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TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28102 Posts
November 11 2013 09:22 GMT
#16461
Yet another reason why static link is the most annoying shit ever.
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hmzkht
Profile Joined January 2011
United States18 Posts
November 11 2013 12:34 GMT
#16462
This was a while ago, but I was playing Beastmaster with a Pugna on our team. I gank top and the enemy hero is nearly dead after roar + axes. He runs into sideshop to prolong his death, but when he literally only needed 1 more autoattack to die, Pugna decrepifies him, so we just stand there for a few seconds staring at each other. Then all Pugna does for the rest of the game is yell at me for not using axes when I had clearly already thrown them. Even after I explain to him that they were on cooldown, he somehow thinks that he is still right and that I was lying about my cooldowns????
He then goes afk for the rest of the game.
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15846 Posts
November 11 2013 13:55 GMT
#16463
In the same game, soul ring rusher ogre magi, goes 4 4 0 0 build maxing ignite 1st, he fed the entire game, missed tons of early kills because he had no TP. The ennemy BH farms our jungle naix, the ogre and later the drow. Invoker is zoned to tier 2 by qop, only one point in quas at level 5 against qop poison sting... He never upgraded his boots, prefering going for other items and stay at 330 ms. Meanwhile I solo offlane against jugg who starts without regen item, I towerdive him at level 2 as undying, get firstblood, chen and windrunner manage to kill me, still worth it. Then valve server fuck up and they killed me during the 5 people disconnected at the same time. Oh so much shit going on into one single game.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
Danglars
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States12133 Posts
November 11 2013 14:10 GMT
#16464
I was noobin it up learning invoker solo pub. Didn't critically examine team lineup to see that there was a decent shot at no courier. Somewhere inside me I thought one of the gankers would get it to cover (both riki and slardar were picked) or enchantress biting the bullet for a jungler. Surely mid didn't need to get.

Raged kinda hard, ignored team. Earthshaker didn't want to be ignored so super stacked creeps.


19 melee creeps 4 ranged creeps are unleashed in a wave through our top lane.
Top tower dies at 10:14. 30 creeps tream onwards.
Top T2 tower dies at 10:58. Oh man I haven't seen this in pro games or any TeamLiquid thread what is going on?
Top T3 tower dies at 11:42!.
Time to stop raging and be a team player and try to remember the invoker spells I learned from the strat thread!

Much pub noobery (not least of ways mine) continues but our carries carry me. Riki 26-3-10 ursa 14-4-8 most deaths at 4, we win. I'm a pitifully low bronze league hero and wtf is happening with the new creep tsunami?

Match ID: 379812126
Great armies come from happy zealots, and happy zealots come from California!
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-Celestial-
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom3867 Posts
November 11 2013 15:37 GMT
#16465
On November 11 2013 23:10 Danglars wrote:
I was noobin it up learning invoker solo pub. Didn't critically examine team lineup to see that there was a decent shot at no courier. Somewhere inside me I thought one of the gankers would get it to cover (both riki and slardar were picked) or enchantress biting the bullet for a jungler. Surely mid didn't need to get.

Raged kinda hard, ignored team. Earthshaker didn't want to be ignored so super stacked creeps.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HbaOODhH490

19 melee creeps 4 ranged creeps are unleashed in a wave through our top lane.
Top tower dies at 10:14. 30 creeps tream onwards.
Top T2 tower dies at 10:58. Oh man I haven't seen this in pro games or any TeamLiquid thread what is going on?
Top T3 tower dies at 11:42!.
Time to stop raging and be a team player and try to remember the invoker spells I learned from the strat thread!

Much pub noobery (not least of ways mine) continues but our carries carry me. Riki 26-3-10 ursa 14-4-8 most deaths at 4, we win. I'm a pitifully low bronze league hero and wtf is happening with the new creep tsunami?

Match ID: 379812126



Is it bad that I really, REALLY want to try this now?

Also the music on that video makes it hillarious.
"Protoss simultaneously feels unbeatably strong and unwinnably weak." - kcdc
hooahah
Profile Joined October 2011
3752 Posts
November 11 2013 16:10 GMT
#16466
seriously...fuck broodmother. If the guy wasn't dumb enough to get Radiance vs a Nyx, we would've lost for sure. Fucking retarded hero now.
Oukka
Profile Blog Joined September 2012
Finland1683 Posts
November 11 2013 16:43 GMT
#16467
On November 11 2013 23:10 Danglars wrote:
I was noobin it up learning invoker solo pub. Didn't critically examine team lineup to see that there was a decent shot at no courier. Somewhere inside me I thought one of the gankers would get it to cover (both riki and slardar were picked) or enchantress biting the bullet for a jungler. Surely mid didn't need to get.

Raged kinda hard, ignored team. Earthshaker didn't want to be ignored so super stacked creeps.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HbaOODhH490

19 melee creeps 4 ranged creeps are unleashed in a wave through our top lane.
Top tower dies at 10:14. 30 creeps tream onwards.
Top T2 tower dies at 10:58. Oh man I haven't seen this in pro games or any TeamLiquid thread what is going on?
Top T3 tower dies at 11:42!.
Time to stop raging and be a team player and try to remember the invoker spells I learned from the strat thread!

Much pub noobery (not least of ways mine) continues but our carries carry me. Riki 26-3-10 ursa 14-4-8 most deaths at 4, we win. I'm a pitifully low bronze league hero and wtf is happening with the new creep tsunami?

Match ID: 379812126


I think you can stop that by destroying one tree behind the enemy t1. Had the same thing happening to me and I had no clue whatsoever. Not sure which tree exactly but tango or quelling blade or any skill that destroys trees should be enough.
I play children's card games and watch a lot of dota, CS and HS
DavoS
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States4605 Posts
November 11 2013 16:45 GMT
#16468
After destroying a game as Clockwerk, I get into another random draft. My team was Pudge, DK, Tide, and I picked witch doctor because if I don't support nobody will. Last guy doesn't know what he wants to play, so it randoms TA for him. They have Viper, Ursa, nyx, Lifestealer, and Dark Seer. Essentially, all heroes that would LOVE for TA to go on them(spiked carapace, earthshock and all other ursa right click modifiers, lifestealer stealing life), and making it 4 melee hero against fucking Viper lifestealer.
I go top with DK, and we're against a solo safe lane Nyx. I start right clicking him when I'm not denying because harass. DK sees my passive right clicks in between denies and decides this is a cue to go HAM. Level one tower dive commences, and he gets his dragon tail countered by spiked carapace and dies. This repeats itself roughly 6 or 7 times before then ten minute mark, with Lifestealer coming out of the jungle to benefit from the free gold and xp they get every minute or so from DK being suicidal. I also liked his build: max dragon tail, then max Fire Breath without using it all game, ignore ulti, and one point in Dragon Blood. Obviously I get raped too because the first two tower dives I thought I could save his dumb ass, and after that if I was in the same zip code as DK I was dead. Meanwhile Pudge only manages to break even vs Viper mid, and TA goes 1-7-0 bot lane. Clutch random bro.
The thing I hate about being a support is that if your carries are shit, you can't really change the game. Want to go place wards? Well, unless your team goes with you as five you will get picked off and die because your carries didn't stop pushes or do anything to create map control.
I really hated how after we were already behind, the team would 2v5 into them constantly. What do you do as a support in those situations, jump in and pray you can help pick of at least one of them while you still have a T3 standing? Or wait for that pair to die and the other pair of your team to get back and hope they haven't regen'ed from the last fight and they're killable?
Moral of the story; don't play carry if you suck, and please don't random in Random Draft
"KDA is actually the most useless stat in the game" Aui_2000
hooahah
Profile Joined October 2011
3752 Posts
November 11 2013 17:22 GMT
#16469
If your team is suicidal and bad while you're playing support, the only thing left to do is to acknolwedge that the game is lost and just ride it out.
hooahah
Profile Joined October 2011
3752 Posts
November 11 2013 22:13 GMT
#16470
Game starts, I randomed Morphling. Well, this is already a lost game, this hero is cursed for me.

I was right. Teammates proceeded to pick 4 cores. Pudge can't actually do anything to save his life, goes 0-8-5 until he finally just starts outright trolling by hooking me. (did I mention he was muted), Furion jungled without his treants (????) and Jugg rushed an Aghs (and didn't finish it by minute 40). Brood got BoTs for some fucking reason.

What the actual fuck
Danglars
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States12133 Posts
November 11 2013 23:30 GMT
#16471
On November 12 2013 01:43 Oukka wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 11 2013 23:10 Danglars wrote:
I was noobin it up learning invoker solo pub. Didn't critically examine team lineup to see that there was a decent shot at no courier. Somewhere inside me I thought one of the gankers would get it to cover (both riki and slardar were picked) or enchantress biting the bullet for a jungler. Surely mid didn't need to get.

Raged kinda hard, ignored team. Earthshaker didn't want to be ignored so super stacked creeps.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HbaOODhH490

19 melee creeps 4 ranged creeps are unleashed in a wave through our top lane.
Top tower dies at 10:14. 30 creeps tream onwards.
Top T2 tower dies at 10:58. Oh man I haven't seen this in pro games or any TeamLiquid thread what is going on?
Top T3 tower dies at 11:42!.
Time to stop raging and be a team player and try to remember the invoker spells I learned from the strat thread!

Much pub noobery (not least of ways mine) continues but our carries carry me. Riki 26-3-10 ursa 14-4-8 most deaths at 4, we win. I'm a pitifully low bronze league hero and wtf is happening with the new creep tsunami?

Match ID: 379812126


I think you can stop that by destroying one tree behind the enemy t1. Had the same thing happening to me and I had no clue whatsoever. Not sure which tree exactly but tango or quelling blade or any skill that destroys trees should be enough.

We need a little more publicity on this. I am a beginner and in whatever MMR range I get paired up against, this was 4 heroes beating on top lane rax at before 12 MINUTES! Lineup was Slardar Riki Ursa Enchantress Invoker (me). If I knew this was happening (and I will be VERY sure to pay attention to what's happening with creeps top lane if they have a missing earthshaker/earthshaker only nominally top) I'm sure a couple of us could roam and gank. 30 creeps in a wave is way too much.
Great armies come from happy zealots, and happy zealots come from California!
TL+ Member
TRAP[yoo]
Profile Joined December 2009
Hungary6026 Posts
November 11 2013 23:49 GMT
#16472
i random and get ta. enemy picks veno,ench,dazzle and they are just sitting mid. what do?
FTD
Appendix
Profile Joined July 2009
Sweden979 Posts
November 11 2013 23:56 GMT
#16473
On November 12 2013 08:30 Danglars wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2013 01:43 Oukka wrote:
On November 11 2013 23:10 Danglars wrote:
I was noobin it up learning invoker solo pub. Didn't critically examine team lineup to see that there was a decent shot at no courier. Somewhere inside me I thought one of the gankers would get it to cover (both riki and slardar were picked) or enchantress biting the bullet for a jungler. Surely mid didn't need to get.

Raged kinda hard, ignored team. Earthshaker didn't want to be ignored so super stacked creeps.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HbaOODhH490

19 melee creeps 4 ranged creeps are unleashed in a wave through our top lane.
Top tower dies at 10:14. 30 creeps tream onwards.
Top T2 tower dies at 10:58. Oh man I haven't seen this in pro games or any TeamLiquid thread what is going on?
Top T3 tower dies at 11:42!.
Time to stop raging and be a team player and try to remember the invoker spells I learned from the strat thread!

Much pub noobery (not least of ways mine) continues but our carries carry me. Riki 26-3-10 ursa 14-4-8 most deaths at 4, we win. I'm a pitifully low bronze league hero and wtf is happening with the new creep tsunami?

Match ID: 379812126


I think you can stop that by destroying one tree behind the enemy t1. Had the same thing happening to me and I had no clue whatsoever. Not sure which tree exactly but tango or quelling blade or any skill that destroys trees should be enough.

We need a little more publicity on this. I am a beginner and in whatever MMR range I get paired up against, this was 4 heroes beating on top lane rax at before 12 MINUTES! Lineup was Slardar Riki Ursa Enchantress Invoker (me). If I knew this was happening (and I will be VERY sure to pay attention to what's happening with creeps top lane if they have a missing earthshaker/earthshaker only nominally top) I'm sure a couple of us could roam and gank. 30 creeps in a wave is way too much.

I think it already is pretty public. When radiant has earthshaker, especially in combination with someone who can tank and kill whole waves like axe or dark seer, you just have to be aware of the risk of it happening. It's one of those things you have to learn to recognize in the same way as ancient medusa/tinker, good lvl 1 rosh combos or potential lvl 1 first blood attempts.
Danglars
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States12133 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-12 00:46:44
November 12 2013 00:09 GMT
#16474
On November 12 2013 08:56 Appendix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2013 08:30 Danglars wrote:
On November 12 2013 01:43 Oukka wrote:
On November 11 2013 23:10 Danglars wrote:
I was noobin it up learning invoker solo pub. Didn't critically examine team lineup to see that there was a decent shot at no courier. Somewhere inside me I thought one of the gankers would get it to cover (both riki and slardar were picked) or enchantress biting the bullet for a jungler. Surely mid didn't need to get.

Raged kinda hard, ignored team. Earthshaker didn't want to be ignored so super stacked creeps.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HbaOODhH490

19 melee creeps 4 ranged creeps are unleashed in a wave through our top lane.
Top tower dies at 10:14. 30 creeps tream onwards.
Top T2 tower dies at 10:58. Oh man I haven't seen this in pro games or any TeamLiquid thread what is going on?
Top T3 tower dies at 11:42!.
Time to stop raging and be a team player and try to remember the invoker spells I learned from the strat thread!

Much pub noobery (not least of ways mine) continues but our carries carry me. Riki 26-3-10 ursa 14-4-8 most deaths at 4, we win. I'm a pitifully low bronze league hero and wtf is happening with the new creep tsunami?

Match ID: 379812126


I think you can stop that by destroying one tree behind the enemy t1. Had the same thing happening to me and I had no clue whatsoever. Not sure which tree exactly but tango or quelling blade or any skill that destroys trees should be enough.

We need a little more publicity on this. I am a beginner and in whatever MMR range I get paired up against, this was 4 heroes beating on top lane rax at before 12 MINUTES! Lineup was Slardar Riki Ursa Enchantress Invoker (me). If I knew this was happening (and I will be VERY sure to pay attention to what's happening with creeps top lane if they have a missing earthshaker/earthshaker only nominally top) I'm sure a couple of us could roam and gank. 30 creeps in a wave is way too much.

I think it already is pretty public. When radiant has earthshaker, especially in combination with someone who can tank and kill whole waves like axe or dark seer, you just have to be aware of the risk of it happening. It's one of those things you have to learn to recognize in the same way as ancient medusa/tinker, good lvl 1 rosh combos or potential lvl 1 first blood attempts.

The Actual Game


Let me answer the question on publicity. I watched TI2 and TI3, maybe 50 replays of other people and friends, maybe 40 games myself, so I'm still a beginner. I know with that kind of exposure that this is a lesser known trick that isn't likely to be exposed in similar manner to level 1 rosh (I saw this in tournaments and multiple public games). It is not even close to the category of First Blood attempts. That is so core to Dota 2 that you should recognize who gets stuns and long range disables and slows to pair with others with damage or movement. This is not core. This is a member of the QQ Thread. ES has this nifty little thing that you probably have not seen if you're a beginner. It is not very public at all when compared to the very public level 1 ganks/roams, level 1 rosh, and novelties like BS/Invoker or BS/AA type things.
Great armies come from happy zealots, and happy zealots come from California!
TL+ Member
Appendix
Profile Joined July 2009
Sweden979 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-12 01:00:36
November 12 2013 00:42 GMT
#16475
On November 12 2013 09:09 Danglars wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2013 08:56 Appendix wrote:
On November 12 2013 08:30 Danglars wrote:
On November 12 2013 01:43 Oukka wrote:
On November 11 2013 23:10 Danglars wrote:
I was noobin it up learning invoker solo pub. Didn't critically examine team lineup to see that there was a decent shot at no courier. Somewhere inside me I thought one of the gankers would get it to cover (both riki and slardar were picked) or enchantress biting the bullet for a jungler. Surely mid didn't need to get.

Raged kinda hard, ignored team. Earthshaker didn't want to be ignored so super stacked creeps.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HbaOODhH490

19 melee creeps 4 ranged creeps are unleashed in a wave through our top lane.
Top tower dies at 10:14. 30 creeps tream onwards.
Top T2 tower dies at 10:58. Oh man I haven't seen this in pro games or any TeamLiquid thread what is going on?
Top T3 tower dies at 11:42!.
Time to stop raging and be a team player and try to remember the invoker spells I learned from the strat thread!

Much pub noobery (not least of ways mine) continues but our carries carry me. Riki 26-3-10 ursa 14-4-8 most deaths at 4, we win. I'm a pitifully low bronze league hero and wtf is happening with the new creep tsunami?

Match ID: 379812126


I think you can stop that by destroying one tree behind the enemy t1. Had the same thing happening to me and I had no clue whatsoever. Not sure which tree exactly but tango or quelling blade or any skill that destroys trees should be enough.

We need a little more publicity on this. I am a beginner and in whatever MMR range I get paired up against, this was 4 heroes beating on top lane rax at before 12 MINUTES! Lineup was Slardar Riki Ursa Enchantress Invoker (me). If I knew this was happening (and I will be VERY sure to pay attention to what's happening with creeps top lane if they have a missing earthshaker/earthshaker only nominally top) I'm sure a couple of us could roam and gank. 30 creeps in a wave is way too much.

I think it already is pretty public. When radiant has earthshaker, especially in combination with someone who can tank and kill whole waves like axe or dark seer, you just have to be aware of the risk of it happening. It's one of those things you have to learn to recognize in the same way as ancient medusa/tinker, good lvl 1 rosh combos or potential lvl 1 first blood attempts.

The Actual Game

Let me answer the question on publicity. I watched TI2 and TI3, maybe 50 replays of other people and friends, maybe 40 games myself, so I'm still a beginner. I know with that kind of exposure that this is a lesser known trick that isn't likely to be exposed in similar manner to level 1 rosh (I saw this in tournaments and multiple public games). It is not even close to the category of First Blood attempts. That is so core to Dota 2 that you should recognize who gets stuns and long range disables and slows to pair with others with damage or movement. This is not core. This is a member of the QQ Thread. ES has this nifty little thing that you probably have not seen if you're a beginner. It is not very public at all when compared to the very public level 1 ganks/roams, level 1 rosh, and novelties like BS/Invoker or BS/AA type things.


There are hundreds of different kinds of shenanigans you can pull in Dota, ranging from competitively viable or common to very obscure and situational. I would put this one more towards the common end of the spectrum. Most seasoned players recognize this, and if you don't you just have to accept the learning experience. It's not a very strong tactic, and more often than not it fails in my experience. The reason it was so successful against is you was your ignorance accompanied by a glaring lack of AoE.
Danglars
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States12133 Posts
November 12 2013 00:49 GMT
#16476
On November 12 2013 09:42 Appendix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2013 09:09 Danglars wrote:
On November 12 2013 08:56 Appendix wrote:
On November 12 2013 08:30 Danglars wrote:
On November 12 2013 01:43 Oukka wrote:
On November 11 2013 23:10 Danglars wrote:
I was noobin it up learning invoker solo pub. Didn't critically examine team lineup to see that there was a decent shot at no courier. Somewhere inside me I thought one of the gankers would get it to cover (both riki and slardar were picked) or enchantress biting the bullet for a jungler. Surely mid didn't need to get.

Raged kinda hard, ignored team. Earthshaker didn't want to be ignored so super stacked creeps.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HbaOODhH490

19 melee creeps 4 ranged creeps are unleashed in a wave through our top lane.
Top tower dies at 10:14. 30 creeps tream onwards.
Top T2 tower dies at 10:58. Oh man I haven't seen this in pro games or any TeamLiquid thread what is going on?
Top T3 tower dies at 11:42!.
Time to stop raging and be a team player and try to remember the invoker spells I learned from the strat thread!

Much pub noobery (not least of ways mine) continues but our carries carry me. Riki 26-3-10 ursa 14-4-8 most deaths at 4, we win. I'm a pitifully low bronze league hero and wtf is happening with the new creep tsunami?

Match ID: 379812126


I think you can stop that by destroying one tree behind the enemy t1. Had the same thing happening to me and I had no clue whatsoever. Not sure which tree exactly but tango or quelling blade or any skill that destroys trees should be enough.

We need a little more publicity on this. I am a beginner and in whatever MMR range I get paired up against, this was 4 heroes beating on top lane rax at before 12 MINUTES! Lineup was Slardar Riki Ursa Enchantress Invoker (me). If I knew this was happening (and I will be VERY sure to pay attention to what's happening with creeps top lane if they have a missing earthshaker/earthshaker only nominally top) I'm sure a couple of us could roam and gank. 30 creeps in a wave is way too much.

I think it already is pretty public. When radiant has earthshaker, especially in combination with someone who can tank and kill whole waves like axe or dark seer, you just have to be aware of the risk of it happening. It's one of those things you have to learn to recognize in the same way as ancient medusa/tinker, good lvl 1 rosh combos or potential lvl 1 first blood attempts.

The Actual Game
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGJHzrZfAy8

Let me answer the question on publicity. I watched TI2 and TI3, maybe 50 replays of other people and friends, maybe 40 games myself, so I'm still a beginner. I know with that kind of exposure that this is a lesser known trick that isn't likely to be exposed in similar manner to level 1 rosh (I saw this in tournaments and multiple public games). It is not even close to the category of First Blood attempts. That is so core to Dota 2 that you should recognize who gets stuns and long range disables and slows to pair with others with damage or movement. This is not core. This is a member of the QQ Thread. ES has this nifty little thing that you probably have not seen if you're a beginner. It is not very public at all when compared to the very public level 1 ganks/roams, level 1 rosh, and novelties like BS/Invoker or BS/AA type things.


There are hundreds of different kinds of shenanigans you can pull in Dota, ranging from competitively viable or common to very obscure and situational. I would put this one more towards the common end of the spectrum. Most seasoned players recognize this, and if you don't you just have to accept the learning experience. It's not a very strong tactic, and more often than not it fails in my experience. The reason it was so successful against is you was your ignorance accompanied by a glaring lack of AoE.

It's the QQ Thread so I'm done here. You and I place this at very different ends of the spectrum.
Great armies come from happy zealots, and happy zealots come from California!
TL+ Member
hacklebeast
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5090 Posts
November 12 2013 04:46 GMT
#16477
I have a little over 1000 games now and I'm willing to go out on a limb and say: if anyone said anything more than "mis mid" in a game, was not a positive interaction.
Protoss: Best, Paralyze, Jangbi, Nal_Ra || Terran: Oov, Boxer, Fantasy, Hiya|| Zerg: Yellow, Zero
1nobody
Profile Joined May 2013
Czech Republic2040 Posts
November 12 2013 07:21 GMT
#16478
Rat doto made me pick nyx TT
hooahah
Profile Joined October 2011
3752 Posts
November 12 2013 11:25 GMT
#16479
On November 12 2013 16:21 1nobody wrote:
Rat doto made me pick nyx TT


it's ok to pick Nyx now, he isn't op anymore
Jetaap
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France4814 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-12 14:59:07
November 12 2013 14:57 GMT
#16480
So i got this single draft game where I ended up being the only support (venomancer), then I realized that our furion for going to afk jungle (he was muted as well), and that our ursa also was heading to the jungle...
Meanwhile sniper feeds vs clock mid and I got to go against clinkz/tusk who dived me but of course NP never tped eventhough they both ended up with less than 100 hp.
Did i mention NP went for a dagon no boot rush?
This was the kind of game that it so bad that you cant even be mad.
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