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Please remember that while this thread is for QQ and venting about the game, racism is not tolerated here on LD.
Alur
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Denmark3900 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-23 14:00:55
August 23 2013 14:00 GMT
#14001
On August 23 2013 22:23 Derrida wrote:
so fucking sick of being a support player. i have shitload of dota and hon experience but new to dota2 with 40 wins, and i am soooo sick of 4 carry (1 clueless riki for sure every game) teams. i don't enjoy playing carry and farming 45 minutes pve, i like warding and ganking and sacrificing myself to save carries etc. I need to reach higher MMR somehow, no idea how to do it. sooo depressed.

I don't know what your rating is, so I can't say how big a change for you this would be. But I have several accounts in Very High, you can have one if you'd like.
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StoRm_res
Profile Joined March 2011
Switzerland891 Posts
August 23 2013 14:00 GMT
#14002
On August 23 2013 22:23 Derrida wrote:
so fucking sick of being a support player. i have shitload of dota and hon experience but new to dota2 with 40 wins, and i am soooo sick of 4 carry (1 clueless riki for sure every game) teams. i don't enjoy playing carry and farming 45 minutes pve, i like warding and ganking and sacrificing myself to save carries etc. I need to reach higher MMR somehow, no idea how to do it. sooo depressed.

Just pick a snowballing hero and go mid for a few games until you reach a higher mmr. With your experience you should easily be able to dominate even if you're not used to playing that role.
Derrida
Profile Joined March 2011
2885 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-23 14:18:22
August 23 2013 14:08 GMT
#14003
On August 23 2013 23:00 Alur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2013 22:23 Derrida wrote:
so fucking sick of being a support player. i have shitload of dota and hon experience but new to dota2 with 40 wins, and i am soooo sick of 4 carry (1 clueless riki for sure every game) teams. i don't enjoy playing carry and farming 45 minutes pve, i like warding and ganking and sacrificing myself to save carries etc. I need to reach higher MMR somehow, no idea how to do it. sooo depressed.

I don't know what your rating is, so I can't say how big a change for you this would be. But I have several accounts in Very High, you can have one if you'd like.


thanks for the awesome help effort, but I'd rather reach high MMR myself (if i can). are there any chatrooms for finding decent people maybe?
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icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19350 Posts
August 23 2013 14:08 GMT
#14004
what server do you play on?
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Derrida
Profile Joined March 2011
2885 Posts
August 23 2013 14:18 GMT
#14005
mostly EUW, I try to evade certain east european country players, no offense to anyone. bad personal experiences.
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HollowLord
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3862 Posts
August 23 2013 14:35 GMT
#14006
On August 23 2013 18:38 -Celestial- wrote:
Still curious why people think Abaddon is a carry. Maybe the slow/shield/ult setup confuses people or the fact he looks a little like CK (who can carry).


It's the sword. Sword = Carry.
dota 2 stream #noskill #feed #noob twitch.tv/dmcredgrave
Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
August 23 2013 14:44 GMT
#14007
On August 23 2013 23:35 HollowLord wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2013 18:38 -Celestial- wrote:
Still curious why people think Abaddon is a carry. Maybe the slow/shield/ult setup confuses people or the fact he looks a little like CK (who can carry).


It's the sword. Sword = Carry.

I was once told I was an idiot who knows nothing about dota because I said abaddon wasn't a carry.

QQ: I just lost a straight up game and have nothing to blame but being outplayed, I want an excuse.
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Eriksen
Profile Joined December 2012
Micronesia720 Posts
August 23 2013 14:45 GMT
#14008
On August 23 2013 23:08 Derrida wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2013 23:00 Alur wrote:
On August 23 2013 22:23 Derrida wrote:
so fucking sick of being a support player. i have shitload of dota and hon experience but new to dota2 with 40 wins, and i am soooo sick of 4 carry (1 clueless riki for sure every game) teams. i don't enjoy playing carry and farming 45 minutes pve, i like warding and ganking and sacrificing myself to save carries etc. I need to reach higher MMR somehow, no idea how to do it. sooo depressed.

I don't know what your rating is, so I can't say how big a change for you this would be. But I have several accounts in Very High, you can have one if you'd like.


thanks for the awesome help effort, but I'd rather reach high MMR myself (if i can). are there any chatrooms for finding decent people maybe?


The TL.net guild chat is always there to help you play and stuff. Anyway, if you really want to rack up your rating to the Very High rapidly / easily, you shall try the 5-stack doto mode. The enemies should be harder, but on the other hand it's also easier for you when you can coordinate well.
Whether it has ended with a happy ending or sad, I never was an important thing to you.
willstertben
Profile Joined May 2013
427 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-23 14:46:17
August 23 2013 14:46 GMT
#14009
On August 23 2013 23:18 Derrida wrote:
I try to evade certain east european country players


you cant.
HollowLord
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3862 Posts
August 23 2013 15:07 GMT
#14010
On August 23 2013 23:44 Targe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2013 23:35 HollowLord wrote:
On August 23 2013 18:38 -Celestial- wrote:
Still curious why people think Abaddon is a carry. Maybe the slow/shield/ult setup confuses people or the fact he looks a little like CK (who can carry).


It's the sword. Sword = Carry.

I was once told I was an idiot who knows nothing about dota because I said abaddon wasn't a carry.

QQ: I just lost a straight up game and have nothing to blame but being outplayed, I want an excuse.


Did they split push you? You can call them Rat Dota TI3 tryhard bullshitters.
dota 2 stream #noskill #feed #noob twitch.tv/dmcredgrave
EmilA
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark4618 Posts
August 23 2013 15:08 GMT
#14011
On August 23 2013 23:46 willstertben wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2013 23:18 Derrida wrote:
I try to evade certain east european country players


you cant.


You can still dodge with no punishment at pickscreen

How to reach top MMR? Mid with a FOTM snowball mid hero. Best for the purpose is TA imo - only deviate when vs Bat/OD/Huskar mid.
http://dotabuff.com/players/122305951 playing other games
SKYFISH_
Profile Joined April 2011
Bulgaria990 Posts
August 23 2013 15:23 GMT
#14012
On August 24 2013 00:08 EmilA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2013 23:46 willstertben wrote:
On August 23 2013 23:18 Derrida wrote:
I try to evade certain east european country players


you cant.


You can still dodge with no punishment at pickscreen

How to reach top MMR? Mid with a FOTM snowball mid hero. Best for the purpose is TA imo - only deviate when vs Bat/OD/Huskar mid.


you'll have to dodge 99% of the games though
considering how popular dota is in cis countries there is simply no escape.

In Soviet Terranistan you rush the Zerg
TRAP[yoo]
Profile Joined December 2009
Hungary6026 Posts
August 23 2013 15:32 GMT
#14013
u thought people in the tl guild would be nice people to play with or against but no still the same trashtalking and afking -.-
FTD
Gentso
Profile Joined July 2010
United States2218 Posts
August 23 2013 15:49 GMT
#14014
Anyone else prefer picking position 4 or 5 heroes in Matchmaking? I hate playing carries in solo queue because it gets very hard to farm if the rest of the team is stuck in "League Mindset." Nothing better than your entire team hiding/farming in the jungle because they don't know what to do and you know if you go to a lane for some last hits the enemy team will gank you because you're the only thing they see on the map. It's so hard to get people to push, gank, or make plays nowadays.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
August 23 2013 15:53 GMT
#14015
I swear I am going to start picking Riki to prevent other players from having him. What part of “They have a sentry down” do you not understand? Also, buy items with HP, damn it. It doesn’t matter how you do if you get nuked in 2 shots.

Idiot Riki is my least favorite player.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Paperplane
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands1823 Posts
August 23 2013 15:55 GMT
#14016
Can people please not ping 2 times per second for the entire game? Thanks
Nocticate
Profile Joined May 2013
Vatican City State2902 Posts
August 23 2013 16:04 GMT
#14017
On August 23 2013 03:45 HollowLord wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2013 03:39 Nocticate wrote:
On August 23 2013 03:07 HollowLord wrote:
Abaddon's ult is stupid. You basically have to have your entire team back off and run around in circles for five seconds hoping not to deal damage.

Did you have a stun on me? Well I hope it wasn't a long cooldown. Got blademail? Delicious! AoE damage spells focused on my team mates? Haha, hilarious. Oh, is that a tower? Wonderful, let me go fully heal, hope I have enough mana to proc my ult. Oh wait, I don't need that stuff, let me go back to spamming my shield. Hope you can kill me in the next forty seconds!


remind me
what does he do besides being annoying? kills don't have any inherent weight. a kill on a useless target is a waste of mana and time. he has no disables and little damage. kill the rest of his team first. then you can take your time killing him. it's only idiots who will focus him because hurr durr must get kills on everyone all the time. he's actually a worse skeleton king in that skeleton king actually has a stun and does damage and heals to full mana and health and isn't countered by big burst damage like Laguna Blade.


What does he do? Carries the mek, pipe, or other aura items? Runs around putting his debuff on everyone to give the carries more attack speed? Shields and heals vulnerable targets? By level 7 he can make a lane extremely difficult to gank by keeping the carry healed and shielded and having a safe escape of his own, not to mention the ridiculously low cooldown of 60 seconds at level 1.

In a team fight, who do you focus first? Do you try to burst down the dragon knight with BKB? No, you kill the dazzle who's going to grave his ass. Abaddon can survive the entire team fight, he's almost always the last to die because regardless of whether or not you're trying not to murder him he's going to gain a significant amount of health with his ult thanks to AoE

If your idea of a hero's usefulness is: moar damage moar stun = gewd, then feel free to let Abaddon buff his entire team without any risk of harm while you all focus Sven

once he pops mek and pipe he literally doesn't have a purpose. he has no flash farming ability, and his Curse of Avernus is piss-poor compared to something even like Venge's HoT and command aura. he provides approximately 450 effective HP to other heroes each time he uses coil and shield, net gain of 325 all in all because of the health cost. that's every ~6 seconds. that's assuming at least level 9 to max them both since CoA is a shitty skill to max. they're very short ranged and if you have your carry permanently parked at abbadon's side you're losing the game since that means less experience for your carry and abbadon isn't stacking and pulling which he needs to do almost constantly in order to shore up his atrocious farm pace.
he's somewhat similar to undying in that he tries to force you to focus him but it's fairly hard to focus him.
this is countermanded by the fact that he gets to put out a total of another 450 health after borrowed time and then he says goodbye because he won't survive until his cooldowns are back up.
it's not that he is a bad hero it's that he simply doesn't really have any place in a trilane. he's fine in dual lanes but he will simply be out-aggressed and fairly useless in tri vs. tri which is an incredibly important consideration right now. he's also bad at killing offlaners and bad at pushing towers. at least undying has the advantage of being a trilane vs. trilane monster. he just doesn't have anything that he really excels at. isolating him from a fight isn't difficult and he offers nothing without his team in close proximity.
Chairman Mao tells us imperialist Dota is a paper tiger
HollowLord
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3862 Posts
August 23 2013 16:11 GMT
#14018
On August 24 2013 00:53 Plansix wrote:
I swear I am going to start picking Riki to prevent other players from having him.


My friend and I developed a similar strategy where one of us instapicks Pudge in every single game we play.
dota 2 stream #noskill #feed #noob twitch.tv/dmcredgrave
SKYFISH_
Profile Joined April 2011
Bulgaria990 Posts
August 23 2013 16:16 GMT
#14019
2 kill steals with ult
him+lich v slardar lane
20 minute BF

best magina ever
im pretty sure he had QB too


rest of the team is ass-retarded as well
mid dagon furi with the pro ks shit
offlane alch with greevils greed

suddenly - everyone is farming the jungle
all in all, -4 kills +2deaths that could've been prevented should those tards saved their nukes and didnt blow them on someone who was 50hp and about to get hit by a projectile.

these are the type of games that are most annoying to play, seriously


In Soviet Terranistan you rush the Zerg
hooahah
Profile Joined October 2011
3752 Posts
August 23 2013 16:20 GMT
#14020
On August 23 2013 22:23 Derrida wrote:
so fucking sick of being a support player. i have shitload of dota and hon experience but new to dota2 with 40 wins, and i am soooo sick of 4 carry (1 clueless riki for sure every game) teams. i don't enjoy playing carry and farming 45 minutes pve, i like warding and ganking and sacrificing myself to save carries etc. I need to reach higher MMR somehow, no idea how to do it. sooo depressed.


gank like a motherfucker

people in low MMR rarely ever buy wards and there's an even lower chance of them looking at the minimap to see you coming. Just gank people rapidly like you're santa claus and they're naughty children.
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