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solidbebe
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4921 Posts
June 29 2012 21:13 GMT
#24561
On June 30 2012 05:53 dAPhREAk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2012 05:17 ranjutan wrote:
On June 30 2012 04:42 Empyrean wrote:
On June 29 2012 23:10 solidbebe wrote:
Penis doesn't end on 'us' so it's not peni.


Actually it's because it's not a second declension Latin noun. Plenty of words end in 'us' that aren't correctly pluralized that way.

EDIT: some fourth declension nouns are also pluralized with -i, I believe. It's not fourth declension Latin either.


Fourth declension nouns are pluralized with -us or -ua.

i think your wrong. their are many ways to say it and you're way is unright.

;-)


wow...
That's the 2nd time in a week I've seen someone sig a quote from this GD and I have never witnessed a sig quote happen in my TL history ever before. -Najda
Fencar
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States2694 Posts
June 29 2012 21:21 GMT
#24562
OK, so ontopic...

dvorakftw was just temp banned for 2 days by Falling.

That account was created on 2011-11-11 10:27:36 and had 84 posts.

Reason: I said to drop the picture 'debate'.

[Embedded Youtube]

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=32696&currentpage=1300#25982

I can't find the post he was banned for, though.
This is my signature. There are many like it, but this one is mine.
Cokefreak
Profile Joined June 2011
Finland8095 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-29 21:39:57
June 29 2012 21:39 GMT
#24563
On June 30 2012 06:21 Fencer710 wrote:
OK, so ontopic...

Show nested quote +
dvorakftw was just temp banned for 2 days by Falling.

That account was created on 2011-11-11 10:27:36 and had 84 posts.

Reason: I said to drop the picture 'debate'.

[Embedded Youtube]

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=32696&currentpage=1300#25982

I can't find the post he was banned for, though.

Saw this and laughed, here's the post:
On June 30 2012 05:31 dvorakftw wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2012 05:20 Dosey wrote:
That's actually the 6th picture and easily overlooked. Especially if you're just trying to find a quick picture because someone refuses to turn on his webcam.

It's the second pic of avilo. I could go for debate points but discussing fine points of language but will skip that to say it takes a normal human a fraction of a second to look at the results of the google image search of avilo sc2 to see there was more than one choice and that avilo did not refuse to turn on his webcam - he did but they couldn't get it to work.

Nice try, though.

User was temp banned for this post.

Completely off-topic stuff in the SotG thread.
Fencar
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States2694 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-29 21:41:14
June 29 2012 21:40 GMT
#24564
Could you please link the post? To understand that I need a bit of context.
Edit: Oh and thanks
This is my signature. There are many like it, but this one is mine.
Cokefreak
Profile Joined June 2011
Finland8095 Posts
June 29 2012 21:45 GMT
#24565
On June 30 2012 06:40 Fencer710 wrote:
Could you please link the post? To understand that I need a bit of context.
Edit: Oh and thanks

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=15272156
Actually it wasn't off topic, just stupid to argue about.
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
June 29 2012 21:47 GMT
#24566
On June 30 2012 06:40 Fencer710 wrote:
Could you please link the post? To understand that I need a bit of context.
Edit: Oh and thanks

JP searched for "sc2 avilo" on google. it popped up with a picture of him that is less than flattering. jp put it up on the SOTG video and asked avilo if it was him. avilo confirmed it was. people got upset that jp used a less than flattering picture of avilo. turned into the "picture controversy" with people saying jp intentionally used it to disparage him.

its fucking dumb. search for "sc2 avilo" on google images and the first picture that pops up is the one jp used:

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
June 29 2012 21:59 GMT
#24567
Ercster was just temp banned for 30 days by Nyovne.

That account was created on 2011-08-01 18:26:27 and had 320 posts.

Reason: 320 posts, 7 warnings, 2 bans. Of which a ban and two warnings for bashing and flaming have been issued in the last 30 days. Unacceptable.


On June 30 2012 06:44 Ercster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2012 06:37 ChinaRestaurant wrote:
On June 30 2012 06:35 Ercster wrote:
On June 30 2012 06:27 ChinaRestaurant wrote:
On June 30 2012 06:23 Ercster wrote:
On June 30 2012 06:20 zeru wrote:
On June 30 2012 06:18 Ercster wrote:
On June 30 2012 05:47 Starshaped wrote:
On June 30 2012 04:49 Ercster wrote:
On June 30 2012 04:27 blinken wrote:
[quote]

In this day and age, isn't that all it is about?

I wouldn't think so. The reason I got circumcised was because my dad was, and that we do it as a culture. It hasn't affected me in anyway.


Except the fact that your genitals were mutilated? Nobody is saying you are a lesser person because of it or anything, but you have to understand that violating infants like that makes a lot of people upset.

Culture, tradition etc. is not a legitimate excuse for perpetuating a barbaric practice.

I wouldn't consider my genitals to be mutilated, though. I would consider them to be correct for my culture. Whether you agree with my culture or not doesn't mean you can deem my body parts to be mutilated (I know you didn't really say that they were mutilated, but you should understand the point).

I do understand that people will be upset with "violating" infants, however, I also know that it isn't a fucking big deal, it really isn't.

Its not about it being a big deal or not, its about it being plain wrong to force a procedure like that onto a child and is something which will affect him for the rest of his life, and he doesnt have a say in it. If he wants to do it later in life he is free to.

Give me one objective reason in which it will affect him other than he wont have foreskin? Because, lets be fair, that really isn't a good enough reason.


He wont have the choice of living WITH a foreskin and if it is done for religious reasons it takes away part of HIS religious freedom. You might also argue that his ability to experience sex with the added sensitivity of a foreskin is also taken away from him. To me thats more than enough reason.

Yet, no fully accepted study can corroborate that. Interesting, isn't it.


They cant? Well then the studies posted throughout the thread must all be wrong. I'll just take your word for that, thanks for enlightening me.


to a certain extent, they are. While property isn't the label that is given, the laws are similar with some of property.


After this I think I'll stop arguing with you. Seriously ...

I never said the studies were wrong, shit for brains, I just said they weren't fully accepted. Also, look up the fucking laws in the United States regarding children.

User was temp banned for this post.

On June 30 2012 06:54 dAPhREAk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2012 06:52 Ercster wrote:
On June 30 2012 06:42 dAPhREAk wrote:
On June 30 2012 06:37 Ercster wrote:
On June 30 2012 06:33 dAPhREAk wrote:
On June 30 2012 06:25 Ercster wrote:
On June 30 2012 06:23 Co-lol-sus wrote:
On June 30 2012 06:19 Eisregen wrote:
Once again (as pepople tend to ignore FACTS) the press release of the cologne court:

From the press release of the cologne court:

Dieser Eingriff sei insbesondere nicht durch die Einwilligung der Eltern gerechtfertigt, weil sie nicht dem Wohl des Kindes entspreche. Denn im Rahmen einer vorzunehmenden Abwägung überwiege das Grundrecht des Kindes auf körperliche Unversehrtheit vorliegend die Grundrechte der Eltern. Ihre Religionsfreiheit und ihr Erziehungsrecht würden nicht unzumutbar beeinträchtigt, wenn sie gehalten seien abzuwarten, ob sich das Kind später selbst für eine Beschneidung entscheidet.

http://www.lg-koeln.nrw.de/Presse/Pressemitteilungen/26_06_2012_-_Beschneidung.pdf

Translated (mistakes may happen):

This intervention is in particular not justified by the consent of the parents because they did not correspond to the welfare of a child. Because in the context of a coming assessment the fundamental right of children of physical integrity in this case outweigh the fundamental rights of parents. Their religion and their right to educate would not unreasonably be affected thereby if they were held to wait whether the child later decides for himself for a circumcision.


So please try to understand that the right of self determination and physical integrity of a child weighs more than the parents education right and right of freedom. That's what the decision is based on and in my opinion is 100% logical.




They will ignore this post.

Circumcision proponents reject the idea that children have rights. In their mind, children are property. You can do what you want to property.

In the United States, they are, to a certain extent, considered property.

children are not considered property in the U.S.

to a certain extent, they are. While property isn't the label that is given, the laws are similar with some of property.

are you referring to the fact that parents are legally responsible for their children's acts (to some extent) and are entitled to all of their earnings? or are you referring to something else? because i have never heard of children being the property of their parents. you can't buy or sell children, you can't do whatever you want to them, etc. they have none of the characteristics of "property."

For you, I will make the text big and bold. TO A CERTAIN EXTENT, THEY ARE CONSIDERED PROPERTY. Hopefully, that will help.

Here's hoping you can read this. Parents have "ownership" over their childs body. They can determine what they can and can't do. They can determine what can and can't be done to them. They can determine what you can and can't have. All of these are of course only to a certain extent, but the idea is at least there.

i read it, and asked you to confirm how they are ever property. because i think you are completely wrong about the law and am calling bullshit on you, sir.

edit: well, fuck, now i'll never get an answer since he was banned.


nyovne so quick. i was hoping the dude would educate me on US law before he gets ejected.
Cokefreak
Profile Joined June 2011
Finland8095 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-29 21:59:48
June 29 2012 21:59 GMT
#24568
Ercster was just temp banned for 30 days by Nyovne.

That account was created on 2011-08-01 18:26:27 and had 320 posts.

Reason: 320 posts, 7 warnings, 2 bans. Of which a ban and two warnings for bashing and flaming have been issued in the last 30 days. Unacceptable.

Someone got the ultimatum!
On June 30 2012 06:44 Ercster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2012 06:37 ChinaRestaurant wrote:
On June 30 2012 06:35 Ercster wrote:
On June 30 2012 06:27 ChinaRestaurant wrote:
On June 30 2012 06:23 Ercster wrote:
On June 30 2012 06:20 zeru wrote:
On June 30 2012 06:18 Ercster wrote:
On June 30 2012 05:47 Starshaped wrote:
On June 30 2012 04:49 Ercster wrote:
On June 30 2012 04:27 blinken wrote:
[quote]

In this day and age, isn't that all it is about?

I wouldn't think so. The reason I got circumcised was because my dad was, and that we do it as a culture. It hasn't affected me in anyway.


Except the fact that your genitals were mutilated? Nobody is saying you are a lesser person because of it or anything, but you have to understand that violating infants like that makes a lot of people upset.

Culture, tradition etc. is not a legitimate excuse for perpetuating a barbaric practice.

I wouldn't consider my genitals to be mutilated, though. I would consider them to be correct for my culture. Whether you agree with my culture or not doesn't mean you can deem my body parts to be mutilated (I know you didn't really say that they were mutilated, but you should understand the point).

I do understand that people will be upset with "violating" infants, however, I also know that it isn't a fucking big deal, it really isn't.

Its not about it being a big deal or not, its about it being plain wrong to force a procedure like that onto a child and is something which will affect him for the rest of his life, and he doesnt have a say in it. If he wants to do it later in life he is free to.

Give me one objective reason in which it will affect him other than he wont have foreskin? Because, lets be fair, that really isn't a good enough reason.


He wont have the choice of living WITH a foreskin and if it is done for religious reasons it takes away part of HIS religious freedom. You might also argue that his ability to experience sex with the added sensitivity of a foreskin is also taken away from him. To me thats more than enough reason.

Yet, no fully accepted study can corroborate that. Interesting, isn't it.


They cant? Well then the studies posted throughout the thread must all be wrong. I'll just take your word for that, thanks for enlightening me.


to a certain extent, they are. While property isn't the label that is given, the laws are similar with some of property.


After this I think I'll stop arguing with you. Seriously ...

I never said the studies were wrong, shit for brains, I just said they weren't fully accepted. Also, look up the fucking laws in the United States regarding children.

User was temp banned for this post.

Terrible.
Edit. Ninjaed...
DeepElemBlues
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States5079 Posts
June 30 2012 01:22 GMT
#24569
On June 30 2012 06:47 dAPhREAk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2012 06:40 Fencer710 wrote:
Could you please link the post? To understand that I need a bit of context.
Edit: Oh and thanks

JP searched for "sc2 avilo" on google. it popped up with a picture of him that is less than flattering. jp put it up on the SOTG video and asked avilo if it was him. avilo confirmed it was. people got upset that jp used a less than flattering picture of avilo. turned into the "picture controversy" with people saying jp intentionally used it to disparage him.

its fucking dumb. search for "sc2 avilo" on google images and the first picture that pops up is the one jp used:

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


i dont get whats less than flattering about that photo but some parts of the community will latch on to anything as an excuse to grab their lovingly maintained pitchforks...
no place i'd rather be than the satellite of love
Empyrean
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
17051 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-30 01:29:17
June 30 2012 01:28 GMT
#24570
On June 30 2012 05:17 ranjutan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2012 04:42 Empyrean wrote:
On June 29 2012 23:10 solidbebe wrote:
Penis doesn't end on 'us' so it's not peni.


Actually it's because it's not a second declension Latin noun. Plenty of words end in 'us' that aren't correctly pluralized that way.

EDIT: some fourth declension nouns are also pluralized with -i, I believe. It's not fourth declension Latin either.


Fourth declension nouns are pluralized with -us or -ua.


You're right, my bad.
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JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
June 30 2012 01:29 GMT
#24571
On June 30 2012 10:28 Empyrean wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2012 05:17 ranjutan wrote:
On June 30 2012 04:42 Empyrean wrote:
On June 29 2012 23:10 solidbebe wrote:
Penis doesn't end on 'us' so it's not peni.


Actually it's because it's not a second declension Latin noun. Plenty of words end in 'us' that aren't correctly pluralized that way.

EDIT: some fourth declension nouns are also pluralized with -i, I believe. It's not fourth declension Latin either.


Fourth declension nouns are pluralized with -us or -ua.


You're right, my bad.


Is this related to your current hot streak? Taking it out on the people who are arguing about stuff?
Empyrean
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
17051 Posts
June 30 2012 01:46 GMT
#24572
What?
Moderator
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
June 30 2012 01:49 GMT
#24573
On June 30 2012 10:46 Empyrean wrote:
What?


Six bans in a row.

Weren't we getting complaints about being offtopic too much here?
Fencar
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States2694 Posts
June 30 2012 01:53 GMT
#24574
On June 30 2012 10:49 JingleHell wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2012 10:46 Empyrean wrote:
What?


Six bans in a row.

Weren't we getting complaints about being offtopic too much here?

That was mainly from a few ABL veterans, a mod, and a liquipedia contributor who said that he would ban everyone in the ABL if he had a hammer.

Ontopic: Two perm bans in a row, I can't find the incriminating posts (again) for some reason.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=32696&currentpage=1300#25986
and the post below that.
This is my signature. There are many like it, but this one is mine.
Empyrean
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
17051 Posts
June 30 2012 01:56 GMT
#24575
The two perm bans were for the same guy who (for some reason) had two accounts.

He registered the one with 1000 posts while on temp ban for the 300 post one, though.
Moderator
JackDragon
Profile Joined February 2011
525 Posts
June 30 2012 01:57 GMT
#24576
The reason to why you can't find the post is because there is a delay after the post is made until you can search for it. I still don't know how long that delay is but then you know that he was hammered fast.
Fencar
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States2694 Posts
June 30 2012 01:58 GMT
#24577
Ahh so that's why I can never find incriminating posts. No wonder!!! Thank you!
This is my signature. There are many like it, but this one is mine.
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
June 30 2012 02:00 GMT
#24578
On June 30 2012 10:57 JackDragon wrote:
The reason to why you can't find the post is because there is a delay after the post is made until you can search for it. I still don't know how long that delay is but then you know that he was hammered fast.

with empyrean's help, we can test it. want to volunteer to be our test subject?
refmac_cys.cys
Profile Joined June 2010
United States177 Posts
June 30 2012 02:03 GMT
#24579
On June 30 2012 10:53 Fencer710 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2012 10:49 JingleHell wrote:
On June 30 2012 10:46 Empyrean wrote:
What?


Six bans in a row.

Weren't we getting complaints about being offtopic too much here?

That was mainly from a few ABL veterans, a mod, and a liquipedia contributor who said that he would ban everyone in the ABL if he had a hammer.

Ontopic: Two perm bans in a row, I can't find the incriminating posts (again) for some reason.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=32696&currentpage=1300#25986
and the post below that.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=15274204

here ya go!
my helicopter example is less stupid than your helicopter example - Liquid'Drone
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
June 30 2012 02:03 GMT
#24580
On June 30 2012 11:00 dAPhREAk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2012 10:57 JackDragon wrote:
The reason to why you can't find the post is because there is a delay after the post is made until you can search for it. I still don't know how long that delay is but then you know that he was hammered fast.

with empyrean's help, we can test it. want to volunteer to be our test subject?


Except that would require a decent sized statistical sampling, as I'd assume the site is set to only index new posts every X amount of time, just to reduce loads. If the ban goes through halfway through the cycle, we haven't gained much info.
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