EPTDota 2 QQ thread - Page 525
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Please remember that while this thread is for QQ and venting about the game, racism is not tolerated here on LD. | ||
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slimabob
4 Posts
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Shaella
United States14828 Posts
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packrat386
United States5077 Posts
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Unleashing
Denmark14978 Posts
He never fucking listens to anything. Me: Go back, we don't know where they are. Him 10 seconds later after dying because he didn't go back: Omg why did they waste RP on me Me: Don't start the fight, we're all half health Him 10 seconds later after dying and getting most of the team killed: Why did we lose that fight? Me: Don't Him after dying: I didn't expect X to happen Me 5 minutes later in the same match: Don't Him after dying again to the same thing: I didn't expect X to happen And in a fight silencer used ghost scepter, only people around are me him and another guy from our team, none of us has any magical damage or anything that goes through a ghost scepter. Their ogre is next to the silencer, i imprison the silencer and tell him to go on ogre. After we lose that fights because he kept standing around the prison instead of just going on the fucking ogre he complains that we lost because imprison lasts for too long. GHOST SCEPTER DURATION: 4 SECONDS IMPRISON: 4 SECONDS GOD FUCKING DAMNIT. Now i remember why i stopped stacking with him. HOW HARD IS IT TO LISTEN TO SOMEONE YOU'RE ON FUCKING SKYPE WITH? YES I GET MAD WHEN YOU START BLAMING ME AND OTHER PEOPLE AFTER YOU FUCK UP. Especially when he starts blaming other players who have done nothing wrong. Or when we play all-random and he instant repicks without asking if anyone wants to swap. AND THEN COMPLAINS WHEN WE END UP WITH 4 HARD CARRIES FROM PEOPLE REPICKING. | ||
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skirmisheR
Sweden451 Posts
On May 20 2013 23:34 Plansix wrote: The problem with your plan is that you assume that aggression will lead to the player changing the way they play. People are naturally defensive and respond poorly when they are attacked, insulted or otherwise belittled in a social setting. Your main plan of belittling someone for playing wrong is flawed because it will likely just lead to team disruption. Also, by insulting the player, you are running the risk of them becoming distracted and performing poorly for fear of being berated by you. Nothing about your plan is good, despite what you say. Insulting people will not lead your team to working better or playing well together. Rather than saying “Your building the wrong items, your build is bad,” it is far better to say “I have played X-hero before and if you get this item instead, you will do way better.” It is like if someone makes a bad selection for mid, it is it always better to say “Hey, that match up is really rough. If you get in trouble, let me know and I’ll have a TP ready,” than insulting them for making a poor pick. Obviously you don't get mad at the person at first, but if he/she is super cocky, calls everybody noobs and is in general a dick then the only way to change his/her build is to be super vocal about it. Otherwise you won't change anything. Do you honestly believe you can change a "fuck you noob"-person's build by saying "hey i think your item choice is good but here is how you can do it better"? The person isn't "fearing" me since we're not talking about some new shy dude here but more a very angry player who doesn't give a shit about what you say until you are loud about it. I don't think you are reading my posts since it's obvious what type of person I'm talking about and it's obvious that a "tell me if you get in trouble and I'll TP"-comment won't work. | ||
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packrat386
United States5077 Posts
On May 21 2013 06:03 skirmisheR wrote: Obviously you don't get mad at the person at first, but if he/she is super cocky, calls everybody noobs and is in general a dick then the only way to change his/her build is to be super vocal about it. Otherwise you won't change anything. Do you honestly believe you can change a "fuck you noob"-person's build by saying "hey i think your item choice is good but here is how you can do it better"? The person isn't "fearing" me since we're not talking about some new shy dude here but more a very angry player who doesn't give a shit about what you say until you are loud about it. I don't think you are reading my posts since it's obvious what type of person I'm talking about and it's obvious that a "tell me if you get in trouble and I'll TP"-comment won't work. Do you honestly think you can change a "fuck you noob" persons build anyway? FFS you keep coming back and commenting about how being polite isn't to work and completely ignoring that NEITHER WILL BEING AN ASSHOLE. Sometimes you can't changes peoples minds, but its just about never a good idea to try to get in their face and intimidate them about it over the internet. 99.9999999% of the time they are just going to react with more aggression and then not only have they not changed their build, the rest of the game is probably going to suck since you're arguing with your team mates. Sometimes you get assholes on your team. Deal with it. Try not to piss them off even more. | ||
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Aceace
Turkey1305 Posts
QoP goes mid. At level 5 she has 2 points of poison and 3 points of blink. I gave first blood against a spectre-es-shaman trilane at soloofflane at 6 minute. My farm wasn't great but i manage to get some levels at least thanks to pulling with my bear. He said. "Omg. How could you die with LD?" I quit. Then abandons game... | ||
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aliquis
Austria38 Posts
Although i am still of the firm opinion that it is a great game i just cant get any enjoyment out of it anymore. I read racism cursing swearing, personal insults, i just cant put up with it anymore ... | ||
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Gotuso
Netherlands733 Posts
Also, playing with a first time Meepo twice in a row is just... annoying. Having a lvl 5 Windrunner with 8 deaths and 0 points in Windwalk at 20 minutes isn't helping either. Neither is the 13-1 Nyx on the opposing team. Seriously, can that hero get a nerf to his ultimate svp? I'm sure he's fine in the pro scene, but he's just the most ridiculous pubstomping hero I've seen. | ||
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teddyoojo
Germany22369 Posts
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Shaella
United States14828 Posts
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BoxingKangaroo
Japan955 Posts
On May 21 2013 04:06 hooahah wrote: just won 2 games handily...and I had a miserable time playing both of them first game - entire team is russian (I think they were a 4stack), absolutely not a single word in english. The sum of the teamwork that was had in the game was when KotL bought a courier - and then went to the jungle and came out 15 minutes later with Boots, Midas, Dagon. Yeah. my lane partner (who I let take all the last hits since he was a hard carry + knew how to last hit) got caught out of position one time, behind their tower, dies to chain-stun. Starts pinging me like mad because I didn't save him/die trying to. thankfully the other team was pretty bad, one of them DC'd and they all left 2nd game I had an awesome support, I was playing well, I got my farm, got good kills, I was getting my groove on as Invoker - good, right? WRONG. Bristleback and Treant teammates whined a shitstorm so large it DC'd a guy on the other team. It didn't matter that I was farmed, 7-2-10, appearently "invoker fucking useless gg" but it's ok I'm having fun, we're leading but the game is close, and my dazzle support is seriously kicking ass. Nope, the DC'd guy abandoned because "teammates shit" and then everyone started bickering in all chat on weather or not we deserved to win 5vs4, "report morphling", "this team sux", etc etc etc MOTHERFUCKERS THIS IS A FUCKING GAME STOP DOING YOUR PISSING CONTEST AND JUST PLAY TO HAVE FUN JESUS It constantly amazes me how angry people can get in games that you're winning. | ||
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SXGCoil
United States341 Posts
Also, fucking bounty hunters, stop building battlefury | ||
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iokke
United States1179 Posts
anti-qq: my teammates restored some faith in humanity for me But seriously had an amazing game.. as far as my teammates went AR I get SF, end up mid vs Razor, dire side. Fail my creep block and get first blooded during first creep wave when hasted sven runs in to say hi. From there on razor completely dominated me in last hits, denies, sending me home, and zoning me. Half the time I stay back and lose exp due to the threat of sven and razor being much stronger, other half I poke my head out and die to ganks and/or my own stupidity. 0 - 7 - 1 in 14 mins. I was expecting to get flamed after 3rd death, but nope. When I asked for a set of wards to get vision over areas sven jumps in from, I got them (couldnt buy myself, sooo broke). Died a min later to invis razor anyway. Instead of flaming me my team just went on to make up for my mistakes and we stayed even in kills. My team keeps doing a great job and eventually room opens for me to farm, I ended the game 7 7 12 w highest gpm (510) somehow, but really they won 4v5 and I was just there towards the end (I actually did have impact at the end but only due to them carrying my ass for the rest of the game). Commended as Forgiving for all, but Im still amazed noone flamed me (all spoke English). When I did thank them towards the end for carrying me and not giving me shit they said np and that it was kinda hard not to say something=P Anyway I was extremely surprised that no one flamed considering how massive my fail was, though they did mention that part of the reason is that I admitted that I was playing poorly Related to the debate earlier in this thread on whether its worth it to flame ppl, if they did I'd go even more on tilt and perhaps feed more and cost us the game after all. They minimized my damage by being nice and we won instead. And any advice given nicely Id gladly take, but coulda easily ignored if it came with a serving of flames on the side, Rest of QQ: it really feels terrible when you're fucking up like I did. To top it off I really didnt know how to proceed after falling behind (on radiant maybe I could catch up a lil farming easy camp). Any tips? Other lanes were doing well so I didnt wanna mess that up by rotating. Using raze for LH wasn't enough cause it drains mana fast, piking my head out got me to low hp or killed fast (higher lvl, faster razor). Eventually I went jungling and it worked out, but early on I didn't feel like I could do that efficiently with only starting items + brown boots and low lvl. What should I have done? Edit; felt bad for that razor/sven losing, if he was a TL user I wouldnt be surprised to see a post from razor here about him completely destroying opponent mid but losing cause of the rest of the team. After watching highlights their jug was as bad as I was so guess that helped | ||
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itsthewoo
United States260 Posts
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dudeman001
United States2412 Posts
Entire team proceeds to feed. Tinker skips laser when soloing mid, Ursa doesn't realize he can solo rosh, and Puck goes 1-7 during laning phase. I hate losing with PL. | ||
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hooahah
3752 Posts
On May 21 2013 11:23 BoxingKangaroo wrote: + Show Spoiler + On May 21 2013 04:06 hooahah wrote: just won 2 games handily...and I had a miserable time playing both of them first game - entire team is russian (I think they were a 4stack), absolutely not a single word in english. The sum of the teamwork that was had in the game was when KotL bought a courier - and then went to the jungle and came out 15 minutes later with Boots, Midas, Dagon. Yeah. my lane partner (who I let take all the last hits since he was a hard carry + knew how to last hit) got caught out of position one time, behind their tower, dies to chain-stun. Starts pinging me like mad because I didn't save him/die trying to. thankfully the other team was pretty bad, one of them DC'd and they all left 2nd game I had an awesome support, I was playing well, I got my farm, got good kills, I was getting my groove on as Invoker - good, right? WRONG. Bristleback and Treant teammates whined a shitstorm so large it DC'd a guy on the other team. It didn't matter that I was farmed, 7-2-10, appearently "invoker fucking useless gg" but it's ok I'm having fun, we're leading but the game is close, and my dazzle support is seriously kicking ass. Nope, the DC'd guy abandoned because "teammates shit" and then everyone started bickering in all chat on weather or not we deserved to win 5vs4, "report morphling", "this team sux", etc etc etc MOTHERFUCKERS THIS IS A FUCKING GAME STOP DOING YOUR PISSING CONTEST AND JUST PLAY TO HAVE FUN JESUS It constantly amazes me how angry people can get in games that you're winning. Probably because I prefer having fun to winning. I have fun if there's teamwork, communication and just...people having a good time. What I don't find fun is everyone bitching, cussing, staying silent otherwise (seriously why play Dota if you're not going to be a teamplayer) and having pissing contests over who's the more elite player. I don't even mind playing with Russian stacks if they communicate well with pings/mouse wheel, one of my best games was with a russian 4stack, but those games... I don't want to just auto-mute everyone because it's still a team game | ||
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SKYFISH_
Bulgaria990 Posts
apparently now i dont have sound effects for spells and attacks. for a moment i thought the problem might be with me, because windows 7 and 5.1 speaker configuration never seem to work right, but then i remembered im playing defence of the fucking ancients by valve corporation.... | ||
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Aceace
Turkey1305 Posts
Solo offlane LD against Spectre-ES-Shadow Shaman. I'm not having huge farm but i managed to get experinence thanks to bear pull. Anyway. At 7 minutes they dived to my tower and i give first blood. Solo mid QoP: How could you die with LD? At 7 minutes he was level 5 and 2 points on poison 3 points on blink. Then immediately abandons the game. | ||
KwarK
United States44243 Posts
On May 21 2013 17:35 Aceace wrote: Random Pub game. Solo offlane LD against Spectre-ES-Shadow Shaman. I'm not having huge farm but i managed to get experinence thanks to bear pull. Anyway. At 7 minutes they dived to my tower and i give first blood. Solo mid QoP: How could you die with LD? At 7 minutes he was level 5 and 2 points on poison 3 points on blink. Then immediately abandons the game. You made this QQ already last night. | ||
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