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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25562 Posts
June 17 2013 05:04 GMT
#11561
I do see a lot of wildly inappropriate Bloodstones in Dota. I'm guessing people just are afraid to save up 2.7k or 2.1k to work towards a sheepstick and are like "fuck it, Bloodstone's items are all cheap" and make it instead.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Aceace
Profile Joined June 2011
Turkey1305 Posts
June 17 2013 05:04 GMT
#11562
Our courier killed by enemy mid hero 3 times in 11 minutes 32 seconds..
Dün dündür, bugün bugündür. (Yesterday was yesterday, today is today)
HigoSeco
Profile Joined December 2010
Chile232 Posts
June 17 2013 05:11 GMT
#11563
On June 17 2013 14:04 Aceace wrote:
Our courier killed by enemy mid hero 3 times in 11 minutes 32 seconds..

did u crow it?
SXGCoil
Profile Joined February 2012
United States341 Posts
June 17 2013 05:14 GMT
#11564
On June 17 2013 13:52 SKC wrote:
Bloodstone is a Dota thing. It's in part because it used to be a better item, but it's also just a convenient item. It gives a little bit everything an Perseverance is one of the most convenient items in the game.

It's not very good at all, but you see people getting BS in anything that wants to get tanky or needs regen in pubs.

I looked at the patch notes and I only see buffs to bloodstone since like 6.60
Aceace
Profile Joined June 2011
Turkey1305 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-17 05:22:06
June 17 2013 05:21 GMT
#11565
On June 17 2013 14:11 HigoSeco wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2013 14:04 Aceace wrote:
Our courier killed by enemy mid hero 3 times in 11 minutes 32 seconds..

did u crow it?

Yep. After courier die second time i upgraded it. Because no one wanted to upgrade it. But this had to be done. (I was playing spectre and having a baad baaaad time against silencer.) Our team had Lich, enigma jungle, OD and batrider.

But somehow OD let our crow die. Again.
Dün dündür, bugün bugündür. (Yesterday was yesterday, today is today)
SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
June 17 2013 05:41 GMT
#11566
On June 17 2013 14:14 SXGCoil wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2013 13:52 SKC wrote:
Bloodstone is a Dota thing. It's in part because it used to be a better item, but it's also just a convenient item. It gives a little bit everything an Perseverance is one of the most convenient items in the game.

It's not very good at all, but you see people getting BS in anything that wants to get tanky or needs regen in pubs.

I looked at the patch notes and I only see buffs to bloodstone since like 6.60

It was a long time ago, but some habits are hard to kill. You used to snowball much harder with it when you had increased health regen with charges.
Aquanim
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia2849 Posts
June 17 2013 05:49 GMT
#11567
On June 17 2013 13:32 hooahah wrote:
^is bloodstone Rubick an actual thing? it sounds like such a dumb item build for Rubick. Is it the recommended item build by Valve or something?

Yeah, I believe it is recommended core, along with arcane boots and a wand. Also IIRC mekanism isn't even listed as situational (not that Rubick is a great carrier for a mek, but 1-protect-4 is the most common 'situation' in pubs...)
lazyitachi
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
1043 Posts
June 17 2013 07:00 GMT
#11568
Bloodstone used to be + Health and mana regen
Heart used to be constant 2% regen not disabled on attack.

Those were some fun good times. Tanky int like necro, necrolic and dp such fun.
Ponera
Profile Joined October 2011
Canada596 Posts
June 17 2013 07:33 GMT
#11569
I am furious. I am drunk, went to easy vs comps and randomly got OD so I called mid right away. I was greeted by a venomancer that denied the fuck out of everything I tried to do, then followed me around the map. He went like 2-11 and then abandoned after wasting 40 minutes of my life. The amazing part? All four of them reported me, according to what they said, for being "bad" yet I fought through the crap they dished to be the best on my team.

Meanwhile, I could only report 2 of them...if I wanted to burn my reports this week.

I am still not buying anything, be it open a chest/whatever, til the mute system is gone but holy fucking fuck. So I get punished apparently for having a team that basically fucked me around with orchid omni builds and denying their hardest carry all game? Oh did I mention we got to 45 mins before I quit (thanks to someone else abandoning) and no courier. Yet we had a venomancer and an omniknight.

Seriously this game rocks faces but the report system needs some serious fucking work.
You won't feel very "Plus" in TL+
SXGCoil
Profile Joined February 2012
United States341 Posts
June 17 2013 07:36 GMT
#11570
On June 17 2013 14:49 Aquanim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2013 13:32 hooahah wrote:
^is bloodstone Rubick an actual thing? it sounds like such a dumb item build for Rubick. Is it the recommended item build by Valve or something?

Yeah, I believe it is recommended core, along with arcane boots and a wand. Also IIRC mekanism isn't even listed as situational (not that Rubick is a great carrier for a mek, but 1-protect-4 is the most common 'situation' in pubs...)

Why isn't rubick a good mek carrier?
Aquanim
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia2849 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-17 08:07:44
June 17 2013 08:03 GMT
#11571
On June 17 2013 16:36 SXGCoil wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2013 14:49 Aquanim wrote:
On June 17 2013 13:32 hooahah wrote:
^is bloodstone Rubick an actual thing? it sounds like such a dumb item build for Rubick. Is it the recommended item build by Valve or something?

Yeah, I believe it is recommended core, along with arcane boots and a wand. Also IIRC mekanism isn't even listed as situational (not that Rubick is a great carrier for a mek, but 1-protect-4 is the most common 'situation' in pubs...)

Why isn't rubick a good mek carrier?

I'd want somebody who's actually good at Dota to verify this, but I think Rubick typically doesn't get enough gold to get a Mek at a good, early timing. The item in as of itself is good (in fact, when I play Rubick I often buy it because nobody else has) but I think that it's often better on someone else who can get it earlier (for instance, a Dark Seer). Mek falls off in effectiveness the later you get it.

That being said, I think it is situational at the very least on him, and if you somehow end up with lots of gold early on a Rubick it is very effective, like it is on any other hero.
Emnjay808
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States10666 Posts
June 17 2013 08:14 GMT
#11572
On June 17 2013 17:03 Aquanim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2013 16:36 SXGCoil wrote:
On June 17 2013 14:49 Aquanim wrote:
On June 17 2013 13:32 hooahah wrote:
^is bloodstone Rubick an actual thing? it sounds like such a dumb item build for Rubick. Is it the recommended item build by Valve or something?

Yeah, I believe it is recommended core, along with arcane boots and a wand. Also IIRC mekanism isn't even listed as situational (not that Rubick is a great carrier for a mek, but 1-protect-4 is the most common 'situation' in pubs...)

Why isn't rubick a good mek carrier?

I'd want somebody who's actually good at Dota to verify this, but I think Rubick typically doesn't get enough gold to get a Mek at a good, early timing. The item in as of itself is good (in fact, when I play Rubick I often buy it because nobody else has) but I think that it's often better on someone else who can get it earlier (for instance, a Dark Seer). Mek falls off in effectiveness the later you get it.

That being said, I think it is situational at the very least on him, and if you somehow end up with lots of gold early on a Rubick it is very effective, like it is on any other hero.

You want to pool your gold to get a positional items, like forcestaff or blink dagger on a hero like Rubick. Most of the time your only job as rubick is to counter initiate and steal that one core spell. Having items like forcestaff and blink dagger helps you execute these scenarios. Im not saying mek is useless on him, but you would rather see better items like forcestaff and blink dagger on him first.
Skol
-Celestial-
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom3867 Posts
June 17 2013 09:32 GMT
#11573
I fell into "one last win" syndrome last night.


First game: Single draft. Not the best draft but whatever. Team locks in Omni and Disruptor and Drow. Last guy is hovering over Morph and its 15 seconds after the clock (two still to pick on their team) so I lock in Riki. I figure can safelane Drow and Omni, mid Morph, offlane Riki and Disruptor. All good right?

Nope. After I lock in Riki other team immediately counterpicks with Gondar. Then our last guy takes....Earthshaker. Omni comes offlane with me. Drow and Disruptor go off together. Razor is bottom just constantly attacking when we even get close to the lane. Then Jakiro rotates bottom and we can't even get close.

Later on ES rages at me for picking Riki when they'd picked Bounty Hunter. I point out that they counterpicked so instead he starts going on about how you shouldn't pick Riki unless its last pick. Because clearly I could have predicted that one of their team had a BH in single draft and was yet to pick...


Ok. fine. Next can't be as bad, right? Exhibit 2: All Random. I get PA. Cool. We got a Zeus for mid and a couple of supports so if we just....nope. Zeus repicks into CK and we have no mid. So we've got a jungling Chen, a mid CK, an offlane solo Ogre (who is muted and spamming "help" all game because he's getting annihilated) and a Treant who keeps single pulling my lane and randomly hitting creeps every so often, screwing my farm. Die horribly to a Bloodseeker who trashtalked all game. Although his reaction when I dropped him and stole his Divine Rapier was pretty funny. Gave him a bit of a scare.


Lets try again, getting late but I'm not finishing on that. Good, Random Draft. Even better I get Luna and their hardest carry is Kunkka. I get good farm with a Lion in my lane against a solo BH.

Doesn't matter. OD mid is horrible, dies repeatedly and loses the lane hard to Night Stalker who then goes ganking. Meanwhile Witch Doctor top is apparently feeding Enchantress like crazy. We lose a ton of towers and I'm fighting for farm. Just can't do anything, not enough in the tank to deal with that much feed.


Fortunately I was put out of my misery next game in an All Random game as KotL. Me and Brewmaster mess up their AA and Void quite a lot. SF and Gyro get big and we just win. Bonus points for Void raging because I must have killed him about seven times in a row (it wasn't deliberate, just Illuminate so strong).


Moral of the story? For god's sake don't just think "I'll play one more quick game before bed". -_-
"Protoss simultaneously feels unbeatably strong and unwinnably weak." - kcdc
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25562 Posts
June 17 2013 09:50 GMT
#11574
On June 17 2013 17:14 Emnjay808 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2013 17:03 Aquanim wrote:
On June 17 2013 16:36 SXGCoil wrote:
On June 17 2013 14:49 Aquanim wrote:
On June 17 2013 13:32 hooahah wrote:
^is bloodstone Rubick an actual thing? it sounds like such a dumb item build for Rubick. Is it the recommended item build by Valve or something?

Yeah, I believe it is recommended core, along with arcane boots and a wand. Also IIRC mekanism isn't even listed as situational (not that Rubick is a great carrier for a mek, but 1-protect-4 is the most common 'situation' in pubs...)

Why isn't rubick a good mek carrier?

I'd want somebody who's actually good at Dota to verify this, but I think Rubick typically doesn't get enough gold to get a Mek at a good, early timing. The item in as of itself is good (in fact, when I play Rubick I often buy it because nobody else has) but I think that it's often better on someone else who can get it earlier (for instance, a Dark Seer). Mek falls off in effectiveness the later you get it.

That being said, I think it is situational at the very least on him, and if you somehow end up with lots of gold early on a Rubick it is very effective, like it is on any other hero.

You want to pool your gold to get a positional items, like forcestaff or blink dagger on a hero like Rubick. Most of the time your only job as rubick is to counter initiate and steal that one core spell. Having items like forcestaff and blink dagger helps you execute these scenarios. Im not saying mek is useless on him, but you would rather see better items like forcestaff and blink dagger on him first.


My usual thing as rubick is if there is another support, especially one who doesn't need any particular items or positioning to be really useful, then I ask that guy to get a mek. After he says "omg noob i mak dagon" then I sadly buy the mek, as well as the donkey the crow and all the wards.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Belisarius
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia6233 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-17 11:20:56
June 17 2013 11:15 GMT
#11575
Most depressing moment of my rubick life.

Steal and return an epic 4 man black hole. My team? All turn and back until it's over. "Thought it was theirs."

...yes guys, that's why they were taking damage and doing the air-walk, while you all mysteriously got set free.

Also, my antimage carry finishes with 170 gpm. Sad rubick is very, very sad.
Zexion
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Sweden971 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-17 13:50:11
June 17 2013 13:49 GMT
#11576
So...

I solo queue and end with an ES who is good. I win mid as Storm and then we have Doom solo farming all game, Lone druid being completely useless and bad at farming and BH...not speccing track until lvl 9 (because I told him it's a good spell).

The opponents are all quite good so I don't even need to tell you the rest. Apparently it's my fault for "going mid and 0 gangs, pro storm". What the fuck is up with this matchmaking system?
Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8278 Posts
June 17 2013 14:08 GMT
#11577
Just came out of a game where someone got an abandon for sitting inside the fountain too long. Not for afk'ing, not for letting the enemy win or anything like that. He got abandon because he couldn't figure out what to buy..for 2 whole minutes..

This guy has over 600 games played, he ends the game 0-6-1 and with an abandon because he can't figure out how the buying system works. I..don't..wat?!
BoesFX
Profile Joined April 2013
1466 Posts
June 17 2013 14:14 GMT
#11578
On June 17 2013 23:08 Excludos wrote:
Just came out of a game where someone got an abandon for sitting inside the fountain too long. Not for afk'ing, not for letting the enemy win or anything like that. He got abandon because he couldn't figure out what to buy..for 2 whole minutes..

This guy has over 600 games played, he ends the game 0-6-1 and with an abandon because he can't figure out how the buying system works. I..don't..wat?!


Perhaps the account owner lends his account to his friend who used to play dota for him since he has sudden business, but I am not too sure about that.
Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8278 Posts
June 17 2013 14:35 GMT
#11579
On June 17 2013 23:14 BoesFX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2013 23:08 Excludos wrote:
Just came out of a game where someone got an abandon for sitting inside the fountain too long. Not for afk'ing, not for letting the enemy win or anything like that. He got abandon because he couldn't figure out what to buy..for 2 whole minutes..

This guy has over 600 games played, he ends the game 0-6-1 and with an abandon because he can't figure out how the buying system works. I..don't..wat?!


Perhaps the account owner lends his account to his friend who used to play dota for him since he has sudden business, but I am not too sure about that.


Considering its a free game, I don't see why anyone would do that? "Here, take my much higher mmr account than yours so you can play for me, be completely aweful, and ruin the game for everyone in it. Then give me some abandons because you don't know how dota basics work while you're at it"
Yoshi-
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany10227 Posts
June 17 2013 14:58 GMT
#11580
I think I may now be at the bottom of MMR
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Why do I even first pick carry in matchmaking
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