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On July 16 2013 02:18 Excludos wrote:Show nested quote +On July 16 2013 02:16 Fumanchu wrote:Are you saying it's bad to place a ward there? 'Cause it stops the neutrals from spawning and prevents bot lane from pulling. It's a good place to put a ward at the beginning of the game. Unless the other team doesn't know how to pull. That ward belongs to the radiant side, who's suppose to the pullers. They've probably plumped it down there to deny another ward, only to realize that their own ward is now blocking the same camp, and you can't kill it yourself..
Ya just took another look, my bad
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Very Smart from Valve Removing the Solo Queue Tab and hiding it in the Find Match Options
Waiting 10 mins For a match is FUN
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On July 16 2013 02:18 Excludos wrote:Show nested quote +On July 16 2013 02:16 Fumanchu wrote:Are you saying it's bad to place a ward there? 'Cause it stops the neutrals from spawning and prevents bot lane from pulling. It's a good place to put a ward at the beginning of the game. Unless the other team doesn't know how to pull. That ward belongs to the radiant side, who's suppose to the pullers. They've probably plumped it down there to deny another ward, only to realize that their own ward is now blocking the same camp, and you can't kill it yourself..
I've had people with 800+ games believe that camp spawning is based on vision. Plunks a sentry directly bottom of the pull camp and yells in voice chat "what the fuck it shouldn't block it doesn't see the camp.
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On July 16 2013 02:29 pyro19 wrote:
Very Smart from Valve Removing the Solo Queue Tab and hiding it in the Find Match Options
Waiting 10 mins For a match is FUN
how is this any different from having the solo queue seperate?
takes forever either way.
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On July 16 2013 02:15 KlaCkoN wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2013 15:07 Kmatt wrote:On July 15 2013 14:11 Acritter wrote:On July 15 2013 13:46 Cool Cat wrote:
why is there a no shuriken bh in my game Because it costs mana, duh! Jinada/Stats BH is the new meta. Well you get shuriken eventually, just not a first priority. I delay it as long as I can, maybe getting one level if we really need it for some reason. Reminds me of a game where I got shoved onto ward support for a BH and his sven buddy. BH maxed shuriken while getting treads and 5 wraith bands. Sven kept assuring me he knew what he was doing, which as much as I wanted to belive, he was MASSING WRAITH BANDS AND MAXING SHURIKEN AS A SOLO OFFLANE. 2 things I can't stand-people who blindly max their 1st skill and carries (other than Viper or Drow, maybe) who fill their inventory with Wraith bands. 40 minutes in he's 4/2/7. Tried to be all "told you so" when he showed off his 4 kills. I thought that maxing shuriken as solo offlane BH was the right way to play him? You will be way behind on levels until after a few team fights so acting as a track and shuriken bot is your only way to contribute without just getting blown up until you've caught up.
It is the right way to play him. The damage from Jinada just isn't comparable early game. Not sure what this guy is smoking.
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On July 16 2013 02:15 KlaCkoN wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2013 15:07 Kmatt wrote:On July 15 2013 14:11 Acritter wrote:On July 15 2013 13:46 Cool Cat wrote:
why is there a no shuriken bh in my game Because it costs mana, duh! Jinada/Stats BH is the new meta. Well you get shuriken eventually, just not a first priority. I delay it as long as I can, maybe getting one level if we really need it for some reason. Reminds me of a game where I got shoved onto ward support for a BH and his sven buddy. BH maxed shuriken while getting treads and 5 wraith bands. Sven kept assuring me he knew what he was doing, which as much as I wanted to belive, he was MASSING WRAITH BANDS AND MAXING SHURIKEN AS A SOLO OFFLANE. 2 things I can't stand-people who blindly max their 1st skill and carries (other than Viper or Drow, maybe) who fill their inventory with Wraith bands. 40 minutes in he's 4/2/7. Tried to be all "told you so" when he showed off his 4 kills. I thought that maxing shuriken as solo offlane BH was the right way to play him? You will be way behind on levels until after a few team fights so acting as a track and shuriken bot is your only way to contribute without just getting blown up until you've caught up.
It depends on the lane I think. I'm pretty sure if you have an easier lane where you're getting ok farm / some items it's worth getting points in jinada for the damage and potential lane harass. If I'm facing a strong safelane that zones me out really well then I take shuriken first for the reasons you mentioned.
In any case it's stupid not to have at least one point in toss from the start, I don't see any reason you wouldn't
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On July 16 2013 02:38 PassiveAce wrote:Show nested quote +On July 16 2013 02:29 pyro19 wrote:
Very Smart from Valve Removing the Solo Queue Tab and hiding it in the Find Match Options
Waiting 10 mins For a match is FUN how is this any different from having the solo queue seperate? takes forever either way.
No It doesn't , Not on SEA for me
It took usually 3-4 Minutes..The same as finding a Regular Match..Now it finds 1 at about 9-10 minute mark
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On July 16 2013 02:38 PassiveAce wrote:Show nested quote +On July 16 2013 02:29 pyro19 wrote:
Very Smart from Valve Removing the Solo Queue Tab and hiding it in the Find Match Options
Waiting 10 mins For a match is FUN how is this any different from having the solo queue seperate? takes forever either way.
For me it was pretty similar to "normal" queue actually. I'd guess at higher levels of MMR there are just way less people who play on their own.
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On July 16 2013 02:19 Fumanchu wrote:Show nested quote +On July 16 2013 02:18 Excludos wrote:On July 16 2013 02:16 Fumanchu wrote:Are you saying it's bad to place a ward there? 'Cause it stops the neutrals from spawning and prevents bot lane from pulling. It's a good place to put a ward at the beginning of the game. Unless the other team doesn't know how to pull. That ward belongs to the radiant side, who's suppose to the pullers. They've probably plumped it down there to deny another ward, only to realize that their own ward is now blocking the same camp, and you can't kill it yourself.. Ya just took another look, my bad
Not only it blocked the camp, i highlight the time aswell because the obs already expired by that moment.
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So, we have like the perfect splitpushing match. We have AM and Brood [me] side and the enemy team didn't have a single spammable aoe spell to clear creepwaves quickly - finally after 40 minutes I managed to get bottom lane rax. Regardless we lost after 60 minutes. I'd like to erase this memory from my head and this game from Dota history, that's how awkward it was.
This is no compliant about my teammates, but just about the game itself being a major torture for me, my teammates and probably even my enemies, who admitetly did a good job defending against my Brood, which is probably one of the worst in the world, while they didn't actually had any way fo dealing with so many creeps. I just wish it never happened.
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Played 3 games today. First game went ok.
Second game was really enjoyable till our naga decided to fuck everything up with her ult. Proceeds by taking my items from the courier and dropping them at the enemy team... Did i mention that the three stack which she was part of horribly fed the other team. bg
Next game, someone randoms Doom and calls forest. Me and my friend were ok with that. Then bam! someone picked Natures Prophet and starts to jungle. So we let doom mid because we thought we can handle one 'pants on head' retard. unfortunately our slark just had a way of going in alone and feeding the other team. Prophet starts complaining about the team being noob (while going 1-17). Slarks beginning to shout in russian. I'm not biased but I need to mention that all these players were russians who queued on EU west. I need more reports for this.
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On July 16 2013 04:08 Ratch! wrote:Show nested quote +On July 16 2013 02:19 Fumanchu wrote:On July 16 2013 02:18 Excludos wrote:On July 16 2013 02:16 Fumanchu wrote:Are you saying it's bad to place a ward there? 'Cause it stops the neutrals from spawning and prevents bot lane from pulling. It's a good place to put a ward at the beginning of the game. Unless the other team doesn't know how to pull. That ward belongs to the radiant side, who's suppose to the pullers. They've probably plumped it down there to deny another ward, only to realize that their own ward is now blocking the same camp, and you can't kill it yourself.. Ya just took another look, my bad Not only it blocked the camp, i highlight the time aswell because the obs already expired by that moment.
Yesterday I had a Sven on my team buy and place an observer ward in my pull camp just because he was pissed at me for not letting him lane with his buddy even though them laning togheter obviously would have made the game harder then necessary for the rest of us.
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On July 16 2013 06:39 BigO wrote:Show nested quote +On July 16 2013 04:08 Ratch! wrote:On July 16 2013 02:19 Fumanchu wrote:On July 16 2013 02:18 Excludos wrote:On July 16 2013 02:16 Fumanchu wrote:Are you saying it's bad to place a ward there? 'Cause it stops the neutrals from spawning and prevents bot lane from pulling. It's a good place to put a ward at the beginning of the game. Unless the other team doesn't know how to pull. That ward belongs to the radiant side, who's suppose to the pullers. They've probably plumped it down there to deny another ward, only to realize that their own ward is now blocking the same camp, and you can't kill it yourself.. Ya just took another look, my bad Not only it blocked the camp, i highlight the time aswell because the obs already expired by that moment. Yesterday I had a Sven on my team buy and place an observer ward in my pull camp just because he was pissed at me for not letting him lane with his buddy even though them laning togheter obviously would have made the game harder then necessary for the rest of us.
You don't want to know how many times I warded our camp just to pevent the jungler from single pulling
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I have ~250 wins.
I get matched against people with 1300+ wins...
Yes, sure he was in a stack with some guy who had 230 wins... but still... nothing on my team even remotely balancing that out (700 was the highest, rest ~300).
Other game:
Alchemist on my team decides to go Midas. Then Battlefury. 30min are now over, the enemy team is pushing hard. Now a Mjölnir. 50min are now over, he completes his BKB.
"Noob team didnt give me space to farm"....
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I'm getting sick of people insta calling mid and then feeding 0-10 to heroes like SF, QOP , etc.
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On July 16 2013 08:21 TheEmulator wrote:
I'm getting sick of people insta calling mid and then feeding 0-10 to heroes like SF, QOP , etc.
I feel for ya.
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On July 16 2013 02:29 pyro19 wrote:
Very Smart from Valve Removing the Solo Queue Tab and hiding it in the Find Match Options
Waiting 10 mins For a match is FUN
please read changelogs
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On July 16 2013 08:26 DoNotDisturb wrote:Show nested quote +On July 16 2013 02:29 pyro19 wrote:
Very Smart from Valve Removing the Solo Queue Tab and hiding it in the Find Match Options
Waiting 10 mins For a match is FUN please read changelogs
...you realise that the post clearly indicates that he does know where it is, right?
The problem is that nobody else reads the change logs, and an enormous chunk of the people who used to soloqueue think it's been removed, meaning an already small player pool is now nonexistant. I think soloqueue will die completely if they don't make the option more obvious.
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Was +15 w/r and now back to 1+, all I feel is valve laughing in the background.
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On July 16 2013 10:06 Belisarius wrote:Show nested quote +On July 16 2013 08:26 DoNotDisturb wrote:On July 16 2013 02:29 pyro19 wrote:
Very Smart from Valve Removing the Solo Queue Tab and hiding it in the Find Match Options
Waiting 10 mins For a match is FUN please read changelogs ...you realise that the post clearly indicates that he does know where it is, right? The problem is that nobody else reads the change logs, and an enormous chunk of the people who used to soloqueue think it's been removed, meaning an already small player pool is now nonexistant. I think soloqueue will die completely if they don't make the option more obvious.
If anything I would prefer soloqueue to die off, since the wait was always too long for me to be bothered, so (for me) it essentially means there are less players in the regular pool to match against.
Not to mention the one game I did get into in solo (and my first game in high matchmaking without a stack) was probably one of the worst games I've ever had.
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