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Don't post in this thread to say "gay gamers are like everyone else, why do they have a special thread?" It is something that has been posted numerous times, and this isn't the place for that discussion.

For regular posters, don't quote the trolls.
Shiragaku
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Hong Kong4308 Posts
May 20 2011 22:45 GMT
#1621
On May 21 2011 05:33 platorepublic wrote:
Oh MAN boy.... Lol. Just lol.

Awww,,,do not be mean. But you have to admit he is really cute despite the silly song :D
platorepublic
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United Kingdom344 Posts
May 20 2011 22:47 GMT
#1622
He's alright I guess.
Even though I've never met you, I still miss you.
dunc
Profile Joined November 2010
Netherlands1105 Posts
May 20 2011 23:41 GMT
#1623
I can feel you in my dreamssssssssss.

and yeah he has a nice face, not my type though!
Shiragaku
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Hong Kong4308 Posts
May 20 2011 23:50 GMT
#1624
On May 21 2011 08:41 dunc wrote:
I can feel you in my dreamssssssssss.

and yeah he has a nice face, not my type though!

Twinks no? Are you a bear guy?
dunc
Profile Joined November 2010
Netherlands1105 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-21 00:02:33
May 20 2011 23:55 GMT
#1625
On May 21 2011 08:50 Shiragaku wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2011 08:41 dunc wrote:
I can feel you in my dreamssssssssss.

and yeah he has a nice face, not my type though!

Twinks no? Are you a bear guy?


No, I don;t like bears :[ I'm more attracted to ehm.. exotic looking guys(mixed or like latino) with lack of a better definition

that said guys with british accents are the best i cant wait till i move in july surrounded by british guys omg!
Shiragaku
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Hong Kong4308 Posts
May 21 2011 00:24 GMT
#1626
On May 21 2011 08:55 dunc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2011 08:50 Shiragaku wrote:
On May 21 2011 08:41 dunc wrote:
I can feel you in my dreamssssssssss.

and yeah he has a nice face, not my type though!

Twinks no? Are you a bear guy?


No, I don;t like bears :[ I'm more attracted to ehm.. exotic looking guys(mixed or like latino) with lack of a better definition

that said guys with british accents are the best i cant wait till i move in july surrounded by british guys omg!

:D
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dunc
Profile Joined November 2010
Netherlands1105 Posts
May 21 2011 01:07 GMT
#1627
On May 21 2011 09:24 Shiragaku wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2011 08:55 dunc wrote:
On May 21 2011 08:50 Shiragaku wrote:
On May 21 2011 08:41 dunc wrote:
I can feel you in my dreamssssssssss.

and yeah he has a nice face, not my type though!

Twinks no? Are you a bear guy?


No, I don;t like bears :[ I'm more attracted to ehm.. exotic looking guys(mixed or like latino) with lack of a better definition

that said guys with british accents are the best i cant wait till i move in july surrounded by british guys omg!

:D
[image loading]


rofl ++
appe
Profile Joined April 2009
Sweden149 Posts
May 21 2011 01:40 GMT
#1628
This would have been more relevant 30~ pages back during the "feminime guy" discussion, but yeah. I actually came out to my friends after attending a party where this flamboyant guy kept talking about how slutty he was and how big his boyfriends dick was. After he left and there was only me and a few friends left. I asked them if they thought all gay guys were like that. They said "well yeah.. but no.. isn't that was being gay is?". Then I told them I was gay. Made no sense to them of course with me being a "normal straight acting nerdy gamer who also likes sports", but it was an eye opener for them. They were actually mad at me for not telling them sooner. :D

It's interesting to see the difference in acceptance from various parts of Europe and from America. The passive-aggresive/religious straight Americans coming into this thread trying to make sense of it all cracks me up. We're gay, what the fuck can we do about it? :D. In my semi-smallish town it's actually pretty black and white: either people hate your guts or they do all they can to show you their support. Like I'm some kind of little baby bird with a broken wing who needs all help in the world. I know they mean well of course, so I'm just thankful for it.

Too bad iNcontroL ain't coming to Dreamhack. Getting a big bear hug from him would have made my week!
dunc
Profile Joined November 2010
Netherlands1105 Posts
May 21 2011 02:59 GMT
#1629
On May 21 2011 10:40 appe wrote:
This would have been more relevant 30~ pages back during the "feminime guy" discussion, but yeah. I actually came out to my friends after attending a party where this flamboyant guy kept talking about how slutty he was and how big his boyfriends dick was. After he left and there was only me and a few friends left. I asked them if they thought all gay guys were like that. They said "well yeah.. but no.. isn't that was being gay is?". Then I told them I was gay. Made no sense to them of course with me being a "normal straight acting nerdy gamer who also likes sports", but it was an eye opener for them. They were actually mad at me for not telling them sooner. :D

It's interesting to see the difference in acceptance from various parts of Europe and from America. The passive-aggresive/religious straight Americans coming into this thread trying to make sense of it all cracks me up. We're gay, what the fuck can we do about it? :D. In my semi-smallish town it's actually pretty black and white: either people hate your guts or they do all they can to show you their support. Like I'm some kind of little baby bird with a broken wing who needs all help in the world. I know they mean well of course, so I'm just thankful for it.


Glad your friends were all so accepting, sure it must feel great! I argued about it on those pages and some people got pretty angry but yes, I hate that most people seem to think those kind of people are the only homosexuals. I'd rather not be compared to them.

I know quite a few Swedish people and they seem especially accepting over there.. well, pretty much every Scandinavian guy I know acts gayer than most gay people and it's really fun to talk with them since they're so open about stuff despite being straight. It's cool when people are accepting and open to stuff rather than think everything they're not familiar with is disgusting :o
appe
Profile Joined April 2009
Sweden149 Posts
May 21 2011 03:18 GMT
#1630
On May 21 2011 11:59 dunc wrote:
Glad your friends were all so accepting, sure it must feel great! I argued about it on those pages and some people got pretty angry but yes, I hate that most people seem to think those kind of people are the only homosexuals. I'd rather not be compared to them.

I know quite a few Swedish people and they seem especially accepting over there.. well, pretty much every Scandinavian guy I know acts gayer than most gay people and it's really fun to talk with them since they're so open about stuff despite being straight. It's cool when people are accepting and open to stuff rather than think everything they're not familiar with is disgusting :o


Indeed it feels great! Most of my closest friends are straight gamer guys with a lazy personality, so them not giving a fuck wasn't much of a suprise .

I've always felt the same way about being compared. I think that's why it took so long for me to accept being gay and to come out (2~ years ago).

Haha, tell that to a Finnish guy and watch his face turn wrinkled and red! But yeah, pretty hard to live in such a modern society and NOT be accepting. Most above average iq persons I know think it's hillbillyish to not be. It's 2011 after all.
MustSeeSC
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States83 Posts
May 21 2011 03:21 GMT
#1631
Are there any openly gay starcraft pros? Korean or Foreigner
"Cry in the Dojo, Laugh in the Battlefield"
dunc
Profile Joined November 2010
Netherlands1105 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-21 03:26:32
May 21 2011 03:26 GMT
#1632
On May 21 2011 12:18 appe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2011 11:59 dunc wrote:
Glad your friends were all so accepting, sure it must feel great! I argued about it on those pages and some people got pretty angry but yes, I hate that most people seem to think those kind of people are the only homosexuals. I'd rather not be compared to them.

I know quite a few Swedish people and they seem especially accepting over there.. well, pretty much every Scandinavian guy I know acts gayer than most gay people and it's really fun to talk with them since they're so open about stuff despite being straight. It's cool when people are accepting and open to stuff rather than think everything they're not familiar with is disgusting :o


Indeed it feels great! Most of my closest friends are straight gamer guys with a lazy personality, so them not giving a fuck wasn't much of a suprise .

I've always felt the same way about being compared. I think that's why it took so long for me to accept being gay and to come out (2~ years ago).

Haha, tell that to a Finnish guy and watch his face turn wrinkled and red! But yeah, pretty hard to live in such a modern society and NOT be accepting. Most above average iq persons I know think it's hillbillyish to not be. It's 2011 after all.


Oh yea my bad for not including Fins I actually only know 1 who's a hardcore metal fan rofl, but most of the Danish/Norwegian/Swedish guys I know seem ehm.. curious and very open about stuff. I agree with the modern society thing :o eventhough at my school I didn't really tell anyone(except close friends) since there was an overflow of religious people and I couldn't be bothered dealing with that

On May 21 2011 12:21 MustSeeSC wrote:
Are there any openly gay starcraft pros? Korean or Foreigner


Nope!
PinkStatic
Profile Joined April 2011
Singapore11 Posts
May 21 2011 04:11 GMT
#1633
On May 21 2011 10:40 appe wrote:
This would have been more relevant 30~ pages back during the "feminime guy" discussion, but yeah. I actually came out to my friends after attending a party where this flamboyant guy kept talking about how slutty he was and how big his boyfriends dick was. After he left and there was only me and a few friends left. I asked them if they thought all gay guys were like that. They said "well yeah.. but no.. isn't that was being gay is?". Then I told them I was gay. Made no sense to them of course with me being a "normal straight acting nerdy gamer who also likes sports", but it was an eye opener for them. They were actually mad at me for not telling them sooner. :D

It's interesting to see the difference in acceptance from various parts of Europe and from America. The passive-aggresive/religious straight Americans coming into this thread trying to make sense of it all cracks me up. We're gay, what the fuck can we do about it? :D. In my semi-smallish town it's actually pretty black and white: either people hate your guts or they do all they can to show you their support. Like I'm some kind of little baby bird with a broken wing who needs all help in the world. I know they mean well of course, so I'm just thankful for it.

Too bad iNcontroL ain't coming to Dreamhack. Getting a big bear hug from him would have made my week!


It makes me disappointed that your gay friend would make such a scene like that, and that your friends would subsequently create that association in their heads. Somehow I feel that many homosexual guys, in their quest for validation and being "out-and-proud", go too far and perpetuate this stereotype. I personally think it's horrible.

In the transgendered world you have something similar in drag queens. They too portray a stereotype by - although not necessarily being the majority, being the loudest. You know, knowing "i will survive" by heart and calling everything "fabulous" and wearing too much make up/ dressing scantily all the time.

It's kind of like America - lot's of nice Americans, but there's a tendency to associate the American with "loud, fat, ignorant, arrogant". And the loudest ones usually are.

It's it's not their fault, society tends to work that way. Sometimes, discrimination and a desire to be "go against the tide" (a tide also created by society) and become proud of oneself results in extreme, exaggerated actions and "loudness".

I just hope one day people understand that an attraction to males is not the same as sexual promiscuity.
startover
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States35 Posts
May 21 2011 05:49 GMT
#1634
I'm always amazed how hypocritical people can be.on one hand you don't want people to judge you for liking boys on the other you turn around and judge yourself.
matjlav
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Germany2435 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-21 06:39:07
May 21 2011 06:18 GMT
#1635
On May 21 2011 13:11 PinkStatic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2011 10:40 appe wrote:
This would have been more relevant 30~ pages back during the "feminime guy" discussion, but yeah. I actually came out to my friends after attending a party where this flamboyant guy kept talking about how slutty he was and how big his boyfriends dick was. After he left and there was only me and a few friends left. I asked them if they thought all gay guys were like that. They said "well yeah.. but no.. isn't that was being gay is?". Then I told them I was gay. Made no sense to them of course with me being a "normal straight acting nerdy gamer who also likes sports", but it was an eye opener for them. They were actually mad at me for not telling them sooner. :D

It's interesting to see the difference in acceptance from various parts of Europe and from America. The passive-aggresive/religious straight Americans coming into this thread trying to make sense of it all cracks me up. We're gay, what the fuck can we do about it? :D. In my semi-smallish town it's actually pretty black and white: either people hate your guts or they do all they can to show you their support. Like I'm some kind of little baby bird with a broken wing who needs all help in the world. I know they mean well of course, so I'm just thankful for it.

Too bad iNcontroL ain't coming to Dreamhack. Getting a big bear hug from him would have made my week!


It makes me disappointed that your gay friend would make such a scene like that, and that your friends would subsequently create that association in their heads. Somehow I feel that many homosexual guys, in their quest for validation and being "out-and-proud", go too far and perpetuate this stereotype. I personally think it's horrible.

In the transgendered world you have something similar in drag queens. They too portray a stereotype by - although not necessarily being the majority, being the loudest. You know, knowing "i will survive" by heart and calling everything "fabulous" and wearing too much make up/ dressing scantily all the time.

It's kind of like America - lot's of nice Americans, but there's a tendency to associate the American with "loud, fat, ignorant, arrogant". And the loudest ones usually are.

It's it's not their fault, society tends to work that way. Sometimes, discrimination and a desire to be "go against the tide" (a tide also created by society) and become proud of oneself results in extreme, exaggerated actions and "loudness".


Well what if someone likes "I Will Survive"? What if someone likes being "fabulous"? What if someone likes to do drag? It doesn't all have to be a statement; it can just be who you are and what you like to do. I really, really dislike these attitudes of homosexual elitism.

(Also, just a note: Drag queens are generally not transgendered, but consider themselves male when not on stage. Drag is a performance art that is intentionally campy and ridiculous.)

In short, it's silly to prejudge someone just because they have a certain set of interests and personality traits. I'm not extremely flamboyant, but I do act fairly feminine at times, and I do like Lady Gaga and musical theatre and RuPaul's Drag Race, and I'll be damned if I'm going to stop liking them or stop acting the way I do because some random dude thinks that it makes me too stereotypical.

(Also, perhaps most importantly, "I Will Survive" is a fucking great song, and there is no shame in knowing it by heart.)
PinkStatic
Profile Joined April 2011
Singapore11 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-21 07:05:58
May 21 2011 06:55 GMT
#1636
On May 21 2011 15:18 matjlav wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2011 13:11 PinkStatic wrote:
On May 21 2011 10:40 appe wrote:
This would have been more relevant 30~ pages back during the "feminime guy" discussion, but yeah. I actually came out to my friends after attending a party where this flamboyant guy kept talking about how slutty he was and how big his boyfriends dick was. After he left and there was only me and a few friends left. I asked them if they thought all gay guys were like that. They said "well yeah.. but no.. isn't that was being gay is?". Then I told them I was gay. Made no sense to them of course with me being a "normal straight acting nerdy gamer who also likes sports", but it was an eye opener for them. They were actually mad at me for not telling them sooner. :D

It's interesting to see the difference in acceptance from various parts of Europe and from America. The passive-aggresive/religious straight Americans coming into this thread trying to make sense of it all cracks me up. We're gay, what the fuck can we do about it? :D. In my semi-smallish town it's actually pretty black and white: either people hate your guts or they do all they can to show you their support. Like I'm some kind of little baby bird with a broken wing who needs all help in the world. I know they mean well of course, so I'm just thankful for it.

Too bad iNcontroL ain't coming to Dreamhack. Getting a big bear hug from him would have made my week!


It makes me disappointed that your gay friend would make such a scene like that, and that your friends would subsequently create that association in their heads. Somehow I feel that many homosexual guys, in their quest for validation and being "out-and-proud", go too far and perpetuate this stereotype. I personally think it's horrible.

In the transgendered world you have something similar in drag queens. They too portray a stereotype by - although not necessarily being the majority, being the loudest. You know, knowing "i will survive" by heart and calling everything "fabulous" and wearing too much make up/ dressing scantily all the time.


It's kind of like America - lot's of nice Americans, but there's a tendency to associate the American with "loud, fat, ignorant, arrogant". And the loudest ones usually are.

It's it's not their fault, society tends to work that way. Sometimes, discrimination and a desire to be "go against the tide" (a tide also created by society) and become proud of oneself results in extreme, exaggerated actions and "loudness".


Well what if someone likes "I Will Survive"? What if someone likes being "fabulous"? What if someone likes to do drag? It doesn't all have to be a statement; it can just be who you are and what you like to do. I really, really dislike these attitudes of homosexual elitism.

(Also, just a note: Drag queens are generally not transgendered, but consider themselves male when not on stage. Drag is a performance art that is intentionally campy and ridiculous.)

In short, it's silly to prejudge someone just because they have a certain set of interests and personality traits. I'm not extremely flamboyant, but I do act fairly feminine at times, and I do like Lady Gaga and musical theatre and RuPaul's Drag Race, and I'll be damned if I'm going to stop liking them or stop acting the way I do because some random dude thinks that it makes me too stereotypical.

(Also, perhaps most importantly, "I Will Survive" is a fucking great song, and there is no shame in knowing it by heart.)


That's not at ALL what i am saying! All these things are fine! I like the song personally, and it's great that people do drag. I'm so sorry if i came off as prejudging - what i meant is that society tends to build stereotypes selectively based on loud behavior, and then people tend to perpetuate these stereotypes unknowingly - and they have every right to do so! Who is at fault here is not the individuals, but the society that tends to create stereotypes by lumping certain selective individuals together and using them as avatars to represent an entire group.

My point was that it was unfortunate /that it happens at all/ - perhaps a point that is silly, whimsical and obvious to some - not "STOP EVERYONE. STOP WHATEVER YOU'RE DOING!", because by all means, in fact /please/, be yourselves!

The same goes for the drag queen example - yes, i understand they are very different from the transgendered community, but then society tends to lump them together unfortunately, and so stereotypes are created, hence the analogy.

I did not mean to offend you and i'm sorry if i did . English is not my first language, and it can be at times difficult to express my ideas appropriately.

Also. I'm not a dude. Please be nice to me. Thank you.
jarrydesque
Profile Joined November 2010
584 Posts
May 21 2011 07:21 GMT
#1637
I missed the music discussion. Sadface.

#1 Kennigit fanboy/stalker
Tipsyer
Profile Joined March 2011
United States43 Posts
May 21 2011 07:23 GMT
#1638
Language barriers put an even larger burden on trying to "hear" tone in text form. I think you were trying to explain it in a supportive manner, PinkStatic, but at first read I did have to take a second a not get a little defensive. Upon re-reading, it wasn't that at all.

She isn't the one with prejudice. She is merely pointing out the "flaws" that society has set for each aspect of a community. While I do agree that transgen and drag queens are two completely separate things, it's only because I know better. Of course most of society would lump the two together. Sex? Boys? Girls? Birls? Goys? WAHHH??!

Don't get me wrong, me and Ru have a long running relationship.. and will for a long time to come. But it's unfortunately true that when most other people read that statement, I will get lumped into some preconceived notion of how someone thought someone who would like Ru Paul would be.

It's an odd cycle.
Tipsyer
Profile Joined March 2011
United States43 Posts
May 21 2011 07:24 GMT
#1639
ps. Florence is wonderful. Thank you, jarry.
Tipsyer
Profile Joined March 2011
United States43 Posts
May 21 2011 07:28 GMT
#1640
On May 21 2011 14:49 startover wrote:
I'm always amazed how hypocritical people can be.on one hand you don't want people to judge you for liking boys on the other you turn around and judge yourself.


Wait, what's this?

Whatchuu talkin' bout, Startover? Who is judging themselves?
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