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Please remember that while this thread is for QQ and venting about the game, racism is not tolerated here on LD.
FuzzyJAM
Profile Joined July 2010
Scotland9300 Posts
March 16 2014 22:30 GMT
#19661
Nothing like people whining about one (arguable) misplay you make in a whole 45 minute match and acting as though a loss is your fault when the rest of your team is all negative and has done nothing all game but fail.
Did you ever say Yes to a single joy?
xAdra
Profile Joined July 2012
Singapore1858 Posts
March 16 2014 23:02 GMT
#19662
Say two people are of equal skill, theoretically. One is a support player and one a mid player. Is it likely that (given both solo queue) the support player naturally has a lower mmr?

I have this ultra immature friend who is far weaker in terms of everything in dota except going mid, and it shows. In nearly every single game, he loses mid, or goes 0-7 with a carry, but manages to comeback thanks to support players. In the end, he got into an mmr bracket 600 points ahead of me. One of my pet peeves however, is when he suddenly feels that mmr means everything, and he has much higher 'priority' in any dota discussion because of his mmr.

Personally I wish there was no ranked mm at all. Does nothing except make immature idiots have a source to compare E-peens.
govie
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
9334 Posts
March 16 2014 23:20 GMT
#19663
Comparing E-peens is the consequence of having mmr shown and communication from valve about mmr but not mmr itself. I think its fine that mmr gives me better games (apparantly...).

Initial question : I dont know for sure, but the xp+gold difference would suggest being mid gives you a chance of more game impact (negative or positive). Seeing all the trolls, feeders etcetc in mediocre mmr ranges, it could suggest that claiming mid as a serious and experienced player, seems the better option to me because you deny a possible worse player (feeder etc) to not fuck up the best gold+xp spot during the laningstage. So, yes i think your right, but the higher the mmr range the less this should be the case.
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beesinyoface
Profile Joined May 2012
2450 Posts
March 17 2014 00:01 GMT
#19664
how come they fucking removed solo queuing without people in parties?

now you got shit where no matter what you do you're in the wrong because 2 people are grouped up and their opinions matters more evidently.
aaaaa
Jerubaal
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States7684 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-17 00:38:47
March 17 2014 00:28 GMT
#19665
I think I'm just going to uninstall. I'm not thinking about how to get better; I'm thinking about how to carry my dumbass team regardless of how bad they are. It's not fun playing a game that's depending on who you get matched with, not your own skill.

They also should tell you who is in the same party so you can call people out on their bullshit.
I'm not stupid, a marauder just shot my brain.
Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8263 Posts
March 17 2014 00:50 GMT
#19666
On March 17 2014 09:28 Jerubaal wrote:
I think I'm just going to uninstall. I'm not thinking about how to get better; I'm thinking about how to carry my dumbass team regardless of how bad they are. It's not fun playing a game that's depending on who you get matched with, not your own skill.

They also should tell you who is in the same party so you can call people out on their bullshit.


80% of the time you can open their steam profile and check their friendslist. Some of the time you also get to see where they are from to let you know which approach to take..no, thats not racism, thats experience and probability. I wouldn't try to cuddle a tiger if it kept biting me.
synapse
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
China13814 Posts
March 17 2014 01:01 GMT
#19667
ugh... just on a terrible losing streak
some games i feed
some games i do well but team feeds
:)
Xxazn4lyfe51xX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States976 Posts
March 17 2014 02:32 GMT
#19668
On March 17 2014 10:01 synapse wrote:
ugh... just on a terrible losing streak
some games i feed
some games i do well but team feeds


No worries =p It happens. Me too. I think I'm 3-15 at the moment. Even when things look good they go bad.

Oh my god their LD dc'd! We get a free win! Quick team! Force as many 5v4's on them as possible and just end the game as fast as possible! Except you know... Their 4 is QoP, Gyro, Enigma Sand King. And we have a spirit breaker and a drow. If drow had just gone a split push build, we probably could have won it.
Thienan567
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States670 Posts
March 17 2014 02:41 GMT
#19669
tell me how this laning works (radiant):
dusa mid
voker/omni bottom
lion/pl top

I'll give you a hint: + Show Spoiler +
It doesn't


I was already skeptical when I saw voker bottom, but when I saw dusa go mid I just gave up.

Predictably, they feed and we lose.
Exoteric
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia2330 Posts
March 17 2014 03:09 GMT
#19670
honestly i feel like the only thing that pisses me off now is when my team has a huge lead and throws it away from continuous mistakes. i just accept the losses that come as a result of poor picks/laning immediately and every once in a while i'm pleasantly surprised when we end up winning, probably because the other team has people doing even worse
hell is other people
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
March 17 2014 03:24 GMT
#19671
Omg why is terror blade this mystery that pubs cannot understand? Don't chase him when he has low health. Its not hard. Just let him go or nuke him down. Why does every Kunka I play with try to solo him by running him down with phase boots and leaving every support behind? Then Kunka gets sundered and "Bang", kill for the Terror Blade.

Every time. Just learn that you can't chase him.
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Jerubaal
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States7684 Posts
March 17 2014 03:57 GMT
#19672
On March 17 2014 12:09 Exoteric wrote:
honestly i feel like the only thing that pisses me off now is when my team has a huge lead and throws it away from continuous mistakes. i just accept the losses that come as a result of poor picks/laning immediately and every once in a while i'm pleasantly surprised when we end up winning, probably because the other team has people doing even worse


I've had 2 games in the last week where I won when my team was at a big disadvantage, but, instead of pushing as 5 down mid, they let us farm and get pickoffs on our side of the map for 15 minutes.
I'm not stupid, a marauder just shot my brain.
fuzzy_panda
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
New Zealand1681 Posts
March 17 2014 10:23 GMT
#19673
There needs to be a fucking re-evaluation to this Low Priority bullshit. Yesterday I played a game in ranked. Halfway through we were getting stomped 18-4. I suddenly had a guest arrive at my house that I wasn't expecting for another hour. So i apologized in-game and said I had no choice but to quit. Today I come back and I have to play 3, THREE LP games before I can be back in normal pool. The last time I abandoned a game was probably more than a month ago. WTF man...then I'm in Low Prioirty and people keep ragequitting coz they lost mid, so it doesn't even count for a LP game....fuck this shit.
-Celestial-
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom3867 Posts
March 17 2014 10:31 GMT
#19674
On March 17 2014 19:23 fuzzy_panda wrote:
There needs to be a fucking re-evaluation to this Low Priority bullshit. Yesterday I played a game in ranked. Halfway through we were getting stomped 18-4. I suddenly had a guest arrive at my house that I wasn't expecting for another hour. So i apologized in-game and said I had no choice but to quit. Today I come back and I have to play 3, THREE LP games before I can be back in normal pool. The last time I abandoned a game was probably more than a month ago. WTF man...then I'm in Low Prioirty and people keep ragequitting coz they lost mid, so it doesn't even count for a LP game....fuck this shit.


IIRC it counts as long as YOU stay into the end. Your team doesn't have to stay as a whole.

And think yourself lucky. I hadn't abandoned for two and a half weeks, then I quit one game and got five LP games. They seem to have made the abandoning criteria more strict. >_>
"Protoss simultaneously feels unbeatably strong and unwinnably weak." - kcdc
fuzzy_panda
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
New Zealand1681 Posts
March 17 2014 11:09 GMT
#19675
Yeah they seem to be punishing really hard the normal players that had to abandon for a legit reason. I almost never flame my teams in pubs, try my best to cooperate etc, and one abandon BOOM "FUCK YOU YOU DESERVE TO ROT IN LP". Thanks volvo
msl
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany477 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-17 11:14:16
March 17 2014 11:11 GMT
#19676
Whats up with people just refusing to trilane because "Trilanes are shit"?
Yesterday we played as a 4-stack and every time we asked the 5th guy to participate in a trilane he refused (mostly after picking a support) because apparently the wisdom of the pubs says that "trilanes are shit".

Also: Playing OD feels a lot like cheating. How is this hero balanced?

On March 17 2014 20:09 fuzzy_panda wrote:
Yeah they seem to be punishing really hard the normal players that had to abandon for a legit reason. I almost never flame my teams in pubs, try my best to cooperate etc, and one abandon BOOM "FUCK YOU YOU DESERVE TO ROT IN LP". Thanks volvo


I had to abonden every now and then (like 10 games out of around 1000 played) and never went to LP. Maybe reports or some such are a factor?
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beef42
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Denmark1037 Posts
March 17 2014 11:18 GMT
#19677
guys, please. it does indeed only take one ranked abandon for you to go to LP. what the fuck did you expect? it even says so at game start. you're fucking over your team's precious MMR. Them points man.
-Celestial-
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom3867 Posts
March 17 2014 11:54 GMT
#19678
On March 17 2014 20:18 beef42 wrote:
guys, please. it does indeed only take one ranked abandon for you to go to LP. what the fuck did you expect? it even says so at game start. you're fucking over your team's precious MMR. Them points man.


This is irrelevant, I play unranked. They've tightened up the whole system it seems.
"Protoss simultaneously feels unbeatably strong and unwinnably weak." - kcdc
Belisarius
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia6233 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-17 12:18:00
March 17 2014 12:17 GMT
#19679
I think LPQ has gone way overboard. There are legitimate reasons to leave games, even in ranked. There is no way that one abandon a month deserves LPQ.


On March 17 2014 20:11 msl wrote:
Whats up with people just refusing to trilane because "Trilanes are shit"?
Yesterday we played as a 4-stack and every time we asked the 5th guy to participate in a trilane he refused (mostly after picking a support) because apparently the wisdom of the pubs says that "trilanes are shit".

Also: Playing OD feels a lot like cheating. How is this hero balanced?

If you're a 4-stack, why in the world are you asking the random 5th to be part of the most communication-intensive piece of your execution?
msl
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany477 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-17 12:30:33
March 17 2014 12:30 GMT
#19680
On March 17 2014 21:17 Belisarius wrote:
I think LPQ has gone way overboard. There are legitimate reasons to leave games, even in ranked. There is no way that one abandon a month deserves LPQ.


Show nested quote +
On March 17 2014 20:11 msl wrote:
Whats up with people just refusing to trilane because "Trilanes are shit"?
Yesterday we played as a 4-stack and every time we asked the 5th guy to participate in a trilane he refused (mostly after picking a support) because apparently the wisdom of the pubs says that "trilanes are shit".

Also: Playing OD feels a lot like cheating. How is this hero balanced?

If you're a 4-stack, why in the world are you asking the random 5th to be part of the most communication-intensive piece of your execution?


Because they picked supports qq. Obviously it would be preferable if the lone fith would just mid/offlane and not suck.
Point was though, since when is "trilanes suck" accepted wisdom?
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