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On December 27 2013 06:13 1nobody wrote: Holy shit, solo CM is so much worse than fucking AP. Get a three stack in team, on snaps captain and then bans SS with Gyro and picks viper and Kunkka in first two ban adn two pick.... WTH?
THIS, seriously i wanted to do a genocide ... 3 stack@ lolweknoweverythingstfu pick their hero without trying to counter pick just a bit
i lost every CM games i made (+ the dude who pick captain, do not ask his mates and pick the worst line up you can have), and then i went to AP and i won everything .. total non sense
they should really do a mix between all pick and random draft, it would be the best for the ranked game (random draft picking system + every hero available)
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On December 27 2013 22:10 Makro wrote:Show nested quote +On December 27 2013 06:13 1nobody wrote: Holy shit, solo CM is so much worse than fucking AP. Get a three stack in team, on snaps captain and then bans SS with Gyro and picks viper and Kunkka in first two ban adn two pick.... WTH? THIS, seriously i wanted to do a genocide ... 3 stack@ lolweknoweverythingstfu pick their hero without trying to counter pick just a bit i lost every CM games i made (+ the dude who pick captain, do not ask his mates and pick the worst line up you can have), and then i went to AP and i won everything .. total non sense they should really do a mix between all pick and random draft, it would be the best for the ranked game (random draft picking system + every hero available)
this, you pick and ban a hero and take turn like random draft. i fucking hate all pick and solo cm in ranked is out of the question.
my own qq: last 2 games played, both slark, first game 31-8-21: lost. next game 7-1-4: lost. its been like this for the majority of my games after ranked mm patch. i destroy my lane, other 2 lanes tries to balance the game by feeding the other team even harder.
I have a theory that because ranked mm split the player base into 2, the chance of noobs being on my team have increased dramatically because of it.
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shame on you for picking slark
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People who last pick two hard melee carries in random draft when we already have 3 melee's and carries
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They made it so you can't skip the fucking head with a valve in it by pressing esc when you start up Dota anymore.......
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On December 28 2013 00:19 Chewbacca. wrote: They made it so you can't skip the fucking head with a valve in it by pressing esc when you start up Dota anymore....... You can still remove it completelly as far as I know, adding -novid to the command line.
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On December 27 2013 23:22 DavoS wrote: People who last pick two hard melee carries in random draft when we already have 3 melee's and carries
I swear people have to be doing that kind of shit on purpose sometimes.
Yesterday I waited until 10 seconds before start to pick a hero around what my teammates pick. Even the opposing team picked all their heroes (surprisingly) a long time before the game start.
So I just take a crap shoot and pick Enchantress. They proceed to pick a (jungling) Bloodseeker and Riki.
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On December 28 2013 00:21 SKC wrote:Show nested quote +On December 28 2013 00:19 Chewbacca. wrote: They made it so you can't skip the fucking head with a valve in it by pressing esc when you start up Dota anymore....... You can still remove it completelly as far as I know, adding -novid to the command line.
Not sure if I'm authorized to hand these out, but take 10 internet points.
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holy shit ranked ap match , we get no supports and kaolin feeder last pick that was possibly the worst player and no courier untill 5min .... valve you are really forcing me to quit dota i guess.
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Fuck im getting such retarded fucking teams in ranked. Last game someone dced on the other team, and while we were winning my whole team decided to leave because "no stats idiots". That's the 25 points from the previous 50 min hard fought victory gone. lmao.
And another one. It's just completely fucking unwinnable holy shit.
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19-2 OD. Lose game because Skywrath is 2-22
21-4 Viper. Lose game because Rubick is 1-11 and Witch Doctor is 2-12.
Fucking ranked games man.
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Played as jungle lycan, used the easy camp because jungle lycan always uses the easy camp because that's how he has to open because that's how it is played. Safelane support bane says nothing for 5 mins then goes "wtf lycan stop using pull camp" and right click follows me for the next 10 minutes until someone else thinks fuck this shit and abandons. While following me all he does is call me bad, never hits anything or uses skills or buys items. Who does that? I mean seriously, this was at 4600 MMR.
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i sometimes don't understand this game, first pick me is a slardar they expect you to get a million lasthits, yet they pick 3 other melees after me we have literally no support the casual no courier into no wards into no dust despite them having 2 shadowblades + invoker at 3700 mmr The game was over before it started, but they still flame for not getting lasthits in a solo lane vs double ranged lane with 2x stuns.
I'm not even mad, i just wonder if they really don't realize that they have picked shit and the game was lost before it even started. Why would they start to flame for no reason? oh look at slardar, his stats are 2-7-10, better report him because that is why we lost of course.
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On December 28 2013 05:09 KwarK wrote: Played as jungle lycan, used the easy camp because jungle lycan always uses the easy camp because that's how he has to open because that's how it is played. Safelane support bane says nothing for 5 mins then goes "wtf lycan stop using pull camp" and right click follows me for the next 10 minutes until someone else thinks fuck this shit and abandons. While following me all he does is call me bad, never hits anything or uses skills or buys items. Who does that? I mean seriously, this was at 4600 MMR. just played -cd and our captain drafted an aggressive trilane with morph. we spot their solo support and we get him down to 50hp twice! what was morph doing this whole time? he skilled morph at lvl 1 and was chilling at our t1 tower. after that he suicided and flamed his supports for losing the lane. this guy had around 2700 wins and mmr was about 5k..........
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Jungle lycan doesn't actually need to use the easy camp unless both mediums spawn as centaurs, btw.
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United States44201 Posts
On December 28 2013 05:53 Belisarius wrote: Jungle lycan doesn't actually need to use the easy camp unless both mediums spawn as centaurs, btw. No, obviously you can play without easy if you have to in cases such as when they ward it and your support won't deward but it is extremely optimal to use it. That's like saying "lycan doesn't need items". Strictly true but not usefully true.
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Honestly, I disagree that it's optimal.
You can get a 7-7:30 Vlads easily without ever touching the small camp, and the benefit to your safelane from allowing them to pull is enormous. It's nothing like saying Lycan doesn't need items.
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United States44201 Posts
Depends entirely on other camp spawns. Satyrs, sure. Centaurs and bears, no way. And a 7-7:30 without being harassed is presumably with no boots and no parts of the medallion?
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It depends on if you're Radiant or Dire.
If you're Dire, rotating double Medium camps is easy because of how close they are to each other and running to the easy camp is out of your way anyway. If you're Radiant, running between both Medium camps is an enormous waste of time, and it's a more efficient use of time to be able to cycle the 3 camps that are close to each other. Though in that case, the best play is probably to split triple pulls with the safe lane support (since with the two of you, you can actually finish the 3rd camp instead of just having the creeps die to it), and then do the medium camp while the pull camps respawn. It's a net gain for both of you because you don't have to run across half the jungle between camps, and they wouldn't be able to control a triple pull 1v1 against the enemy off-laner anyway.
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That's certainly true, but even if I'm radiant I'll tend to ask the support before taking the pull.
If we're seriously able to discuss small optimisations - to the point where yango has actually been summoned to the QQ thread - I think it's pretty clear that if the supports want a Lycan to gtfo the pull, he can do so without terrible repercussions.
Provided the supports don't then follow him around stealing lasthits, anyway.
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