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Empyrean
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
17020 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-27 06:28:17
October 27 2011 06:17 GMT
#21
On October 27 2011 15:14 skyzzang wrote:
Calling someone's work "horrible" and not giving a single letter of explanation really doesn't look good with the red ban hammer status of yours.


P.S - I hope you read a book called "How to win friends and influence people"
You are quick to criticize on someone's work and yet look at your own position. I don't think you are anywhere near him to be speaking like you just did. The only thing you should ever criticize is yourself.

I don't mind you pointing some things you find wrong about his work. But, the way you said it really made it sound like you had something against it. Afterall, why do you criticize someone for their imperfection when you know for a fact that you are the "imperfect" being. Just criticize yourself if anything. I liked his work, it helped me grasp much of rich people's mentality when it comes to money and their approach. Care to explain why you called it "horrible" ?

I think Will Smith's video captures the importance of Rich Dad Poor Dad.


Neither does simply posting three youtube videos without any context on why we should watch them. In any case, you're invoking a sort of tu quoque argument on me when you say I shouldn't criticize someone because I'm flawed myself.

By the way, here are some articles regarding Rich Dad Poor Dad. The ones from the Wall Street Journal Op/Ed, Slate, and John Treed's site are probably the most interesting.

http://www.slate.com/articles/arts/number_1/2002/06/if_i_were_a_rich_dad.html

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB116052181216688592.html?mod=money_page_left_hs

http://www.cbc.ca/marketplace/2010/road_to_rich_dad/main.html

http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2004/06/03/1086203560484.html?from=storyrhs

http://www.johntreed.com/Kiyosaki.html

http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2007/04/07/review-rich-dad-poor-dad/

http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2007/01/26/deconstructing-robert-kiyosaki/
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jdseemoreglass
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States3773 Posts
October 27 2011 06:21 GMT
#22
Regarding the question of how I picked a career:

I went down the list of things I really enjoy doing, and tried to figure out which one's were actually profitable. Probably only one of them for me: programming. I used to sit and program the school TI-calculators to play video games during lecture for fun.

So I guess my advice is, just figure out how you can make money doing something you enjoy. You might feel like nothing you enjoy is productive at all, but I'm sure with enough thought you can relate your pleasurable activities with some type of work.
"If you want this forum to be full of half-baked philosophy discussions between pompous faggots like yourself forever, stay the course captain vanilla" - FakeSteve[TPR], 2006
Primadog
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4411 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-27 06:34:28
October 27 2011 06:33 GMT
#23
There are no output without input, and you won't know what career to pursue without knowing what makes you tick.

If you don't have a clue what you like, then you need to break yourself away from the mindless, wandering pattern you been in now. You won't know what you like, until you try, so you just gotta use spare time to try new things, and eventually you will find one activity that you do enjoy. It may not lead to a career, but having some direction is always better than being lost.
Thank God and gunrun.
Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
October 27 2011 06:40 GMT
#24
I didn't know what I wanted to do until I took my first telephony and cabling course in college. Now I have plans to be a telecommunications technician with my good buddy in April *crossing fingers*
If you watch Godzilla backwards it's about a benevolent lizard who helps rebuild a city and then moonwalks into the ocean.
Empyrean
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
17020 Posts
October 27 2011 06:43 GMT
#25
On October 27 2011 14:03 Chill wrote:
I just recently got my P.Eng. I'm a project engineer for an oil company. Really like it now but I'm not sure how long I'll stay here.

Your thread is too general to give you any meaningful advice. Try to research as much as possible and make an informed decision, rather than "trying out some classes and figuring it out later." Not much is going to change in 4 years, so you should have some sort of gameplan when entering university.


While this is true, do know that your initial plans can drastically change, and that's perfectly ok. Of course you should go into college with an idea of what you might be interested in, but don't view college as a stepping stone into a career, but rather as a way for you to learn things that you otherwise wouldn't have the opportunity to learn. If you start out, say, premed, and you end up at medical school, great. If you start out premed and end up working for NPR, that's totally ok too.
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Tabula`Rasa
Profile Joined September 2010
Singapore81 Posts
October 27 2011 06:49 GMT
#26
On October 27 2011 15:13 ene13 wrote:
I work for my parents in the house. I cook, clean, do the laundry, and make the beds.

My pay is: Free rent, food, games, PC upgrades and some money sometimes.

I feel great about it and I don't plan on leaving the house in the foreseeable future.

Finished college btw (civil eng), however, I dont wanna move out of this great city called Toronto.

So my day consists of waking up, cleaning a bit, playing sc2, cleaning some more, playing some sc2, going shopping, playing some sc2, eating, playing some bf3, showering, and yah, watching animuz and learning Japanese.

I sure hope these days never end!

So thats another avenue that exists for people, although Im not sure how feasible it is for most.


This is the best job ever.
Ultimea
Profile Joined October 2010
United States25 Posts
October 27 2011 06:50 GMT
#27
What's up man. I got my "career" job by joining the national guard one day just to have something done. I am now a full-time X-ray technologist, but doing a deployment to Kuwait. Best advice I could hand to you buddy, is that if you don't like college too much, find a tech school and get a tech job (medical, dental, paralegal, etc..,). I'm a big music enthusiast man, and that's my main goal career-wise to just make music and enjoy it. But my plan C is being an x-ray tech. I guess I am sort of working backwards. But in any event, you'll be just fine. I think EVERYONE goes through that process in high school, but things always seem to work out fine. Take care buddy and good luck!!
Unnamezz
Profile Joined May 2010
Malaysia191 Posts
October 27 2011 07:08 GMT
#28
Currently searching for job. Finished my Diploma in Nursing last June.
Lazy and Sleepy
Mr Tambourine Man
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands190 Posts
October 27 2011 07:10 GMT
#29
Don't try to have a too specific plan. Do something that you think you'll like and be reasonably good at and see how it is. I had a difficult time choosing too. I like art and being creative but also loved math and physics. I thought if I do something more math-like that I'd still be able to do arty stuff in my free time. The other way around didn't seem very realistic to me: doing something arty and doing math/physics in my free time.
So when I went to uni I chose the more math like direction in software engineering. However I missed the creativity and switched to Industrial Design Engineering (which was also offered by my uni). It sorta combined my two areas of interest. For some reason though it still didn't feel right, but it was pretty close and I couldn't think of anything better so I stuck with it.
Then at the end of my bachelor studies I had a medical design project. This felt perfectly right for me and I loved the project. Then in my master studies I specialized in medical product design and haven't regretted it since. Now I've almost graduated and couldn't be happier with my direction.

At the end of high school I would have never guessed that I would become a medical product designer. I couldn't have even come up with it. So keep your eyes open, go in a direction you like and follow the things you enjoy. You won't be able to perfectly pick what you will do right now and that's fine, just pick something and analyse what you like and don't like. You'll get there eventually!
Herrk
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden271 Posts
October 27 2011 07:17 GMT
#30
I had fun assembling easy electronic devices when i was little, and thought to myself: "Can i do this for a living in the future? That would be awesome!"
I found the answer to be: "Not exactly, but almost!" which lead me in to an engineering path.

Now i have a master in aerospace engineering and are assembling electronic devices for aeroplanes, life is good.

However, if i were 18 again i would have chosen a shorter education path to try on different things without devoting my life to it, as there are an ocean of opportunities and interesting stuff out there. My advice is; choose a subject you're interested in and try get some small education in it to see how it is, or choose a work you may find interesting and see how it fits you.
Didn't make a comeback in LoTV...
Heyoka
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Katowice25012 Posts
October 27 2011 07:19 GMT
#31
I work in ESPORTS. That's probably not very helpful for you but I enjoy it a lot.
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AmericanUmlaut
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany2581 Posts
October 27 2011 07:24 GMT
#32
I wouldn't worry too much about it, just do what interests you, try to excel in it, and be ready to give it up and move on if you decide it isn't your thing. My undergrad started off as a Theater major, changed to Computer Science and ultimately ended up adding Japanese language because I got passinate about it, then I moved to Germany and got a masters in Japan Studies, realized my love of teaching wasn't enough to balance out the inanity of academia and got a job as a software engineer. Now I'm a lead developer for a little web app company and I love it.

As long as you stay flexible and give yourself the opportunity to try lots of things, you'll most likely end up somewhere you like in the end. You can make a good enough living at nearly anything if you are passionate about it and do it well.
The frumious Bandersnatch
michielbrands
Profile Joined June 2011
Netherlands1146 Posts
October 27 2011 07:27 GMT
#33
I quited my studie Civil Engineering (temporary I taught, was planning to restart the next schoolseason), During the free time I got due to that I started working by a installation/pipefitting company, I started out @ a big project (a Hospital they built) firstly I did more hand work but later on I was ask to help the Workplanner/preparer that went pretty good, arround the time the next schoolseason started they asked me wether I wanted to stay and they gave me a contract, and I started studies next to my work, Currently five years later I am grown pretty much and I have Built 3 hospitals already as a Workplanner/preparer and I like this work still each day =)
- me (L) competitive gaming -
Vamp
Profile Joined June 2008
United Kingdom184 Posts
October 27 2011 07:45 GMT
#34
I'm a Facilities Manager working for MITIE.

I never went to University, stopped at college and went straight in to full time work.
`';..;'` http://www.facebook.com/Vamp.Sc2
MikeTheBike
Profile Joined July 2011
New Zealand136 Posts
October 27 2011 07:51 GMT
#35
Yeah I have to admit my request was a bit broad xD. I'm looking into the field of science, for sure. Something like a Dentist or a GP in New Zealand, but I heard here the pay is slightly above mediocre, but the time it takes to get through Med School is not worth it.
LtLolburger
Profile Joined August 2010
New Zealand365 Posts
October 27 2011 08:10 GMT
#36
On October 27 2011 16:51 MikeTheBike wrote:
Yeah I have to admit my request was a bit broad xD. I'm looking into the field of science, for sure. Something like a Dentist or a GP in New Zealand, but I heard here the pay is slightly above mediocre, but the time it takes to get through Med School is not worth it.


I'm half way through med school at Auckland Uni, and strongly considering GP. Med school takes some work, but not hard, just lots to keep on top of. GP isn't that badly paid, especially if you want to work rural areas, you can do hugely well. Especially if you start up or take a share in a practice. But you don't really go into medicine for the money....

I also manage to sneak in some time for starcraft :D (but going further into clinical years my time for it will probably drop significantly...)
It is sometimes an appropriate response to reality to go insane. -Philip K. Dick
Beyonder
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands15103 Posts
October 27 2011 08:13 GMT
#37
Im a researcher at the Erasmus University Rotterdam right now for Educational Psychology, I hopefully receive a PhD position soon

Dont do this if you still want to play games
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Beyonder
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands15103 Posts
October 27 2011 08:14 GMT
#38
On October 27 2011 16:19 heyoka wrote:
I work in ESPORTS. That's probably not very helpful for you but I enjoy it a lot.

Do you get paid in ESPORTS currency?
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MikeTheBike
Profile Joined July 2011
New Zealand136 Posts
October 27 2011 08:17 GMT
#39
My biggest fear is that I'll have no free time if I choose to become a GP, I can be a very dedicated person when it comes to studies if I put my mind to it, but a GP/Doctor sounds like so much of a hassle.
Ammoth
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden391 Posts
October 27 2011 08:28 GMT
#40
I always liked math and science classes better than english and stuff like that. I suppose the system is different in sweden but for our "high school" I choose a technological path and there I had alot of classes involving graphic design and stuff.

I didn't really care for that and now I'm studying civil engineering at Chalmers university in Gothenburg. And so far I couldn't be happier. Don't be afraid to try stuff out, sure you might "lose" a few months but the experience can still be really nice even if you don't like everything and decides not to continue!

Gl in the future
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