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On June 06 2013 07:40 SKC wrote:Show nested quote +On June 06 2013 07:08 lizzuma wrote:On June 06 2013 04:17 Torte de Lini wrote:![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/iaAJeaE.png) I can't stand playing with South Americans and Central Americans, they literally can't speak any English, they band-wagon reports and they're fucking aggravating to play with One of the defining features of the South and Central American stack is their sniper carry. For some reason, this terrible hero is really revered there. It's the 3rd most played hero. Nubs love Sniper everywhere.
Sniper is a good hero T_T is just that too many people played him the wrong way, every one of those snipers who didnt skill and use shrapnel.
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On June 06 2013 06:10 SXGCoil wrote: Fucking hell why do I bother playing anymore
All I get in fucking pubs are retards who only picks carries and don't know shit about fucking roles.
Random draft Dude PL first picks on our team. W/e, better than playing against him. Than 2nd guy picks Lifestealer, ok...I guess he can jungle. 3rd guy picks TA, ok, cool a mid. 4th guy picks tiny. What. The. Fuck. and, as usual, I'm last picking and I pick literally the last ranged support in the pool Crystal Maiden(Not picking Tide or undying when we already have 3 melee,4 if you count TA) and Tiny says he'll solo safe lane VS A FUCKING LONE DRUID. Dude doesn't even get a stout shield. He dies about 4 times solo to the lone druid. I go to top with PL who can't last hit to save his life. I'm the only one buying wards, of course.
I then ask why he picked tiny when we already had 2 carries. He goes "TINY IS A SUPPORT AND ALWAYS PLAYED LIKE ONE" Holy shit, 1. so many things wrong with that statement. 2. Then why the fuck did you take the safe lane you piece of trash. TA in mid never gets a bottle nor does she every put traps on runes. Just puts them in front of tower where they die.
people like this tiny make me face palm... its like, should i even bother explaining why they are wrong to these people? i tried to explain to an enemy void that position 1 vs position 1, void beats all let alone his void vs my kunkka... nope im bad for not carrying my team past the 40 minute mark.
yeah you can play tiny as a support type but then again you can play invoker as a cold snap support bitch. it can work but its fucking terrible.
Sniper is a good hero T_T is just that too many people played him the wrong way, every one of those snipers who didnt skill and use shrapnel.
battle sniper guide after battle pa guide? =D
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I got raged at by a fourstack the last game I played for getting shrapnel. I even got firstblood on pudge mid because of it too after i got distracted and let him get too close to me. This happened months ago but some games just stick out.
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On June 06 2013 08:05 Tsutchie wrote:Show nested quote +On June 06 2013 06:10 SXGCoil wrote: Fucking hell why do I bother playing anymore
All I get in fucking pubs are retards who only picks carries and don't know shit about fucking roles.
Random draft Dude PL first picks on our team. W/e, better than playing against him. Than 2nd guy picks Lifestealer, ok...I guess he can jungle. 3rd guy picks TA, ok, cool a mid. 4th guy picks tiny. What. The. Fuck. and, as usual, I'm last picking and I pick literally the last ranged support in the pool Crystal Maiden(Not picking Tide or undying when we already have 3 melee,4 if you count TA) and Tiny says he'll solo safe lane VS A FUCKING LONE DRUID. Dude doesn't even get a stout shield. He dies about 4 times solo to the lone druid. I go to top with PL who can't last hit to save his life. I'm the only one buying wards, of course.
I then ask why he picked tiny when we already had 2 carries. He goes "TINY IS A SUPPORT AND ALWAYS PLAYED LIKE ONE" Holy shit, 1. so many things wrong with that statement. 2. Then why the fuck did you take the safe lane you piece of trash. TA in mid never gets a bottle nor does she every put traps on runes. Just puts them in front of tower where they die. people like this tiny make me face palm... its like, should i even bother explaining why they are wrong to these people? i tried to explain to an enemy void that position 1 vs position 1, void beats all let alone his void vs my kunkka... nope im bad for not carrying my team past the 40 minute mark. yeah you can play tiny as a support type but then again you can play invoker as a cold snap support bitch. it can work but its fucking terrible. Show nested quote + Sniper is a good hero T_T is just that too many people played him the wrong way, every one of those snipers who didnt skill and use shrapnel.
battle sniper guide after battle pa guide? =D
Jesus i hate that kind of player like tiny too, like, sure they can play whatever they want but we do that as a roamer or take the hardlane, we let the 'proper carry' take the safelane. So many sad games because of these people.
rofl no sniper guide but seriously shrapnel is a sickening spell since t1 tower doesnt have bd protection, you can run sniper in any lane and be very useful (farming ofc would be affected by what lane you decided to go to). I used to dislike sniper too as a hero until i was inspired by PIS's sniper, he is such a good hero in pub.
I owned a lanaya with sniper at mid the other day, game was good until our safelane freefarm jugger dicking around with a dagger >_> i think he thought we won.
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On June 06 2013 08:17 BurningSera wrote:Show nested quote +On June 06 2013 08:05 Tsutchie wrote:On June 06 2013 06:10 SXGCoil wrote: Fucking hell why do I bother playing anymore
All I get in fucking pubs are retards who only picks carries and don't know shit about fucking roles.
Random draft Dude PL first picks on our team. W/e, better than playing against him. Than 2nd guy picks Lifestealer, ok...I guess he can jungle. 3rd guy picks TA, ok, cool a mid. 4th guy picks tiny. What. The. Fuck. and, as usual, I'm last picking and I pick literally the last ranged support in the pool Crystal Maiden(Not picking Tide or undying when we already have 3 melee,4 if you count TA) and Tiny says he'll solo safe lane VS A FUCKING LONE DRUID. Dude doesn't even get a stout shield. He dies about 4 times solo to the lone druid. I go to top with PL who can't last hit to save his life. I'm the only one buying wards, of course.
I then ask why he picked tiny when we already had 2 carries. He goes "TINY IS A SUPPORT AND ALWAYS PLAYED LIKE ONE" Holy shit, 1. so many things wrong with that statement. 2. Then why the fuck did you take the safe lane you piece of trash. TA in mid never gets a bottle nor does she every put traps on runes. Just puts them in front of tower where they die. people like this tiny make me face palm... its like, should i even bother explaining why they are wrong to these people? i tried to explain to an enemy void that position 1 vs position 1, void beats all let alone his void vs my kunkka... nope im bad for not carrying my team past the 40 minute mark. yeah you can play tiny as a support type but then again you can play invoker as a cold snap support bitch. it can work but its fucking terrible. Sniper is a good hero T_T is just that too many people played him the wrong way, every one of those snipers who didnt skill and use shrapnel.
battle sniper guide after battle pa guide? =D Jesus i hate that kind of player like tiny too, like, sure they can play whatever they want but we do that as a roamer or take the hardlane, we let the 'proper carry' take the safelane. So many sad games because of these people. rofl no sniper guide but seriously shrapnel is a sickening spell since t1 tower doesnt have bd protection, you can run sniper in any lane and be very useful (farming ofc would be affected by what lane you decided to go to). I used to dislike sniper too as a hero until i was inspired by PIS's sniper, he is such a good hero in pub. I owned a lanaya with sniper at mid the other day, game was good until our safelane freefarm jugger dicking around with a dagger >_> i think he thought we won.
The ministun of headshot is the most hilarious rage inducing thing to fight against. So easy to build attack speed and just roll people from a mile and a half away.
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On June 06 2013 08:02 BurningSera wrote:Show nested quote +On June 06 2013 07:40 SKC wrote:On June 06 2013 07:08 lizzuma wrote:On June 06 2013 04:17 Torte de Lini wrote:![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/iaAJeaE.png) I can't stand playing with South Americans and Central Americans, they literally can't speak any English, they band-wagon reports and they're fucking aggravating to play with One of the defining features of the South and Central American stack is their sniper carry. For some reason, this terrible hero is really revered there. It's the 3rd most played hero. Nubs love Sniper everywhere. Sniper is a good hero T_T is just that too many people played him the wrong way, every one of those snipers who didnt skill and use shrapnel. I'm not saying he isn't (well, he is not a top tier hero by any means, but easily good for pubs and far from a reason to complain), but nubs all over the world do love sniper. It's a simple point and click hero with great damage that people don't focus because he is not clubbing their faces. Saying just a certain region loves him is far from the truth.
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On June 06 2013 08:26 SKC wrote:Show nested quote +On June 06 2013 08:02 BurningSera wrote:On June 06 2013 07:40 SKC wrote:On June 06 2013 07:08 lizzuma wrote:On June 06 2013 04:17 Torte de Lini wrote:![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/iaAJeaE.png) I can't stand playing with South Americans and Central Americans, they literally can't speak any English, they band-wagon reports and they're fucking aggravating to play with One of the defining features of the South and Central American stack is their sniper carry. For some reason, this terrible hero is really revered there. It's the 3rd most played hero. Nubs love Sniper everywhere. Sniper is a good hero T_T is just that too many people played him the wrong way, every one of those snipers who didnt skill and use shrapnel. I'm not saying he isn't (well, he is not a top tier hero by any means, but easily good for pubs and far from a reason to complain), but nubs all over the world do love sniper. It's a simple point and click hero with great damage that people don't focus because he is not clubbing their faces. Saying just a certain region loves him is far from the truth. just gonna say i played with three snipers today, all of them spoke Portuguese. in many of our experiences sniper is far more common with south america than with north america.
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On June 06 2013 07:52 Nocticate wrote: I had a guy who thought Gyrocopter was an initiator today.
I tried to correct him on it. he went 5-10 and had PMS, treads, and shadow blade by 40 minutes. sigh. we lost that one.
I haven't won a slardar game yet. 0-3 with him today. I'm not playing badly with him at all, I just can't seem to have enough of an impact on the game when we have a shadow demon and gyrocopter (both randomed) who feed AA enough so that he gets an early aghanim's scepter. jesus fucking christ icefrog what the hell kind of idea was this shit? From full health it killed our gyrocopter once. I'm not fucking amused.
I feel ya. My heart broke when I saw my freefarm Gyro buy an Aghs scepter.
also, <3 AA's buff, good to know it rapes. AA seriously needs some love.
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On June 06 2013 08:17 BurningSera wrote:Show nested quote +On June 06 2013 08:05 Tsutchie wrote:On June 06 2013 06:10 SXGCoil wrote: Fucking hell why do I bother playing anymore
All I get in fucking pubs are retards who only picks carries and don't know shit about fucking roles.
Random draft Dude PL first picks on our team. W/e, better than playing against him. Than 2nd guy picks Lifestealer, ok...I guess he can jungle. 3rd guy picks TA, ok, cool a mid. 4th guy picks tiny. What. The. Fuck. and, as usual, I'm last picking and I pick literally the last ranged support in the pool Crystal Maiden(Not picking Tide or undying when we already have 3 melee,4 if you count TA) and Tiny says he'll solo safe lane VS A FUCKING LONE DRUID. Dude doesn't even get a stout shield. He dies about 4 times solo to the lone druid. I go to top with PL who can't last hit to save his life. I'm the only one buying wards, of course.
I then ask why he picked tiny when we already had 2 carries. He goes "TINY IS A SUPPORT AND ALWAYS PLAYED LIKE ONE" Holy shit, 1. so many things wrong with that statement. 2. Then why the fuck did you take the safe lane you piece of trash. TA in mid never gets a bottle nor does she every put traps on runes. Just puts them in front of tower where they die. people like this tiny make me face palm... its like, should i even bother explaining why they are wrong to these people? i tried to explain to an enemy void that position 1 vs position 1, void beats all let alone his void vs my kunkka... nope im bad for not carrying my team past the 40 minute mark. yeah you can play tiny as a support type but then again you can play invoker as a cold snap support bitch. it can work but its fucking terrible. Sniper is a good hero T_T is just that too many people played him the wrong way, every one of those snipers who didnt skill and use shrapnel.
battle sniper guide after battle pa guide? =D Jesus i hate that kind of player like tiny too, like, sure they can play whatever they want but we do that as a roamer or take the hardlane, we let the 'proper carry' take the safelane. So many sad games because of these people. rofl no sniper guide but seriously shrapnel is a sickening spell since t1 tower doesnt have bd protection, you can run sniper in any lane and be very useful (farming ofc would be affected by what lane you decided to go to). I used to dislike sniper too as a hero until i was inspired by PIS's sniper, he is such a good hero in pub. I owned a lanaya with sniper at mid the other day, game was good until our safelane freefarm jugger dicking around with a dagger >_> i think he thought we won.
did the same things. Shrapnel just destroy Lanaya. sadly the conclusion from the other team is that the Lanaya is noob instead of me being gosu
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played AP, surprisingly no one picked a carry (CM, SD, BB and Necro) so I went ahead and picked PA, proceed to go safelane with SD. SD buys bottle with starting money, proceeds to contest every single last hit and push the wave with shadow poison. Fine, whatever, I managed to get some farm anyhow. Game proceeds, I'm doing well, kills are slightly in our favor, look at my teammates...
CM - poor as fuck since she was supporting but that's expected, she actually played really well Necro and SD have both gone Dagon
guys
the fuck
thankfully the other team was even worse so we managed to win but jesus christ wth
oh, and the SD was muted. Pinged like mad and pinged "well played!" whenever he died. I'm really not sure why he isn't just playing in Low Priority.
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On June 06 2013 03:09 Nocticate wrote: Gets a 42 minute radiance while being a dick. Turns out he has 78 wins and is level 10.
???
I have a lot of respect for Valve and I know that they're working on making the game as good as they can. but seriously the way they're doing matchmaking right now makes for awful, awful games.
I do question the matchmaking to be honest. The other day I had a game where I wasn't even angry, I just felt bad for the guy on the receiving end.
Random Draft game. I'm Antimage with a Shadow Shaman support. We do really well in lane getting a couple of kills for me on their Lion and forcing their Druid back. I'm farming up, little behind on CS thanks to the fights and harass but the kills helped a lot in getting lane dominance. We've had to put Axe mid against a Drow but my support rotates up there too to get harrass on her every so often and let Axe get himself somewhere in terms of levels and farm. All going very well for me and pretty much even in mid despite the matchup.
Then things start going horribly, horribly wrong. A surprisingly well farmed Bounty Hunter appears out of nowhere and starts wrecking. My Battlefury ends up heavily delayed (about 25 minutes mark or something, considering I had Perse and one of the swords at about 15). Eventually I get it up and try to flashfarm but its just impossible. BH is everywhere.
In essence what had happened is that our offlane lost against this guy and his support ridiculously hard. Then he just starts roaming and killing everything. This let their Druid come back and their Drow come online. The source of this? Our Tidehunter who had been with Clinkz offlane. By the end of the ~35 minute game he was 0-12 and three levels behind the other team's lowest levelled player. His items were boots, bracer, branch, robe of the magi and TWO magic sticks. Team raging at him of course.
I look at everyone's profiles. Literally every single person in the game had at least a couple of hundred wins, so probably at least around 400 games total. All except this guy...who if I remember correctly had 12 wins.
I just don't even know how that happens. I know my queues are a little long because I'm pretty selective for what I queue for. but even at about a ten minute wait it really isn't fair that this poor sod who clearly didn't even know what he was doing got thrown in with a bunch of people with hundreds of games played. I think it was Shadow Shaman yelling for everyone to report Tidehunter in allchat at the end; I tried to encourage everyone not to explaining that he is just a newbie so they should just leave him alone. No idea if it helped but I hope they didn't report the poor guy. Keep thinking I should see if he's still playing. :-\
I'd have added him and given some encouragement but frankly after that game I'm not sure he'd have wanted to talk to any of us.
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Luna safe lane with 48 last hit at the end of the game, goes 1-5 against bounty hunter /axe and has powertreads+wands in 25 min. How does that happen. The rubick that was supporting her has no boots at 25 min, granted he has been warding his side of the map but at the minimum get brown boots ( he ended 0-14).
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Phantom. Lancer.
Also, I was the only one who didn't get a drop in the match
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Sniper is playable, but I don't think it is a Shrapnel early build, though whether or not you use Shrapnel is a good marker of skill. He needs to be mid against a weak mid choice on their part. He'll push the lane a lot because his range to kill creeps extends safely to the enemies tower. When he hits six, he's going to go for a gank.
I prefer to not get Shadow Blade, though I see that is a very common and probably fine item choice for him. Probably Yasha first if the game is already getting team-fighty, Butterfly if your farm is getting out of control. You might have to buy your own wards. (And Tranquils are still quite good on him because he has a LOT of time for passive regain.)
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On June 06 2013 21:40 Sherlock-Canada wrote: I prefer to not get Shadow Blade, though I see that is a very common and probably fine item choice for him.
I'm pretty sure people get Lothars because with a combination of below-average movement speed, extreme squishiness and no built-in escape mechanism he generally needs something to keep him alive. Plus attack speed and damage is excellent for Sniper.
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On June 06 2013 22:28 -Celestial- wrote:Show nested quote +On June 06 2013 21:40 Sherlock-Canada wrote: I prefer to not get Shadow Blade, though I see that is a very common and probably fine item choice for him. I'm pretty sure people get Lothars because with a combination of below-average movement speed, extreme squishiness and no built-in escape mechanism he generally needs something to keep him alive. Plus attack speed and damage is excellent for Sniper.
as well as 90% of pubs won't buy detection until the 50th minutes
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Sniper mid depends a lot on enemy supports not ganking
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Lothars is a pretty mediocre item at best on sniper imo. All it lets you do is escape really, and its not even good at that unless your up against bad players. its not like he can really use it offensively like some heroes, all he can do with it is run up and auto attack and follow up with his ult. You might pick off a supremely broke squishy fifth position with that but besides that it doesnt give amazing stats especially since the nerf, and it doesnt actually work very effectively as an escape against people with brains.
whoa I thought this was the gd thread. wow im offtopic.
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60 minutes in mid lane Tinker Dagon5, BoTs, Blink Dagger.
GG.
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On June 06 2013 23:12 PassiveAce wrote: Lothars is a pretty mediocre item at best on sniper imo. All it lets you do is escape really, and its not even good at that unless your up against bad players. its not like he can really use it offensively like some heroes, all he can do with it is run up and auto attack and follow up with his ult. You might pick off a supremely broke squishy fifth position with that but besides that it doesnt give amazing stats especially since the nerf, and it doesnt actually work very effectively as an escape against people with brains.
whoa I thought this was the gd thread. wow im offtopic. The thing is that with sniper you rely on the ennemy team forgetting you and not initiating on you, and lothar is a good way to achieve that un pubs. Typically you would be behind invi, the fight starts and you stay behind doing pew pew pew and killing all of them. At least that's how I see sniper working in pubs :D (similar to drow in some fashion, but he needs items to do damage while drow doesn't)
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