EPTAnna Prosser for Miss USA - Page 48
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Forak
Netherlands64 Posts
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John Acton
Sweden13 Posts
On June 15 2011 03:37 Roe wrote: It's, in one phrase, the teleological theory saying that since life appears to be fantastic and so wondrous, someone must have designed it. This is often backed up by the watchmaker argument: a man wondering through the desert finds a watch, he must conclude that someone designed it. Part 2 is that someone must be god. And then part 3 is where Darwin read Paley and just loved the theory so much he had to come up with one of his own. Comes up with natural selection and thus proved Paley wrong. Everyone goes apeshit (lol) about his theory. Your theory doesn't require the existance of a God! Oh no!! Part 4 We sequence the genome. The discussion is now 100% dead. There is nothing more to talk about. | ||
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randplaty
205 Posts
Stop fooling yourselves. Teaching evolution in schools is the same as advocating atheism. Watch the video above. Dawkins knows that evolution = atheism. That is why religious people want ID taught alongside evolution. You cannot separate science from religion and philosophy. That's a fallacy and a complete misunderstanding of epistemology. | ||
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Charger
United States2405 Posts
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Overpowered
Czech Republic764 Posts
ID shouldnt be taught in schools, because schools are "academic and educational" objects and therefore there is no place for hypothesis without ANY evidence or proof whatsoever. Science should be taught in schools and ID is very opposite of it. On June 15 2011 03:52 Charger wrote: How in the hell is this thread about religion?! Because Anna basically rejected evolution and proposed teaching ID in schools. | ||
KwarK
United States41946 Posts
On June 15 2011 03:48 randplaty wrote: Dawkins on Atheismhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VxGMqKCcN6A Stop fooling yourselves. Teaching evolution in schools is the same as advocating atheism. Watch the video above. Dawkins knows that evolution = atheism. That is why religious people want ID taught alongside evolution. You cannot separate science from religion and philosophy. That's a fallacy and a complete misunderstanding of epistemology. Just because a religious individual can ignore scientific facts and make a leap of faith doesn't mean it is their religious duty to do so at all times. There is no inherent contradiction, you can believe in God and recognise that evolution and the mechanics by which it works can and have been demonstrated. We don't get this bullshit over gravity, also a scientific theory. There's no campaign to have an invisible strong man pushing things down in proportion to their mass taught alongside gravity, why should there be for evolution. | ||
JWD
United States12607 Posts
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Linkirvana
Netherlands365 Posts
On June 15 2011 03:48 randplaty wrote: Dawkins on Atheismhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VxGMqKCcN6A Stop fooling yourselves. Teaching evolution in schools is the same as advocating atheism. Watch the video above. Dawkins knows that evolution = atheism. That is why religious people want ID taught alongside evolution. You cannot separate science from religion and philosophy. That's a fallacy and a complete misunderstanding of epistemology. Wait what? This thread is about what now? XD Several religions accept evolution. Therefor evolution does not mean atheism, it doesn't even imply atheism. The only reason people think of atheism when someone mentions evolution is well, it's one of those good old popular arguments atheists like to use against people in favor of religions which do not accept evolution. :Edit: Gogo Anna! Spent all my votes (I think atleast) =D | ||
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L3g3nd_
New Zealand10461 Posts
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Randomaccount#77123
United States5003 Posts
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Overpowered
Czech Republic764 Posts
On June 15 2011 04:13 Barrin wrote: All we have to do is be clear that it is a THEORY, and guess what, the "theory of evolution" has the word "theory" in it's name. Yes, but theory doesnt mean hypothesis - gravity is theory also. People seem to misunderstand this difference and then they say "blablba evolution is JUST a theory!!!!". | ||
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Moonling
United States987 Posts
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Zharak
Sweden106 Posts
 An easy and honest vote!Good luck Anna! | ||
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vi4t0r
Poland40 Posts
and even if the lady isn't really my type, i'd still give her the props for taking a shot | ||
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shindigs
United States4795 Posts
On June 13 2011 06:08 iNcontroL wrote: the great destroyer of TL The Religious Debate!!! Go find a thread that isn't absolutely ruined by a bunch of people going over and over and over the most beaten dead horse on the planet. Sounds like the next topic State of the Game should tackle. | ||
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BlackMagister
United States5834 Posts
The current Pope and previous Popes accept evolution http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_Church_and_evolution#Pope_Benedict_XVI_and_today Creationism is a religious theory, but not all religions/Christians need to accept creationism. If atheists/agnostics fight back supporting evolution it still does not make it an atheist ideology. Evolution is not incompatible with all religious, notably Kenneth Miller who argued for evolution in the Kitzmiller v. Dover Area School District is Catholic. ON TOPIC This is the second to last day of voting right? Get your votes in if you want to support Anna. | ||
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hicks91
United Kingdom50 Posts
On June 15 2011 03:48 randplaty wrote: Dawkins on Atheismhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VxGMqKCcN6A Stop fooling yourselves. Teaching evolution in schools is the same as advocating atheism. Watch the video above. Dawkins knows that evolution = atheism. That is why religious people want ID taught alongside evolution. You cannot separate science from religion and philosophy. That's a fallacy and a complete misunderstanding of epistemology. I wish there were more atheists willing to fight. Religion has had its chance to do good and look what happened........ You can't separate science from philosophy but religion? Don't embarrass yourself I really wanna vote for anna because she is chill as heck but this is such an important issue why this issue anna its worse than if you were to say zerg have the advantage over protoss | ||
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puttputt
Canada240 Posts
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hicks91
United Kingdom50 Posts
On June 15 2011 04:54 puttputt wrote: Guys chill out. You have to remember that Anna is in a popularity contest, and if she said her (probably) true feelings on the subject she would be offending a large portion of America. This is a no-no for popularity contests! She said that all views should be taught in schools to not offend the hardcore christians that the USA has. Why do you automatically assume these aren't her views? Other Miss U.S.A contestants have come out against creationism so don't give that bull that it's so she doesn't lose votes | ||
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randplaty
205 Posts
On June 15 2011 04:13 Barrin wrote: Very untrue... it's advocating agnosticism not theism. All we have to do is be clear that it is a THEORY, and guess what, the "theory of evolution" has the word "theory" in it's name. Go to 20:45 in that video... Darwin himself considered himself agnostic. Dawkins makes the argument that agnosticism is only a polite version of atheism. | ||
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