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On February 17 2014 03:05 Obelisco wrote:Show nested quote +On February 17 2014 02:42 Enzymatic wrote:On February 17 2014 02:18 Obelisco wrote:I thought not having solo queue was fine, until i got this game... Ofc pink instant locks captain and picks the worst line up possible. Cant believe this happens. Spoiler: big img. please tell me how to resize, ill just place the link + Show Spoiler +http://i.imgur.com/i5w3Ht4.jpg If you aren't at really high mmr (like the point where you know everyone is good and has a solid understanding of good picks and can play a variety of roles), then solo-queuing CM is a 100% waste of time. Another big problem with CM games is even if you have a good team setup picked, usually 80% of the time the people on your team can't play their roles properly.. For example someone who has no idea how to offlane properly, or supports that can't trilane properly, etc. well i tried queuing AP at the start and was horrible. My CM/CD actually have been really fun, except this one. What raiting cm is acceptable for you? The thing is that this game, it wasnt understanding of picks.. It was straight feeding, they didnt want to win, it wasnt a skill issue more like an attitude one. They started blaming lycan and picked a line up that would lose against any decent players, they didnt want to win, but rather ruin the game for other players
Right now I'm 3.5k and its hit or miss. Sometimes I get captains who really know what they're doing, sometimes I get captains that kind of just dick around and fuck everyone over. I got a captain who banned out AA first round for a mega push strat with chen, dp, and jugg, and I also got a capt who thought dusa ancient stacking could actually work. Maybe if the other team was retarded, yeah.
So what I'm trying to do is go mid every game with ganker heroes like qop puck or storm. I'm not crushing but I'm not losing either. I guess I'm exactly where I am supposed to be lol
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Random draft with 2 friends and 2 braindead fucksticks. Got a team of Pugna-Pudge-DP-Veno-Leshrac against 4 melee carries and an AA. Should be a cakewalk right? Well, not if Veno and Pudge never want to push with us and prefer wandering around the enemy side of the map with no vision and feeding. We had 5 1/2 rax down around 35 minutes but their team got so much money from feeding Pudge that they were actually fighting our creeps off. Every time we took a fight the Pudge fucks us too. A straight up 5v5 where they're being kited in DP ulti? Hooks superfed TA behind us and away from the ulti so she can instagib him and backstab our whole team.
They were able to end when Pudge built BoT, TP'ed to bottom lane near their last standing rax to kill AA, misses his hook while standing in cold feet, and then TA runs up and oneshots him.
I've never seen any one player throw a game so hard in my entire life. Possibly the worst game of Dota I've ever played, at least in the top 3. So fucking pissed. There needs to be an option to make it so you can select to never be on the same team as a player like that again. Like a report that actually accomplishes something.
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On February 17 2014 02:42 Enzymatic wrote:Show nested quote +On February 17 2014 02:18 Obelisco wrote:I thought not having solo queue was fine, until i got this game... Ofc pink instant locks captain and picks the worst line up possible. Cant believe this happens. Spoiler: big img. please tell me how to resize, ill just place the link + Show Spoiler +http://i.imgur.com/i5w3Ht4.jpg If you aren't at really high mmr (like the point where you know everyone is good and has a solid understanding of good picks and can play a variety of roles), then solo-queuing CM is a 100% waste of time. Another big problem with CM games is even if you have a good team setup picked, usually 80% of the time the people on your team can't play their roles properly.. For example someone who has no idea how to offlane properly, or supports that can't trilane properly, etc.
I'm at 3k MMR and I have drafting skills as well as good game vision.
This is enough to play and lead a solo ranked CM. I have something like a 75% WR when solo ranking CM.
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I think Valve forgot that I was -6 before giving me 2 straight losses.
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Just delete nature's prophet please. This hero has one of the most severe cases of "godly on enemy team, shit on my team" syndrome, probably on par with pudge. I'm really sick of getting mountain prophets on my team while enemies get solo offlane prophets that micro their treants to block our pull camps.
What kind of sense does it make to people? Oh, I'm going to pick a hero that literally does nothing until I have items, buy an item (midas) that does nothing for the entirety of early game, and do nothing with the hero except afk farm from the cliffs. My allies will lose all the lanes, but meh, who cares, I enjoy doing nothing. Is it fun to play a game when you dont have to do anything?
Also, WHY THE FUCK would anyone pick zeus as a sidelane support? Especially when the team already has no lockdown? And the enemy team is filled with gankers? The lack of logic among some people is just outstanding
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On February 17 2014 09:18 HammerKick wrote:Show nested quote +On February 17 2014 02:42 Enzymatic wrote:On February 17 2014 02:18 Obelisco wrote:I thought not having solo queue was fine, until i got this game... Ofc pink instant locks captain and picks the worst line up possible. Cant believe this happens. Spoiler: big img. please tell me how to resize, ill just place the link + Show Spoiler +http://i.imgur.com/i5w3Ht4.jpg If you aren't at really high mmr (like the point where you know everyone is good and has a solid understanding of good picks and can play a variety of roles), then solo-queuing CM is a 100% waste of time. Another big problem with CM games is even if you have a good team setup picked, usually 80% of the time the people on your team can't play their roles properly.. For example someone who has no idea how to offlane properly, or supports that can't trilane properly, etc. I'm at 3k MMR and I have drafting skills as well as good game vision. This is enough to play and lead a solo ranked CM. I have something like a 75% WR when solo ranking CM.
Then your mmr is wrong and should rise so rapidly that you will be 4k soon. Your experiences dont seem a good measuringstick, you are to good to be 3k.
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I don't understand why 4 stacks get so mad.
like we've mega creeped them, our support has bought a rapier and everyone's basically dicking around, and then i comment on how it was a good game the entire team starts fucking yelling and screaming about how noob i am and how i lost mid so hard (because i only had 3 solo kills on him in lane)
Like objectively I've been involved in the most kills and have the second most personal kills behind the carry and have died the least and have the highest gpm how does this even work?
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My QQ: I quit dota couple of years ago and went to LoL, however, Dota QQ thread is so much bigger, more sorrow, more passion, more attention to the detail, more rage and overall on bigger proportions xD So funny to read, nevertheless, I cannot understand everything since I am not on par with the game anymore :-))))))
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"guys maybe you shouldn't all stand bunched up with all of the creeps&terror blade illusions, their Earthshaker has Blink+Aghs"
team ignored me, 10 seconds later a nuke fell down on my team, instantly wiped out, we lost the game.
gg retards.
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Had a game the other day where a guy on my team starts asking everyone "what's your MMR?", then one of the guys on our team goes "what's MMR?" I explain its the score you get from playing ranked. "What's ranked?"
I checked his profile. About 60 wins; so around 120 games or so. I have a thousand games. What the hell Volvo?
(Happily the other team was AWFUL.)
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On February 17 2014 22:41 -Celestial- wrote:
Had a game the other day where a guy on my team starts asking everyone "what's your MMR?", then one of the guys on our team goes "what's MMR?" I explain its the score you get from playing ranked. "What's ranked?"
I checked his profile. About 60 wins; so around 120 games or so. I have a thousand games. What the hell Volvo?
(Happily the other team was AWFUL.)
Believe it or not, MMR and match making does not take amount of games into account 
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Friends raging too much lately, always complaining that ennemy team picks pubstom heroes, yet they refuse to play anything else than AP because "SD/RD sucks and we're not good enough for CM", plus being general assholes to the other team even when winning. I'm to the point where I only keep playing with them cause I hate solo queue even more :/
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On February 17 2014 22:47 Tobberoth wrote:Show nested quote +On February 17 2014 22:41 -Celestial- wrote:
Had a game the other day where a guy on my team starts asking everyone "what's your MMR?", then one of the guys on our team goes "what's MMR?" I explain its the score you get from playing ranked. "What's ranked?"
I checked his profile. About 60 wins; so around 120 games or so. I have a thousand games. What the hell Volvo?
(Happily the other team was AWFUL.) Believe it or not, MMR and match making does not take amount of games into account
This is a guy who had to ask "is trilaning even viable?"
He should absolutely not be in games with players trying to run trilane roaming supports with smoke.
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On February 17 2014 20:57 govie wrote:Show nested quote +On February 17 2014 09:18 HammerKick wrote:On February 17 2014 02:42 Enzymatic wrote:On February 17 2014 02:18 Obelisco wrote:I thought not having solo queue was fine, until i got this game... Ofc pink instant locks captain and picks the worst line up possible. Cant believe this happens. Spoiler: big img. please tell me how to resize, ill just place the link + Show Spoiler +http://i.imgur.com/i5w3Ht4.jpg If you aren't at really high mmr (like the point where you know everyone is good and has a solid understanding of good picks and can play a variety of roles), then solo-queuing CM is a 100% waste of time. Another big problem with CM games is even if you have a good team setup picked, usually 80% of the time the people on your team can't play their roles properly.. For example someone who has no idea how to offlane properly, or supports that can't trilane properly, etc. I'm at 3k MMR and I have drafting skills as well as good game vision. This is enough to play and lead a solo ranked CM. I have something like a 75% WR when solo ranking CM. Then your mmr is wrong and should rise so rapidly that you will be 4k soon. Your experiences dont seem a good measuringstick, you are to good to be 3k.
I'm one of them, like the guy above.
I only play CM/CD In Pubs, But i usually dont draft (basically because i need those 5-10 mins to do stuff, etc) And even with shittier captains I had better games than AP.
Somehow after a 1-9 calibration (yes, as awful as you could imagine) i got 3.7k which i new was really low from what i should have. So after 50 or so games im 4.2k, and i know i can climb to 4.5k at least.
The good thing about queuing CM is that people want to play with roles, better heroes and try to "emulate" pros. The bad thing is that the captain seat is a russian roulette unless you instapickit.
QQ: I'm playin with a RL friend who is 3.2k and when he invites me for his stack i can only play Mid or lose the game, I want to have fun, play some supports and relax, but i cant because between me being bad the weird MMR i keep LOSING!!
VOLVOOOOOOOOOO
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On February 17 2014 22:49 -Celestial- wrote:Show nested quote +On February 17 2014 22:47 Tobberoth wrote:On February 17 2014 22:41 -Celestial- wrote:
Had a game the other day where a guy on my team starts asking everyone "what's your MMR?", then one of the guys on our team goes "what's MMR?" I explain its the score you get from playing ranked. "What's ranked?"
I checked his profile. About 60 wins; so around 120 games or so. I have a thousand games. What the hell Volvo?
(Happily the other team was AWFUL.) Believe it or not, MMR and match making does not take amount of games into account This is a guy who had to ask "is trilaning even viable?" He should absolutely not be in games with players trying to run trilane roaming supports with smoke.
to be fair most pub players don't know how to trilane
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On February 17 2014 23:21 hooahah wrote:Show nested quote +On February 17 2014 22:49 -Celestial- wrote:On February 17 2014 22:47 Tobberoth wrote:On February 17 2014 22:41 -Celestial- wrote:
Had a game the other day where a guy on my team starts asking everyone "what's your MMR?", then one of the guys on our team goes "what's MMR?" I explain its the score you get from playing ranked. "What's ranked?"
I checked his profile. About 60 wins; so around 120 games or so. I have a thousand games. What the hell Volvo?
(Happily the other team was AWFUL.) Believe it or not, MMR and match making does not take amount of games into account This is a guy who had to ask "is trilaning even viable?" He should absolutely not be in games with players trying to run trilane roaming supports with smoke. to be fair most pub players don't know how to trilane
Dunno, most people at the level I'm at seem to do alright with it. Though you get the odd random like that.
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So I just experienced probably the worst Dota game in recent memory. It started with a guy saying "lina carry" "mid" and picking lina. I already started getting a little worried there. Then I picked AM, my friend I stacked with picked Treant. next guy takes sniper and wants mid. Lina starts with with the usual "mid or feed". Even walks up to the enemy highground mid after SNiper doesn't want to let him. Then sniper goes offlane with Slark (which was the last pick). The lanes are:
Pudge vs Lina mid
Timber offlane vs AM, Treant safelane
Bounty Hunter, Abbadon safe vs Sniper, Slark off
Enigma jungle.
Our lane is going pretty much as perfect as it can, we got a kill on the timber after he timber chained to harass. I had a 13 minute battlefury, treads, qb. Beautiful. However, Lina managed to feed pudge a solo killing spree at 10 minutes, and the offlane also died a bunch to enigma and pudge ganks. That's all fine tho, people can have bad days, etc. But after that Lina started raging so hard it was unbelievable. Calling everyone on his team noobs and retards, called me a "am picker" and that the hero is super easy and that I'm noob. Then he said the matchup is unwinnable for him, despite insisting on going mid instead of the sniper. The he tells me "go 1v1 me pudge, you lina". So I added him and this was his response: + Show Spoiler +. :D I actually find it adorable, that poor little guy.
Match: http://dotabuff.com/matches/526566174
rant over.
e: Also, building phaseboots, desolator is obviously the perfect choice on a Lina in that situation. There's not like there's a blink Pudge, blink Enigma, Timbersaw and Bounty Hunter. 800 hp is totally enough for the Lina to survive. Fuck that guy.
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So tired of being abused by stacks who cant accept their own terrible play
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