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On September 17 2011 13:13 hazelynut wrote:
What's wrong with the sorting? I'm not sure if I'm seeing the same thing...
The sorting only sorts the entries on the current page instead of every entry. For example if I wanted to find someone with the character ID 'zyzyz', I should be able to do reverse sorting by character and have it pop up at the top, however ZestyPickle appears at the top, with no other Characters that start with Z, so in order to find zyzyz, I have to do a sort in every single page until I find it.
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For the 2v2 is Skype allowed between teammates? I didn't see anything in the rules regarding this, thanks.
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On September 18 2011 02:34 RyanS wrote:
For the 2v2 is Skype allowed between teammates? I didn't see anything in the rules regarding this, thanks.
Yes it is
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Whose idea was it to sort schools by region... there is some huge discrepancy in competitiveness between the divisions. This would not fly in a real tournament.
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On September 18 2011 04:37 adrenaLinG wrote:
Whose idea was it to sort schools by region... there is some huge discrepancy in competitiveness between the divisions. This would not fly in a real tournament.
Can you name me a pro sports league in America whose divisions are NOT sorted geographically?
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A lot of schools requested they be sorted with nearby schools.
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Is it too late to make a CSL team at my school for this season? I realize the deadline has passed and completely understand if it's too late. I just found out the UPenn team is suspended. I've met with some people who would be interested in playing, and we would accept a forfeit for the games already played.
I realize it's a huge hassle for you and not very likely, but I just wanted to make sure. Thanks!
Edit: I sent you guys an email as well but you don't have to respond to both that and this. Either is fine. Thanks again.
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"Lineups for Sunday Divisions are due Thursday night, 11:59pm PST"
Has that officially been changed to Tuesday 11:59pm PST? The deadline still says Tuesday when I try to submit line-ups for the second week.
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On September 18 2011 05:15 TestSubject893 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 18 2011 04:37 adrenaLinG wrote:
Whose idea was it to sort schools by region... there is some huge discrepancy in competitiveness between the divisions. This would not fly in a real tournament. Can you name me a pro sports league in America whose divisions are NOT sorted geographically?
Pro Sports Leagues are played in-person, not online. I'm sure if travel convenience was not a priority, they'd do it differently.
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On September 20 2011 01:40 Torte de Lini wrote:Show nested quote +On September 18 2011 05:15 TestSubject893 wrote:On September 18 2011 04:37 adrenaLinG wrote:
Whose idea was it to sort schools by region... there is some huge discrepancy in competitiveness between the divisions. This would not fly in a real tournament. Can you name me a pro sports league in America whose divisions are NOT sorted geographically? Pro Sports Leagues are played in-person, not online. I'm sure if travel convenience was not a priority, they'd do it differently.
There are in fact regional LANs, so travel is a priority here too.
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Have you guys thought about adding CSL matches to the TL calendar? Not a separate event for each match, but one event during each of the Thursday/Friday/Saturday/Sunday match times, so casters from the schools can list their streams under the event and get more people watching/interested in the CSL.
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On September 18 2011 05:15 TestSubject893 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 18 2011 04:37 adrenaLinG wrote:
Whose idea was it to sort schools by region... there is some huge discrepancy in competitiveness between the divisions. This would not fly in a real tournament. Can you name me a pro sports league in America whose divisions are NOT sorted geographically?
Are you kidding me? I'm all for "e-sports" but this is like pitting the Little League against the Mariners.
Compare for example, Andromeda Division and Nova Division.
Andromeda Division has no single school with a grand masters, and the majority of schools have one or none masters players.
Nova Division has two schools with two grand masters, and the majority of schools have an entire roster of five or more high masters players.
I don't care about geographical distribution for emulating "real sports" when it's creating huge gaps in fair skill play and making it unfair whereby some divisions are way competitive than others. Making it Top 4 in one division means beating out Grand Masters players -- where other divisions, it means just beating diamond players. You call this making it an "e-sport"?
And even if it was based on geography, why is Kwantlen Polytechnic University in the Andromeda when every other Western Canadian school is in Nova?
On September 18 2011 05:17 shindigs wrote:
A lot of schools requested they be sorted with nearby schools.
Well let me formally request not to be sorted with nearby schools.
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On September 19 2011 23:18 Kinky wrote:
"Lineups for Sunday Divisions are due Thursday night, 11:59pm PST"
Has that officially been changed to Tuesday 11:59pm PST? The deadline still says Tuesday when I try to submit line-ups for the second week.
All lineups are due Tuesday. This info will be corrected soon, thanks for pointing it out.
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On September 20 2011 05:51 adrenaLinG wrote:Show nested quote +On September 18 2011 05:15 TestSubject893 wrote:On September 18 2011 04:37 adrenaLinG wrote:
Whose idea was it to sort schools by region... there is some huge discrepancy in competitiveness between the divisions. This would not fly in a real tournament. Can you name me a pro sports league in America whose divisions are NOT sorted geographically? Are you kidding me? I'm all for "e-sports" but this is like pitting the Little League against the Mariners. Compare for example, Andromeda Division and Nova Division. Andromeda Division has no single school with a grand masters, and the majority of schools have one or none masters players. Nova Division has two schools with two grand masters, and the majority of schools have an entire roster of five or more high masters players. I don't care about geographical distribution for emulating "real sports" when it's creating huge gaps in fair skill play and making it unfair whereby some divisions are way competitive than others. Making it Top 4 in one division means beating out Grand Masters players -- where other divisions, it means just beating diamond players. You call this making it an "e-sport"? And even if it was based on geography, why is Kwantlen Polytechnic University in the Andromeda when every other Western Canadian school is in Nova? Show nested quote +On September 18 2011 05:17 shindigs wrote:
A lot of schools requested they be sorted with nearby schools. Well let me formally request not to be sorted with nearby schools.
Only half of the season is played within your division, while the second half is played with schools in other divisions. Your total score and playoff qualifications are based off your performance within your division and also against schools outside your division. This is meant to balance such skill gaps.
For example, say a school in a division with no masters players gets top of their division. They are then pitted against other schools in other divisions (Rank 1-9) in the second half of the season. Schools from all divisions will be playing other schools of all skill levels. A perk of this format is when we make divisions, we can have these divisions where schools won't be frustrated getting 3-0 every week.
We're balancing competition and accessibility, and we feel the format is a good compromise.
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On September 20 2011 05:51 adrenaLinG wrote:Show nested quote +On September 18 2011 05:15 TestSubject893 wrote:On September 18 2011 04:37 adrenaLinG wrote:
Whose idea was it to sort schools by region... there is some huge discrepancy in competitiveness between the divisions. This would not fly in a real tournament. Can you name me a pro sports league in America whose divisions are NOT sorted geographically? Are you kidding me? I'm all for "e-sports" but this is like pitting the Little League against the Mariners. Compare for example, Andromeda Division and Nova Division. Andromeda Division has no single school with a grand masters, and the majority of schools have one or none masters players. Nova Division has two schools with two grand masters, and the majority of schools have an entire roster of five or more high masters players. I don't care about geographical distribution for emulating "real sports" when it's creating huge gaps in fair skill play and making it unfair whereby some divisions are way competitive than others. Making it Top 4 in one division means beating out Grand Masters players -- where other divisions, it means just beating diamond players. You call this making it an "e-sport"? And even if it was based on geography, why is Kwantlen Polytechnic University in the Andromeda when every other Western Canadian school is in Nova? Show nested quote +On September 18 2011 05:17 shindigs wrote:
A lot of schools requested they be sorted with nearby schools. Well let me formally request not to be sorted with nearby schools.
Hey dood. To answer your question:
1) Schools voted to have divisions sorted geographically. We tried our best to accommodate everyone as much as possible. Obviously this wasn't 100% possible, some people got left out, etc.
2) This means that there might be some skill imbalance in divisions because there are regional skill imbalances.
3) Inter-division play is one measure that we're taking to help alleviate this.
There is no perfect way to do it, but we feel like this is most reasonable for what we're trying to accomplish. Thanks for your concern though!! We want to make the CSL as enjoyable as possible for everyone 
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adrenaLinG, In addition to the points that Xeris made, you might want to consider that over half of the teams will make the playoffs. If you are a championship level team, there is no way you'll be missing the playoffs unless you lose several games against teams worse than you. (In which case I think we could all agree, such a team would not deserve to be in the playoffs.)
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I seem to have misplaced certain info in my head. Alas, the pointer is gone. Anyhows, when exactly is the first lan? I recall it being in November but not whether or not it conflicts with MLG Providence (Nov 18-20).
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lol talk about geography imba... on left hand side is fox division with waterloo #2 NA with whole bunch of new schools. Mean while on right handside UCDavis and UC Berkley fighting with guns and blood 
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