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This thread is for discussing recent bans. Don't discuss other topics here.

Take it to website feedback if you disagree with a ban or want to raise an issue.

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IntoTheEmo
Profile Joined February 2009
Singapore1170 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-22 08:47:43
February 22 2011 08:43 GMT
#5201
If I read it correctly, Manifesto's response was for some sort of picture posts (edit: oh, in the SFW picture thread), I didn't see them in http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=194899? Then again it wasn't that big when I read it the last time.

I'm not so sure that majority of the posts are derailing, that's a bit of a harsh generalization? I think.
MMOs kill APM. However Proleague plus BW Proscene music increase APM -> 100. 이제동 Fighting! Highest ranked Jaedong owner in FPL10 = clearly #1 Jaedong fan~! <- Keeping my sig from 2010
MechaCthulhu
Profile Joined November 2010
United States136 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-22 08:50:03
February 22 2011 08:48 GMT
#5202
On February 22 2011 17:28 TL.net Bot wrote:
Slardar was just temp banned for 2 days by Manifesto7.

That account was created on 2010-04-14 23:48:47 and had 613 posts.

Reason: Randy Spears does not belong in my shrine for Kiira Korpi. Sacrilegious!


One of the most hilarious (and justified!) bans I've seen recently.

The post: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=195231&currentpage=3#48
That which can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof.
Aquafresh
Profile Joined May 2007
United States824 Posts
February 22 2011 09:27 GMT
#5203
On February 22 2011 17:48 jaearess wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2011 17:28 TL.net Bot wrote:
Slardar was just temp banned for 2 days by Manifesto7.

That account was created on 2010-04-14 23:48:47 and had 613 posts.

Reason: Randy Spears does not belong in my shrine for Kiira Korpi. Sacrilegious!


One of the most hilarious (and justified!) bans I've seen recently.

The post: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=195231&currentpage=3#48


Man I was wondering who that girl was for like a year now. Guess I should watch more figure skating.
Danjoh
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden405 Posts
February 22 2011 12:09 GMT
#5204
Yesturdays banning spree seems to have had a huge effect on the LR thread, GJ Mani!

Lets just hope all the banned people behave on friday also.
adeezy
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1428 Posts
February 22 2011 12:14 GMT
#5205
I think the effect is that people who would usually post are banned at the moment. The other effect is that its Artosis casting. Come next code A cast with kelly I'm sure the banfest will continue.
I asked my friend how the ratio at a party was, he replied. "Let's just say for every guy there was two dudes."
SmoKim
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark10305 Posts
February 22 2011 14:09 GMT
#5206
Jayzo was just temp banned for 30 days by JWD.

That account was created on 2010-08-25 10:12:29 and had 364 posts.

Reason:
+ Show Spoiler +

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On February 22 2011 22:04 Jayzo wrote:
it sucks
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On February 22 2011 22:04 Jayzo wrote:
i also think it sucks
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On February 22 2011 22:04 Jayzo wrote:
there is nothing that awe inspiring
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On February 22 2011 22:04 Jayzo wrote:
so overhyped.
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On February 22 2011 21:06 Jayzo wrote:
ALL the players are worse
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On February 22 2011 21:06 Jayzo wrote:
bad move
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On February 22 2011 20:33 Jayzo wrote:
my exact point, its not nearly as good as GSL.
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On February 22 2011 20:30 Jayzo wrote:
nothing in the US as exciting as GSL and there wont be during the time period where idra is competitive.
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On February 22 2011 15:28 Jayzo wrote:
the show match was so boring
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On February 22 2011 15:28 Jayzo wrote:
it is such a let down.
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On February 21 2011 22:22 Jayzo wrote:
lack of knowledge, insight, and her incessant insistance to just ramble
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On February 21 2011 22:22 Jayzo wrote:
thank god tasteless is experienced with supporting a far inferior caster
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On February 21 2011 22:22 Jayzo wrote:
someone who was a complete and utter noob, but had some personality and a decent connection with tasteless/sense of humour, would have done better.
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On February 21 2011 22:22 Jayzo wrote:gun ho, continuous vocalization of everything that can be plainly seen by the viewer already.
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On February 21 2011 22:22 Jayzo wrote:
cant articulate clearly and think on their feet in a witty manner
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On February 21 2011 22:22 Jayzo wrote:
kelly clearly lacks.
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On February 21 2011 20:45 Jayzo wrote:
im paying for a service and complaining
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On February 21 2011 20:45 Jayzo wrote:
if there was an option to turn her mic off, i would.
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On February 21 2011 20:45 Jayzo wrote:
Im annoyed with the decision to hire her.
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On February 21 2011 20:45 Jayzo wrote:
witty, smart, informed and experienced and she is none of these things.
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On February 21 2011 20:45 Jayzo wrote:
If i hear her say "hes like... (insert horrible witless unit impersonation)" one more time im going to cry.
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On February 21 2011 20:45 Jayzo wrote:
she might have done well to just chill a bit more, let tasteless take the lead and get a feel for the whole thing. I feel like he cant even get a word in.
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On February 21 2011 20:32 Jayzo wrote:
when i heard she was chosen i though it was a joke
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On February 21 2011 20:32 Jayzo wrote:her commentary is so unentertaining and uninformed.
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On February 21 2011 20:32 Jayzo wrote:
i trust nothing she says.
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On February 21 2011 20:29 Jayzo wrote:
how can u understand her, her accent is so thick?
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On February 21 2011 20:29 Jayzo wrote:why wouldn't she just cast to people who speak her native language.
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On February 21 2011 20:29 Jayzo wrote:she just says what she see's, anyone could do that.
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On February 21 2011 20:29 Jayzo wrote:
also she takes it too seriously
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On February 21 2011 20:29 Jayzo wrote:im sick of being yelled at, relax woman.
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On February 21 2011 20:25 Jayzo wrote:
yeah im not watching any code A now, its a real shame.
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On February 21 2011 20:21 Jayzo wrote:
my ears. they bleed. so much.

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greatest.... post history... ever!!!
"LOL I have 202 supply right now (3 minutes later)..."LOL NOW I HAVE 220 SUPPLY SUP?!?!?" - Mondragon
FetTerBender
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany1393 Posts
February 22 2011 19:00 GMT
#5207
On February 22 2011 23:09 SmoKim wrote:
Show nested quote +
Jayzo was just temp banned for 30 days by JWD.

That account was created on 2010-08-25 10:12:29 and had 364 posts.

Reason:
+ Show Spoiler +

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On February 22 2011 22:04 Jayzo wrote:
it sucks
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On February 22 2011 22:04 Jayzo wrote:
i also think it sucks
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On February 22 2011 22:04 Jayzo wrote:
there is nothing that awe inspiring
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On February 22 2011 22:04 Jayzo wrote:
so overhyped.
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On February 22 2011 21:06 Jayzo wrote:
ALL the players are worse
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On February 22 2011 21:06 Jayzo wrote:
bad move
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On February 22 2011 20:33 Jayzo wrote:
my exact point, its not nearly as good as GSL.
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On February 22 2011 20:30 Jayzo wrote:
nothing in the US as exciting as GSL and there wont be during the time period where idra is competitive.
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On February 22 2011 15:28 Jayzo wrote:
the show match was so boring
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On February 22 2011 15:28 Jayzo wrote:
it is such a let down.
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On February 21 2011 22:22 Jayzo wrote:
lack of knowledge, insight, and her incessant insistance to just ramble
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On February 21 2011 22:22 Jayzo wrote:
thank god tasteless is experienced with supporting a far inferior caster
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On February 21 2011 22:22 Jayzo wrote:
someone who was a complete and utter noob, but had some personality and a decent connection with tasteless/sense of humour, would have done better.
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On February 21 2011 22:22 Jayzo wrote:gun ho, continuous vocalization of everything that can be plainly seen by the viewer already.
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On February 21 2011 22:22 Jayzo wrote:
cant articulate clearly and think on their feet in a witty manner
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On February 21 2011 22:22 Jayzo wrote:
kelly clearly lacks.
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On February 21 2011 20:45 Jayzo wrote:
im paying for a service and complaining
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On February 21 2011 20:45 Jayzo wrote:
if there was an option to turn her mic off, i would.
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On February 21 2011 20:45 Jayzo wrote:
Im annoyed with the decision to hire her.
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On February 21 2011 20:45 Jayzo wrote:
witty, smart, informed and experienced and she is none of these things.
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On February 21 2011 20:45 Jayzo wrote:
If i hear her say "hes like... (insert horrible witless unit impersonation)" one more time im going to cry.
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On February 21 2011 20:45 Jayzo wrote:
she might have done well to just chill a bit more, let tasteless take the lead and get a feel for the whole thing. I feel like he cant even get a word in.
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On February 21 2011 20:32 Jayzo wrote:
when i heard she was chosen i though it was a joke
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On February 21 2011 20:32 Jayzo wrote:her commentary is so unentertaining and uninformed.
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On February 21 2011 20:32 Jayzo wrote:
i trust nothing she says.
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On February 21 2011 20:29 Jayzo wrote:
how can u understand her, her accent is so thick?
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On February 21 2011 20:29 Jayzo wrote:why wouldn't she just cast to people who speak her native language.
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On February 21 2011 20:29 Jayzo wrote:she just says what she see's, anyone could do that.
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On February 21 2011 20:29 Jayzo wrote:
also she takes it too seriously
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On February 21 2011 20:29 Jayzo wrote:im sick of being yelled at, relax woman.
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On February 21 2011 20:25 Jayzo wrote:
yeah im not watching any code A now, its a real shame.
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On February 21 2011 20:21 Jayzo wrote:
my ears. they bleed. so much.

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greatest.... post history... ever!!!


This guy seems to be one of those kind who love really short words / sentences / posts

Now he cant communicate barrier free anymore (ears bleeding, TL ban) so sad :-/
There's a fine line between bravery and stupidity.
beetlelisk
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Poland2276 Posts
February 22 2011 21:25 GMT
#5208
On February 22 2011 17:17 IntoTheEmo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2011 16:28 adeezy wrote:
Say what you wan't about Kelly, teamliquid isn't privy to any casters that arent: InControl, Tastosis, Day9, etc. I've gotten into my fair share of arguments with people who immediately say "HD and Husky are bronze level, shitty casters". If you don't understand why people have been temp banned for kelly then you obviously don't realize that a lot of posters on here and contemptuous, immature, and just don't give anyone a chance. It doesn't help that a lot of people I see are IdrA fans, who think that its fun and games to lash out opinions regardless of how harsh it is because of they realism they deem the opinion to have.

I remember in the first GSLs that the initial reception to the guest commentators Jason Lee, and Assem was very poor. Even in MLG Dallas initial reactions to dj wheat weren't favorable. It's just happens that the starcraft community is highly critical of unfamiliar people or things. When I watch non GSL streams on the weekends for tournaments, half the chat is about how bad the commentary is. I understand your dissapointment for them calling things consistently wrong, but saying "these commentators are horrible and dont know anything" isn't contributing anything but needless complaints.

If anything I hope these bans change the attitude the teamliquid has towards casters, if it's the first day, even week, for kelly. give her a chance, not immediately dismiss them because they aren't your casting archon.
But I doubt it will. I've been browsing here for almost a year now and there's been caster commentator wars and complaints since the beginning. Was it even like that during brood war? I can only guess that it was but not to this extent. I can only hope that in the future, this community will be more receptive and open to new community members, because I know it is and that it can be. It's just that the amount of hate posts triples, or more, the amount of supportive posts that occur.


What if those concerns are legit though? Remember, good things have happened from community feedback too, no matter how harsh it sounds, like the impact of the first GSL season tickets? It caused an uproar that there was no free LQ stream and GOM was pressured into providing that free stream, otherwise who knows where we would be now.

Similarly, that thread with the rumors about GOM rigging brackets for Boxer (which I remember participating in, with you). GOM came out and announced random map draws and such.

Look, if you want to help promote the growth of the game, sometimes you have to push for the best. Not necessarily meaning KellyMilkies isn't good enough (though comments and credentials say otherwise), but keep in mind that GSL is supposed to be the highest level tournament for SC2 out there. There has to be some standard - some people are also paying for it - if you allow GOM to experiment as they like (like hiring her without consulting the community?) without criticism, there may be repercussions down the road.

Like if Blizzard was never pressured by the community to add chat channels, who knows how long we may not have had them - which other future games may not have them.

While I'm not promoting baseless bashing of her casting (in LR threads, no less), there is a tendency for people to be overly lenient as well. Out of the 100/200 pages of LR thread, there HAS to be some sort of legitimate concern here.

Like every time I read something criticizing SC2, there are always people saying give it more time. How much time do you want to give? Sometimes the community needs to step in to drive the game forward, you know? Especially with high expectations riding on the game.

Sorry for the long rant, just want to say, don't be too quick to dismiss the negative feedback as nothing as well. Doing nothing and waiting can be just as bad. Try and think about their concerns - I'm sure they are as passionate about the game as you are.

Oh, and out of curiosity, I understand the LR actions and all, but what happened to the Code A Caster Interview thread? Are TLers allowed to comment on her at all? Just asking~ don't hurt me :<


Insecure white teenage trash humour meme doesn't equal to negative feedback to me.
Maybe he can prove me wrong and once the ban is over, say that's not the case but I don't think he would post the meme if this would be about a guy casting. The same goes to all that were banned in the LR thread.

The pic thread used to be derailed hard with pictureless discussions and bandwagon posting.
It's great to see bans there and any arguments ceased isntantenously.
I support any bans given in that thread.
wwww
IntoTheEmo
Profile Joined February 2009
Singapore1170 Posts
February 23 2011 01:28 GMT
#5209
I wasn't talking about any one singular person o_o and I know that memes aren't welcome on TL. Nor was I talking about the picture thread either :\ I have not seen the Kelly pictures myself.

I would never defend anyone using memes. That was about the complaints in the LR thread and the interview thread.
MMOs kill APM. However Proleague plus BW Proscene music increase APM -> 100. 이제동 Fighting! Highest ranked Jaedong owner in FPL10 = clearly #1 Jaedong fan~! <- Keeping my sig from 2010
beetlelisk
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Poland2276 Posts
February 23 2011 02:09 GMT
#5210
Which ones in particular?
wwww
Ojahh
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Ireland728 Posts
February 23 2011 02:23 GMT
#5211
On February 22 2011 23:04 matko5 wrote:
Everything is fine and ok except the haircut. It has got to go.

User was temp banned for this and other garbage one-line posts.


this should become a template, it would stop the constant "why such a harsh ban" QQ that is going on all the time :D
===== Barcraft Münster ===== www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=282905! ////// ♥ Nyovne is the new Manifesto
JWD
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States12607 Posts
February 23 2011 02:27 GMT
#5212
On February 23 2011 11:23 Ojahh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2011 23:04 matko5 wrote:
Everything is fine and ok except the haircut. It has got to go.

User was temp banned for this and other garbage one-line posts.


this should become a template, it would stop the constant "why such a harsh ban" QQ that is going on all the time :D

The red messages are convenient but they do belie how important post history as a whole is in determining whether (and how long) to ban someone.
✌
adeezy
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1428 Posts
February 24 2011 00:35 GMT
#5213
YES. Athenewins getting owned.... I hope he never comes back. THanks Manifesto, IMO IP ban him.... I don't think he will ever contribute to the starcraft scene
I asked my friend how the ratio at a party was, he replied. "Let's just say for every guy there was two dudes."
vyyye
Profile Joined July 2010
Sweden3917 Posts
February 24 2011 01:15 GMT
#5214
On February 24 2011 09:35 adeezy wrote:
YES. Athenewins getting owned.... I hope he never comes back. THanks Manifesto, IMO IP ban him.... I don't think he will ever contribute to the starcraft scene

What did he get banned for? A search with his name turns up.. no posts.
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
February 24 2011 01:25 GMT
#5215
On February 22 2011 18:27 Aquafresh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2011 17:48 jaearess wrote:
On February 22 2011 17:28 TL.net Bot wrote:
Slardar was just temp banned for 2 days by Manifesto7.

That account was created on 2010-04-14 23:48:47 and had 613 posts.

Reason: Randy Spears does not belong in my shrine for Kiira Korpi. Sacrilegious!


One of the most hilarious (and justified!) bans I've seen recently.

The post: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=195231&currentpage=3#48


Man I was wondering who that girl was for like a year now. Guess I should watch more figure skating.

What is it with TL and figure skaters? First Yuna Kim and now Kiira xD
Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
elmizzt
Profile Joined February 2010
United States3309 Posts
February 24 2011 01:27 GMT
#5216
On February 24 2011 10:15 vyyye wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2011 09:35 adeezy wrote:
YES. Athenewins getting owned.... I hope he never comes back. THanks Manifesto, IMO IP ban him.... I don't think he will ever contribute to the starcraft scene

What did he get banned for? A search with his name turns up.. no posts.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=195804&currentpage=2#36

And good riddance.
d=(^_^)z
Manifesto7
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Osaka27174 Posts
February 24 2011 01:42 GMT
#5217
On February 24 2011 10:25 Plexa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2011 18:27 Aquafresh wrote:
On February 22 2011 17:48 jaearess wrote:
On February 22 2011 17:28 TL.net Bot wrote:
Slardar was just temp banned for 2 days by Manifesto7.

That account was created on 2010-04-14 23:48:47 and had 613 posts.

Reason: Randy Spears does not belong in my shrine for Kiira Korpi. Sacrilegious!


One of the most hilarious (and justified!) bans I've seen recently.

The post: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=195231&currentpage=3#48


Man I was wondering who that girl was for like a year now. Guess I should watch more figure skating.

What is it with TL and figure skaters? First Yuna Kim and now Kiira xD


Kiira could be a professional egg sorter or finger painter and I would still be in love.
ModeratorGodfather
hacklebeast
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5090 Posts
February 24 2011 01:46 GMT
#5218
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=194682

manifesto busting out the carpet bomb technique

It made me laugh, good stuff.
Protoss: Best, Paralyze, Jangbi, Nal_Ra || Terran: Oov, Boxer, Fantasy, Hiya|| Zerg: Yellow, Zero
101toss
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
3232 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-24 02:01:59
February 24 2011 01:54 GMT
#5219
On February 24 2011 10:46 hacklebeast wrote:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=194682

manifesto busting out the carpet bomb technique

It made me laugh, good stuff.

I f5'd the thread, and was surprised by all the red that came up

Edit:

On February 23 2011 12:35 TL.net Bot wrote:
Bigpon86 was just temp banned for 90 days by Manifesto7.

That account was created on 2009-09-28 18:14:00 and had 223 posts.

Reason: Ridiculous fucking image.

What was the image? Mani already del'd the offending picture :/
Math doesn't kill champions and neither do wards
Sworn
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada920 Posts
February 24 2011 02:05 GMT
#5220
On February 24 2011 10:47 lolitsme wrote:
tl;dr learn to scout and spread your units.



gold league scrub.


No sure if this is the right place to post this but honestly don't know how this isnt ban worthy in the thread
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=195836
"Duty is heavy as a mountain, death is light as a feather." CJ Entus Fighting! <3 Effort
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