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Please remember that while this thread is for QQ and venting about the game, racism is not tolerated here on LD.
willstertben
Profile Joined May 2013
427 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-01 15:19:43
November 01 2013 15:19 GMT
#16201
we were losing all lanes and the game looked like it was over. everyone was kinda pissed as you would expect.
then suddenly we have one really good/lucky teamfight and wipe them.
big creep wave at bottom, our spectre who had his radiance after that fight goes to farm it, but nyx steals pretty much the whole wave with impale.
i was still pretty pissed and i told him to "let spectre farm you idiot". BIG MISTAKE!

nyx proceeded to feed + feed couriers for the next 25 minutes (yes it still took our opponents that long to finish cause we were snowballing off of that one team wipe, but in the end courier feeding was too much sadly).
his reason?


"i don't like it when people are being rude."


i'm thinking it's about time for him to get off the internet then.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
November 01 2013 15:22 GMT
#16202
The internet, where apparently you feel justified being rude to somebody because you can't actually see them.
LiquidDota StaffSCIENTISTS BAFFLED | 3275929302
TheSubtleArt
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada2527 Posts
November 01 2013 15:25 GMT
#16203
On November 01 2013 23:42 Dfgj wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2013 22:24 icystorage wrote:
On November 01 2013 22:21 hariooo wrote:
People who expect mid to gank before 10 minutes are basically awful at this game.

uh its pretty common for mids to gank pre-10 mins or even at the first night depending on the rune

But not every mid is a ganker, and it's frequently more valuable for supports to gank mid.

He's rightfully complaining that many pubs assuming mid=gank with no other conditions.

Report OD, no gank.

And yea, if the opponent's carry gets good farm it's immediately the mids fault : (
Dodge arrows
SupLilSon
Profile Joined October 2011
Malaysia4123 Posts
November 01 2013 15:53 GMT
#16204
On November 01 2013 23:42 Dfgj wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2013 22:24 icystorage wrote:
On November 01 2013 22:21 hariooo wrote:
People who expect mid to gank before 10 minutes are basically awful at this game.

uh its pretty common for mids to gank pre-10 mins or even at the first night depending on the rune

But not every mid is a ganker, and it's frequently more valuable for supports to gank mid.

He's rightfully complaining that many pubs assuming mid=gank with no other conditions.


Youre not playing mid correctly if you arent winning at least 3 lanes for your team simultaneously.
BlitzerSC
Profile Joined May 2011
Italy8800 Posts
November 01 2013 16:07 GMT
#16205
On November 01 2013 23:42 Dfgj wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2013 22:24 icystorage wrote:
On November 01 2013 22:21 hariooo wrote:
People who expect mid to gank before 10 minutes are basically awful at this game.

uh its pretty common for mids to gank pre-10 mins or even at the first night depending on the rune

But not every mid is a ganker, and it's frequently more valuable for supports to gank mid.

He's rightfully complaining that many pubs assuming mid=gank with no other conditions.


Not really, I'm quite annoyed by these mid pros who pick something like OD and never leave their lane to gank or do something. Mid lane is the most important lane in the game because you are probably gonna have a level and farm advantage over the sidelanes so it's your job to do something about the lanes that are losing, no matter why the lanes are losing.
Just lost a game because our mid Kunkka never left mid lane while the enemy mid ganked and won the game for them.
While something like this MIGHT work in a pro game, in a pub game it won't work.

tl;dr: Gank the sidelanes even if you are not supposed to, don't wait for other people (ie supports) to do that for you because you are not playing a pro game.
Fruscainte
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
4596 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-01 16:30:47
November 01 2013 16:30 GMT
#16206
Hey guys, pro tip for life here:

If you're a Dark Seer and you're going 3-15 and it was you who singlehandedly fed the enemy Alchemist/NP into unkillable status, please, for the love of god, don't bitch and moan that "your team" is shit and that "I just melt and I don't know why". And further, don't blame the PA and QoP who were both in position to win the game they were wrecking people so hard before you went on a feeding fest.
hooahah
Profile Joined October 2011
3752 Posts
November 01 2013 18:06 GMT
#16207
On November 02 2013 00:22 Sn0_Man wrote:
The internet, where apparently you feel justified being rude to somebody because you can't actually see them.


boo hoo someone called him out on a mistake, time to throw a shitfit and ruin the game for everyone
Zocat
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2229 Posts
November 01 2013 18:09 GMT
#16208
On November 02 2013 03:06 hooahah wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2013 00:22 Sn0_Man wrote:
The internet, where apparently you feel justified being rude to somebody because you can't actually see them.


boo hoo someone called him out on a mistake, time to throw a shitfit and ruin the game for everyone


It's not hard to say "Sorry, I was in a moment of rage, didnt mean it".
Oh wait - we're talking about kids here. Yeah, it's hard and easier to shift the blame
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
November 01 2013 18:15 GMT
#16209
Its not at all that the game-ruiner was doing anything OK or right, its that the person QQing in this thread felt that he was somehow justified in being an asshole because "its the internet" and the other person doesn't belong on the internet if they aren't OK with being belittled and insulted.
LiquidDota StaffSCIENTISTS BAFFLED | 3275929302
TRAP[yoo]
Profile Joined December 2009
Hungary6026 Posts
November 01 2013 18:21 GMT
#16210
so the solo mid tinker claims he is such a good player because he has the highest level and the highest cs in our team...
sick skills to have more farm than axe and witchdoctor...what a player
FTD
Dfgj
Profile Joined May 2008
Singapore5922 Posts
November 01 2013 19:03 GMT
#16211
On November 02 2013 03:15 Sn0_Man wrote:
Its not at all that the game-ruiner was doing anything OK or right, its that the person QQing in this thread felt that he was somehow justified in being an asshole because "its the internet" and the other person doesn't belong on the internet if they aren't OK with being belittled and insulted.

If you fuck up intentionally (nyx didn't blunder) and get called out on it, acting like its the other person's problem is not appropriate.

Insults don't make things better but they also don't ruin the game like his response did.
willstertben
Profile Joined May 2013
427 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-01 20:26:36
November 01 2013 20:15 GMT
#16212
On November 02 2013 03:15 Sn0_Man wrote:
Its not at all that the game-ruiner was doing anything OK or right, its that the person QQing in this thread felt that he was somehow justified in being an asshole because "its the internet" and the other person doesn't belong on the internet if they aren't OK with being belittled and insulted.


what? i never said anything like that.
you just wildly misinterpreted what i said. any chance that nyx was you?

firstly, "idiot" is pretty harmless compared to the stuff you will see in most games of dota.
secondly i made it clear that everyone on my team including me was a bit mad in that game because it was going so poorly so that's what made me say that.

and finally i wasn't justifying calling him an idiot with "its the internet, deal with it". i was just pointing out that if you hate rudeness this much then most of the internet, AND ESPECIALLY most of dota is really hostile territory for you.


also:

who's the bigger 'asshole':
a) me calling that nyx an idiot because he did something stupid and i would like him to not do it again so we could have won

or

b) one guy (nyx) ruining a potentially good game and wasting 45 minutes of 9 other people just because he didn't like a word someone said to him?

hm?

iokke
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1179 Posts
November 01 2013 20:21 GMT
#16213
Ugh
So we are losing, im doing pretty crappy but im Medusa, not all is lost.. Get we easily win next team fight, push mid and 2 of them bb. 3 of us can take those 2 and if we wipe them again we can definitely rax them. I call the fight, then bat isn't there, just see him randomly running back... apparently he dced right at the start of the fight... we get them pretty low but I die, they get the rapier and easily win the next push. Burns cause I just started to get hope, and it coulda been such a nice comeback.. oh well
Crop circles are Chuck Norris' way of telling the world that sometimes corn needs to lie the f*** down. rerereredit.. I never get it right the 1st time
hooahah
Profile Joined October 2011
3752 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-01 21:18:12
November 01 2013 21:16 GMT
#16214
Quiz time: How would you lane Dazzle, Doom, Pudge, Slark and Broodmother?

Answer according to my team: Dazzle (me) solo suicide, Pudge mid, Brood/Slark/Doom Trilane

Slark ended the game after 45 minutes with Treads, Wand, Vanguard. Game was not good.

My two other games were also filled with retards (on my team) and really, really good players on the other team. The fuck matchmaking
Gotuso
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands733 Posts
November 01 2013 23:02 GMT
#16215
Sigh, 3 games in a row that where just really terrible. One game we had a last minute pudge pick who went offlane with Morphling. Next game we had a last minute Meepo jungle that went 0-12. Game after that we where winning with a farmed riki/team, people where buying silly items etc. Then 3 people decided to take rax vs 5, our team died and we last 2 lanes of rax. GG

Not a good night of dota.
crimsonSoldier
Profile Joined August 2013
147 Posts
November 02 2013 00:31 GMT
#16216
On November 02 2013 01:07 BlitzerSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2013 23:42 Dfgj wrote:
On November 01 2013 22:24 icystorage wrote:
On November 01 2013 22:21 hariooo wrote:
People who expect mid to gank before 10 minutes are basically awful at this game.

uh its pretty common for mids to gank pre-10 mins or even at the first night depending on the rune

But not every mid is a ganker, and it's frequently more valuable for supports to gank mid.

He's rightfully complaining that many pubs assuming mid=gank with no other conditions.


Not really, I'm quite annoyed by these mid pros who pick something like OD and never leave their lane to gank or do something. Mid lane is the most important lane in the game because you are probably gonna have a level and farm advantage over the sidelanes so it's your job to do something about the lanes that are losing, no matter why the lanes are losing.
Just lost a game because our mid Kunkka never left mid lane while the enemy mid ganked and won the game for them.
While something like this MIGHT work in a pro game, in a pub game it won't work.

tl;dr: Gank the sidelanes even if you are not supposed to, don't wait for other people (ie supports) to do that for you because you are not playing a pro game.


Seriously, ganking requires
1) Wards in river
2) Rune control + finding good runes
Otherwise it's just a massive waste of time. Because you not only might fail, but more seriously you are losing the farm in mid.

On heroes like QOP or Pudge, ganking can be more beneficial. For QOP, blink allows her to traverse map quickly. For Pudge, he is unlikely to get much gold out of mid.

However, for OD or Viper for example, they are much better off dominating mid and shutting down opposing mid solo. Speaking from experience (100% WR as mid solo viper in VH).
My Name is Legion, is Abaddon, is Lucifer, eater of souls.
Makro
Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
November 02 2013 02:03 GMT
#16217
yeaaaaaaaaa pro weaver he thinks he can't die so he buys a rapier, then he lost it two times in a row, and we lost because of that

Matthew 5:10 "Blessed are those who are persecuted because of shitposting, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven".
TL+ Member
SilverSkyLark
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Philippines8437 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-02 02:22:57
November 02 2013 02:22 GMT
#16218
Not really a game QQ. We were winning early on and I was warding our lane against Riki and Weaver and Riki started to feed us cuz apparently he did not know how to play when the enemy wards the lane. He starts to trash talk and shit and my friend trash talks him as well. It's mostly correcting Riki's grammar and the occasional "noob" and "we don't even need a gem to kill you" kind of trash talk. I pm'ed my friend over Steam to stop, cuz he might get reported for communication abuse. I thought he'd stop but he didn't and it irritated me cuz the Riki was just being butthurt and my friend decided to trashtalk. Some people really just won't let things like these pass. ~_~
"If i lost an arm, I would play w3." -IntoTheWow || "Member of Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk cafe. He's the next Jaedong, baby!"
SolarFlare93
Profile Joined August 2013
Australia301 Posts
November 02 2013 02:27 GMT
#16219
I had a bane abandon this game - in the offlane he keeps pushing the lane, keeps spamming all his mana, gets into bad spots and almost dies. I tell him he's playing too aggressive and abandons -.-
Meerel
Profile Joined March 2012
Germany713 Posts
November 02 2013 02:50 GMT
#16220
wow these games today.......i play and somehow the game is lost after 5 minutes..i dont even know
SDMF
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