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Praetorial
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States4241 Posts
October 26 2012 22:14 GMT
#29381
On October 27 2012 07:06 Swazi Spring wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2012 07:04 Gorsameth wrote:
On October 27 2012 07:03 Swazi Spring wrote:
On October 27 2012 07:01 Gorsameth wrote:
On October 27 2012 07:00 Swazi Spring wrote:
On October 27 2012 06:57 farvacola wrote:
On October 27 2012 06:55 Swazi Spring wrote:
On October 27 2012 06:52 Doublemint wrote:
On October 27 2012 06:48 Swazi Spring wrote:
On October 27 2012 06:47 Gorsameth wrote:
[quote]

Ill give you the first part of your argument but to push his totalitarian agenda? your really trying to push everyone who disagrees with you the wrong way arnt you.

Please, just hear me out. By definition, supporting gun control is totalitarian, therefore advocating for it is advocating for totalitarianism.


This is a very special and sensitive topic in the states - we get it. But don't call everyone else calling for gun control a totalitarian.

And how would you describe what is happening in Libya - what is happening there regarding guns and what wording is necessary to not hurt "gun lover's" feelings?

Gun control is totalitarian anywhere it is implemented, not just in America. You've been raised in Europe, where the people have been stripped of this right (and many other rights as well). Your governments and your media have been trying to brainwash you into thinking that guns are evil and that people shouldn't have civil liberties. Just because your government says "you don't have any rights" doesn't mean that your government is correct. Our rights come from nature, not from governments.

Nature gave me the right to violently murder those I disagree with. Who is the government to infringe upon such things?

Right to Bear Arms /=/ Right to Violently Murder Those Who Disagree With You


Who says so? nature? or we as human beings.

How in the world does having the right to defend yourself equate with the right to violently murdering anyone who disagrees with you?

If you kill someone unprovoked, you're violating their right to life and shall be tried for such an offense.


Does Nature try me for that offense or does a human court do so?
If its a Human court then it is a human right or one from nature?

A human court. Humans are animals, we're part of nature and we, as natural beings, punish those who violate the rights of others.

User was temp banned for this post.


JUSTICE FALLS ON THE GUILTY

Good lord, it's high time that he got his first perm.
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Aerisky
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States12129 Posts
October 26 2012 22:15 GMT
#29382
I think that was the reference he was trying to make lol. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt and assume his English isn't that coincidentally bad.
Jim while Johnny had had had had had had had; had had had had the better effect on the teacher.
jdseemoreglass
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States3773 Posts
October 26 2012 22:22 GMT
#29383
On October 27 2012 07:06 Swazi Spring wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2012 07:04 Gorsameth wrote:
On October 27 2012 07:03 Swazi Spring wrote:
On October 27 2012 07:01 Gorsameth wrote:
On October 27 2012 07:00 Swazi Spring wrote:
On October 27 2012 06:57 farvacola wrote:
On October 27 2012 06:55 Swazi Spring wrote:
On October 27 2012 06:52 Doublemint wrote:
On October 27 2012 06:48 Swazi Spring wrote:
On October 27 2012 06:47 Gorsameth wrote:
[quote]

Ill give you the first part of your argument but to push his totalitarian agenda? your really trying to push everyone who disagrees with you the wrong way arnt you.

Please, just hear me out. By definition, supporting gun control is totalitarian, therefore advocating for it is advocating for totalitarianism.


This is a very special and sensitive topic in the states - we get it. But don't call everyone else calling for gun control a totalitarian.

And how would you describe what is happening in Libya - what is happening there regarding guns and what wording is necessary to not hurt "gun lover's" feelings?

Gun control is totalitarian anywhere it is implemented, not just in America. You've been raised in Europe, where the people have been stripped of this right (and many other rights as well). Your governments and your media have been trying to brainwash you into thinking that guns are evil and that people shouldn't have civil liberties. Just because your government says "you don't have any rights" doesn't mean that your government is correct. Our rights come from nature, not from governments.

Nature gave me the right to violently murder those I disagree with. Who is the government to infringe upon such things?

Right to Bear Arms /=/ Right to Violently Murder Those Who Disagree With You


Who says so? nature? or we as human beings.

How in the world does having the right to defend yourself equate with the right to violently murdering anyone who disagrees with you?

If you kill someone unprovoked, you're violating their right to life and shall be tried for such an offense.


Does Nature try me for that offense or does a human court do so?
If its a Human court then it is a human right or one from nature?

A human court. Humans are animals, we're part of nature and we, as natural beings, punish those who violate the rights of others.

User was temp banned for this post.


This is confusing He was banned for trolling. Is this trolling? I mean if it is, his entire account must be a troll account, so why keep it around?

Maybe someone can explain this to me.
"If you want this forum to be full of half-baked philosophy discussions between pompous faggots like yourself forever, stay the course captain vanilla" - FakeSteve[TPR], 2006
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44275 Posts
October 26 2012 22:25 GMT
#29384
My assumption is that he is expected to tone it down and at least try and justify what he says rather than just state that his opinions are human rights derived from natural law and that those who oppose his opinions are totalitarians. It's about how he frames his insanity, not just the insanity itself. Still, I don't hold out much hope for him. Candidate for "librul tarm larquad hate my freedom" website feedback topic imo.
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Lmui
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada6223 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-26 22:30:33
October 26 2012 22:29 GMT
#29385
On October 27 2012 07:22 jdseemoreglass wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2012 07:06 Swazi Spring wrote:
On October 27 2012 07:04 Gorsameth wrote:
On October 27 2012 07:03 Swazi Spring wrote:
On October 27 2012 07:01 Gorsameth wrote:
On October 27 2012 07:00 Swazi Spring wrote:
On October 27 2012 06:57 farvacola wrote:
On October 27 2012 06:55 Swazi Spring wrote:
On October 27 2012 06:52 Doublemint wrote:
On October 27 2012 06:48 Swazi Spring wrote:
[quote]
Please, just hear me out. By definition, supporting gun control is totalitarian, therefore advocating for it is advocating for totalitarianism.


This is a very special and sensitive topic in the states - we get it. But don't call everyone else calling for gun control a totalitarian.

And how would you describe what is happening in Libya - what is happening there regarding guns and what wording is necessary to not hurt "gun lover's" feelings?

Gun control is totalitarian anywhere it is implemented, not just in America. You've been raised in Europe, where the people have been stripped of this right (and many other rights as well). Your governments and your media have been trying to brainwash you into thinking that guns are evil and that people shouldn't have civil liberties. Just because your government says "you don't have any rights" doesn't mean that your government is correct. Our rights come from nature, not from governments.

Nature gave me the right to violently murder those I disagree with. Who is the government to infringe upon such things?

Right to Bear Arms /=/ Right to Violently Murder Those Who Disagree With You


Who says so? nature? or we as human beings.

How in the world does having the right to defend yourself equate with the right to violently murdering anyone who disagrees with you?

If you kill someone unprovoked, you're violating their right to life and shall be tried for such an offense.


Does Nature try me for that offense or does a human court do so?
If its a Human court then it is a human right or one from nature?

A human court. Humans are animals, we're part of nature and we, as natural beings, punish those who violate the rights of others.

User was temp banned for this post.


This is confusing He was banned for trolling. Is this trolling? I mean if it is, his entire account must be a troll account, so why keep it around?

Maybe someone can explain this to me.


I think the general consensus is that he showed up all of a sudden a few days back and started spouting inflammatory remarks from the extreme tea party end of the pool and either didn't post sources, or when he did, cited blogs and non-news sources that can't be referenced any where else. That post/topic probably tipped a bit far off-topic and unlike people like xDaunt, he didn't really add much to the discussion anyways.

Looking at it I'm disappointed, he was only banned for 2 days, I was hoping for 11 days so that election would be over when he came back =/
jdseemoreglass
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States3773 Posts
October 26 2012 22:31 GMT
#29386
On October 27 2012 07:29 Lmui wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2012 07:22 jdseemoreglass wrote:
On October 27 2012 07:06 Swazi Spring wrote:
On October 27 2012 07:04 Gorsameth wrote:
On October 27 2012 07:03 Swazi Spring wrote:
On October 27 2012 07:01 Gorsameth wrote:
On October 27 2012 07:00 Swazi Spring wrote:
On October 27 2012 06:57 farvacola wrote:
On October 27 2012 06:55 Swazi Spring wrote:
On October 27 2012 06:52 Doublemint wrote:
[quote]

This is a very special and sensitive topic in the states - we get it. But don't call everyone else calling for gun control a totalitarian.

And how would you describe what is happening in Libya - what is happening there regarding guns and what wording is necessary to not hurt "gun lover's" feelings?

Gun control is totalitarian anywhere it is implemented, not just in America. You've been raised in Europe, where the people have been stripped of this right (and many other rights as well). Your governments and your media have been trying to brainwash you into thinking that guns are evil and that people shouldn't have civil liberties. Just because your government says "you don't have any rights" doesn't mean that your government is correct. Our rights come from nature, not from governments.

Nature gave me the right to violently murder those I disagree with. Who is the government to infringe upon such things?

Right to Bear Arms /=/ Right to Violently Murder Those Who Disagree With You


Who says so? nature? or we as human beings.

How in the world does having the right to defend yourself equate with the right to violently murdering anyone who disagrees with you?

If you kill someone unprovoked, you're violating their right to life and shall be tried for such an offense.


Does Nature try me for that offense or does a human court do so?
If its a Human court then it is a human right or one from nature?

A human court. Humans are animals, we're part of nature and we, as natural beings, punish those who violate the rights of others.

User was temp banned for this post.


This is confusing He was banned for trolling. Is this trolling? I mean if it is, his entire account must be a troll account, so why keep it around?

Maybe someone can explain this to me.


I think the general consensus is that he showed up all of a sudden a few days back and started spouting inflammatory remarks from the extreme tea party end of the pool and either didn't post sources, or when he did, cited blogs and non-news sources that can't be referenced any where else. That post/topic probably tipped a bit far off-topic and unlike people like xDaunt, he didn't really add much to the discussion anyways.

Yeah I get that part. It's just sort of weird that he had about 50 worse posts and then randomly gets banned for that one. Guess it's one of those straw/camel situations.
"If you want this forum to be full of half-baked philosophy discussions between pompous faggots like yourself forever, stay the course captain vanilla" - FakeSteve[TPR], 2006
Danglars
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States12133 Posts
October 26 2012 23:37 GMT
#29387
On October 27 2012 06:59 Swazi Spring wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2012 06:54 Sanctimonius wrote:
On October 27 2012 06:38 Swazi Spring wrote:
On October 27 2012 06:35 Gorsameth wrote:
On October 27 2012 06:29 Swazi Spring wrote:
Unrelated, but I simply must point this out. Again the liberal media makes their bias obvious:
Discontent is rife across Libya, not just in Benghazi, the cradle of the revolt. Gun culture has taken hold, residents say, citing carjackings, kidnappings, armed robberies and disputes leading to shootouts between rival groups.


Hence the phrase "gun culture," as if having a culture that respects guns and gun rights makes you violent.


While there is a difference between handgun rights and buying an AK on every street corner, I agree that its a strange choice of words.

Just because people have the right to buy an AK-47 "on every street corner" doesn't make them violent either. Guns don't make people violent, no matter what kind of gun it is.


Correct. It simply makes mass violence much, much easier. Which I believe is the argument frequently made by anti-gun people and frequently ignored by pro-gun people, but this is getting off the debate.

That "argument" has been proven wrong time and time again. The fact of the matter is that gun control empowers criminals, while hurting law abiding citizens, thus resulting in more death and more violence. This has always been the case throughout history and in every single country that has ever existed.

Maybe with post volume down and on-topic up, Swazi Spring will make a return to this thread. It's possible to get a little worked up and type furiously, then come down and put out your reasoned views for discussion. And what I quoted is a view held by quite a segment of Americans. Pew poll of Americans shows 46% think it is more important to protect the rights of Americans to own guns than it is to control gun ownership. Now, get in a debate, and you will see the points argued of crime rates in the states with the most gun control, and counterarguments as to why that exists as a separate issue or explained another way. Don't really see the trolling until we're in the weeds on who gave us the rights, but, well, here's a breather.
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ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
October 27 2012 00:08 GMT
#29388
He had around 50 posts before he discovered the Election Thread, since then he's been typing away furiously.
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sam!zdat
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5559 Posts
October 27 2012 00:41 GMT
#29389
thank god
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Dubzex
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6994 Posts
October 27 2012 01:30 GMT
#29390
Can we talk about warns in here?

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=378324

Apparently we can't post in threads that are going to be closed now

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MountainDewJunkie
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States10346 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-27 01:32:54
October 27 2012 01:31 GMT
#29391
He probably should have been warned/banned for hijacking the discussion, and a slight qualification for spamming, but I really don't think he was trolling.
On October 27 2012 10:30 Dubzex wrote:
Can we talk about warns in here?

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=378324

Apparently we can't post in threads that are going to be closed now

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What the hell?
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Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-27 02:08:23
October 27 2012 01:45 GMT
#29392
On October 27 2012 10:30 Dubzex wrote:
Can we talk about warns in here?

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=378324

Apparently we can't post in threads that are going to be closed now

Show nested quote +
Original Message From TL.net Bot:
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Thread of the day.

Don't spam into threads that are about to be closed.

Thanks in advance for your cooperation,
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Uhh... it's never really been tolerated. Not just a recent thing. Some mods are just more forgiving than others when it happens, especially when it happens with like 5+ people who just start bandwagoning.
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Caihead
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada8550 Posts
October 27 2012 01:46 GMT
#29393
On October 27 2012 10:30 Dubzex wrote:
Can we talk about warns in here?

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=378324

Apparently we can't post in threads that are going to be closed now

Show nested quote +
Original Message From TL.net Bot:
This is a Warning!

Thread of the day.

Don't spam into threads that are about to be closed.

Thanks in advance for your cooperation,
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Fairly sure the point was that you shouldn't post 1 word / short remarks in response to an obviously bad OP with no content.
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nttea
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Sweden4353 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-27 05:02:46
October 27 2012 05:02 GMT
#29394
EDIT: FUCK THAT DISCUSS BANS HERE
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
October 27 2012 05:28 GMT
#29395
Yeah that's not new. You clearly knew it was a bad thread and you shouldn't post in it, then you posted in it.
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419
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Russian Federation3631 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-27 07:35:43
October 27 2012 07:32 GMT
#29396
just saw the Financial Abortion thread claim a victim in real time. Surprise! You can always trust TL to discuss issues involving women in a calm and rational manner.

Fenrax down:

On October 27 2012 14:45 Fenrax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2012 14:10 RockIronrod wrote:
On October 27 2012 13:59 overt wrote:
On October 27 2012 13:58 RockIronrod wrote:
On October 27 2012 13:54 overt wrote:
On October 27 2012 13:46 Fenrax wrote:
On October 27 2012 13:39 Reedjr wrote:
On October 27 2012 13:34 Cuce wrote:
On October 27 2012 13:29 Reedjr wrote:
But, as a man, it's my right to stick my dick in whatever I want, and as long as I don't want a kid, I don't have to deal with the consequences!

But as a woman, its my right to take in any dick I want, and as long as I dont want a kind, I dont have to, and if I do dick gotta pay!

it is so obviously biased that I dont know how else to explaine it.


You're aware this thread is literally advocating for consequence free sex exclusively for the part of men. You act as though going through an abortion or even childbirth are not consequences.


Half are misogynistic enough to accept that, half are too out of touch with reality to accept the facts of life.


I think most of them are people who haven't been in a relationship. Or people who have never actually had sex.

I don't understand how the majority of TL users can agree with this proposition lol.

Oh hey it's that "everyone who disagrees with me is a neckbeard virgin" argument. Glad to see it.
The discussion isn't "child support is gay, fuck women" it's "men should have equal choice in parenthood."


I didn't say that. I said most. And considering the demographics of this site it is very likely true. It could also be the alcohol talking.

On October 27 2012 14:06 Fenrax wrote:
On October 27 2012 13:54 overt wrote:
On October 27 2012 13:46 Fenrax wrote:
On October 27 2012 13:39 Reedjr wrote:
On October 27 2012 13:34 Cuce wrote:
On October 27 2012 13:29 Reedjr wrote:
But, as a man, it's my right to stick my dick in whatever I want, and as long as I don't want a kid, I don't have to deal with the consequences!

But as a woman, its my right to take in any dick I want, and as long as I dont want a kind, I dont have to, and if I do dick gotta pay!

it is so obviously biased that I dont know how else to explaine it.


You're aware this thread is literally advocating for consequence free sex exclusively for the part of men. You act as though going through an abortion or even childbirth are not consequences.


Half are misogynistic enough to accept that, half are too out of touch with reality to accept the facts of life.


I think most of them are people who haven't been in a relationship. Or people who have never actually had sex.

I don't understand how the majority of TL users can agree with this proposition lol.


It is good to see at least a few normal people. It gives back a bit faith. The thread is not even worth discussing, we are right they are wrong. I am out and a bit ashamed of my fellow nerds, plz go get at least a bit of life.

Are you guys serious? Rather than debate the point you'd rather just label the entire opposition as weirdo virgin misogynists?


Let me explain. Imagine a bunch of drunk wannabe hiphoppers cracking jokes because they heard that people play video games as a sport. Or stereotypical rednecks talking about how studied people are stupid. Or the girls from the local Justin Biber fanclub talking about what a great musician he is.

Would you debate with them? That is how I feel at the moment... absolutely sure that I am right, very reluctant to get involved.

?
jdseemoreglass
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States3773 Posts
October 27 2012 08:38 GMT
#29397
On October 27 2012 16:32 419 wrote:
just saw the Financial Abortion thread claim a victim in real time. Surprise! You can always trust TL to discuss issues involving women in a calm and rational manner.

Fenrax down:

Show nested quote +
On October 27 2012 14:45 Fenrax wrote:
On October 27 2012 14:10 RockIronrod wrote:
On October 27 2012 13:59 overt wrote:
On October 27 2012 13:58 RockIronrod wrote:
On October 27 2012 13:54 overt wrote:
On October 27 2012 13:46 Fenrax wrote:
On October 27 2012 13:39 Reedjr wrote:
On October 27 2012 13:34 Cuce wrote:
On October 27 2012 13:29 Reedjr wrote:
But, as a man, it's my right to stick my dick in whatever I want, and as long as I don't want a kid, I don't have to deal with the consequences!

But as a woman, its my right to take in any dick I want, and as long as I dont want a kind, I dont have to, and if I do dick gotta pay!

it is so obviously biased that I dont know how else to explaine it.


You're aware this thread is literally advocating for consequence free sex exclusively for the part of men. You act as though going through an abortion or even childbirth are not consequences.


Half are misogynistic enough to accept that, half are too out of touch with reality to accept the facts of life.


I think most of them are people who haven't been in a relationship. Or people who have never actually had sex.

I don't understand how the majority of TL users can agree with this proposition lol.

Oh hey it's that "everyone who disagrees with me is a neckbeard virgin" argument. Glad to see it.
The discussion isn't "child support is gay, fuck women" it's "men should have equal choice in parenthood."


I didn't say that. I said most. And considering the demographics of this site it is very likely true. It could also be the alcohol talking.

On October 27 2012 14:06 Fenrax wrote:
On October 27 2012 13:54 overt wrote:
On October 27 2012 13:46 Fenrax wrote:
On October 27 2012 13:39 Reedjr wrote:
On October 27 2012 13:34 Cuce wrote:
On October 27 2012 13:29 Reedjr wrote:
But, as a man, it's my right to stick my dick in whatever I want, and as long as I don't want a kid, I don't have to deal with the consequences!

But as a woman, its my right to take in any dick I want, and as long as I dont want a kind, I dont have to, and if I do dick gotta pay!

it is so obviously biased that I dont know how else to explaine it.


You're aware this thread is literally advocating for consequence free sex exclusively for the part of men. You act as though going through an abortion or even childbirth are not consequences.


Half are misogynistic enough to accept that, half are too out of touch with reality to accept the facts of life.


I think most of them are people who haven't been in a relationship. Or people who have never actually had sex.

I don't understand how the majority of TL users can agree with this proposition lol.


It is good to see at least a few normal people. It gives back a bit faith. The thread is not even worth discussing, we are right they are wrong. I am out and a bit ashamed of my fellow nerds, plz go get at least a bit of life.

Are you guys serious? Rather than debate the point you'd rather just label the entire opposition as weirdo virgin misogynists?


Let me explain. Imagine a bunch of drunk wannabe hiphoppers cracking jokes because they heard that people play video games as a sport. Or stereotypical rednecks talking about how studied people are stupid. Or the girls from the local Justin Biber fanclub talking about what a great musician he is.

Would you debate with them? That is how I feel at the moment... absolutely sure that I am right, very reluctant to get involved.


Fenrax apologized and was unbanned apparently. You grabbed one too many posts btw.
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gruff
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden2276 Posts
October 27 2012 08:52 GMT
#29398
On October 27 2012 07:22 jdseemoreglass wrote:
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On October 27 2012 07:06 Swazi Spring wrote:
On October 27 2012 07:04 Gorsameth wrote:
On October 27 2012 07:03 Swazi Spring wrote:
On October 27 2012 07:01 Gorsameth wrote:
On October 27 2012 07:00 Swazi Spring wrote:
On October 27 2012 06:57 farvacola wrote:
On October 27 2012 06:55 Swazi Spring wrote:
On October 27 2012 06:52 Doublemint wrote:
On October 27 2012 06:48 Swazi Spring wrote:
[quote]
Please, just hear me out. By definition, supporting gun control is totalitarian, therefore advocating for it is advocating for totalitarianism.


This is a very special and sensitive topic in the states - we get it. But don't call everyone else calling for gun control a totalitarian.

And how would you describe what is happening in Libya - what is happening there regarding guns and what wording is necessary to not hurt "gun lover's" feelings?

Gun control is totalitarian anywhere it is implemented, not just in America. You've been raised in Europe, where the people have been stripped of this right (and many other rights as well). Your governments and your media have been trying to brainwash you into thinking that guns are evil and that people shouldn't have civil liberties. Just because your government says "you don't have any rights" doesn't mean that your government is correct. Our rights come from nature, not from governments.

Nature gave me the right to violently murder those I disagree with. Who is the government to infringe upon such things?

Right to Bear Arms /=/ Right to Violently Murder Those Who Disagree With You


Who says so? nature? or we as human beings.

How in the world does having the right to defend yourself equate with the right to violently murdering anyone who disagrees with you?

If you kill someone unprovoked, you're violating their right to life and shall be tried for such an offense.


Does Nature try me for that offense or does a human court do so?
If its a Human court then it is a human right or one from nature?

A human court. Humans are animals, we're part of nature and we, as natural beings, punish those who violate the rights of others.

User was temp banned for this post.


This is confusing He was banned for trolling. Is this trolling? I mean if it is, his entire account must be a troll account, so why keep it around?

Maybe someone can explain this to me.

I can see why he was ban (though it was pretty weak) but I also don't see how it's trolling. If it's a troll he's doing a good job at representing opinions that he don't believe in.
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Zurich15366 Posts
October 27 2012 09:44 GMT
#29399
On October 27 2012 10:30 Dubzex wrote:
Can we talk about warns in here?

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=378324

Apparently we can't post in threads that are going to be closed now

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Actually you can't spam useless shit anywhere. Enforcement is more likely when it's 10 people doing it in a row.
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ControlMonkey
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia3109 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-27 10:35:56
October 27 2012 10:28 GMT
#29400
On October 27 2012 16:32 419 wrote:
just saw the Financial Abortion thread claim a victim in real time. Surprise! You can always trust TL to discuss issues involving women in a calm and rational manner.

Fenrax down:

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On October 27 2012 14:45 Fenrax wrote:
On October 27 2012 14:10 RockIronrod wrote:
On October 27 2012 13:59 overt wrote:
On October 27 2012 13:58 RockIronrod wrote:
On October 27 2012 13:54 overt wrote:
On October 27 2012 13:46 Fenrax wrote:
On October 27 2012 13:39 Reedjr wrote:
On October 27 2012 13:34 Cuce wrote:
On October 27 2012 13:29 Reedjr wrote:
But, as a man, it's my right to stick my dick in whatever I want, and as long as I don't want a kid, I don't have to deal with the consequences!

But as a woman, its my right to take in any dick I want, and as long as I dont want a kind, I dont have to, and if I do dick gotta pay!

it is so obviously biased that I dont know how else to explaine it.


You're aware this thread is literally advocating for consequence free sex exclusively for the part of men. You act as though going through an abortion or even childbirth are not consequences.


Half are misogynistic enough to accept that, half are too out of touch with reality to accept the facts of life.


I think most of them are people who haven't been in a relationship. Or people who have never actually had sex.

I don't understand how the majority of TL users can agree with this proposition lol.

Oh hey it's that "everyone who disagrees with me is a neckbeard virgin" argument. Glad to see it.
The discussion isn't "child support is gay, fuck women" it's "men should have equal choice in parenthood."


I didn't say that. I said most. And considering the demographics of this site it is very likely true. It could also be the alcohol talking.

On October 27 2012 14:06 Fenrax wrote:
On October 27 2012 13:54 overt wrote:
On October 27 2012 13:46 Fenrax wrote:
On October 27 2012 13:39 Reedjr wrote:
On October 27 2012 13:34 Cuce wrote:
On October 27 2012 13:29 Reedjr wrote:
But, as a man, it's my right to stick my dick in whatever I want, and as long as I don't want a kid, I don't have to deal with the consequences!

But as a woman, its my right to take in any dick I want, and as long as I dont want a kind, I dont have to, and if I do dick gotta pay!

it is so obviously biased that I dont know how else to explaine it.


You're aware this thread is literally advocating for consequence free sex exclusively for the part of men. You act as though going through an abortion or even childbirth are not consequences.


Half are misogynistic enough to accept that, half are too out of touch with reality to accept the facts of life.


I think most of them are people who haven't been in a relationship. Or people who have never actually had sex.

I don't understand how the majority of TL users can agree with this proposition lol.


It is good to see at least a few normal people. It gives back a bit faith. The thread is not even worth discussing, we are right they are wrong. I am out and a bit ashamed of my fellow nerds, plz go get at least a bit of life.

Are you guys serious? Rather than debate the point you'd rather just label the entire opposition as weirdo virgin misogynists?


Let me explain. Imagine a bunch of drunk wannabe hiphoppers cracking jokes because they heard that people play video games as a sport. Or stereotypical rednecks talking about how studied people are stupid. Or the girls from the local Justin Biber fanclub talking about what a great musician he is.

Would you debate with them? That is how I feel at the moment... absolutely sure that I am right, very reluctant to get involved.



There's more bans coming, I can feel it.

Edit: And there we go.

cloneThorN was just banned by KwarK.

That account was created on 2012-09-26 05:08:03 and had 40 posts.

Reason: Sorry it didn't work out but you're not getting the hint.


On October 27 2012 19:04 cloneThorN wrote:

You just declared yourself a sexist, you know that right? You are a bigoted asshat, who do not understand that men and women should have equal rights, on all fronts, but instead just scream "Girl power" each time you want more power to your own gender.


Fuck you! - Sincereely, human society.

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