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Zorkmid
Profile Joined November 2008
4410 Posts
June 21 2013 21:33 GMT
#401
Well, grab what you can it while it lasts!!
Nakama
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany584 Posts
June 21 2013 21:33 GMT
#402
On June 22 2013 06:26 Piy wrote:
Don't like the commercialisation at all, but whatever I guess. Whole feeling of the community is so changed from a few years ago, makes me realise why I participate less and less.

Just my opinion, not just on this issue, but also the general trend of modern e-sports. Regardless of how much money people are making now, I had a lot more fun with Starcraft 5 years ago. Now I don't play or watch it, and endless adverts and sponsor shout outs and reddit posts about the stagnation of esports' growth just make me not want to. Was just better when I could watch an hour or so of fresh BW VOD's, play at the A/B ranks and not have to spend forever finding games (back when Iccup was a viable server) and enjoy the community interaction on TL.'

Feels now like something great is gone forever. I would love nothing more than to go back to BW being the niche game it was with a decent, dedicated following and a fun community; the thought of never truly getting to experience my favourite game of all time again is very disheartening and depressing.

Can't wait for the next good competitive RTS tbh, will hopefully be fun again.



This... i think sth in my heart died today.. TL was the last site i expected to implement sth like this.. build by fans run by fans... i will miss the good old times.. i always tried my best to support TL with the little i have but now i think i will adblock it again... im not trying to be offensive btw i just cant understand why the old system worked for so long and now suddenly they need to make sth like this other then greed i hope someone can give me some good arguments so i can get my faith back into my so loved number one website.
Cele
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Germany4016 Posts
June 21 2013 21:38 GMT
#403
On June 22 2013 06:32 Torenhire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2013 06:29 Cele wrote:
will there be a TL+ forum section for BW?


There's a BW Discussion thread in TL+

TL+ is its own independent subforum, similar to how there is a TL Community section in General


great. There is only like 10 people posting in BW forums anyway, so lets split it up even more.
Broodwar for life!
Barbiero
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Brazil5259 Posts
June 21 2013 21:38 GMT
#404
Err there have been multiple people asking for a method to support TL w/o ads. Its not like anything changed for some without plus, and plus members get some rreaaaally silly stuff.

For the common user, there is absolutely no difference.
♥ The world needs more hearts! ♥
Trozz
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada3456 Posts
June 21 2013 21:39 GMT
#405
omgjackpot
Some kind soul gifted me +
I love all of you
A build is not a guess, an estimation or a hunch, a feeling, or a foolish intuition. A build is a dependable, unwavering, unarguably accurate, portrayer of your ambition.
Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
June 21 2013 21:42 GMT
#406
On June 22 2013 06:14 TheRavensName wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2013 06:13 AsnSensation wrote:
On June 22 2013 05:45 The_Templar wrote:
I wish I had money ><


I'm confused as to why post like this are shown yellow for me?


If you read on. Someone gifted plus to him. I'm guessing thats why?

I gifted him.
11/5/14 CATACLYSM | The South West's worst Falco main
Torenhire
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States11681 Posts
June 21 2013 21:42 GMT
#407
On June 22 2013 06:38 Cele wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2013 06:32 Torenhire wrote:
On June 22 2013 06:29 Cele wrote:
will there be a TL+ forum section for BW?


There's a BW Discussion thread in TL+

TL+ is its own independent subforum, similar to how there is a TL Community section in General


great. There is only like 10 people posting in BW forums anyway, so lets split it up even more.


It's not going to replace the BW section, it's more of a "let's talk about general shit that's happening in BW"

TL+ is not going to replace sections, it's more...message boardy than a traditional forum

example: I could go post "hey did you guys see the shuttle vs movie games the other day" which in itself isn't a thread-worthy post but it fits well in a "general discussion" topic.

TL+ isn't going to kill off or divert traffic from any forums that isn't already off of it.
SirJolt: Well maybe if you weren't so big and stupid, it wouldn't have hit you.
Timetwister22
Profile Joined March 2011
United States538 Posts
June 21 2013 21:44 GMT
#408
Bought this right when I saw it. Good shit.
Former ESV Mapmaker | @Timetwister22
GGQ
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2653 Posts
June 21 2013 21:44 GMT
#409
I feel negatively about this development.
Torenhire
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States11681 Posts
June 21 2013 21:47 GMT
#410
On June 22 2013 06:33 Nakama wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2013 06:26 Piy wrote:
Don't like the commercialisation at all, but whatever I guess. Whole feeling of the community is so changed from a few years ago, makes me realise why I participate less and less.

Just my opinion, not just on this issue, but also the general trend of modern e-sports. Regardless of how much money people are making now, I had a lot more fun with Starcraft 5 years ago. Now I don't play or watch it, and endless adverts and sponsor shout outs and reddit posts about the stagnation of esports' growth just make me not want to. Was just better when I could watch an hour or so of fresh BW VOD's, play at the A/B ranks and not have to spend forever finding games (back when Iccup was a viable server) and enjoy the community interaction on TL.'

Feels now like something great is gone forever. I would love nothing more than to go back to BW being the niche game it was with a decent, dedicated following and a fun community; the thought of never truly getting to experience my favourite game of all time again is very disheartening and depressing.

Can't wait for the next good competitive RTS tbh, will hopefully be fun again.



This... i think sth in my heart died today.. TL was the last site i expected to implement sth like this.. build by fans run by fans... i will miss the good old times.. i always tried my best to support TL with the little i have but now i think i will adblock it again... im not trying to be offensive btw i just cant understand why the old system worked for so long and now suddenly they need to make sth like this other then greed i hope someone can give me some good arguments so i can get my faith back into my so loved number one website.


TL has full time paid employees. TL has to get the staff and coverage people to events, plus they have players to pay. I'm not going to speak on their behalf but I'm guessing that Ads and sponsors don't cover the costs.

Can you imagine the costs of running a site of this size? That's not cheap either.

It's not greed. You aren't being forced to do it. Adblocking because of TL+ just proves you're really cynical more than anything else. You lose absolutely nothing by not buying TL+. You get TL+ because you support TL. If they said "oh non TL+ members can only post 5 times per day then yes we could be upset and hate the site owners for the feature.

There's a lot of people making a huge deal about something that doesn't effect anyone unless they are going to buy it. If you're really that upset about not getting access to the features then maybe you should shell out a whole 3 dollars to try it out for a month and see if you're really missing out as much as you think you are.
SirJolt: Well maybe if you weren't so big and stupid, it wouldn't have hit you.
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
June 21 2013 21:47 GMT
#411
This kind of makes me sad. The reason I got into TL was because everyone was equal and the only special privileges were those given to people who had done enough to deserve the respect of the community, not because they were willing to spend more money than the next guy.

This destroys a lot of that feeling for me.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
June 21 2013 21:48 GMT
#412
Is it against the TOS to have TL+ cartels where people give each other TL+ for the gold/yellow/orange bar? :p
"My incompetence with power tools had been increasing exponentially over the course of 20 years spent inhaling experimental oven cleaners"
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
June 21 2013 21:48 GMT
#413
Ad blocking in general is just a very shitty thing to do in esports.
maru lover forever
Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
June 21 2013 21:48 GMT
#414
On June 22 2013 06:48 Djzapz wrote:
Is it against the TOS to have TL+ cartels where people give each other TL+ for the gold/yellow/orange bar? :p

I'm imagining entire threads of gold.
11/5/14 CATACLYSM | The South West's worst Falco main
Torenhire
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States11681 Posts
June 21 2013 21:52 GMT
#415
On June 22 2013 06:47 Two_DoWn wrote:
This kind of makes me sad. The reason I got into TL was because everyone was equal and the only special privileges were those given to people who had done enough to deserve the respect of the community, not because they were willing to spend more money than the next guy.

This destroys a lot of that feeling for me.


I commend you for having a reasonable opinion against TL+


Anyhow, I don't think there is going to be that drastic of a difference. No one is going to take a TL+ user's opinion more seriously because they have a + in their sigbar.

Almost any site has a "donation" or "supporting member" forum of some sort. I'm on three other non-gaming forums and all three of them have a "give us ten bucks and we'll give you a cool icon/colored name and access to a donor only forum!"

TL has never had a donation link or option in the past and I bet if they did this would not be at all talked about
SirJolt: Well maybe if you weren't so big and stupid, it wouldn't have hit you.
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
June 21 2013 21:55 GMT
#416
On June 22 2013 06:52 Torenhire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2013 06:47 Two_DoWn wrote:
This kind of makes me sad. The reason I got into TL was because everyone was equal and the only special privileges were those given to people who had done enough to deserve the respect of the community, not because they were willing to spend more money than the next guy.

This destroys a lot of that feeling for me.


I commend you for having a reasonable opinion against TL+


Anyhow, I don't think there is going to be that drastic of a difference. No one is going to take a TL+ user's opinion more seriously because they have a + in their sigbar.

Almost any site has a "donation" or "supporting member" forum of some sort. I'm on three other non-gaming forums and all three of them have a "give us ten bucks and we'll give you a cool icon/colored name and access to a donor only forum!"

TL has never had a donation link or option in the past and I bet if they did this would not be at all talked about

Ya I mean I would have no problem with a donation button that maybe gave an icon or something.

Its the additional features that bug me a bit. Getting respected enough to have access to the limited forums like the banling and mod forums created a mythical quality around them for me. Thats gone now.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
RHoudini
Profile Joined October 2009
Belgium3627 Posts
June 21 2013 21:56 GMT
#417
I'm happy to support TL!
Please don't put too much functions behind the TL+ wall, TL belongs to every user.
Removing the ads is good enough for me...
Lee Jae Dong fighting!
Superouman
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
France2195 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-21 22:24:19
June 21 2013 21:58 GMT
#418
I actually like my ads on tl, why would i hide them?
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Torenhire
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States11681 Posts
June 21 2013 21:59 GMT
#419
On June 22 2013 06:55 Two_DoWn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2013 06:52 Torenhire wrote:
On June 22 2013 06:47 Two_DoWn wrote:
This kind of makes me sad. The reason I got into TL was because everyone was equal and the only special privileges were those given to people who had done enough to deserve the respect of the community, not because they were willing to spend more money than the next guy.

This destroys a lot of that feeling for me.


I commend you for having a reasonable opinion against TL+


Anyhow, I don't think there is going to be that drastic of a difference. No one is going to take a TL+ user's opinion more seriously because they have a + in their sigbar.

Almost any site has a "donation" or "supporting member" forum of some sort. I'm on three other non-gaming forums and all three of them have a "give us ten bucks and we'll give you a cool icon/colored name and access to a donor only forum!"

TL has never had a donation link or option in the past and I bet if they did this would not be at all talked about

Ya I mean I would have no problem with a donation button that maybe gave an icon or something.

Its the additional features that bug me a bit. Getting respected enough to have access to the limited forums like the banling and mod forums created a mythical quality around them for me. Thats gone now.


You'll get more respect for being a banling/coverage staff/gold coin liquipedia than TL+ I would wager. ^^
SirJolt: Well maybe if you weren't so big and stupid, it wouldn't have hit you.
Fischbacher
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada666 Posts
June 21 2013 22:00 GMT
#420
Well, I've been waiting for this for a long time. I can finally sleep at night despite using adblock on everything.
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