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shavi
Profile Joined July 2010
United States127 Posts
June 21 2011 13:52 GMT
#1221
On June 21 2011 22:52 charcute wrote:
How to know if this thread is a geek one?? people writes about everything but women' body on a miss USA thread.


Excuse us if we judge by the content of character and ideas more than outward appearance.
WhiteDog
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France8650 Posts
June 21 2011 15:33 GMT
#1222
Sad she did not win thought, when you put your heart in something, whatever your beliefs are, it's always hard to fail.
Well I'm not saying I support all that shit about intelligent design.

Keep up the motivation Anna, cheer!
"every time WhiteDog overuses the word "seriously" in a comment I can make an observation on his fragile emotional state." MoltkeWarding
AntiGrav1ty
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2310 Posts
June 21 2011 17:39 GMT
#1223
So Anna Prosser is a creationist?
www.twitch.tv/antigrav1ty
yawnoC
Profile Joined December 2010
United States3704 Posts
June 21 2011 19:45 GMT
#1224
Hopefully an admin closes this soon. The contest is over and the discussion is just people puffing up there chests on the net at this point.
GG - UNiVeRsE is the best player in the WORLD
Kaitlin
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2958 Posts
June 21 2011 19:49 GMT
#1225
What is wrong with what Anna said ? She said evolution should be taught, but also the fact that others believe differently should also be taught. Is it not important to know that there are people who don't believe in evolution ? If I were teaching evolution, I would have no problem pointing out the fact that it's simply a theory, along side Relativity and Gravity.
Myrdin
Profile Joined October 2010
United Kingdom47 Posts
June 21 2011 20:00 GMT
#1226
The problem is Scientists and the Public use the word "Theory" differently.

Theory in science is a very well rounded peer reviewed model that explains almost all data available.

Theory to the public means a guess.

Its quite different. Either way I don't know why this is such a big issue on a Miss America thread, those girls pretty much forced to voice popular opinion whether they believe it or not if they want to win.
grs
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Germany2339 Posts
June 21 2011 20:01 GMT
#1227
As much as I despise creationism, I think it is unfair to bash her: the question itself was stupid and with the weired, wrong, but sadly existent belief that evolution contrasts christian religion, it is hard to give an answer in a popularity contest.
Miles_Edgeworth
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States141 Posts
June 21 2011 20:01 GMT
#1228
I went to a Catholic High School, and we learned about Evolution. Intelligent Design was only ever mentioned in Religion classes, and even there they only provided reasoning why both could have occurred, instead of dismissing evolution.
SuperStyle
Profile Joined March 2011
United States976 Posts
June 21 2011 20:10 GMT
#1229
On May 12 2011 19:28 SuperStyle wrote:
California for me, Georgia comes 2nd

Called it, that girl is just tooo damn pretty.
dUTtrOACh
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada2339 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-21 20:56:04
June 21 2011 20:54 GMT
#1230
I'm glad it's over.
twitch.tv/duttroach
Shaetan
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1175 Posts
June 21 2011 21:13 GMT
#1231
On June 22 2011 05:00 Myrdin wrote:
The problem is Scientists and the Public use the word "Theory" differently.

Theory in science is a very well rounded peer reviewed model that explains almost all data available.

Theory to the public means a guess.

Its quite different.


This a thousand times. But yea this thread is going nowhere good
My Casts: www.youtube.com/Shaetan
SpiritAshura
Profile Joined March 2007
United States1271 Posts
June 21 2011 21:25 GMT
#1232
On June 21 2011 22:52 charcute wrote:
How to know if this thread is a geek one?? people writes about everything but women' body on a miss USA thread.

lol...

I'm really surprised there's so many ignorant people on these forums sometimes.
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-21 21:39:32
June 21 2011 21:38 GMT
#1233
On June 21 2011 21:39 kpzd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2011 21:35 Roflhaxx wrote:
On June 21 2011 21:02 Batch wrote:
On June 21 2011 18:49 Starstuff wrote:
This really made me sad



authors info is spot on.

After I watched all answers in this video I actually don't think Anna's answer was as bad as I first thought. I'm still kind of chocked the question even exists...

What time did she say it? I can't seem to find it.


that "Every Theory of how we came to be should get a shoutout."

And I agree.

Every scientific theory should get a shoutout.

The thing is, there are no other scientific theories on the origin of species. Evolution is 100 % certain from a scientific point of view. Reading this thread one gets indeed the impression many Americans believe there are several conflicting ideas about this. That is of course nonsense.

"God created everything in 7 days" is not a scientific theory, so why teach it in biology? It belongs in religious courses.

Seems like creationists were somewhat succesful in supressing scientific findings with religious ideas. Its just sad.

Off-season = best season
eVolvE342
Profile Joined January 2011
157 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-21 21:54:25
June 21 2011 21:52 GMT
#1234
On June 22 2011 06:38 Redox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2011 21:39 kpzd wrote:
On June 21 2011 21:35 Roflhaxx wrote:
On June 21 2011 21:02 Batch wrote:
On June 21 2011 18:49 Starstuff wrote:
This really made me sad

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ay7srP7lOlE

authors info is spot on.

After I watched all answers in this video I actually don't think Anna's answer was as bad as I first thought. I'm still kind of chocked the question even exists...

What time did she say it? I can't seem to find it.


that "Every Theory of how we came to be should get a shoutout."

And I agree.

Every scientific theory should get a shoutout.

The thing is, there are no other scientific theories on the origin of species. Evolution is 100 % certain from a scientific point of view. Reading this thread one gets indeed the impression many Americans believe there are several conflicting ideas about this. That is of course nonsense.

"God created everything in 7 days" is not a scientific theory, so why teach it in biology? It belongs in religious courses.

Seems like creationists were somewhat succesful in supressing scientific findings with religious ideas. Its just sad.



while i agree with your message (i majored in ecology and evolutionary biology) i would have to say that no one is 100% certain about anything in science. to be 100% certain of something is the opposite of science

EDIT: also i do have to say i voted a lot for anna! I am sorry she did not win but she seems like she has a lot going on besides miss usa so the best of luck to her in her future endeavors
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
June 21 2011 22:00 GMT
#1235
On June 22 2011 06:52 eVolvE342 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2011 06:38 Redox wrote:
On June 21 2011 21:39 kpzd wrote:
On June 21 2011 21:35 Roflhaxx wrote:
On June 21 2011 21:02 Batch wrote:
On June 21 2011 18:49 Starstuff wrote:
This really made me sad

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ay7srP7lOlE

authors info is spot on.

After I watched all answers in this video I actually don't think Anna's answer was as bad as I first thought. I'm still kind of chocked the question even exists...

What time did she say it? I can't seem to find it.


that "Every Theory of how we came to be should get a shoutout."

And I agree.

Every scientific theory should get a shoutout.

The thing is, there are no other scientific theories on the origin of species. Evolution is 100 % certain from a scientific point of view. Reading this thread one gets indeed the impression many Americans believe there are several conflicting ideas about this. That is of course nonsense.

"God created everything in 7 days" is not a scientific theory, so why teach it in biology? It belongs in religious courses.

Seems like creationists were somewhat succesful in supressing scientific findings with religious ideas. Its just sad.



while i agree with your message (i majored in ecology and evolutionary biology) i would have to say that no one is 100% certain about anything in science. to be 100% certain of something is the opposite of science

Yeah I know that very well being a scientist myself. Even when you run against a wall, its not 100 % certain you will collide whith it. There is a really really low theoretical possibility you can pass through it. Of course it is so small that it will "never" happen.

The problem is, if you dont use terms like "100 %", many non-scientists will immediately think you are not certain about it. Something creationists apparently took advantage of.
Off-season = best season
zeru
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
8156 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-21 22:08:31
June 21 2011 22:07 GMT
#1236
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Euronyme
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden3804 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-21 22:17:42
June 21 2011 22:15 GMT
#1237
On June 22 2011 05:00 Myrdin wrote:
The problem is Scientists and the Public use the word "Theory" differently.

Theory in science is a very well rounded peer reviewed model that explains almost all data available.

Theory to the public means a guess.

Its quite different. Either way I don't know why this is such a big issue on a Miss America thread, those girls pretty much forced to voice popular opinion whether they believe it or not if they want to win.


Yeah what people don't seem to understand that a theory is as far as you can go in science, as you can never prove anything, as there might be implausible other explanations, and such do consistantly pop up. Who knows, maybe things keep falling because of alien spaceships and not because of gravity.
That's about as far as you have to go though, and the likelyhood of disproving the evolution is fairly slim.
[This has nothing to do with religion. The evolution is a fact that many religious embrace.]

edit: Ok what I said was appearantly said 15 times on this page alone. Sorry for wasting space.
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SixPackAbs
Profile Joined September 2010
United States160 Posts
June 21 2011 22:29 GMT
#1238
But you guys.....Chickens from dinosaurs??? yah right i mean come on....more like devolution.

Someone asked earlier...in my high school we learned about evolution in biology class, and talked briefly about religious theories in our history class. we went over different religions from different parts of the world and learned about their creation theories and beliefs.
Random()
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Kyrgyz Republic1462 Posts
June 21 2011 23:59 GMT
#1239
On June 22 2011 07:07 zeru wrote:
I dont even understand why people still think evolution is something you believe in or not, to me its the same as saying gravity is something you believe or not believe in. It's there wether you like it or not. Oh well.


Well you obviously cannot deny the evolution of species, but claiming that life itself has evolved from some random molecules that randomly happened to assume a very peculiar configuration that randomly started what we know as life today sounds like a theory to me You can claim that it is the most plausible explanation that we have but you still have no way to prove that it is true, haven't you?
shavi
Profile Joined July 2010
United States127 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-22 00:17:11
June 22 2011 00:13 GMT
#1240
On June 22 2011 08:59 Random() wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2011 07:07 zeru wrote:
I dont even understand why people still think evolution is something you believe in or not, to me its the same as saying gravity is something you believe or not believe in. It's there wether you like it or not. Oh well.


Well you obviously cannot deny the evolution of species, but claiming that life itself has evolved from some random molecules that randomly happened to assume a very peculiar configuration that randomly started what we know as life today sounds like a theory to me You can claim that it is the most plausible explanation that we have but you still have no way to prove that it is true, haven't you?



You're still going on about how it's a "theory" like you haven't read the last 2 pages saying that theories are pretty much the end all with science. Of course it's not "proven" because nothing in science is ever really proven. Things are always being updated, new research is being uncovered and the world is constantly changing. If you trust the science that says things evolve then you must trust the science that says we started from single celled organisms. You can't just pick parts of a theory to agree with. It baffles me how people can go "oh sure we are evolving everyday and everything around me is evolving but that doesn't mean we didn't just pop up here one day out of thin air."


You can believe in intelligent design and still accept evolution because it's sound science. Evolution itself is even accepted by the catholic church
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