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aqui
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Germany1023 Posts
December 08 2009 23:30 GMT
#1981
Quite a lot to learn form Dreiven vs Koll in the TL rep section. Great game.
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
December 08 2009 23:32 GMT
#1982
Why do you guys even bother temp banning ganfei? He has gotten more bans than anyone else.. temp banning a guy who has been perm banned 10+ times is a joke.
Gaspadin
Profile Joined November 2008
Russian Federation132 Posts
December 08 2009 23:40 GMT
#1983
Quite a lot to learn form Dreiven vs Koll in the TL rep section. Great game.


what did u learn?
got me? guess not
Badjas
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Netherlands2038 Posts
December 08 2009 23:40 GMT
#1984
Top 12 races are perfectly balanced now! there is hope :D
I <3 the internet, I <3 you
bEsT[Alive]
Profile Joined July 2009
606 Posts
December 08 2009 23:43 GMT
#1985
On December 09 2009 08:25 igotmyown wrote:
Given how idra was having trouble winning 50% of his A games, I doubt other players will be able to. Unless F91 goads idra into a series.


Your logic is flawed.
If you obey all the rules you miss all the fun - Katharine Hepburn
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
December 08 2009 23:46 GMT
#1986
On December 09 2009 08:32 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
Why do you guys even bother temp banning ganfei? He has gotten more bans than anyone else.. temp banning a guy who has been perm banned 10+ times is a joke.


figurin this one out myself, i dont even know why he's unbanned. it's just a temporary measure until i get to the bottom of this
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
synergis
Profile Joined April 2009
Poland19 Posts
December 09 2009 00:00 GMT
#1987
Congrats to idrA. Not being afraid of losing 170 points when there is +97 at stake, respect.
wadadde
Profile Joined February 2009
270 Posts
December 09 2009 00:04 GMT
#1988
please don't give him "respect" for pussying his way to the top.
it's the fact that he reached A+ which is admirable.. not the way in which he did it. mkay
PhilGood2DaY
Profile Joined September 2005
Germany7424 Posts
December 09 2009 00:06 GMT
#1989
kolll should stop playing koreans with 80-20 stats >_<

its doing him no good..

But if he has enough time im sure hell make top 48
hatred outlives the hateful
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-09 00:08:52
December 09 2009 00:07 GMT
#1990
On December 09 2009 09:04 wadadde wrote:
please don't give him "respect" for pussying his way to the top.
it's the fact that he reached A+ which is admirable.. not the way in which he did it. mkay


...what are you talking about? Idra has played almost nothing but Koreans, both A and A- rank. How is that a bad thing? You know that there's far fewer A players on at any given time than players of lower ranks, right?
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-09 00:09:20
December 09 2009 00:08 GMT
#1991
On December 09 2009 09:04 wadadde wrote:
please don't give him "respect" for pussying his way to the top.
it's the fact that he reached A+ which is admirable.. not the way in which he did it. mkay

What are you talking about ?
For sure playing only A+ Koreans would have been more epic but they are no shame to get to A+ playing A- players and a couple of A.
Actually it is really impressive especially because i'm almost sure that Idra doesn't dodge people. But well you know you can't always find A+ or A opponents so he has to play A-

edit: lol Steve you made the same post than me.
fuck all those elitists brb watching streams of elite players.
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
December 09 2009 00:09 GMT
#1992
yeah that is about as offbase as it gets

Educate yourself with his matchlist sir
Zapdos_Smithh
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Canada2620 Posts
December 09 2009 00:12 GMT
#1993
wooowww idra...pretty damn impressed.

Actually I'm also impressed by Yan as well, doing damn impressive considering he is a 2s player. I knew he was good but I didn't know TSL top 10 good.
aqui
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Germany1023 Posts
December 09 2009 00:16 GMT
#1994
On December 09 2009 08:40 Gaspadin wrote:
Show nested quote +
Quite a lot to learn form Dreiven vs Koll in the TL rep section. Great game.


what did u learn?

Ok, not really learn, more like highlight^^
You see kolls decision making getting worse and worse the longer and more stressfull the game went. From that im remembered how important staying clam an rethinking the game is.
You can see how dreiven plays with his reiinforcement timings, this reminds me, as an unexperienced player, never to forget this when planing something as a zerg. I learned not to attack a reaver, cannon, templar defended base over and over until i lose even if i had quite an advantage^^.
I learned that it may often be better to wait for my 2nd observer when trying to break out of a lurker contain even if i really wanna have it gone^^. Dreiven could have won earlier had he attempted more Storm Drops, so im reminded to be persistent with drops. It also made me ask myself why tosses have to push out before beeing able to have efficient anti templar snipe tech like DA or enough archons. Do Protoss usally win if they can survive until they have DAs with say two mining bases?

Overall it was just a fun game to watch with more than 1 turning points.
AraqirG
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States266 Posts
December 09 2009 00:22 GMT
#1995
The top 12 currently has 4 members for each race. gogo racial balance.
Asjo
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
Denmark664 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-09 00:30:57
December 09 2009 00:30 GMT
#1996
Yeah, I have a feeling that maybe Kolll isn't in the best spot. He has to play some ladder game to be able to qualify, and the same time he has games in other tournaments (ESL), where he tries, but does badly. He doesn't have time for losing, but doesn't have the time for long games as well, so he wants to finish it. Perhaps with WCG behind him, he will play as if he's the superior player, instead of facing people on a even level, and will make stupid mistakes, be frustrated and mess things up.

That's just my theory. You know, you develop such theories when you keep checking this page several times a day to see how Kolll is doing. I haven't watched any replays yet, so I cannot back it up. The thing is, even without having watched any gamess by Kolll, I get the feeling from all the comments and details I have seen to far that he isn't yet a very complete player, not a good a people make him out to be yet. He has a few things down really well, but lacks a lot of things. Therefore, he needs to do things in his own pace, while someone like Idra by not would be able to do well without much of an effort.

He says that pressure doesn't get to him, but perhaps the situation is. I hope he will be putting in a healthy more fully fledged effort within the next 48 hours. Mostly due to my selfish need for seeing him in the qualification, I guess, once I have times for watching replays again (insanely busy with a university project). Also just in terms of the ladder, it would be good to see him play more games against top foreigners to see how he fares.
I am not sure what to say
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44279 Posts
December 09 2009 00:41 GMT
#1997
Was stupid enough to play while on 9305 because my PvZ on HBR is good enough to easily get me back to that point if I pick opponents enough. Motws changed and I'm no longer capable of dominating B and B+ zergs. Bad times.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-09 00:44:15
December 09 2009 00:44 GMT
#1998
You should just keep playing vs oystein T.
I think he is tilting hard too atm.
fuck all those elitists brb watching streams of elite players.
Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary26003 Posts
December 09 2009 00:55 GMT
#1999
You should have just kept feeding off your clanmates.
Moderator
Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
December 09 2009 00:57 GMT
#2000
why are people who are already around 9400+ still playing? the fact that many of the people at A- aren't 'legit' A- means there is a really big potential for huge point swings (look at kwark or mamon or even chosen for example who have gone from 9300's to like 8600)...

it seems to me that camping at mid 9000's is a much better idea than risking qualifying by continuing to play O_O
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