedonia13032 Posts
and noooo avi !!! | ||
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PredY
Czech Republic1731 Posts
i dont think thats true, he plays pure zerg (at least on higher ranks) | ||
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kokorel
Romania11 Posts
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Pika Chu
Romania2510 Posts
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deconduo
Ireland4122 Posts
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Robinsa
Japan1333 Posts
On January 11 2010 02:58 PredY wrote: 50bani: i dont think thats true, he plays pure zerg (at least on higher ranks) Especially since picking Z is is only, still small, chance to take a bo5 against ret. I don't know how good his Z is but he will never win vs ret as T. | ||
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zergpower123
United States197 Posts
ALRIGHT RET, YOU NEED TO STEP UP AND OWN TSL2!!!!! PS. Anyone hear from Ret recently? He hasn't streamed or done anything, I'm worried about him! | ||
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pripple
Finland1714 Posts
On January 11 2010 02:31 NiGoL wrote: many knew flaf from NrT which is one of the best foreign team atm, so dont say nobody knew him lol. well i guess you're right, just every comment / vid i've seen no-one gave FlaF even a 10% chance here, which makes him winning even more amazing ;p | ||
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Altair
243 Posts
(lmao I didn't even bet on them, I'm pulling my hair out for that) | ||
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Drazzzt
Germany999 Posts
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ceaRshaf
Romania4926 Posts
![[image loading]](http://img693.imageshack.us/i/38717299.png/) This is the minimap at the end of game 1 brown is FlaF teal is G5. Awesome! . I am really happy for both FlaF and Shaman. They weren't given any credit so far. Now they get some small atention at least. If they leave the groupd will be a really upset for many. | ||
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ceaRshaf
Romania4926 Posts
http://tv.zeroboy.net/gomrebroadcast GO GO! | ||
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Sauron
Romania169 Posts
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OmgIRok
Taiwan2699 Posts
:OOOOOOOOOOOO Incontrol out and dreiven out as well as g5, many upsets here | ||
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AtlaS
United States1001 Posts
iNc Dreiven G5 All of them out. The only series left that I will support one of the players is Tarson. Though I'm considering rooting Gamtja so that my bad luck will rub off on him | ||
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lxginverse
Monaco1506 Posts
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Empyrean
16976 Posts
On January 11 2010 03:21 AtlaS wrote: everyone i rooted for today lost iNc Dreiven G5 All of them out. The only series left that I will support one of the players is Tarson. Though I'm considering rooting Gamtja so that my bad luck will rub off on him Gamtja knocked out Kawaii so I'm rooting against him | ||
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Durak
Canada3684 Posts
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SuperArc
Austria7781 Posts
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ghrur
United States3786 Posts
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AtlaS
United States1001 Posts
On January 11 2010 03:24 Empyrean wrote: Gamtja knocked out Kawaii so I'm rooting against him Same reason I'm rooting for Tarson too. That and because he's polish. I have to support my Americans and my Poles. I'm worried about ret's game. Did anyone figure out if Flaf is a TvZ or a ZvZ? | ||
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GreEny K
Germany7312 Posts
On January 11 2010 03:24 Empyrean wrote: Gamtja knocked out Kawaii so I'm rooting against him Reason I'm rooting for him. | ||
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GreEny K
Germany7312 Posts
On January 11 2010 02:37 G5 wrote: i lost, shit happens. sorry to those who voted for me. he played better than me and thats just how it goes. gg's / congrats flaf. <3 its ok, like you said in your interview, you were preparing a lot for a pvp. | ||
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kulik-
Czech Republic305 Posts
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NiGoL
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Masamune
Canada3401 Posts
 TT1  Other than that, I kinda liked the fact the underdogs did well. | ||
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Liquid`Nazgul
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AtlaS
United States1001 Posts
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QuakerOats
United States1024 Posts
On January 11 2010 03:43 kulik- wrote: succesful day for american hater Wow, it must suck to have nothing good come out of your country if you have to resort to hating another country. | ||
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Jakalo
Latvia2350 Posts
![[image loading]](http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii4/martinsslisans/DTs.jpg) Excellent zerg spellcaster usage turning the tide of game ![[image loading]](http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii4/martinsslisans/Spells.jpg) Proxy gate at 38th min. ![[image loading]](http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii4/martinsslisans/PRgate37min.jpg) Ensnared Obs and DT ![[image loading]](http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii4/martinsslisans/ensnaredDTobs.jpg) and much much more. | ||
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AtlaS
United States1001 Posts
On January 11 2010 03:51 Jakalo wrote: G5 vs Flaf g1 spoilers + Show Spoiler + G5 vs Flaf game 1 is totally awesome featuring canon rush, mass DTs Excellent zerg spellcaster usage turning the tide of game Proxy gate at 38th min. Ensnared Obs and DT and much much more. This thread is a spoiler thread. You don't have to put them in spoilers. Regardless, I was yelling at my screen when G5 had his DTs so close to one of Flaf's un-overlorded bases. MOVE NORTH G5! MOVE NORTH!!! Still a fun game. | ||
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NiGoL
1868 Posts
On January 11 2010 03:10 pripple wrote: well i guess you're right, just every comment / vid i've seen no-one gave FlaF even a 10% chance here, which makes him winning even more amazing ;p because there is some anger romanian towards the usa player, "not everyone" tho but some.. And flaf mostly plays 2v2 and 1v1 in cws, thats maybe why i guess? | ||
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50bani
Romania480 Posts
On January 11 2010 03:45 Liquid`Nazgul wrote: It is unfortunate one of Casper vs Dreiven had to lose both those guys are top foreigners and deserved a spot in TSL based on the quality of games today. By the way get someone who knows Casper to tell him to fix his supply placement under the gas. He should move it one square to the left. I can see 3 scvs, which means his mining is slower. | ||
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purgerinho
Croatia919 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + heh, everybody said flaf is no name, flaf is weak and look now!!! romanian players are crazy, shaman won against incontrol... romania > usa | ||
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Jakalo
Latvia2350 Posts
On January 11 2010 03:54 AtlaS wrote: This thread is a spoiler thread. You don't have to put them in spoilers. Regardless, I was yelling at my screen when G5 had his DTs so close to one of Flaf's un-overlorded bases. MOVE NORTH G5! MOVE NORTH!!! Still a fun game. Ah ok, removed them. But yes that was unbelievable game. Usually these kind of games takes protosses as in GGplay vs Stork | ||
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SuperArc
Austria7781 Posts
On January 11 2010 04:03 Jakalo wrote: Ah ok, removed them. But yes that was unbelievable game. Usually these kind of games takes protosses as in GGplay vs Stork G5's macro lost him the game. Flaf has progamer macro for sure | ||
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s_86
United States191 Posts
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deus_073
Romania187 Posts
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Foreplay
United States1154 Posts
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7mk
Germany10157 Posts
unlucky for ret though, damn.. it was looking so good for G5 in the beginning too | ||
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ceaRshaf
Romania4926 Posts
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Coulthard
Greece3359 Posts
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Mutalisk
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theqat
United States2856 Posts
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DivinO
United States4796 Posts
Dreiven. | ||
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Art_of_Kill
Zaire1232 Posts
On January 11 2010 04:12 ceaRshaf wrote: In game 2 on Destination in G5 vs FlaF the pandabear guy blocks the ramp at one expo and 5 lurkers and some zerlings are stuck for a couple of seconds =))). hahahahaa. Pandabear fighting! yea and once flaw attacked it it moves away was really funCASPER vs DREIVEN by far best games till now !!! the way this guy playing is so good to watch, not this usual boring crap flash build but so sad that dreiven is out :-( , russian terran are such beast, now i am even more missing A2 ... another unexpected game was incs lose to shaman | ||
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pR0gR4m3R
Spain1446 Posts
On January 11 2010 04:18 Mutalisk wrote: mikoel 1-2 xiaozi (((No... | ||
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copyleft
Romania10 Posts
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7mk
Germany10157 Posts
On January 11 2010 04:18 Mutalisk wrote: mikoel 1-2 xiaozi Yessssssssssss awesome | ||
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Megalisk
United States6095 Posts
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zer0das
United States8519 Posts
On January 11 2010 04:05 SuperArc wrote: G5's macro lost him the game. Flaf has progamer macro for sure His macro didn't lose him that game. It was the fact that he didn't kill off the two expansions in the top left when he had mass DTs and his corsairs were running wild. And then the fact that he took so long to get reavers (and he didn't have any at his most crucial expansions when the mass of ultra/ling came). | ||
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kokorel
Romania11 Posts
On January 11 2010 04:39 copyleft wrote: Flaf's lings are so badass they need two spawning pools to chill in before owning. One's for the zerling's big brother. the ultra | ||
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Beside_kr
Canada902 Posts
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chinak
Germany35 Posts
On January 11 2010 04:52 Beside_kr wrote: ok Yan, let's do this, Canada 3-0 today, you can make it happen! ghosta won ^^ | ||
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Beside_kr
Canada902 Posts
shame, there's no stopping these Germans | ||
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Wurzelbrumpft
Germany471 Posts
lol yan | ||
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vx70GTOJudgexv
United States3161 Posts
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SuperArc
Austria7781 Posts
ALL Germans qualified for R3? Sick. | ||
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chinak
Germany35 Posts
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FaCE_1
Canada6167 Posts
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Icysoul
Canada254 Posts
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kiendudu
Netherlands273 Posts
On January 11 2010 05:15 FaCE_1 wrote: any update on Yan game ?? i really want him to win but he lost 1-2 (((( | ||
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FragKrag
United States11552 Posts
Infernal advanced though. GO INFERNAL! All the germans advance again :D | ||
Insane
United States4991 Posts
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Kizlyk
Ukraine84 Posts
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[DUF]MethodMan
Germany1716 Posts
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Carnac
Germany / USA16648 Posts
kolll is still in R1, because his match was postponed | ||
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Tigi
Germany472 Posts
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Sauron
Romania169 Posts
On January 11 2010 05:33 Tigi wrote: now every german will get owned in RO3 =) Yeah I already feel sorry for Mondi | ||
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CoL_Drake
Germany455 Posts
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Straylight
Canada706 Posts
On January 11 2010 04:52 Beside_kr wrote: ok Yan, let's do this, Canada 3-0 today, you can make it happen! I'm all for supporting Canadians and whatever but Yan is a jerk. GJ Ghosta. | ||
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PhOeniX[MinD]
361 Posts
great day for Terrans | ||
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ZBiR
Poland1092 Posts
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Jakalo
Latvia2350 Posts
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CruiseR
Poland4014 Posts
I see schedule only for R1 and R2 there: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=109166 | ||
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Illusion.
United States348 Posts
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sebimilitaur
Romania2 Posts
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TT1
Canada10000 Posts
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Ganfei
Taiwan1439 Posts
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Drazzzt
Germany999 Posts
On January 11 2010 05:33 Tigi wrote: now every german will get owned in RO3 =) Somehow I was thinking the same....but i guess 1 or 2 might probably make it | ||
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zerotol
Belgium508 Posts
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iuppy
Romania31 Posts
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ondik
Czech Republic2908 Posts
Also, Gamtja was very close to winning the third set after he defended Tarson's push. He had 160 to 110 supply advantage and one base more, his terrible macro (half of gateways with queued units, half of gateways with no units + like NO rallying) cost him the game. | ||
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oBlade
United States5500 Posts
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Gonozal
Germany320 Posts
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Prof. Protoss
Germany744 Posts
edit: I want to distance myself from Gonozal. | ||
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Drazzzt
Germany999 Posts
against ultras a must, in my opinion. | ||
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Geo.Rion
7377 Posts
((also, if Flaf happens to somehow beat ret in zvz he'll become from the least known TSL player to the most hated foreigner ever :D Also i've got decent percentage with liqubetting these qualifieres, i think i missed closer, casper, flaf and ghosta adavancing | ||
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7mk
Germany10157 Posts
On January 11 2010 05:53 Straylight wrote: I'm all for supporting Canadians and whatever but Yan is a jerk. GJ Ghosta. No need to do that when you have xiaozi anyways. Wooooh Ghosta, great fucking job. Jesus game 1 and 3 were some convincing wins, especially game 3 where yan for once tried to play completely standard... man that was sexy to see him destroy yan's whole army so fast without using siege. | ||
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meeple
Canada10211 Posts
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Mooncat
Germany1228 Posts
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Zozma
United States1626 Posts
On January 11 2010 06:56 Mooncat wrote: you not gonna be laughing when idra wins the tournament sonNice. So far every German advanced while every American was eliminated. | ||
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charcute
Canada419 Posts
On January 11 2010 07:11 Zozma wrote: you not gonna be laughing when idra wins the tournament son I agree | ||
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horang3
United States261 Posts
I am disappoint, though. | ||
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Mooncat
Germany1228 Posts
On January 11 2010 07:11 Zozma wrote: you not gonna be laughing when idra wins the tournament son First of all, I'm not laughing, I'm just happy As to the matter of Idra, I don't think he even belongs into this tournament because a) he's in a motherfucking Korean pro team and b) he should be excluded from every tournament for his unprofessional and disrespectful behavior towards other players. | ||
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Jaeden
Romania1489 Posts
On January 11 2010 00:21 Hot_Bid wrote: Well, we know at least one country will be watching R3. of course | ||
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7mk
Germany10157 Posts
(if they arent already ^^) | ||
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Deleted User 3420
24492 Posts
On January 11 2010 07:24 Mooncat wrote: First of all, I'm not laughing, I'm just happy As to the matter of Idra, I don't think he even belongs into this tournament because a) he's in a motherfucking Korean pro team and b) he should be excluded from every tournament for his unprofessional and disrespectful behavior towards other players.hope u arent srs | ||
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Jaeden
Romania1489 Posts
well, he's like that for some time now.. | ||
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copyleft
Romania10 Posts
On January 11 2010 07:23 horang3 wrote: lol at romanians with 10 posts showing up to trash talk. I am disappoint, though. Well that's what you get for overhyping your players, I bet it tastes bitter now. But nice of inc and G5 to be so well mannered about everything, I would have expected at least some sarcasm, if not BM. | ||
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Flopgun
Germany274 Posts
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kiendudu
Netherlands273 Posts
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Boblion
France8043 Posts
On January 11 2010 02:45 {88}iNcontroL wrote: Game 2 he did a rush that I usually prepare for but was caught off guard.. still made it a semi interesting game imo.. game 2 is worth a watch. ! Yea i really liked how you managed to stay in the game whereas his rush really hurt you. Really smart use of low eco lurkerling. Anyway i haven't watched everything but: - TT1 made a sexy one base goon reav push game1 <3 - XiaOzI game 1 is HORRIBLE. I almost thought he the replay was corrupted. 4K+ during almost the whole game. Abysmal performance even if he won the serie. -Yan is a typical protoss player. - The G5 games are quite good. Esnare vs Hallu was pimp. - Infernal PvZ seems really strong. Kinda sad for Dreiven ( havent watched his games yet ), InC and Kenzy :o | ||
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yarkO
Canada810 Posts
kabal fighting! | ||
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El Resplandor
United States187 Posts
avi | ||
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7mk
Germany10157 Posts
On January 11 2010 07:33 copyleft wrote: Well that's what you get for overhyping your players, I bet it tastes bitter now. But nice of inc and G5 to be so well mannered about everything, I would have expected at least some sarcasm, if not BM. Look, it's only natural to praise someone when you are friends with a player, that you've played a ton with, a player whose strengths you've all seen lots and lots of times. They've seen tons of games of them, you might only have seen games from them for the first time now. Also, ret is not American, he still talked about how great players like nyoken are, surely that's not blind patriotism then, is it. Oh and, another player they hyped up a lot: Infernal. Why? Because they know him well and know that he's capable of much more than what he's showed in the past when it mattered. Can't just be Americans hyping players up just cause they're American. Oh and LOL Boblion Yan is a typical protoss player. haha | ||
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s.a.y
Croatia3840 Posts
castro has some damn swarm usage and micro. Yan is a cheesy fucker. i loled how he lost 50 supply when recalling into a minefield incontrol manner, good games vs shaman. that guy remined me of boxer when he went overlord hunting. good preparation. also, germans owning :O | ||
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XsebT
Denmark2980 Posts
and avi, you could've won g2 by owning that single canon so easily with your 9pool speed... :S Well, shit happens... grats to all the winners! Btw, gl to ret on his upcoming zvz... hope you've been practicing. :D | ||
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El Resplandor
United States187 Posts
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sassy
240 Posts
tt1 with clean well executed builds looked solid too, this is his best game probably have to mention ghosta, he played super safe and still managed to outplay yan everywhere the rest didnt look as good as these 3, maybe because of their matchups | ||
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TT1
Canada10000 Posts
pat's games looked solid.. apart for 1 small macro slip in game 2 he played really well | ||
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InToTheWannaB
United States4770 Posts
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copyleft
Romania10 Posts
On January 11 2010 07:56 7mk wrote: Look, it's only natural to praise someone when you are friends with a player, that you've played a ton with, a player whose strengths you've all seen lots and lots of times. They've seen tons of games of them, you might only have seen games from them for the first time now. Also, ret is not American, he still talked about how great players like nyoken are, surely that's not blind patriotism then, is it. Oh and, another player they hyped up a lot: Infernal. Why? Because they know him well and know that he's capable of much more than what he's showed in the past when it mattered. Can't just be Americans hyping players up just cause they're American. While what you say is mostly true, the SC "media" went farther than just saying that they are good players, which indeed they are, no one said otherwise. They said that, since they don't know Flaf and almost never heard of him he must be a worse player than G5 and will surely lose. I find it hard to imagine how any person can make such a statement, without knowing what each side is capable off. If that isn't blind patriotism I don't know what is. | ||
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T.Sqd)LillTT
Lithuania149 Posts
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iNviSible.yunO
Germany211 Posts
Kolll of course)!even HoRRoR! and GhosTa did a great job defeating  Yan, even though he lost the second game, which was completely unnecessary. i mean he scouted the cheese almost instantly - and then...? trying to defend 2gate zealots with 1 marine and 1 scv repairing the depot...?!? i dont get it.and CloseR... winning the first zvz with guardians and devourers! epic 8) | ||
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Drazzzt
Germany999 Posts
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Xxio
Canada5565 Posts
I definitely recommend that game, it's 50 minutes | ||
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ruXxar
Norway5669 Posts
 MikOeL vs XiaOzI was really impressive. Game 1 and Game 3 are were the best.I really liked MikOeL's playstyle. Very aggressive in TvZ, lots of harass, and great decision making. Unfortunately he slipped up on the lurkers attacking his nat in game 3 which was a gamebreaker for him.I expect great things from him in the Future. | ||
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Drazzzt
Germany999 Posts
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Zozma
United States1626 Posts
On January 11 2010 08:27 Xxio wrote: Yeah, FlaF is pretty badass I guess.Just watched Flaf vs. G5 game 1. Flaf has amazing macro, he is definitely for real. He plays really well lategame, which says alot, though he did have a shaky start. I definitely recommend that game, it's 50 minutes | ||
FakeSteve[TPR]
Valhalla18444 Posts
booya infernal!!! | ||
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Prof. Protoss
Germany744 Posts
On January 11 2010 07:24 Mooncat wrote: First of all, I'm not laughing, I'm just happy As to the matter of Idra, I don't think he even belongs into this tournament because a) he's in a motherfucking Korean pro team and b) he should be excluded from every tournament for his unprofessional and disrespectful behavior towards other players.I agree with a) but b) is pretty stupid. Let's just hope another german will pull a kolll. Maybe kolll himself | ||
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StylishVODs
Sweden5331 Posts
On January 11 2010 08:17 InToTheWannaB wrote: fuck TSL2 is like WCG germany lol. I feel bad for Inc thats some gay shit to get knocked out of the TSL by lol. Whats the correct way to stop that anyway? Just throw down like 4 sunkens and hope they finish? basically you just need 2 sunks up in time... its almost the roflstrat!! ROFL STRAT | ||
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Vernom
Spain374 Posts
On January 11 2010 08:31 ruXxar wrote: MikOeL vs XiaOzI was really impressive. Game 1 and Game 3 are were the best.I really liked MikOeL's playstyle. Very aggressive in TvZ, lots of harass, and great decision making. Unfortunately he slipped up on the lurkers attacking his nat in game 3 which was a gamebreaker for him.I expect great things from him in the Future.their games werent agressive, he plays a boring style where he leaves his base when he has many units what ever, he makes good decisions and that gave him the victory vs arew and almost vs xiaozi | ||
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EpiK
Korea (South)5757 Posts
I'm surprised by group g's results. I was sure dreiven would definitely make it out of that group | ||
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Cambium
United States16368 Posts
G5 Inc AviGJ to everyone who qualified! I really want to see how Yan played against Ghosta, I've never seen a single game of his 1v1 | ||
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SchOOl_VicTIm
Greece2394 Posts
On January 11 2010 09:10 Cambium wrote: G5 Inc AviGJ to everyone who qualified! I really want to see how Yan played against Ghosta, I've never seen a single game of his 1v1 You'll be pretty dissapointed lol | ||
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iNfeRnaL
Germany1908 Posts
On January 11 2010 08:25 Drazzzt wrote: infernal, in game 2 i wondered, if you didnt +1 on purpose or if you forgot/misclicked. I think this could have cost u the games. Grats for winning anyways The 1-0 rush is 30 seconds later than the push without 1-0, however it is a lot more powerful, obviously. When I noticed Hayder took his third base so close to me knowing he had my usual timing in mind (+1 build - I use this one in practice 24/7) I decided to edge it out with those extra 30 seconds and it worked perfectly. In fact not making the 1-0 asap won me the game right there because Hayder's timing was just waaay off - he just started to make a sunken when my zealots arrived. Thanks everyone for the support & nice words, I will try my best to keep playing like my usual self and not like the nervous pussy I sometimes transform into. However, I was a lot more at ease today when it comes to the nerves, I guess winning yesterday and the fact that I know Hayder really really well made me stay calmer as usual today. | ||
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tree.hugger
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
Race Distribution: 11 Terran 8 Protoss 9 Zerg Country Distribution: 5 (+1?) Germany 4 Poland 3 Canada 2 USA 2 Romania 2 Ukraine 2 Russia 2 Peru 1 (+1?) Sweeden 1 Mexico 1 Taiwan 1 Hungary 1 Netherlands (+1?) Macedonia Clan Distribution 6 (+7?) mouz. 3 iG. 3 mTw. 2 (+3?) ToT) 2 RoX.KIS 2 [Pan] 1 DuskBin. 1 Liquid' 1 NrT. 1 [Media] 1 eX-v1o) (+1?) LRM) 4 Unaffiliated *** Thoughts: - It pains me to pick between Tarson and  Sziky, because I was rooting for both of them in the ladder. Awesome games is the only answer. - Wow, iG.Casper. I'd love to see him make 16. -  Shaman too. These two are my favorite new surprises. - As much of a macro beast NrT.FlaF is, it'll be a huge disappointment if  Ret doesn't qualify. - Pulling for iNfeRnaL too. Awesome first two rounds..! | ||
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PhilGood2DaY
Germany7424 Posts
1) Even though Gamtja didnt make it to the R3 he deserves more credit than he gets. He is not that bad as people talk him. Everyone should watch YAN's first game vs Ghosta. Its just ridicolous what he plays. His strategy is so stupid and bad. I fail words to describe it but I never saw a 1v1 replay of this guy but its just beyond me how he could get A- or even A ( !? ) 2) Ghosta is much better than I thought. Very solid player.. 3) Infernal is so good. If he can keep this up and not choke.. His PvZ is so good.. Not saying haypro played as amazing as a zerg can but when watching infernals PvZ u get that '' u see it coming but can do jack shit about it '' feeling.. stunning 4) Shamans old school play reminded me of iloveoov time.. 2 rax pumping around 7 rines expanding and then timing attacks.. pretty neat I wonder what would have happened if incontrol played ''normal'' / modern strategies. He tried to adapt which maybe was a mistake but dunno really.. 5) This flaf guy is for real. His ZvP seems to be pretty damn good. Actually its kinda sad he has to face ret cause I dont know anything bout his ZvT whereas rets is pretty awesome.. ZvZ is just a cruel match up imo.. but I think his ZvP isnt lightyears away from rets tbh.. 6) Mikoels TvP is pretty awesome.. I mean watch his games.. This guys a TvP beast I wonder when kollls games will be played.. | ||
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sassy
240 Posts
On January 11 2010 08:13 iamtt1 wrote: i actually played really sloppy pat's games looked solid.. apart for 1 small macro slip in game 2 he played really well yea i meant to say this is what you do best, not that it was your best set of games still you looked clean and solid even though it might've felt sloppy to you, i liked how your style differs from other p's in this. You can actually pull off those cool bo's mikoel had impressive tvp i agree, he shouldve passed xiaozi too if he scouted better | ||
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Kerl
Germany74 Posts
This guy has no micro, no macro and is only using silly all-inisch builds every Game... But i like him as a Person :D | ||
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PhilGood2DaY
Germany7424 Posts
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7mk
Germany10157 Posts
On January 11 2010 08:19 copyleft wrote: While what you say is mostly true, the SC "media" went farther than just saying that they are good players, which indeed they are, no one said otherwise. They said that, since they don't know Flaf and almost never heard of him he must be a worse player than G5 and will surely lose. I find it hard to imagine how any person can make such a statement, without knowing what each side is capable off. If that isn't blind patriotism I don't know what is. Look, if someone is a top starcraft player, the most logical thing to do is to particiapte in starcraft tournaments and get some success and money or whatever with it. Another logical thing is if youre a top player and wanna improve, to play games with other top foreigners to practice. If someone inside the scene like idra/ret don't even know who the person is, then it's just not very likely he is that good, or he might just be a newcomer whos gotten good real fast (but will lack experience). That someone is really REALLY good, has been for a while and is still unknown is simply pretty rare. It's just common sense to assume he wont be that good, that doesn't mean that you can't be wrong But jesus, maybe this wasn't clear from my last post since I didn't actually spell it out: IT CANNOT BE PATRIOTISM IF YOU HYPE UP SOMEONE WHO IS FROM A DIFFERENT COUNTRY (hint: Netherlands is not the same as USA) On January 11 2010 08:23 T.Sqd)LillTT wrote: Flaf an upset ? I was posting from the start that flaf will win both cloud or g5 who ever goes through r1 you just overestimate known nicknames -.-; just stick to hyping korean games cz some of you have no knowledge of the foreign scene whatsoever -.-; 90% of the games i predicted came to happen tho flaf and shaman wont pass imho through r3 castro might tho -.-; Wow you're awesome, can I be your fan? | ||
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iNviSible.yunO
Germany211 Posts
I wonder when kollls games will be played.. they will play monday, the 11th. Kolll <vs>  Naugrim seems really unpredictable to me. both players are beasts. who do you think has the better zvz? | ||
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Try
United States1293 Posts
On January 11 2010 09:49 7mk wrote: Look, if someone is a top starcraft player, the most logical thing to do is to particiapte in starcraft tournaments and get some success and money or whatever with it. Another logical thing is if youre a top player and wanna improve, to play games with other top foreigners to practice. If someone inside the scene like idra/ret don't even know who the person is, then it's just not very likely he is that good, or he might just be a newcomer whos gotten good real fast (but will lack experience). That someone is really REALLY good, has been for a while and is still unknown is simply pretty rare. It's just common sense to assume he wont be that good, that doesn't mean that you can't be wrong But jesus, maybe this wasn't clear from my last post since I didn't actually spell it out: IT CANNOT BE PATRIOTISM IF YOU HYPE UP SOMEONE WHO IS FROM A DIFFERENT COUNTRY (hint: Netherlands is not the same as USA) Wow you're awesome, can I be your fan? But blind, sweeping flames and sarcasm toward Romanians and ret saying "I just can't see myself losing to a guy named Flaf" is just unnecessary. | ||
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Silentness
United States2821 Posts
On January 11 2010 09:19 MaGic~PhiL wrote: A few observations: I fail words to describe it but I never saw a 1v1 replay of this guy but its just beyond me how he could get A- or even A ( !? ) He plays toss... + Show Spoiler + I KID I KID! Nah but game 2 was pretty standard cheese he used against ghosta | ||
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copyleft
Romania10 Posts
On January 11 2010 09:49 7mk wrote: Look, if someone is a top starcraft player, the most logical thing to do is to particiapte in starcraft tournaments and get some success and money or whatever with it. Yeah because everyone who is half decent at this game plays it for money and success... You do know most people play games for fun, right? On January 11 2010 09:49 7mk wrote: Another logical thing is if youre a top player and wanna improve, to play games with other top foreigners to practice. There are plenty of koreans on iCCup to play with, you don't have to hop the foreigner bandwagon to practice. Not everyone dodges koreans, you know. On January 11 2010 09:49 7mk wrote: If someone inside the scene like idra/ret don't even know who the person is, then it's just not very likely he is that good, or he might just be a newcomer whos gotten good real fast (but will lack experience). That someone is really REALLY good, has been for a while and is still unknown is simply pretty rare. It's just common sense to assume he wont be that good, that doesn't mean that you can't be wrong. This kind of thinking is what made idra lose to koll at WCG, G5 lose to flaf, and we've seen plenty other upsets in this TSL, very rare indeed. I actually don't mind it, the more those people act like this the more surprises there will be, also we get to see more pearls of wisdom from idra before he DOESN'T gg out. On January 11 2010 09:49 7mk wrote: But jesus, maybe this wasn't clear from my last post since I didn't actually spell it out: IT CANNOT BE PATRIOTISM IF YOU HYPE UP SOMEONE WHO IS FROM A DIFFERENT COUNTRY (hint: Netherlands is not the same as USA) Remind me again, how did ret get to korea? Oh wait, I remember he got invited thanks to Artosis (and ret's skill of course). I'll let you guess Artosis' nationality, since you seem that good at sarcasm. I'll let you also guess in whose apartment ret is living nowadays also, I'm THAT kind. Ret is not biased towards Americans at all, not the least bit... | ||
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Drazzzt
Germany999 Posts
On January 11 2010 09:15 iNfeRnaL wrote: The 1-0 rush is 30 seconds later than the push without 1-0, however it is a lot more powerful, obviously. When I noticed Hayder took his third base so close to me knowing he had my usual timing in mind (+1 build - I use this one in practice 24/7) I decided to edge it out with those extra 30 seconds and it worked perfectly. In fact not making the 1-0 asap won me the game right there because Hayder's timing was just waaay off - he just started to make a sunken when my zealots arrived. Thanks everyone for the support & nice words, I will try my best to keep playing like my usual self and not like the nervous pussy I sometimes transform into. However, I was a lot more at ease today when it comes to the nerves, I guess winning yesterday and the fact that I know Hayder really really well made me stay calmer as usual today. Ok, thx for your answer and for giving this insight. GL for next round | ||
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FlameSworD
United States414 Posts
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LucasWoJ
United States936 Posts
On January 11 2010 10:44 copyleft wrote: Yeah because everyone who is half decent at this game plays it for money and success... You do know most people play games for fun, right? There are plenty of koreans on iCCup to play with, you don't have to hop the foreigner bandwagon to practice. Not everyone dodges koreans, you know. This kind of thinking is what made idra lose to koll at WCG, G5 lose to flaf, and we've seen plenty other upsets in this TSL, very rare indeed. I actually don't mind it, the more those people act like this the more surprises there will be, also we get to see more pearls of wisdom from idra before he DOESN'T gg out. Remind me again, how did ret get to korea? Oh wait, I remember he got invited thanks to Artosis (and ret's skill of course). I'll let you guess Artosis' nationality, since you seem that good at sarcasm. I'll let you also guess in whose apartment ret is living nowadays also, I'm THAT kind. Ret is not biased towards Americans at all, not the least bit... I think you misinterpretted what he was responding to. You said "Well that's what you get for overhyping your players, I bet it tastes bitter now. But nice of inc and G5 to be so well mannered about everything, I would have expected at least some sarcasm, if not BM." And you're saying that to an American. Just to remind you, you used "you're" so you're referring to a collective body. This body is "Americans" in general. He responded to your argument based off of what you said, so your response doesn't make much sense. Ret "over hyped" Americans despite not being a member of the collective group you're dismissing as "Americans." Also, singling out two Americans (G5 and inc) and saying you expected a negative reaction from them makes it seem as if you're profiling people based on their nationality, which is not the right way to post around here. ----------------- In any event, I'm really glad to hear your thoughts on the second game, infernal. I was watching and thought "oh noes! he forgot his +1 and seems to be going for a zeal timing attack. this can't go well" That it was intentionally done makes it an even more amazing game. | ||
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dukethegold
Canada5645 Posts
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citi.zen
2509 Posts
On December 16 2009 12:22 {88}iNcontroL wrote: Could but won't. His ZvZ is bad and he won't get past whichever P comes from the round before him. Mark my words. On December 16 2009 12:28 IdrA wrote: random guy from romania wont make it past g5 cloud and ret really laying it on the line there huh geoff On topic: the surprising results in R2 for me are Avi losing 0-2 and Drieven beiung knocked out. Either way looking forward to more great games & drama :-) | ||
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edahl
Norway483 Posts
GG! | ||
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copyleft
Romania10 Posts
On January 11 2010 11:09 LucasWoJ wrote: Also, singling out two Americans (G5 and inc) and saying you expected a negative reaction from them makes it seem as if you're profiling people based on their nationality, which is not the right way to post around here. Well it's hard not to think of you guys as bad mannered when I hear Artosis saying "If i don't know you, you don't exist" or something along those lines, not to mention IdrA's comments and remarks left and right. If the two people with the most coverage act like this, and you support them for the most part, it's logical to assume the vast majority acts like this, right? I'd like to end it here, no point starting another x vs Americans debate, but as a reminder it was a user with an US tag that started the whole nationality thing, that's when I felt compelled to reply. + Show Spoiler + On January 11 2010 07:23 horang3 wrote: lol at romanians with 10 posts showing up to trash talk. I am disappoint, though. | ||
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kroko
Finland2136 Posts
I was surprised of the lack of cheese, considering theres money on the line. Also I cant belive Yan won that game2 where ghosta even scouted his proxys... omg.. Yan is really much better player then these results show. | ||
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FragKrag
United States11552 Posts
On January 11 2010 07:36 Flopgun wrote: germany fighting awesome gif | ||
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Xeris
Iran17695 Posts
On January 11 2010 09:18 tree.hugger wrote: R3 Stats Race Distribution: 11 Terran 8 Protoss 9 Zerg Country Distribution: 5 (+1?) Germany 4 Poland 3 Canada 2 USA 2 Romania 2 Ukraine 2 Russia 2 Peru 1 (+1?) Sweeden 1 Mexico 1 Taiwan 1 Hungary 1 Netherlands (+1?) Macedonia Clan Distribution 6 (+7?) mouz. 3 iG. 3 mTw. 2 (+3?) ToT) 2 RoX.KIS 2 [Pan] 1 DuskBin. 1 Liquid' 1 NrT. 1 [Media] 1 eX-v1o) (+1?) LRM) 4 Unaffiliated *** Thoughts: - It pains me to pick between Tarson and Sziky, because I was rooting for both of them in the ladder. Awesome games is the only answer. - Wow, iG.Casper. I'd love to see him make 16. - Shaman too. These two are my favorite new surprises. - As much of a macro beast NrT.FlaF is, it'll be a huge disappointment if Ret doesn't qualify. - Pulling for iNfeRnaL too. Awesome first two rounds..! what 2 usa players and what 3 canadians? 2 canada (tt1 and xiaozi) , and 1 usa (nony) | ||
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LTT
Shakuras1095 Posts
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alphafuzard
United States1610 Posts
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QuakerOats
United States1024 Posts
Idra fighting! | ||
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Bill Murray
United States9292 Posts
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NonY
8748 Posts
On January 11 2010 12:51 Bill Murray wrote: it's ok, an american will win definitely | ||
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Gitgit
37 Posts
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Ohjay
Germany83 Posts
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alphafuzard
United States1610 Posts
i love ghosta's play, textbook stuff shaman is an oldschool baller, i hope to see lots more of his games infernal is a beast xiaozi looked a little sloppy, but he made it through horror rolled kenzy, but the games were very meh flaf looked great after a rough start, too bad he has to play ret next and huge respect to inc for being so gm | ||
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Biochemist
United States1008 Posts
edit: 1st game | ||
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citi.zen
2509 Posts
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minus_human
4784 Posts
and for those who don't know him, Flaf is a pretty cool kid | ||
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[GiTM]-Ace
United States4935 Posts
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Mooncat
Germany1228 Posts
On January 11 2010 08:50 Prof. Protoss wrote: .I agree with a) but b) is pretty stupid. Let's just hope another german will pull a kolll. Maybe kolll himself Why is b) so stupid in your opinion? In every other sports such behavior is punished up to the point where you're just kicked out. Even Starcraft itself works like that in Korea. If you suddenly start trashtalking during a game you're disqualified(but then again, you're also disqualified for accidental typing...) and if you get disqualified every other game, even if you had lost anyways, you get kicked out of your team at some point because it's just bad for its reputation. But the lack of punishment for BM & extremely disrespectful/offensive behavior in the SC foreigner scene has already been discussed in abundance so let's keep this as short as possible. | ||
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Maenander
Germany4926 Posts
on topic: Shaman vs Incontrol was amazing, but the result hardly surprising | ||
zatic
Zurich15325 Posts
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Myrkul
Croatia132 Posts
On January 11 2010 04:12 ceaRshaf wrote: In game 2 on Destination in G5 vs FlaF the pandabear guy blocks the ramp at one expo and 5 lurkers and some zerlings are stuck for a couple of seconds =))). hahahahaa. Pandabear fighting! very wise of flaf not killing the pandabearguy, we know what happens when you do that.... that probably saved him the series lol, how the fuck do you not kill a random critter with 4 lurkers and some lings a-moving into it? haha he managed to get it to half heatlh and then it ran away, good job flaf:D | ||
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ceaRshaf
Romania4926 Posts
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seppolevne
Canada1681 Posts
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LuMiX
China5757 Posts
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ceaRshaf
Romania4926 Posts
G1p1 G1p2 G2p1 G2p2 | ||
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NiGoL
1868 Posts
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Boblion
France8043 Posts
On January 11 2010 08:31 ruXxar wrote: MikOeL vs XiaOzI was really impressive. Game 1 and Game 3 are were the best.It is probably the worst serie with Horror vs Kenzy and Game 1 is just atrocious. | ||
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purgerinho
Croatia919 Posts
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Prof. Protoss
Germany744 Posts
On January 11 2010 22:01 purgerinho wrote: when will koll play naugrim? today I think | ||
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PredY
Czech Republic1731 Posts
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Promises
Netherlands1821 Posts
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RowdierBob
Australia13004 Posts
Xiaozi's game on Outsider was awful. Dunno what he was doing for most of it. Ghosta looked really strong. Maybe a bit of a dark horse? Anyone know what his other MUs are like? Haypro was frustrating in game one. He started so well but his lurk use let him down imo. GL in next round all. | ||
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NiGoL
1868 Posts
On January 11 2010 22:01 purgerinho wrote: when will koll play naugrim? in about 50 minutes http://www.gosugamers.net/starcraft/gosubet/66738 the bet with them | ||
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PhilGood2DaY
Germany7424 Posts
today after their games ?? any1 knows ? | ||
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Djin)ftw(
Germany3357 Posts
he is like the prototype of the cheesy low apm toss. how the hell did this guy get A-? i mean, in 2on2 ok, he is one of the best. but in 1on1? did he like proxy 2 gate all the time? dreiven casper was awesome and props to incontrol for wishing shaman gl for the next round. i had a tear in my eye when i saw that <3 €: gl everyone for round 3 | ||
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StylishVODs
Sweden5331 Posts
i think he won't show up, he's not been active the last month or so... | ||
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NiGoL
1868 Posts
On January 12 2010 00:15 StylishVODs wrote: lol, but where is naugrim, haven't seen him for like 2 weeks. i think he won't show up, he's not been active the last month or so... lol are you serious? ;D call him? T_T | ||
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StylishVODs
Sweden5331 Posts
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PredY
Czech Republic1731 Posts
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NiGoL
1868 Posts
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Pulimuli
Sweden2766 Posts
On January 12 2010 00:35 NiGoL wrote: Ok then it should be ok? I guess? or Stylish is just making this up to scare us ;D i havent seen him either in 2-ish weeks, i know he was away recently | ||
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grobo
Japan6199 Posts
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yenta
Poland1142 Posts
OctZerg and Kolll playign now | ||
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kiendudu
Netherlands273 Posts
On January 12 2010 02:48 yenta wrote: Naugrim got w/o'ed 2-0 OctZerg and Kolll playign now thanks for your information, please inform the other result as well | ||
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StylishVODs
Sweden5331 Posts
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NiGoL
1868 Posts
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Heinstein
Denmark15 Posts
Kolll 1-1 Oct so far. Edit: Kolll won 2-1 | ||
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kiendudu
Netherlands273 Posts
kolll won finally | ||
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SuperArc
Austria7781 Posts
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ceaRshaf
Romania4926 Posts
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Drazzzt
Germany999 Posts
On January 12 2010 03:16 Heinstein wrote: Naugrim was in channel. He showed up 21 min too late and then wen't afk to eat for 10 min and returned 30 min later to a WO. Kolll 1-1 Oct so far. Edit: Kolll won 2-1 Wow. didn't expect that. thats great. | ||
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arsone
Germany6 Posts
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SkelA
Macedonia13032 Posts
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7mk
Germany10157 Posts
But Ghosta, Closer and Horror will have to fight against imo 3/4 best players in the R3 though ... will be hard as hell. | ||
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dnosrc
Germany454 Posts
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raga4ka
Bulgaria5679 Posts
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NiGoL
1868 Posts
morrow i just like him so i hope he does it well i want naugrim to go top5 cause hes swedish tho but i think someone in these groups will surprise us very much so i hope for much drama, or iknow it will be | ||
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ConceptX
United States19 Posts
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Jonoman92
United States9103 Posts
Also sad to see G5 fall to Flaf, I didn't see that coming. | ||
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ceaRshaf
Romania4926 Posts
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Pure.Freedom
United States114 Posts
And im glad XiaOzI pulled out his match after losing the first game... i feel like he'll beat kogeT Unfortunate incontrol lost so we dont get to see incontrol vs. mondragon Loved the first two rounds... ready for R3! | ||
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infinity2k9
United Kingdom2397 Posts
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