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FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-16 23:03:41
December 16 2009 23:03 GMT
#181
nyoken/g5 fighting! incontrol NOT fighting
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
December 17 2009 00:00 GMT
#182
^_^
LorDo
Profile Joined December 2008
Sweden485 Posts
December 17 2009 00:14 GMT
#183
+ Show Spoiler +
On December 16 2009 22:13 iG.SwOrD wrote:
Nemu will beat everyone in his group.

Nemu versus Horror (60% - 40%)
Nemu in his current shape can take out Horror without any doubt. It's just people got no idea how good Nemu really is and got no idea of his level of play.

Nemu versus KenZy (70% - 30%)
Nemu will beat him easily. KenZy is a player who relys a lot on surprises and when he fails in his first attack hes dead.

Nemu versus NonY (70% - 30%)
NonY was in Korea for some months? He have played with professional players and have learnt a thing or two. Yeah but who cares? He is currently a washed up player who isnt taking this game seriously anymore and is only coming back for TSL. Who is Nemu? A guy who can trash every foreigner protoss out there. He have beaten recently people like White-Ra fairly easy so facts speak enough.

Nemu versus IdrA (25% - 75%)
IdrA is the favourite but as every favourite he is beatable. I dont like using words as impossible but Nemus chances of taking out IdrA in a bo5 are very low. Still he can win at least one game and not lose with a zero score.

*thoughts*
NonY got no chance in beating IdrA at the moment. It's pretty obvious to me that NonY will have to play a bo5 with the player who passes first two rounds. If Nemu passes Horror (who is the biggest threat in my eyes) he is gonna win the group.

Technics versus Incontrol ( 60% - 40%)

Lets say i know how good can Technics perform and how good Incontrol actualy is. Incontrol have never been a top player just a good player who can win most people (not everyone) Technics shows some level of activity last few months so hes the favourite in my eyes.

Technics versus Shaman ( 60% - 40%)

Shaman is overrated. Its really nessasery to state that first. Im not saying Technics is something special but hes one level above Shaman.

Technics versus Mondragon (30% - 70%)
It's Mondragon. Still its a ZvZ and Technics can win only by having a better bo so he have some chances.

*thoughts*
Technics will lose to Mondragon in round 3.



LorDo versus IdrA (99% - 1%)
IdrA is a korean progamer, so he is bound to be pretty good. However I have played many games with LorDo, he is good. He actually held on to D last season. Therefore I think IdrA has no shot. He might win one game with cheese, no more. It's not an impossible scenario for IdrA but LorDo is so underrated.

My girlfriend versus IdrA (50% - 50%)
My girlfriend has seen me play many times, I have even explained about the three races. But as stated before IdrA is no scrub. He definitely has a chance. His macro is good. My GF is bound to have at least 30 apm when trying hard, plus she's a good cook (very useful talent toi have) So she should have a fair chance!
emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
December 17 2009 00:18 GMT
#184
Aw man Drone is in the group with White-ra ):

Looking for a strong turn out from Canada, Go Canucks!!
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Fzero
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States1503 Posts
December 17 2009 01:20 GMT
#185
I'll be surprised if the final contains any players not listed below:

(P)(ca)IefNaij
(P)(pl)Draco
(T)(ru)BRAT_OK
(T)(us)IdrA

(P)(us)NonY (Z)(bg)NeMu
(T)(se)MorroW (Z)(de)Kolll
(P)(pl)MaNa (Z)(pe)CaStrO
(T)(ua)Strelok
(P)(ua)White-Ra
(Z)(nl)Ret (P)(it)ClouD
(T)(pe)Fenix (P)(pl)Dreiven
(Z)(hu)Sziky (T)(pl)Tarson
(Z)(ca)XiaOzI (P)(lt)Arew
(Z)(de)Mondragon
(Z)(tw)SEn
(T)(mx)GosI[Terran] (Z)(se)HayprO

Players I wish had easier groups:
(Z)(no)Liquid`Drone
(P)(us)G5
(Z)(se)Naugrim
(P)(ca)TT1
(T)(us)Nyoken
(P)(de)iNfeRnaL

I'm probably not putting enough zergs in the final 16 based on recent performances, but then again foreign tournaments never follow trends.
Never give up on something that you can't go a day without thinking about.
JWD
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States12607 Posts
December 17 2009 01:29 GMT
#186
On December 17 2009 09:14 LorDo wrote:
Show nested quote +
+ Show Spoiler +
On December 16 2009 22:13 iG.SwOrD wrote:
Nemu will beat everyone in his group.

Nemu versus Horror (60% - 40%)
Nemu in his current shape can take out Horror without any doubt. It's just people got no idea how good Nemu really is and got no idea of his level of play.

Nemu versus KenZy (70% - 30%)
Nemu will beat him easily. KenZy is a player who relys a lot on surprises and when he fails in his first attack hes dead.

Nemu versus NonY (70% - 30%)
NonY was in Korea for some months? He have played with professional players and have learnt a thing or two. Yeah but who cares? He is currently a washed up player who isnt taking this game seriously anymore and is only coming back for TSL. Who is Nemu? A guy who can trash every foreigner protoss out there. He have beaten recently people like White-Ra fairly easy so facts speak enough.

Nemu versus IdrA (25% - 75%)
IdrA is the favourite but as every favourite he is beatable. I dont like using words as impossible but Nemus chances of taking out IdrA in a bo5 are very low. Still he can win at least one game and not lose with a zero score.

*thoughts*
NonY got no chance in beating IdrA at the moment. It's pretty obvious to me that NonY will have to play a bo5 with the player who passes first two rounds. If Nemu passes Horror (who is the biggest threat in my eyes) he is gonna win the group.

Technics versus Incontrol ( 60% - 40%)

Lets say i know how good can Technics perform and how good Incontrol actualy is. Incontrol have never been a top player just a good player who can win most people (not everyone) Technics shows some level of activity last few months so hes the favourite in my eyes.

Technics versus Shaman ( 60% - 40%)

Shaman is overrated. Its really nessasery to state that first. Im not saying Technics is something special but hes one level above Shaman.

Technics versus Mondragon (30% - 70%)
It's Mondragon. Still its a ZvZ and Technics can win only by having a better bo so he have some chances.

*thoughts*
Technics will lose to Mondragon in round 3.



LorDo versus IdrA (99% - 1%)
IdrA is a korean progamer, so he is bound to be pretty good. However I have played many games with LorDo, he is good. He actually held on to D last season. Therefore I think IdrA has no shot. He might win one game with cheese, no more. It's not an impossible scenario for IdrA but LorDo is so underrated.

My girlfriend versus IdrA (50% - 50%)
My girlfriend has seen me play many times, I have even explained about the three races. But as stated before IdrA is no scrub. He definitely has a chance. His macro is good. My GF is bound to have at least 30 apm when trying hard, plus she's a good cook (very useful talent toi have) So she should have a fair chance!

hahahahaha gold
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IdrA
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States11541 Posts
December 17 2009 02:10 GMT
#187
On December 17 2009 06:45 Skeggaba wrote:
Maybe im stupid, but does it say anywhere when the commentating will begin?
Also, i think you should grant Ret a Bo7 in his game, it would be soooo horrible if he got a ZvZ and lost due to BO-disadvantage

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Trezeguet
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States2656 Posts
December 17 2009 02:24 GMT
#188
I feel bad for morrow, he put in so much effort to get 1st and then ends up with some of the toughest opponents. On the other hand, octzerg has a pretty clear Achilles heel.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
December 17 2009 02:52 GMT
#189
On December 17 2009 11:24 Trezeguet23 wrote:
I feel bad for morrow, he put in so much effort to get 1st and then ends up with some of the toughest opponents. On the other hand, octzerg has a pretty clear Achilles heel.

In the case that hardcore korean dodging and playing people 2 ranks below your own rank equals putting in a lot of effort, I believe that you are absolutely correct. It's amazing how the definition of effort seems to vary quite a bit.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Trezeguet
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States2656 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-17 02:56:39
December 17 2009 02:55 GMT
#190
On December 17 2009 11:52 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2009 11:24 Trezeguet23 wrote:
I feel bad for morrow, he put in so much effort to get 1st and then ends up with some of the toughest opponents. On the other hand, octzerg has a pretty clear Achilles heel.

In the case that hardcore korean dodging and playing people 2 ranks below your own rank equals putting in a lot of effort, I believe that you are absolutely correct. It's amazing how the definition of effort seems to vary quite a bit.

isn't there some saying that Time = Effort? Not to mention how much you are shortchanging Mamon.

Edit: Def: The use of physical or mental energy to do something

So yeah
KawaiiRice
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States2914 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-17 03:26:32
December 17 2009 03:26 GMT
#191
On December 17 2009 11:55 Trezeguet23 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2009 11:52 Shikyo wrote:
On December 17 2009 11:24 Trezeguet23 wrote:
I feel bad for morrow, he put in so much effort to get 1st and then ends up with some of the toughest opponents. On the other hand, octzerg has a pretty clear Achilles heel.

In the case that hardcore korean dodging and playing people 2 ranks below your own rank equals putting in a lot of effort, I believe that you are absolutely correct. It's amazing how the definition of effort seems to vary quite a bit.

isn't there some saying that Time = Effort? Not to mention how much you are shortchanging Mamon.

Edit: Def: The use of physical or mental energy to do something

So yeah


Sending streams of lings 800 games in a row requires little to no physical or mental energy.
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Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-17 03:39:17
December 17 2009 03:37 GMT
#192
On December 17 2009 11:55 Trezeguet23 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2009 11:52 Shikyo wrote:
On December 17 2009 11:24 Trezeguet23 wrote:
I feel bad for morrow, he put in so much effort to get 1st and then ends up with some of the toughest opponents. On the other hand, octzerg has a pretty clear Achilles heel.

In the case that hardcore korean dodging and playing people 2 ranks below your own rank equals putting in a lot of effort, I believe that you are absolutely correct. It's amazing how the definition of effort seems to vary quite a bit.

isn't there some saying that Time = Effort? Not to mention how much you are shortchanging Mamon.

Edit: Def: The use of physical or mental energy to do something

So yeah

Well he cheesed like every game in the early stages and afterwards played a Korean just about every 50th game in the later levels, and in his A-rank he mostly played against B+ players and some A- foreigners. As I said, if that's your definition of effort, be my guest. I have a different definition.

EDIT: In the case you're wondering, White-Ra is an example of what I mean by having put "so much effort", as you put it.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
zergpower123
Profile Joined December 2009
United States197 Posts
December 17 2009 04:37 GMT
#193
white ra definitely put a lot of effort! He reached the top and continued to play koreans and even dropped considerably but fought back and got back up there.
BlueStar
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Bulgaria1171 Posts
December 17 2009 08:19 GMT
#194
predictions:
a) Nony
b)kolll
c) Mana
d) Strelok
e) White-ra
f) ret
g) Dreiven
h) Tarson
i) Koget
j) Mondragon
k) Yan
l) Hayder

And i wish:
a - Nemu
b - Naugrim
c - Kr
d - avi
e -white-ra
f - g5
g - dreiven
h - sziky
i - arew
j - Technics
k - Sen
l - the smurfin mexican kid ;o
Leader of the Bulgarian National SCBW/SC2 team and team pSi.SCBW/SC2
Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
December 17 2009 08:32 GMT
#195
dang ... I just realized, why are there 3 weeks between now and when the games actually start? that seems like such a big gap for just the ro48
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IdrA
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States11541 Posts
December 17 2009 08:36 GMT
#196
think about it really really hard
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Oystein
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Norway1602 Posts
December 17 2009 08:42 GMT
#197
On December 17 2009 17:32 Xeris wrote:
dang ... I just realized, why are there 3 weeks between now and when the games actually start? that seems like such a big gap for just the ro48

There is this little thing called Christmas that some people like to celebrate you know...
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Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-17 09:01:38
December 17 2009 08:42 GMT
#198
On December 17 2009 17:32 Xeris wrote:
dang ... I just realized, why are there 3 weeks between now and when the games actually start? that seems like such a big gap for just the ro48

Heard of a thing called Christmas? Or New Year?
Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
selboN
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States2523 Posts
December 17 2009 08:43 GMT
#199
What better way to spend your Christmas than watching/playing TSL?!!?!
"That's what happens when you're using a mouse made out of glass!" -Tasteless (Referring to ZergBong)
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36399 Posts
December 17 2009 08:56 GMT
#200
On December 17 2009 17:32 Xeris wrote:
dang ... I just realized, why are there 3 weeks between now and when the games actually start? that seems like such a big gap for just the ro48

1. We wanted to have time to advertise, and for the players to have time to practice
2. We didn't want to organize/work and have the players play during Christmas and New Years
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