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zezamer
Profile Joined March 2011
Finland5701 Posts
October 20 2013 12:30 GMT
#15861
trying to argue with axe why boots blink hood aghs isnt good build
hooahah
Profile Joined October 2011
3752 Posts
October 20 2013 15:06 GMT
#15862
On October 20 2013 20:27 Alur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2013 14:27 hooahah wrote:
Vanguard Kunkka

why is this a thing

Show nested quote +
On February 07 2013 08:14 Sing_Sing wrote:
On February 07 2013 02:41 wreckless wrote:
Sing, can you explain why you build the items you do on kunkka?
Why full vanguard instead of just vit booster? Why do you build so tanky in general?
Why are you the one to build the drums? You say you have no mana all the time, why not something with some mana regen like perseverance or soul ring?

Drums are actually to increase his mana pool for the most part, otherwise it's still a nice team buff. The reason why I always call that I need mana is for the supports with mana boots to save theire cooldown for me. And finally, a full vanguard is really nice to go upfront and tank up for your team so your utility heroes can setup better. (think magnus/rubick/disrupter etc.) The extra blocking percentage and health regen is also very useful for jungle farming without dropping much from your max HP.


Ok, that's...neat to know I guess. Nontheless I disagree with it, my teammate Kunkka didn't use it for jungle farming (because he didn't at all) and we already had a tanky character, we needed Kunkka to do damage not take it...

basically this is another case of people imitating pros without realizing what's the logic behind it
Dfgj
Profile Joined May 2008
Singapore5922 Posts
October 20 2013 15:47 GMT
#15863
On October 20 2013 17:02 Enki wrote:
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Ok, just got done with a game which my team lost. Game ends, people get their items and shit yada-yada...then it still says the game is still going on. Fucking pile of shit servers kept discing me before this game so maybe I shoulda just gave up on playing Dota 2 for the night. The game worked fine though but this shit would still come up after trying to "leave" a game that was already over.

I better not get a fucking abandon for this stupid shit Valve.

Nobody gets abandons for this, everyone gets d/c'd when that happens. Plus, it was after the game ended.
SkelA
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Macedonia13081 Posts
October 20 2013 16:53 GMT
#15864
My score in the last 13 games is 1-12... thanks valve for your great MMR.
Stork and KHAN fan till 2012 ...
Mania[K]al
Profile Joined May 2009
United States359 Posts
October 20 2013 17:36 GMT
#15865
How come every single person from South America plays as equally terrible as the last?

User was warned for this post
Phyre
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States1288 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-20 19:01:16
October 20 2013 18:58 GMT
#15866
Single Draft, I get Zeus/Faceless Void/Centaur. I wanted to play Zeus mid for fun but the team says it would be a bad matchup against a Pudge and we need a hard carry. So I picked FV and say I'll carry then. I get into the game and the people telling me to carry are piloting a Necrolyte and an Ursa, both in the safelane. I go "wtf, you told me to carry" and they just ignore me. They also sent a Shadowfiend mid, which I'm not sure exactly is a great matchup against Pudge, but whatever.

Lineups go as follows:

Dire:
- Ursa/Necro safelane
- SF mid
- FV/Tide offlane

Radiant:
- Riki/Razor offlane
- Pudge mid
- PL offlane
- Lone Druid jungle I think.

Game goes pretty much as expected. I get stuck offlane FV with a Tidehunter as support against a solo PL which I managed to solo kill twice, so not too bad. Tide feeds the PL two kills though so... meh. Things all go downhill fast as the enemy Riki and Pudge start ganking my lane hard. Then just another 30 minutes of durdling about as I try to find some farm anywhere I can get it, buying wards myself since no one else is. Slow, painful loss ensues.

Mistakes made by me:
- I didn't tell the Ursa to gtfo of the safelane and let me take it right from the start.
- I went for an early midas which might have been a poor choice if I suspected early aggression and crap team support. Not sure what a stronger midgame build would have been. I went Midas->Treads->Maelstrom and didn't get much farther than that as I had to buy wards and was ganked or had to join team fights non-stop.

So frustrating.
"Oh no, I got you with your pants... on your face... That's not how you wear pants." - Nintu, catching 1 hatch lurks.
Alur
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Denmark3900 Posts
October 20 2013 22:23 GMT
#15867
On October 21 2013 00:06 hooahah wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2013 20:27 Alur wrote:
On October 20 2013 14:27 hooahah wrote:
Vanguard Kunkka

why is this a thing

On February 07 2013 08:14 Sing_Sing wrote:
On February 07 2013 02:41 wreckless wrote:
Sing, can you explain why you build the items you do on kunkka?
Why full vanguard instead of just vit booster? Why do you build so tanky in general?
Why are you the one to build the drums? You say you have no mana all the time, why not something with some mana regen like perseverance or soul ring?

Drums are actually to increase his mana pool for the most part, otherwise it's still a nice team buff. The reason why I always call that I need mana is for the supports with mana boots to save theire cooldown for me. And finally, a full vanguard is really nice to go upfront and tank up for your team so your utility heroes can setup better. (think magnus/rubick/disrupter etc.) The extra blocking percentage and health regen is also very useful for jungle farming without dropping much from your max HP.


Ok, that's...neat to know I guess. Nontheless I disagree with it, my teammate Kunkka didn't use it for jungle farming (because he didn't at all) and we already had a tanky character, we needed Kunkka to do damage not take it...

basically this is another case of people imitating pros without realizing what's the logic behind it

I just thought it was an interesting post to quote here, don't think it's fair to assume he's copying pros though.
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Verrou
Profile Joined July 2013
France193 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-21 04:00:30
October 21 2013 03:15 GMT
#15868
On a stupid losing streak that goes like this:

I get first blood, I get some kills early

Then me and teammates fail

Then ennemies go and make an "epic comeback" all the while people are shouting at each other.

Man, this is brutal :'( every single game today!

EDIT: aaaaand another one!
This is not my dota day y_y
Black^ / n0tail / Misery / Lanm - Nyx/Windrunner/Slardar
sCCrooked
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Korea (South)1306 Posts
October 21 2013 03:22 GMT
#15869
Utterly baffled by the sheer quantities and high percentage of stupid people that infest this games' servers. It seems like every loss is either being paired up with shitty players (idgaf about nationality, shitty people are shitty people no matter where you're from) or its being paired up with carries who have shit farm until 30 minutes mark or a mid who doesn't understand the necessity of ganking the sides or a good beginning until about 15 minutes when we're 10+ kills ahead and then we realize their carries are somehow still ahead of our carries in farming and ours are nowhere near capable of fighting. In the last scenario, our semi-carries inevitably run out of time or ability to 3v5 the entire other team and we're run over because they have items and our carries don't.
Enlightened in an age of anti-intellectualism and quotidian repetitiveness of asinine assumptive thinking. Best lycan guide evar --> "Fixing solo queue all pick one game at a time." ~KwarK-
Kmatt
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1019 Posts
October 21 2013 03:28 GMT
#15870
Grab Sven in RD. Nobody picks a disable save for vacumn, dream coil, and reaper scythe. Woo.

Now I'm stuck vs clock and witch doctor, because golly do I love ministuns, and I never realized what the people who rage over invoker/pudge players feel. I've been playing a lot of Necro lately, stomping mid lane all day erryday. So right off the bat the fact that he comes to dual lane makes me itch a little.

Then he skills heartstopper first and proceeds to stand far enough away that neither of the enemy heroes feel it.
Then he contests every last hit while never once attempting a deny.
Then he uses his pulse only to take 2-3 creeps when they're low hp at the same time.
Then he lets clock walk up to him 3 times for free kills.

So now it's about 8-10 minutes, I've got boots, wand, and a recipe short of drums (poor man's strength carry) when the fight starts in mid for the next 3 1/2 minutes both teams will be fighting, dying, respawning, teleporting, and fighting somemore. Necro has level 4 pulse and a "Press R to kill" button. He proceeds to stand in top lane farming phase boots while a battlefury alchemist is eating us alive.

Then to top it off, our blink-is-too-mainstream puck is screaming at me over mic because I'm not ulting to attack a Linkens QoP while my stun is on cooldown and no one else is around (not that they could help because stuns are a crutch for noobs), and then again when I can't stun an alchemist with higher moverspeed that's out of range of a stun on cooldown at night while a darkseer casually jogs next to me with surge available.

Video games don't make people into axe murderers. People make people into axe murderers. And yes, that was passive-aggressive sarcasm, calm your mantits.
We CAN have nice things
rckY
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany116 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-21 06:22:22
October 21 2013 06:20 GMT
#15871
On October 21 2013 12:15 Verrou wrote:
On a stupid losing streak that goes like this:

I get first blood, I get some kills early

Then me and teammates fail

Then ennemies go and make an "epic comeback" all the while people are shouting at each other.

Man, this is brutal :'( every single game today!

EDIT: aaaaand another one!
This is not my dota day y_y


Dota2 MM is a complete joke. For me the last two weeks were exactly like you described except i didnt feel i failed EVERY game (sure in some its on me aswell). I've a like a 20% winrate from my last 30 games...i mean come on hows that even possible i am supposed to be matched with ppl equal to my mmr which should at this point be disasterous.. i was playing on the edge of high before this shit started and now im probably in cardboard tier... solo queue is just heartbreaking and so frustrating...
Laserist
Profile Joined September 2011
Turkey4269 Posts
October 21 2013 07:25 GMT
#15872
Shadow demon managed to catch every single one of the hooks and finished the game 0-17. I am not even surprised anymore.
“Are you with the Cartel? Because you’re definitely an Angel.”
Exoteric
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia2330 Posts
October 21 2013 09:27 GMT
#15873
i don't even like winning anymore if it means i have to put up with awful players and attitudes throughout the entire game. some people should just get banned outright
hell is other people
SolarFlare93
Profile Joined August 2013
Australia301 Posts
October 21 2013 10:44 GMT
#15874
Why am I not surprised that another AM has disappointed me.
- I babysit his fatass with Abaddon. Chased Lion and Mirana out of lane, got him ALMOST free farm and nabbed a few kills.
- He's off at the stack I made killing the creeps which I'm using to pull. GODDAMN IT WHY?! Those creeps at the tower are DYING. GOD.
- 12 Battle Fury was okay... but it would have been faster if you weren't such a dumbass. It should have been 10 minutes according to my calculations and if you stayed in the damn lane and did not go to my pull camp auto attacking. Also your last hitting was rubbish and you were autoattacking at times for no goddamn reason. You did not know how to keep the lane equilibrium to our tower. You're a dumbass. Go learn how to lane
- So we just killed 2 heroes. NP is knocking on our door and I'm already defending back at base. They have an exposed mid rax... You decide to go all the fucking way back just to defend WHEN I'M ALREADY THERE. Then our team has to retreat and Huskar is running after them.
- I am Abaddon. We have Chen. We have heals. You run away. FML.
- BKBs to solo Roshan. Enemy team discovered it and you run away. Guess what they do next? 1 minute BKB down, bum rush us mid we're pretty fucked. Lose the team fight and GG.

Also the Lich in our game was retarded and bought another mek when Chen bought it first.

A disappointing lost where we outlaned them, outplayed them, til the Anti-Mage screwed us up with stupid tactical decisions. The interesting thing was Chen was awesome. I hate assholes who pick AM and do not have the game sense to play it...
Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8278 Posts
October 21 2013 11:21 GMT
#15875
On October 21 2013 19:44 SolarFlare93 wrote:
Why am I not surprised that another AM has disappointed me.
- I babysit his fatass with Abaddon. Chased Lion and Mirana out of lane, got him ALMOST free farm and nabbed a few kills.
- He's off at the stack I made killing the creeps which I'm using to pull. GODDAMN IT WHY?! Those creeps at the tower are DYING. GOD.
- 12 Battle Fury was okay... but it would have been faster if you weren't such a dumbass. It should have been 10 minutes according to my calculations and if you stayed in the damn lane and did not go to my pull camp auto attacking. Also your last hitting was rubbish and you were autoattacking at times for no goddamn reason. You did not know how to keep the lane equilibrium to our tower. You're a dumbass. Go learn how to lane
- So we just killed 2 heroes. NP is knocking on our door and I'm already defending back at base. They have an exposed mid rax... You decide to go all the fucking way back just to defend WHEN I'M ALREADY THERE. Then our team has to retreat and Huskar is running after them.
- I am Abaddon. We have Chen. We have heals. You run away. FML.
- BKBs to solo Roshan. Enemy team discovered it and you run away. Guess what they do next? 1 minute BKB down, bum rush us mid we're pretty fucked. Lose the team fight and GG.

Also the Lich in our game was retarded and bought another mek when Chen bought it first.

A disappointing lost where we outlaned them, outplayed them, til the Anti-Mage screwed us up with stupid tactical decisions. The interesting thing was Chen was awesome. I hate assholes who pick AM and do not have the game sense to play it...


afaik its actually impossible to get battlefury on am at 10 min on freefarm alone. And I think you might be the first person in history to whine about a 12 min bf to begin with If this is the problems you face in daily dota games, consider yourself extremely lucky
Laserist
Profile Joined September 2011
Turkey4269 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-21 11:39:27
October 21 2013 11:39 GMT
#15876
On October 21 2013 20:21 Excludos wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On October 21 2013 19:44 SolarFlare93 wrote:
Why am I not surprised that another AM has disappointed me.
- I babysit his fatass with Abaddon. Chased Lion and Mirana out of lane, got him ALMOST free farm and nabbed a few kills.
- He's off at the stack I made killing the creeps which I'm using to pull. GODDAMN IT WHY?! Those creeps at the tower are DYING. GOD.
- 12 Battle Fury was okay... but it would have been faster if you weren't such a dumbass. It should have been 10 minutes according to my calculations and if you stayed in the damn lane and did not go to my pull camp auto attacking. Also your last hitting was rubbish and you were autoattacking at times for no goddamn reason. You did not know how to keep the lane equilibrium to our tower. You're a dumbass. Go learn how to lane
- So we just killed 2 heroes. NP is knocking on our door and I'm already defending back at base. They have an exposed mid rax... You decide to go all the fucking way back just to defend WHEN I'M ALREADY THERE. Then our team has to retreat and Huskar is running after them.
- I am Abaddon. We have Chen. We have heals. You run away. FML.
- BKBs to solo Roshan. Enemy team discovered it and you run away. Guess what they do next? 1 minute BKB down, bum rush us mid we're pretty fucked. Lose the team fight and GG.

Also the Lich in our game was retarded and bought another mek when Chen bought it first.

A disappointing lost where we outlaned them, outplayed them, til the Anti-Mage screwed us up with stupid tactical decisions. The interesting thing was Chen was awesome. I hate assholes who pick AM and do not have the game sense to play it...


afaik its actually impossible to get battlefury on am at 10 min on freefarm alone. And I think you might be the first person in history to whine about a 12 min bf to begin with If this is the problems you face in daily dota games, consider yourself extremely lucky


It is possible if you get some early kill/s and/or be extremely greedy with skipping boots etc..
12 min BF is very very good in every situation considering 20+ min BF AM I had yesterday.
“Are you with the Cartel? Because you’re definitely an Angel.”
SolarFlare93
Profile Joined August 2013
Australia301 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-21 11:55:09
October 21 2013 11:52 GMT
#15877
On October 21 2013 20:21 Excludos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2013 19:44 SolarFlare93 wrote:
Why am I not surprised that another AM has disappointed me.
- I babysit his fatass with Abaddon. Chased Lion and Mirana out of lane, got him ALMOST free farm and nabbed a few kills.
- He's off at the stack I made killing the creeps which I'm using to pull. GODDAMN IT WHY?! Those creeps at the tower are DYING. GOD.
- 12 Battle Fury was okay... but it would have been faster if you weren't such a dumbass. It should have been 10 minutes according to my calculations and if you stayed in the damn lane and did not go to my pull camp auto attacking. Also your last hitting was rubbish and you were autoattacking at times for no goddamn reason. You did not know how to keep the lane equilibrium to our tower. You're a dumbass. Go learn how to lane
- So we just killed 2 heroes. NP is knocking on our door and I'm already defending back at base. They have an exposed mid rax... You decide to go all the fucking way back just to defend WHEN I'M ALREADY THERE. Then our team has to retreat and Huskar is running after them.
- I am Abaddon. We have Chen. We have heals. You run away. FML.
- BKBs to solo Roshan. Enemy team discovered it and you run away. Guess what they do next? 1 minute BKB down, bum rush us mid we're pretty fucked. Lose the team fight and GG.

Also the Lich in our game was retarded and bought another mek when Chen bought it first.

A disappointing lost where we outlaned them, outplayed them, til the Anti-Mage screwed us up with stupid tactical decisions. The interesting thing was Chen was awesome. I hate assholes who pick AM and do not have the game sense to play it...


afaik its actually impossible to get battlefury on am at 10 min on freefarm alone. And I think you might be the first person in history to whine about a 12 min bf to begin with If this is the problems you face in daily dota games, consider yourself extremely lucky


Ummm we got him 2 assists and a kill early game... It would have been a 10 minute battle fury if he didn't miss a few waves of last hits... I'm just mad atm because he screwed up tactically and things could have been quicker given the amount of babysitting Chen and I were doing... Also maybe if you read what I wrote as my first point you would not have written the impossibility part.
dronescout
Profile Joined March 2010
Iceland246 Posts
October 21 2013 11:57 GMT
#15878
Consider yourself lucky mon, I got an AM in my game who built Vanguard with his freefarm then went on to build Phase Boots and Sange & Yasha, I wasn't very happy about that.
I will destroy everyone in 2017
Ricjames
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Czech Republic1047 Posts
October 21 2013 12:50 GMT
#15879
The state of public games is getting ridiculous. You can't even say anything, without the "fuck you noob" reaction.
However i started to queue only for random draft or all random (for fun) games. I gotta say the overall quality of my games in random draft is much higher than all pick games.

Also seriously screw people who take captain in CD or CM and have absolutely no idea what are they doing. When i was beginner i hated captains who didn't discuss the picks with the rest of the team. Now i absolutely hate when the captain listen to some random noob who says: pick sniper or zeus for me. CM should be completely decided by the captain according to his intention and lanes should be set by him.
Brood War is the best RTS that has ever been created.
Eriksen
Profile Joined December 2012
Micronesia720 Posts
October 21 2013 13:51 GMT
#15880
I can't play this game anymore. I have to self-QQ, the more I play the more I find myself being a useless person as much as I'm in real life.

Why.
Whether it has ended with a happy ending or sad, I never was an important thing to you.
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