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Zealos
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom3576 Posts
May 18 2013 15:36 GMT
#10381
Am I the only one that feels it is fucking completely pointless solo or dual queuing when you're chat banned? It literally involves being able to coordinate nothing all fucking game, then getting whined at by dumb pieces of shit when you try to gank a lane and they do literally nothing because you couldn't ask them to move their fat asses to help the gank?
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TheSubtleArt
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada2527 Posts
May 18 2013 17:01 GMT
#10382
On May 19 2013 00:36 Zealos wrote:
Am I the only one that feels it is fucking completely pointless solo or dual queuing when you're chat banned? It literally involves being able to coordinate nothing all fucking game, then getting whined at by dumb pieces of shit when you try to gank a lane and they do literally nothing because you couldn't ask them to move their fat asses to help the gank?

I find going mid in general a horrible experience without a stack. Lane feeds? "gg mid didnt gank enough"
Dodge arrows
Infernal_dream
Profile Joined September 2011
United States2359 Posts
May 18 2013 17:16 GMT
#10383
On May 19 2013 02:01 TheSubtleArt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2013 00:36 Zealos wrote:
Am I the only one that feels it is fucking completely pointless solo or dual queuing when you're chat banned? It literally involves being able to coordinate nothing all fucking game, then getting whined at by dumb pieces of shit when you try to gank a lane and they do literally nothing because you couldn't ask them to move their fat asses to help the gank?

I find going mid in general a horrible experience without a stack. Lane feeds? "gg mid didnt gank enough"


I've been playing pretty much exclusive clockwerk while chat banned. I just ping around and if people don't follow me then oh fuckin well. I'm the team fight starter and if they wanna blame me for jumping in then I'll be glad to take it. Being chat banned honestly only stops me from flaming them making bad plays.
Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8278 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-18 18:45:34
May 18 2013 18:40 GMT
#10384
yay! Playing Storm Spirit. Demolishing everyone left and right. Have a bunch of kills and tons of assists under my belt, and only one death due to our juggernaut being braindead, and managed to block me after I tried to go in and save his ass (and then He turned around and ran straight to his death anyways).

So I think "ok, I'm snowballing here. How bout an early dagger!?". First time I've tried it on storm. I buy it...and disconnect from the server. Can't reconnect..Fan-fucking-tastic!

Only decent game all week, and then Valve dumps on my head. I feel like taking a shower, hug my knees, and cry for a bit.
lizzuma
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States301 Posts
May 18 2013 20:18 GMT
#10385
why is everyone so bad at this game lol
skirmisheR
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden451 Posts
May 18 2013 21:08 GMT
#10386
People who random

holy shit i hate you all

This is a haiku
I can jungle Pudge, can you?
Belisarius
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia6233 Posts
May 19 2013 00:00 GMT
#10387
On May 19 2013 06:08 skirmisheR wrote:
People who random

holy shit i hate you all

This is a haiku


last pick random drow

when team has many carries

a furious rage

nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15846 Posts
May 19 2013 00:23 GMT
#10388
On May 19 2013 00:35 Zexion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2013 17:40 Kamakiri wrote:
On May 18 2013 16:02 itsthewoo wrote:
On May 18 2013 07:41 Kamakiri wrote:
GG can't play AP anymore because all the disgusting tryhards ruins it by picking PL, KotL every game. When is icefrog going to start caring about the public experience in dota2?

What exactly do you suggest he do? They've already added in solo mm.


How about nerfing PL since he is severly imbalanced in public dota. I get that he is fine competitively but in public he is just a poorly designed hero that requires unfair amounts of attention to have a chance of being stopped.

It seems that icefrog only cares if a hero is fine in competitive dota, resulting in heroes getting ridiculous amounts of buffs that does not necessarily make the viable in competitive, but disgusting to face in pub.

I am also against the whole concept about having incredible strong carries that are incredible hard to gang. I mean you can buy dust and sentries against PL and try to gang him, he will still have a strong chance of surviving because he can purge dust with diffblade and with his high MS he can run out of sentry range. On top of this it's a pain in the ass to find the real one in the first place.

PL is poorly designed and a failure from icefrog, it is time that he got fixed. Until then i will stop playing -AP


I'd say the real problem lies in the nature of public games, where most people refuse to play like a team. There are so many people who insist on playing solo, and that is the direct opposite of what you need to do in order to counter PL. No one wants to buy dusts/sentries even though 180/200 gold is almost nothing, especially in mid-game when everyone or at least 3 or 4 in the team can buy that stuff together. And also, carry TPs to stop him pushing everywhere. Always. You need to coordinate gangs well to stop him, and yes it's hard in public games, I know, but it doesn't mean that the hero is broken.

And also, since the whole point with All Pick is that everyone can pick any hero they feel like playing, it's only natural that you end up with terrible lanes/hero line-ups sometimes. If PL gets decent farm while your team is losing their lanes, of course it will be hard to stop him. That being said, there are also good hero counters against PL. He is far from being OP or poorly designed. Sadly, people just don't know how or don't want to deal with him in public games.

PL is very strong versus teams who don't close won games. That's the biggest (only?) difference between normal and very high, lanes won =>gather => take towers=>take rosh=>take rax=>take throne min 25. Normal game : lanes won => fight => fight =>fight, min30 let's take their T1 mid=>fight ==>fight=>min50 hey their PL/void/AM is pretty farmed=> loss
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
TheSubtleArt
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada2527 Posts
May 19 2013 02:41 GMT
#10389
On May 19 2013 02:16 Infernal_dream wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2013 02:01 TheSubtleArt wrote:
On May 19 2013 00:36 Zealos wrote:
Am I the only one that feels it is fucking completely pointless solo or dual queuing when you're chat banned? It literally involves being able to coordinate nothing all fucking game, then getting whined at by dumb pieces of shit when you try to gank a lane and they do literally nothing because you couldn't ask them to move their fat asses to help the gank?

I find going mid in general a horrible experience without a stack. Lane feeds? "gg mid didnt gank enough"


I've been playing pretty much exclusive clockwerk while chat banned. I just ping around and if people don't follow me then oh fuckin well. I'm the team fight starter and if they wanna blame me for jumping in then I'll be glad to take it. Being chat banned honestly only stops me from flaming them making bad plays.

U sound like an awesome teammate and its a huge mystery why youre chat banned
Dodge arrows
SKYFISH_
Profile Joined April 2011
Bulgaria990 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-19 04:27:58
May 19 2013 04:03 GMT
#10390
you know that your team is awful when dual golems in the middle of the fights still wont cut it.
and you have a bara charging trough half the map only to feed himself and the rest of the team in exchange for a single furi.
and when invoker fucking meteors creepwaves.
and when sand king is literally braindead
to top it off we even had a meepo pick

sigh

every time i pick warlock man
every fucking time

edit - lol the next game was a textbook stomp.
potm botm has basi ring on(this+3 tangos, legit as fuck), auto attacks creepwaves and does single pulls.
gyro is 2 minutes late to the game "what lane am i guys"" - well take a wild guess, genius. ''what happened to my money guys?" take another wild guess bro
puck mid feeds SF 0-3. when i call him out on being a feeding moron he replies "WELL MAYBE BUY WARDS NUUB"
i bought him wards
he continued to feed

thank fuck the offlane WR was a man and took an abandonment
commended him for that
In Soviet Terranistan you rush the Zerg
synd
Profile Joined July 2011
Bulgaria586 Posts
May 19 2013 06:10 GMT
#10391
I want to cry in a corner everytime I pick a support and the carry I'm supposed to babysit doesn't even care about controlling the lane.
He just auto-attacks and OCCASIONALLY gets last hits.
I always end up being the 'annoying' try-hard when I have to remind brain dead people to know even the basic things in Dota.
itsthewoo
Profile Joined October 2010
United States260 Posts
May 19 2013 07:56 GMT
#10392
On May 18 2013 23:37 packrat386 wrote:
WHY AM I SO FUCKING BAD AT THIS GAME

know what I need to do in a lot of fights, and while my knowledge isn't perfect I feel like I know how to build most of the heroes I play properly. However, every fucking time we get in a big engagement its like my goddam fingers stop working. I know what I want done, but instead of forcing my ally out of the smoke and lifting riki I manage to do something like force a creep out of the smoke and then drop a ward in it. I don't understand why my fingers don't work. So frustrating

Take a breath before teamfights occur. It's easy to get stressed out about team fights because they happen so quickly and your actions can make or break the fight for your team.

Learn from each fight. In the lull between team fights, think about your skills, their skills, and how you'd use what when (don't worry about minor skills; just the major ones). Take the extra millisecond to make sure you have your ally clicked instead of a creep. Misclicks happen, but they'll keep happening if you're too stressed out to make an accurate click.
keioh
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France1099 Posts
May 19 2013 09:16 GMT
#10393
On May 18 2013 23:37 packrat386 wrote:
WHY AM I SO FUCKING BAD AT THIS GAME

know what I need to do in a lot of fights, and while my knowledge isn't perfect I feel like I know how to build most of the heroes I play properly. However, every fucking time we get in a big engagement its like my goddam fingers stop working. I know what I want done, but instead of forcing my ally out of the smoke and lifting riki I manage to do something like force a creep out of the smoke and then drop a ward in it. I don't understand why my fingers don't work. So frustrating


I know that feel bro. Did you ever smoke then blink on a ennemy hero with Riki ? Pretty ineffective if you want my opinion.
GIMME ALL THE BELGIAN WAFFLES I CAN GET FOR THIS MONEY !!!!!! BELGIAN WAFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFLEEEEEEEEES
Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8278 Posts
May 19 2013 09:31 GMT
#10394
On May 19 2013 16:56 itsthewoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2013 23:37 packrat386 wrote:
WHY AM I SO FUCKING BAD AT THIS GAME

know what I need to do in a lot of fights, and while my knowledge isn't perfect I feel like I know how to build most of the heroes I play properly. However, every fucking time we get in a big engagement its like my goddam fingers stop working. I know what I want done, but instead of forcing my ally out of the smoke and lifting riki I manage to do something like force a creep out of the smoke and then drop a ward in it. I don't understand why my fingers don't work. So frustrating

Take a breath before teamfights occur. It's easy to get stressed out about team fights because they happen so quickly and your actions can make or break the fight for your team.

Learn from each fight. In the lull between team fights, think about your skills, their skills, and how you'd use what when (don't worry about minor skills; just the major ones). Take the extra millisecond to make sure you have your ally clicked instead of a creep. Misclicks happen, but they'll keep happening if you're too stressed out to make an accurate click.


Also note that this is something that gets better the more you play (and it helps if you keep it in mind as it happens), and that it can happen to anyone when things gets exciting. Even Dendi at the International 2
packrat386
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States5077 Posts
May 19 2013 10:43 GMT
#10395
Thanks for all the advice everyone

Now back to your regularly scheduled qq.
I don't understand why peoole take so long to pick. I wait because I like to play support and so I want to get a little synergy with our carries. However there are so many people that wait til just before the creep wave starts and then pick something brainless like axe when we already have 3 melee carries. Clearly they werent thinking about the team, so why wait so goddam long?

In haiku

Pick a fucking hero
Jesus christ its not that hard
The creeps have now spawned -_-
dreaming of a sunny day
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
May 19 2013 10:55 GMT
#10396
Zeus takes hard lane
Our pleads were ignored
First blood
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15846 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-19 11:03:40
May 19 2013 11:01 GMT
#10397
Is it me or the number of people muted is increasing those days? It was around 1 2 every game at the beginning but now that one week bans starts kicking in it's more around 3 4 muted people per game. I hope the 2 reports/week will change this...

edit for post above : random draft I pick zeus as first pick, last picks goes TA, I'm forced to go hard lane, indeed first blood TT He fed so hard as TA he ragequits and take the abandon, he flamecd our razor who was with me hardlane for finishing is sb late (yeah shitty item choice I agree) but he did not even complete his first big item at the time. LoL
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
Goozen
Profile Joined February 2012
Israel701 Posts
May 19 2013 11:07 GMT
#10398
Yes, pick pudge and a cent when we have a weaver, AM and bat, i'm sure the lack of wards and terrible lanes won't matter at all....
Zealos
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom3576 Posts
May 19 2013 12:24 GMT
#10399
On May 19 2013 11:41 TheSubtleArt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2013 02:16 Infernal_dream wrote:
On May 19 2013 02:01 TheSubtleArt wrote:
On May 19 2013 00:36 Zealos wrote:
Am I the only one that feels it is fucking completely pointless solo or dual queuing when you're chat banned? It literally involves being able to coordinate nothing all fucking game, then getting whined at by dumb pieces of shit when you try to gank a lane and they do literally nothing because you couldn't ask them to move their fat asses to help the gank?

I find going mid in general a horrible experience without a stack. Lane feeds? "gg mid didnt gank enough"


I've been playing pretty much exclusive clockwerk while chat banned. I just ping around and if people don't follow me then oh fuckin well. I'm the team fight starter and if they wanna blame me for jumping in then I'll be glad to take it. Being chat banned honestly only stops me from flaming them making bad plays.

U sound like an awesome teammate and its a huge mystery why youre chat banned

What else can he do?
On the internet if you disagree with or dislike something you're angry and taking it too seriously. == Join TLMafia !
BlitzerSC
Profile Joined May 2011
Italy8800 Posts
May 19 2013 12:32 GMT
#10400
Chat bans are stupid, I agree.
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