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peidongyang
Profile Joined January 2009
Canada2084 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-05 04:03:46
December 05 2013 04:01 GMT
#17001
On December 05 2013 02:10 Ryrmidon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 04 2013 17:58 peidongyang wrote:
On December 04 2013 10:22 Ryrmidon wrote:
On December 04 2013 10:06 peidongyang wrote:
On December 04 2013 09:54 Ryrmidon wrote:
On December 04 2013 05:05 BigO wrote:
I've always been curious why those that die the most/plays the worst always go something like "my team sucks, can't play with these morons" etc in the end of a lost game. Are people really that delusional? Had a game earlier today where a huskar on our team complained alot about 2 other guys (they didn't play great, but nothing all that bad), meanwhile he had the most deaths on our team and his first item was... Hood of Defiance. People like that annoys me, alot.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning–Kruger_effect


Actually like 70% of the posts here can be explained by this


not really...

like one time I had np pre-picked, and some guy on our team took it

then he proceeded to not send trees to runes/enemy jungle, buy the wrong items for jungle, arrived 20 seconds late to jungle, and when he left base he fucking accidentally summoned one treant

not to mention this kid left the jungle once i think during the first 10 minutes and even by he was only level 6

and no, his jungle was not warded, never got ganked, and we still won the game based on the sheer stupidity of our opponents

And this disproves it how...?


theres actually geniunely retarded people that sneak into high level games. its not just people rambling on about their teammates while being a complete fucktard

i mean ffs i know that dsr doesnt mean shit but im 1700.. how the fuck do i get people like that in my games...

and how do i get equally retarded opponents.. im not even stacking

dota has so many players can they really not match you with players with similar skill?

i mean my last match i got this fucking storm who literally took aegis, flew into 5 people, tried to fight without turning on bkb despite having plenty of time to, we fucking lose the fight cuz hes in the enemy base, he dies again with aegis, were all fucking dead, he fucking bots in and dies again

like

how

are

people

this

fucking

stupid

then I check his inventory as hes dying and his orchids and bkb are still off cooldown..

fuck

my

life

Yes because exceptions disprove general trends.

Out of curiosity do you have the match ID to the game ur talking about.

As for the "how do I get matched with bad players" thing...
- Friends of different skill levels queue together, resulting in some people getting matched in games beyond their skill level
- 104 heroes. People play different heroes to varying degrees of skill. Think of how good you are with your best hero compared to your worst.
- Some people play when they're tired, drunk, etc, or just goof around
- Experimenting. Sometimes people try builds and heroes they're unfamiliar with.
etc etc

There's too many variables that matchmaking can't account for to expect equal skill level games all the time. Stop being stupid


they should at least make it like hon where mmr is shown

this way the brown/orange (lowest) mmr player knows he has to tryhard and not be totally ass

experimenting when you're the lowest mmr on your team usually leads to a fucking disaster

edit holy shit i just looked at some of your posts no point in tlaking to you..
the throws never bothered me anyway
Kmatt
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1019 Posts
December 05 2013 04:27 GMT
#17002
On December 05 2013 13:01 peidongyang wrote:

they should at least make it like hon where mmr is shown

this way the brown/orange (lowest) mmr player knows he has to tryhard and not be totally ass


If you played HoN you would know that this was a horrible idea. We couldn't even handle games played being available via profile.

Do you honestly expect people to go into a game seeing themselves as brown/orange and saying

"Gee, look at all these great players on my team. I should turn on my "not be totally ass" setting, as opposed to other games, where I play with self-inflicted disadvantages. This is serious business!"
We CAN have nice things
blobrus
Profile Joined August 2011
4297 Posts
December 05 2013 04:47 GMT
#17003
On December 05 2013 02:35 Danglars wrote:
We're Clinkz, Clockwerk, Pudge (little foreshadowing), myself as Windrunner, Dark Seer. Dark seer decides to go Linken's First. Okay, I man up and I'm warding, getting detection for their Templar Assassin and Bounty Hunter. I'd like to play more of a 4 role than a 5, but whatever.

Witch Doctor is getting tons of kills on us with his ult. Oh well, we're still getting tons of kills in return. It's a pretty even game.

Then when we're defending rax, clinkz decides to split push the top and leave the 4 of us on defense. Some overextention, some losses, but we're definitely having a good defense. This is when dark seer gets mad. Clinkz takes out top rax, and both t4 towers. Dark seer says he's not having fun, and proceeds to play a solo game from here on out ... split pushing without the team or strength of clinkz to take rax.

He welcomes the coming loss. It was an easy fight at all stages had we taken one, but they pushed in and fountained with 5 players while dark seer beating away at their fountain while we're all dead. He would rather see us lose as punishment for Clinkz making the decision to push top to fountain instead of joining in team defense.


I'm almost 100% sure I was the on the opposing team. Bh, wd, treant, ta and veno right?
hariooo
Profile Joined October 2013
Canada2830 Posts
December 05 2013 05:11 GMT
#17004
On December 05 2013 13:27 Kmatt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2013 13:01 peidongyang wrote:

they should at least make it like hon where mmr is shown

this way the brown/orange (lowest) mmr player knows he has to tryhard and not be totally ass


If you played HoN you would know that this was a horrible idea. We couldn't even handle games played being available via profile.

Do you honestly expect people to go into a game seeing themselves as brown/orange and saying

"Gee, look at all these great players on my team. I should turn on my "not be totally ass" setting, as opposed to other games, where I play with self-inflicted disadvantages. This is serious business!"


It'll at least shame a few of the people who would've spent the entire game shittalking into shutting the hell up. I'm okay with that.
blobrus
Profile Joined August 2011
4297 Posts
December 05 2013 06:11 GMT
#17005
On December 05 2013 14:11 hariooo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2013 13:27 Kmatt wrote:
On December 05 2013 13:01 peidongyang wrote:

they should at least make it like hon where mmr is shown

this way the brown/orange (lowest) mmr player knows he has to tryhard and not be totally ass


If you played HoN you would know that this was a horrible idea. We couldn't even handle games played being available via profile.

Do you honestly expect people to go into a game seeing themselves as brown/orange and saying

"Gee, look at all these great players on my team. I should turn on my "not be totally ass" setting, as opposed to other games, where I play with self-inflicted disadvantages. This is serious business!"


It'll at least shame a few of the people who would've spent the entire game shittalking into shutting the hell up. I'm okay with that.


Higher mmrs will just shittalk those with lower mmrs even more. It creates a toxic environment.
idonthinksobro
Profile Joined December 2010
3138 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-05 06:56:34
December 05 2013 06:54 GMT
#17006
was playing all pick, random, get furion
start with gloves of haste and a clarity
get sub 5 minute midas
have ~12 minute shadowblade + treads
start helping out whenever i can
but at this point the enemy pudge was already 9-1, humiliating my team.
they don't speak a word english,
i just decide to start the usual splitpushing business
my team can't defend a tower,
later they can't even defend on highground
overextending because someone got low and getting wiped for it
not reacting to commands, pings or chat
get flamed for splitpushing despite me killing all 5 towers we got all game pretty much on my own.

i would pay 10$ immediatly to ban non-english speakers from my games. Despite me using "don't put me in partys when alone" option and preference english i had 4 people in my team that were not speaking english and not even understanding it. But hey cyka cyka suka suka xaxaxaxaxa is very helpful.
convention
Profile Joined October 2011
United States622 Posts
December 05 2013 07:26 GMT
#17007
Just played a game. We got absolutely mauled. Final score about 20-50 or something like that, I went 0-7-13 on bane. So while I wait for the other team to constantly fountain dive us, their team's mirana decides to start criticizing my build. Apparently when our team is getting killed all over the place, I should have gone straight blink dagger instead of forcestaff. I shouldn't have a bracer and wand, I should have gone arcane boots. Of course she's right because I lost so my build didn't work. Blah blah blah, very irritating after the loss to hear how I was horrible when clearly our team was destroyed. So then I look, sure enough the mirana is 1-10-5. Apparently if you win the game, then you are better than everyone else on the other team and have every right to explain to them how they should have played to win.

But what boggles my mind the most: how does someone go 1-10-5 when your team is completely owning?
WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
December 05 2013 07:30 GMT
#17008
On December 05 2013 14:11 hariooo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2013 13:27 Kmatt wrote:
On December 05 2013 13:01 peidongyang wrote:

they should at least make it like hon where mmr is shown

this way the brown/orange (lowest) mmr player knows he has to tryhard and not be totally ass


If you played HoN you would know that this was a horrible idea. We couldn't even handle games played being available via profile.

Do you honestly expect people to go into a game seeing themselves as brown/orange and saying

"Gee, look at all these great players on my team. I should turn on my "not be totally ass" setting, as opposed to other games, where I play with self-inflicted disadvantages. This is serious business!"


It'll at least shame a few of the people who would've spent the entire game shittalking into shutting the hell up. I'm okay with that.

I wish to live in this world of yours, where such people would be quieted by such a small thing as MMR. It sounds so pleasant...
Average means I'm better than half of you.
crimsonSoldier
Profile Joined August 2013
147 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-05 07:59:40
December 05 2013 07:57 GMT
#17009
[image loading]

I had a terrible meltdown after this game. Lich was the only slightly legit teammate, but he attempted to build a second mek too. Edit: No he isn't, this lich bought a quelling blade.

As for the 3 chumps who picked agi carries (limited heroes game)...
My Name is Legion, is Abaddon, is Lucifer, eater of souls.
Aikin
Profile Joined April 2010
Austria532 Posts
December 05 2013 08:17 GMT
#17010
On December 05 2013 14:11 hariooo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2013 13:27 Kmatt wrote:
On December 05 2013 13:01 peidongyang wrote:

they should at least make it like hon where mmr is shown

this way the brown/orange (lowest) mmr player knows he has to tryhard and not be totally ass


If you played HoN you would know that this was a horrible idea. We couldn't even handle games played being available via profile.

Do you honestly expect people to go into a game seeing themselves as brown/orange and saying

"Gee, look at all these great players on my team. I should turn on my "not be totally ass" setting, as opposed to other games, where I play with self-inflicted disadvantages. This is serious business!"


It'll at least shame a few of the people who would've spent the entire game shittalking into shutting the hell up. I'm okay with that.


There where so many cases where peole where flaming oJ and browntown for picking anything then a 5 position and being a wardbitch. It was definitly a shitty idea to sort the people by mmr and I was pretty glad that they changed that. But mmr in general is ok imo.
They could make it like sc2 where you can play ranked and unranked. At least give it a shot.
[A]dmiral Bulldog | Naniwa | [A]lliance
hariooo
Profile Joined October 2013
Canada2830 Posts
December 05 2013 10:49 GMT
#17011
On December 05 2013 17:17 Aikin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2013 14:11 hariooo wrote:
On December 05 2013 13:27 Kmatt wrote:
On December 05 2013 13:01 peidongyang wrote:

they should at least make it like hon where mmr is shown

this way the brown/orange (lowest) mmr player knows he has to tryhard and not be totally ass


If you played HoN you would know that this was a horrible idea. We couldn't even handle games played being available via profile.

Do you honestly expect people to go into a game seeing themselves as brown/orange and saying

"Gee, look at all these great players on my team. I should turn on my "not be totally ass" setting, as opposed to other games, where I play with self-inflicted disadvantages. This is serious business!"


It'll at least shame a few of the people who would've spent the entire game shittalking into shutting the hell up. I'm okay with that.


There where so many cases where peole where flaming oJ and browntown for picking anything then a 5 position and being a wardbitch. It was definitly a shitty idea to sort the people by mmr and I was pretty glad that they changed that. But mmr in general is ok imo.
They could make it like sc2 where you can play ranked and unranked. At least give it a shot.


Well if the goal is to win, there's a lot of sense in making your worst player a 5 position. It's not like they'll always queue as the lowest MMR on a team. Like yeah I get it maybe you want to "have fun" and not be a "tryhard" but being upset that people want to win in a competitive game is, to me, as "toxic" as anything else.''

The one thing LoL did right was All Random All Mid. A casual mode would be nice for people who don't want the stress of trying to win a game.

I agree with the ranked/unranked suggestion though. Sounds like it would fit everyone.
govie
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
9334 Posts
December 05 2013 10:58 GMT
#17012
On December 05 2013 16:57 crimsonSoldier wrote:
[image loading]

I had a terrible meltdown after this game. Lich was the only slightly legit teammate, but he attempted to build a second mek too. Edit: No he isn't, this lich bought a quelling blade.

As for the 3 chumps who picked agi carries (limited heroes game)...


If u pick allpick/limeted pick/captaindraft/capt. u know it wont be balanced. Everyone in here plays for fun. If u want a balanced team, go play with your own team.
The two NBA teams in states with legal weed are called the Nuggets and the Blazers...
acinx
Profile Joined June 2012
Australia181 Posts
December 05 2013 13:01 GMT
#17013
dont worry our mid sf starting with 4 slippers of agility and a skill build of 0 in raze or ult will win us the game!
Spyisaspy
Profile Joined August 2013
United States183 Posts
December 05 2013 19:09 GMT
#17014
Furion

just simply furion
Darkren
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada1841 Posts
December 05 2013 19:10 GMT
#17015
On December 05 2013 22:01 acinx wrote:
dont worry our mid sf starting with 4 slippers of agility and a skill build of 0 in raze or ult will win us the game!


Hey atlest he got the aura, he coulda went stats + souls.

Cause damage rules
"Yeah, I send (hopefully) helpful PM's quite frequently. You don't have to warn/ban everything" - KadaverBB
Quotidian
Profile Joined August 2010
Norway1937 Posts
December 05 2013 20:05 GMT
#17016
I really, really want this in dota

http://www.l4d.com/blog/post.php?id=7025

I've actually abandoned games because I've had successive games with turds who talk shit and act like assholes..
Animzor
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden2154 Posts
December 05 2013 20:09 GMT
#17017
On December 06 2013 05:05 Quotidian wrote:
I really, really want this in dota

http://www.l4d.com/blog/post.php?id=7025

I've actually abandoned games because I've had successive games with turds who talk shit and act like assholes..


You would never play another game of dota again because too many people would be blocked.
Thienan567
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States670 Posts
December 05 2013 20:59 GMT
#17018
dear diary

Once, I was young, and thought that people could be smart. If not smart, at least level headed. If not level headed, at least not dumb. But today I grew up, because I witnessed a storm losing to a sniper mid.
hariooo
Profile Joined October 2013
Canada2830 Posts
December 05 2013 21:07 GMT
#17019
On December 06 2013 05:59 Thienan567 wrote:
dear diary

Once, I was young, and thought that people could be smart. If not smart, at least level headed. If not level headed, at least not dumb. But today I grew up, because I witnessed a storm losing to a sniper mid.


Sniper is surprisingly decent in lane if you can't bully him out. Especially since Storm is weak 1-5 and doesn't have much counterplay against a Sniper who levels Take Aim and just constantly plinks him.

That being said Sniper mid is still shit because every smoke gank should have a 100% chance of killing him and crippling him for the entire game.
govie
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
9334 Posts
December 05 2013 21:22 GMT
#17020
On December 06 2013 06:07 hariooo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2013 05:59 Thienan567 wrote:
dear diary

Once, I was young, and thought that people could be smart. If not smart, at least level headed. If not level headed, at least not dumb. But today I grew up, because I witnessed a storm losing to a sniper mid.


Sniper is surprisingly decent in lane if you can't bully him out. Especially since Storm is weak 1-5 and doesn't have much counterplay against a Sniper who levels Take Aim and just constantly plinks him.

That being said Sniper mid is still shit because every smoke gank should have a 100% chance of killing him and crippling him for the entire game.


Defend tower, forcestaff forward, last hit, blinkdagger back... take that!
The two NBA teams in states with legal weed are called the Nuggets and the Blazers...
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