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Don't post in this thread to say "gay gamers are like everyone else, why do they have a special thread?" It is something that has been posted numerous times, and this isn't the place for that discussion.

For regular posters, don't quote the trolls.
Loukas
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1 Post
May 31 2012 21:45 GMT
#5721
Just found this thread, good to see
neoghaleon55
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7435 Posts
May 31 2012 22:16 GMT
#5722
I actually have a new topic of discussion.
Have any of you guys ever had the fear that your favorite player that you love and worship might turn out to be a homophobic jerk?

As you guys know, I run DRG's fanclub around here.
This is going to sound completely stupid but the reason I haven't posted here often lately is because I was afraid that it might freak DongRaeGu out. I'm out to most everyone in my life, so I don't care who knows. But it would kill me if say, DRG...who's Korean... which correlates to a high chance of being a devout Christian...would be put off or scared of me for who I am...
I'm honestly afraid to know the truth. No heroes are perfect.

What do you guys think?
Am I out of my mind?
moo...for DRG
Barburas
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom247 Posts
May 31 2012 23:08 GMT
#5723
Yes I understand what you mean. It would certainly make it very hard for me to be a fan of a player if they were. That said however, I don't think you should stop liking a player/running his fanclub, etc just on the chance (even if a relatively high one) that he'd be that way. While Korea does seem to be in some ways plenty more homophobic than some countries, I've also seen some of the koreans pros being fine about it. So I don't think the fear is unjustified, but don't let it spoil the player for you until there's actual evidence that's how they think.
RoMGraViTy
Profile Joined February 2011
United States314 Posts
May 31 2012 23:28 GMT
#5724
On June 01 2012 06:45 Loukas wrote:
Just found this thread, good to see


nice, welcome! :D
"Khaldor is a younger version of Goro from Mortal Kombat" - Tasteless
jarrydesque
Profile Joined November 2010
584 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-01 14:23:42
May 31 2012 23:30 GMT
#5725
Exams and Diablo 3 release. Trying to log in has taken up everyone's time.
#1 Kennigit fanboy/stalker
Troxle
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States486 Posts
May 31 2012 23:39 GMT
#5726
On June 01 2012 08:30 jarrydesque wrote:
Exams and Diablo 3 release. Trying to log in has taken up everyone's time.


Error 37
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Ah yes those amazin' messages
If you're homophobic, you're probably ugly, so don't worry about a gay guy coming onto you. - jarrydesque
RaZorwire
Profile Joined April 2012
Sweden718 Posts
May 31 2012 23:53 GMT
#5727
On June 01 2012 07:16 neoghaleon55 wrote:
I actually have a new topic of discussion.
Have any of you guys ever had the fear that your favorite player that you love and worship might turn out to be a homophobic jerk?

As you guys know, I run DRG's fanclub around here.
This is going to sound completely stupid but the reason I haven't posted here often lately is because I was afraid that it might freak DongRaeGu out. I'm out to most everyone in my life, so I don't care who knows. But it would kill me if say, DRG...who's Korean... which correlates to a high chance of being a devout Christian...would be put off or scared of me for who I am...
I'm honestly afraid to know the truth. No heroes are perfect.

What do you guys think?
Am I out of my mind?


I don't think you're out of your mind. I've thought a lot about what you just said lately; not specifically about players you are a fan of knowing you are gay, but about players having opinions and doing things that you might disagree with in general or even make it difficult to actually continue supporting them.

I guess, to some extent, it wouldn't be news to anyone that being a fan isn't quite as simple as just liking someone's playstyle. There's that too, of course, but most of the players with really big fanbases manage to get attention and supports due to their personalities as well. Fans tend to look up - or at least feel some kind of connection to - their players as people, not just as players. You kind of want them to be people you could, hypothetically, hang out with and get along with, not just people you watch play a game. There's sort of a hero worship aspect to it, in a sense, and I don't think there's something wrong with that in itself. It can get problematic, though, if it means that fans defend their player and make excuses for everything he/she does.

I mean, I guess everyone is familiar with the type of fan who will critisize and whine about everything and everyone while making demands about what players and/or other public members of the community has to do, etc. Those people are really annoying. It can, however, sometimes also be annoying with fans who will seemingly crawl beneath the feet of their favourite players, forgiving and excusing everything they do, no matter how stupid. It's essentially the hero worship aspect gone wrong, IMO.

So, to be more specific; I don't think you should try to hide who you are from a player you like, if you think there's a chance they'll find out. DRG seems like a pretty cool guy, he kills MKP and doesn't afraid of anything, and if he really is the cool guy he seems like, he'll probably appreciate that you have managed his fanclub. Even if he does find the whole think being a bit weird, he should at least appreciate your dedication and support, right?

And, as boring and cliché as it is to say this; if he really starts hating someone who has shown so much dedication to him and has helped him gain more fans for being gay, then, well...maybe he doesn't deserve someone managing his fanclub? I mean, if a player turns out to be a homophobic jerk, I'd hope people wouldn't be afraid to call them out on it instead of just making excuses.

Eh, I don't know if any of this made any sense, it's 01:47 in the morning at the time of typing this and I'm just rambling at this point...
Velocirapture
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States983 Posts
June 01 2012 01:01 GMT
#5728
On June 01 2012 07:16 neoghaleon55 wrote:
I actually have a new topic of discussion.
Have any of you guys ever had the fear that your favorite player that you love and worship might turn out to be a homophobic jerk?

As you guys know, I run DRG's fanclub around here.
This is going to sound completely stupid but the reason I haven't posted here often lately is because I was afraid that it might freak DongRaeGu out. I'm out to most everyone in my life, so I don't care who knows. But it would kill me if say, DRG...who's Korean... which correlates to a high chance of being a devout Christian...would be put off or scared of me for who I am...
I'm honestly afraid to know the truth. No heroes are perfect.

What do you guys think?
Am I out of my mind?


I remember I used to watch NuketheStars SC1 videos all the time and then one time he slipped and said something disparaging about gay marriage and I felt a little crushed. I dont know that it should matter or anything but somehow watching/listening to somebody for hours on end does create an emotional bond.
inanotherlifetime
Profile Joined January 2012
Sweden233 Posts
June 01 2012 16:48 GMT
#5729
On June 01 2012 07:16 neoghaleon55 wrote:
I actually have a new topic of discussion.
Have any of you guys ever had the fear that your favorite player that you love and worship might turn out to be a homophobic jerk?

As you guys know, I run DRG's fanclub around here.
This is going to sound completely stupid but the reason I haven't posted here often lately is because I was afraid that it might freak DongRaeGu out. I'm out to most everyone in my life, so I don't care who knows. But it would kill me if say, DRG...who's Korean... which correlates to a high chance of being a devout Christian...would be put off or scared of me for who I am...
I'm honestly afraid to know the truth. No heroes are perfect.

What do you guys think?
Am I out of my mind?


You are not out of your mind at all. I have often thought in the same direction. Even though I still don't label myself as fully gay, I have been posting mostly in this thread and some fanclubs. I think it is pretty safe to say I am a rather hardcore fan of NaNiwa and SaSe and I am terrified they will somehow be offended or find my love for them creepy in any way.

So, even if it is not exactly the same, I at least fully understand where your fear is coming from. I doubt we have real reason to worry too much though, since I am pretty certain our favorite players got a lot worse things coming their way from this pitchfork-loving-community. In addition it seems like most of the Korean progamers is pretty liberal compared to the rest of the Korean population.
Lost & Confused <3 NaNiwa & SaSe
HeavOnEarth
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States7087 Posts
June 02 2012 10:11 GMT
#5730

Boom. you can thank me later for your orgasms.
"come korea next time... FXO house... 10 korean, 10 korean"
Sprouter
Profile Joined December 2009
United States1724 Posts
June 04 2012 03:20 GMT
#5731
[image loading]
neoghaleon55
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7435 Posts
June 04 2012 05:29 GMT
#5732
:O
TLO is kinda hot...
moo...for DRG
jarrydesque
Profile Joined November 2010
584 Posts
June 05 2012 21:21 GMT
#5733
On June 04 2012 14:29 neoghaleon55 wrote:
:O
TLO is kinda hot...


Kinda hot, but only sans beard. That thing is NASTY!
#1 Kennigit fanboy/stalker
Troxle
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States486 Posts
June 06 2012 00:37 GMT
#5734
TLO looks a lot better with a shorter beard. He's a super nice guy though. Can't wait til this comes out though! :O
If you're homophobic, you're probably ugly, so don't worry about a gay guy coming onto you. - jarrydesque
Tomtaietot
Profile Joined July 2010
Romania57 Posts
June 06 2012 01:39 GMT
#5735
Heya, all cocksuckers around here !

User was banned for this post.
http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/323212/1/Tom/
lessQQmorePEWPEW
Profile Joined November 2011
Jamaica921 Posts
June 06 2012 02:20 GMT
#5736
First time reading into this thread. I have to say I expected it to be a bit more straight-friendly. For the most part its good to hear from the gay community but some members are getting a lil too explicit.
Why drink and drive when you can smoke and fly - Bob Marley
Zer atai
Profile Joined September 2011
United States691 Posts
June 06 2012 02:26 GMT
#5737
On June 01 2012 07:16 neoghaleon55 wrote:
I actually have a new topic of discussion.
Have any of you guys ever had the fear that your favorite player that you love and worship might turn out to be a homophobic jerk?

As you guys know, I run DRG's fanclub around here.
This is going to sound completely stupid but the reason I haven't posted here often lately is because I was afraid that it might freak DongRaeGu out. I'm out to most everyone in my life, so I don't care who knows. But it would kill me if say, DRG...who's Korean... which correlates to a high chance of being a devout Christian...would be put off or scared of me for who I am...
I'm honestly afraid to know the truth. No heroes are perfect.

What do you guys think?
Am I out of my mind?


In terms of religion, I think you're confusing South Koreans, and Korean Americans. Yes, Korean Americans are very devout. Link here to see stats: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean_Americans#Religion

Also, side bar, the largest church I have ever seen in person was a Korean Church.

However, Koreans, born and raised in Korea, are most likely non-religious (over 46%). Link here to see the stats. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_korea#Religion

Yes, there are Koreans, born and raised in Korea, that are homophobic, as evident by the fact that you cannot be gay and serve in the military.

However, the younger generation is more tolerant to homosexuality, and some even support it. I was watching Liquid Hero's stream and he played Lily Allen's "Fuck You." If you haven't heard that song, it's almost as pro-gay as Lady Gaga's "Born This Way."

That being said, I know it will be heartbreaking if you watch DRG's stream and see him waving a big cross in the camera and repeating that bible passage from Leviticus that every homosexual has heard.

You may choose to continue to support him, or reject him. Closing the DRG fan page wouldn't seem like such a good idea though. Even if DRG is blattenly homophobic, you can learn to deal with it.

Another side bar: My first crush was my childhood best friend that I spent most of my time with. He called me "faggot" almost every day even after I came out to him. I still, somehow, fell madly in love with him. To this day, I don't know why I loved him so much after the stuff he said, but I just did.

Back on track. The chances that DRG will outwardly show hostility toward a group of people is very low. Part of his, and other gamers' desposable income comes from streaming, and he wouldn't want to alienate his fans, even if he's swimming in SC2 winnings.

Hope everything works out
Want to sport eSports? Disable adblock. P.S. En Taro Adun!!
Josketh
Profile Joined October 2011
United States155 Posts
June 06 2012 02:44 GMT
#5738
On June 06 2012 11:20 lessQQmorePEWPEW wrote:
First time reading into this thread. I have to say I expected it to be a bit more straight-friendly. For the most part its good to hear from the gay community but some members are getting a lil too explicit.


I don't know that it is any more explicit than the stuff I'd hear about hot female actresses/female singers from the hetero-folk.

But I'm not sure what you meant by straight friendly...All are welcome in this thread as far as I am concerned. I got no hate for the straight. :D
Craft naked.
neoghaleon55
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7435 Posts
June 06 2012 05:31 GMT
#5739
Thanks everyone for your wonderful replies.
I'm meeting DRG this weekend, wish me luck.
moo...for DRG
Josketh
Profile Joined October 2011
United States155 Posts
June 06 2012 06:09 GMT
#5740
On June 06 2012 14:31 neoghaleon55 wrote:
Thanks everyone for your wonderful replies.
I'm meeting DRG this weekend, wish me luck.


It should be fine, mate! Even if he has a problem with gays, show him that he doesn't need to have a problem with gays...because you are awesome! :D
Craft naked.
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