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Please remember that while this thread is for QQ and venting about the game, racism is not tolerated here on LD.
hooahah
Profile Joined October 2011
3752 Posts
August 01 2013 17:04 GMT
#13381
I'm not a good player. I know that. Sometimes I fuck up big time, sometimes I miss really easy last hits, I can't land a hook with pudge to save my life, miss skillshots etc

but sometimes matchmaking sets you up with people who are just not in your level. Or are way above your skill level. and if I wanna QQ about it in a QQ topic, I'm gonna QQ about it.
Zexion
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Sweden971 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-01 20:19:44
August 01 2013 20:14 GMT
#13382
Enemy team picks Lion, CM and PL trilane against me and my brother who are ES and disruptor and doing quite well considering the circumstances. Our morph is the worst farmer ever, but Beastmaster on his lane is decent. Medusa loses mid against SK. He gets fast blink AND bkb so I can't glimpse him when he uses epicenter. We tell them that we need to push and finish before PL gets fat. OK, what happens? Morph goes farming all the time and refuses to push, tells me to shut up because in his world a farmed PL is nothing to worry about. Dusa thinks that his ulti will take care of everything. We do manage to get a lot of towers, but it's not enough. PL gets farmed of course and then proceed to rape us all along with SK.

Why are people so hell-bent on farming items that will disappear after the game is over anyway? During a bit more than one week, I've had a losing streak of 8 games, then won 2, only to get back into another losing streak of 5, win 2 again and now I've lost 4 games in a row because of I get matched with all kinds of idiots. And when a games goes well and you get matched with decent people? Then there's a leaver in the enemy team early on so stats won't be recorded. I LOVE DOTA SO MUCH RIGHT NOW.
xAdra
Profile Joined July 2012
Singapore1858 Posts
August 01 2013 21:30 GMT
#13383
Isn't spiritbreaker supposed to be a shit-tier hero? Why do I find it so hopelessly imba, especially as a support where he'd always just go straight for me? I really, really, really hate it when he comes charging at me and does a solo perma-lock on me. Also, why is he 2nd most picked this month with 57% winrate? I really want icefrog to destroy that hero.
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-01 21:31:47
August 01 2013 21:31 GMT
#13384
spirit breaker hasnt been shit tier for a long time now.
hes gotten nothing but huge buffs quite a few patches in a row.
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
suicideyear
Profile Joined December 2012
Ivory Coast3016 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-01 21:38:07
August 01 2013 21:34 GMT
#13385
warlock is fucking stupid
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GraFx
Profile Joined May 2010
United States429 Posts
August 01 2013 21:40 GMT
#13386
3 days and I can't get a 5 man team of people who speak English unless I 5 stack. What is this shit? It feels like it's gotten so much worse over the past 2 weeks or so.
GraFx
Profile Joined May 2010
United States429 Posts
August 01 2013 21:41 GMT
#13387
Dodged 4 games in a row due to Peru, Trinidad & Tobago, Brazil, Ecuador. US East - Home of the rest of the world.
xAdra
Profile Joined July 2012
Singapore1858 Posts
August 01 2013 22:25 GMT
#13388
On August 02 2013 06:31 PassiveAce wrote:
spirit breaker hasnt been shit tier for a long time now.
hes gotten nothing but huge buffs quite a few patches in a row.

Yeah, just checked his changelog, it's insane. This really needs to be stopped, from what I know sb has little use in tournaments aside from a niche pick as a naix bomb delivery hero, but he's rage-inducing in pub games.
SKYFISH_
Profile Joined April 2011
Bulgaria990 Posts
August 01 2013 22:44 GMT
#13389
On August 01 2013 23:10 Comeh wrote:
I feel like this should be posted here, just for fun:
http://dotametrics.wordpress.com/2013/07/31/the-greatest-matchmaking-complaint-ever/

Show nested quote +
if you find yourself in games that tend to be stomps one way or the other, perhaps the culprit is you. You could actually be right that matchmaking is giving matches that are below your mechanical skill level because you so regularly throw winnable games at the first sign of adversity that you actively lower your MMR from where it would be otherwise. After all, it’s not matchmaking’s responsibility to determine that you’re a giant baby and coddle you accordingly. It just sees you as a terrible player who happens to get lucky, and maybe that’s not really too far from the truth.


<3

Heh, there is some truth to whats written here, I cant deny.The thing is, when you see 3-13 on the scoreboard@ 8 minutes you really lose interest in trying to win.The game could be winnable but you have to hope that there are players on the enemy team who are just as prone to feeding as some of the players on your team.


Also, in my experience, when I get matched with a 4 man stack the support players (WD in this case) are usually the biggest retards who have ever used a PC for video games.
Hands down, from having zero idea how and when to ward ( I swear to god stop warding behind the M camp on the radiant side you dumb fucks, this is a dire offlane wardspot, put it above the fucking runespot for better vision) to being downright useless in a trilane which THEY organized - hey fifth guy, lets trilane EXDEE.
Yeah dudes, lets trilane.How about your dumb idiots stop doing single pulls, stop afking in the jungle doing jackshit and actually start helping to zone out the enemy offlaner/s during the first couple of waves?Maybe even get some kills.

Nooope, we trilane bro, you go solo the enemy offlaner/s , we'll just dick around in the jungle, just like in those pro gayums we saw EXDEEEEE.

In Soviet Terranistan you rush the Zerg
Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
August 01 2013 23:12 GMT
#13390
On August 02 2013 01:05 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2013 01:03 Targe wrote:
On August 01 2013 23:34 Comeh wrote:
On August 01 2013 23:24 ch33psh33p wrote:
On August 01 2013 23:17 _vk_ wrote:
On August 01 2013 23:10 Comeh wrote:
I feel like this should be posted here, just for fun:
http://dotametrics.wordpress.com/2013/07/31/the-greatest-matchmaking-complaint-ever/

if you find yourself in games that tend to be stomps one way or the other, perhaps the culprit is you. You could actually be right that matchmaking is giving matches that are below your mechanical skill level because you so regularly throw winnable games at the first sign of adversity that you actively lower your MMR from where it would be otherwise. After all, it’s not matchmaking’s responsibility to determine that you’re a giant baby and coddle you accordingly. It just sees you as a terrible player who happens to get lucky, and maybe that’s not really too far from the truth.


<3


This has nothing to do with the latest complaints that are based aroung the fact that the skill gap requirements have been relaxed.

edit: And unfortunately, these complaints are now gonna get dismissed exactly the way complaints about the comm ban system were... Before someone managed to prove that it mutes you if you get reported in just two games over a 48 hour period. (Which is obviously insane.)


This is exactly what it is. Even now, when the system is CLEARLY broken, people will come up with all sorts of excuses otherwise.

Then someone provides physical mathematical evidence, and all of a sudden these deniers dissappear. EXACTLY what happened with comm bans, everyitme somebody complained, a slwe of people would just go, YOU DESERVED IT.

Oh wait, it was broken and automated beyond shit. Where are those deniers now?

I'm not saying that there isn't a problem. I just think its greatly over emphasized - I have yet to experience half as bad as results as other people. I mean, I could just be lucky, but a good deal of this is confirmation bias.


I literally just had a game where a luna on my team went 0-10 by 15 minutes.

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Edit: Oh and on the other hand, I also get players both on my team and the other team who are highly competent at Dota 2.

MM is weird.

Or they could be drunk, high or making out with their girlfriend? I mean, there are plenty of reasons to be terrible that is not MM. My last hitting is really bad if I haven't eaten in a while, but I don't think the MM takes that into account.


I totally understand this but surely I'm not as good as someone who dies nearly as many times as they've been alive minute wise.
11/5/14 CATACLYSM | The South West's worst Falco main
suicideyear
Profile Joined December 2012
Ivory Coast3016 Posts
August 02 2013 03:48 GMT
#13391
my record is 18-18, i just started playing recently
guy on my team has a record of 454 - 457
guy on the other team has a record of 581 - 599

what in the world
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Thienan567
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States670 Posts
August 02 2013 04:12 GMT
#13392
Team bitches at me for not having sound when I'm 1-2-4 ck and slark is over there feeding 1-7-0. Like what. I buy dust when no one wants to to deal with nyx and team bitches at me? wat

And then later enemy am afks AND other team tells us about it and they still unpause. 40 mins in mirana somehow has only deso and yasha. Whaaaat I'm pretty sure you can afford a lot more than deso yasha as mirana when ur 6-6 at 40 min.

Think this team just sux. Like just straight up sucks. Bad attitude. No skill.
SXGCoil
Profile Joined February 2012
United States341 Posts
August 02 2013 06:43 GMT
#13393
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This fucking nyx skilled lv1 spiked carapace for some god forsaken reason and bought a null and a set of tango for starting gold. He was the typical frat boy failure that has "faggot" and "gay" in his top 3 words. Proceeds to feed while rushing dagon ofc. I suggest blink and he says "go play on navi fag"

why do I buy wards for these people.
xAdra
Profile Joined July 2012
Singapore1858 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-02 09:13:23
August 02 2013 09:08 GMT
#13394
Drow player who feeds 0-6 to luna in the early game->I (as chen) go all around hte map with 3 creeps trying to make plays and ganks->manages to comeback in the mid game with SICK AUTOATTACKS with just treads->feels extremely valuable and decides to lead the team->rambos in after I (as chen) tell him to not rush so quickly->we lose game due to drow having no buyback for defence -> "team of fkn noobs"

Seriously, I have absolutely zero respect for noobs who pick ez drow, feed in the early game, get free kills with their high agi in the midgame and blame the team for not supporting him when the team loses in the lategame.

EDIT: was buying wards, smoke, crow, dust, sentries for them the whole game, and still managed a 20 minute meka and 30 minute arcane. I wish that for just one game I didn't have to 1-protect-4.
peidongyang
Profile Joined January 2009
Canada2084 Posts
August 02 2013 10:16 GMT
#13395
9 game losing streak, drows with hats with 1800+ kills in games where I have like 450 games, at least it finally ended when our midas first tidehunter magically got farmed enough and won us some fights at the expense of a pgg enigma, offlane sniper (idk why they put him there, we was pretty sad about it), and a bounty who was too rich and bought random items.

Oh well
the throws never bothered me anyway
Belisarius
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia6233 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-02 12:17:41
August 02 2013 10:55 GMT
#13396
Once again, I fall victim to the Law of Enemy NPs.

Np on my team?
Cliff jungle, 20-minute midas. Never intentionally encounters an enemy until they've destroyed us and taken over our jungle.

NP on enemy team?
Appears to be farming a jungle in some alternate dimension, which renders him impossible to find and grants him 3x the gold of normal creeps. Still joins every gank. Has midas shadowblade daedalus sheep by 30 minutes.
Yoshi-
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany10227 Posts
August 02 2013 12:15 GMT
#13397
Why the fuck do people get bfury on tuskar, this is dumber than bh or medusa with bfury
Daray
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
6006 Posts
August 02 2013 12:48 GMT
#13398
On August 02 2013 21:15 Yoshi- wrote:
Why the fuck do people get bfury on tuskar, this is dumber than bh or medusa with bfury


Cleave punch ldo!
peidongyang
Profile Joined January 2009
Canada2084 Posts
August 02 2013 13:00 GMT
#13399
On August 02 2013 21:15 Yoshi- wrote:
Why the fuck do people get bfury on tuskar, this is dumber than bh or medusa with bfury

Might be one of the default suggested items like bf in by, or Dagon on wd...

Stupid stuff like that
the throws never bothered me anyway
Talron
Profile Joined September 2012
Germany7651 Posts
August 02 2013 14:15 GMT
#13400
Losing, when we're playing 5v4 in our favor, while the enemy team even has PL, Morph and Weaver. Be behind in kills by 12 at the 20 minute mark. Fuck this shit.
EHOME 2010 never forget EHOME.GIGABYTE.AAA B-God In BurNing we trust BurNing your soul DK 2011-2014
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