EPTDota 2 QQ thread - Page 467
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duckmaster
687 Posts
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Excludos
Norway8278 Posts
On April 21 2013 22:05 duckmaster wrote: god fucking damnit when will they fix the unit selection its like the game engine is my enemy or something, so tired of this What do you mean? | ||
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Thienan567
United States670 Posts
Unit selection and micro in this game is really awkward, like super wtf inducing if you've ever played war3 or sc. I think the boxing in this game is pretty flawed, as is the pathing. Think it's because source engine usually doesn't cater to rts so it's wierd. | ||
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Excludos
Norway8278 Posts
On April 22 2013 01:00 Thienan567 wrote: Unit selection and micro in this game is really awkward, like super wtf inducing if you've ever played war3 or sc. I think the boxing in this game is pretty flawed, as is the pathing. Think it's because source engine usually doesn't cater to rts so it's wierd. I play sc2 in master league, and I think the unit selection and micro in dota 2 is pretty good if you don't fumble. You can box your units, place them on hotkeys (1 to 6 for me), and you can tab through your selection like you can in sc2. The pathing is different than other games, but done on purpose. For instance, if there is an invisible unit blocking your path, your hero will still try to go the regular path before realising something is blocking him, and then go around. In sc2 the units would just go around from the start, somehow "knowing" there's something there. | ||
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GentleDrill
United Kingdom672 Posts
Something like this: it has to be at least half covered by the box in Dota2, whereas in every other sensible RTS if they're even touching the box at all they get selected. I definitely find it an issue when playing Enigma, box selecting Eidolons is the most fucking annoying thing ever (I don't play Chen or Ench but it's probably even worse for them since the creeps are bigger than Eidolons). | ||
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Excludos
Norway8278 Posts
On April 22 2013 01:35 GentleDrill wrote: The issue (as I've seen others talking about it) is that the rule for how a unit needs to be overlapping your selection box in order to be selected is different. Something like this: it has to be at least half covered by the box in Dota2, whereas in every other sensible RTS if they're even touching the box at all they get selected. I definitely find it an issue when playing Enigma, box selecting Eidolons is the most fucking annoying thing ever (I don't play Chen or Ench but it's probably even worse for them since the creeps are bigger than Eidolons). This could be true, but somehow I have not had any issues with this..and my favorite hero is enigma, and I play chen often =| Maybe I just make boxes to cover the units completely in all games anyways or something. It's also very possible that you can change this with a console command, as you can with almost anything else. | ||
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evilfatsh1t
Australia8916 Posts
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Infernal_dream
United States2359 Posts
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Whole
United States6046 Posts
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SupLilSon
Malaysia4123 Posts
On April 22 2013 02:39 Whole wrote: Was playing all pick. Bristleback, Pudge, Skywrath. Pretty good team so far. One guy asks what he should play. I say a ranged support would be the safest pick. He picks Jakiro. Nice, now we could just use someone to go in the hard lane with either Jakiro or Skywrath. Last guy picks Riki. Ehh, I can make Bristleback work in hard lane. Riki is level 5 at 16 minutes in. His final items were brown boots, PMS, and the intelligence part of diffusal blade at 25 minutes when he abandoned. X_X loool that was me and some noob friends. I thought we might even lose the game at one point because I was lagging so hard but I saw riki's items and knew it'd be ok | ||
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AbuseYouMerc
Netherlands171 Posts
On April 22 2013 02:39 Whole wrote: Was playing all pick. Bristleback, Pudge, Skywrath. Pretty good team so far. One guy asks what he should play. I say a ranged support would be the safest pick. He picks Jakiro. Nice, now we could just use someone to go in the hard lane with either Jakiro or Skywrath. Last guy picks Riki. Ehh, I can make Bristleback work in hard lane. Riki is level 5 at 16 minutes in. His final items were brown boots, PMS, and the intelligence part of diffusal blade at 25 minutes when he abandoned. X_X Haha that riki sounds like the dumbass I had to suffer in AR. Speaking of that game, When a doom goes a whopping 218 GPM and your 'carry' drow cant go higher then 258, you know you're going to lose hard. and riki had 208. GG NO RE. | ||
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Whole
United States6046 Posts
On April 22 2013 03:21 SupLilSon wrote: loool that was me and some noob friends. I thought we might even lose the game at one point because I was lagging so hard but I saw riki's items and knew it'd be ok lol, what heroes were you playing? | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25562 Posts
Despite the fact that he won't leave, I am unfazed. I have a pub-proof strat where if the mid comes to steal my farm, I go farm the jungle. I go to the jungle and start fighting two mud golems. Things are going pretty well when NS shows up again. He walks into the camp and gets the last hit on both of the mud golems I'm working on. It's not like he was also autoattacking them or something, he waited until they were very low then took them. Okay, okay, that's really sucky, but at least top is pushed in, and there's no-one there. I use my teleport to get there and start static farming the wave. Things are going pretty ok, and NS goes mid and gets a kill. Awesome. Then he comes top, and starts pushing the wave. He's got his armlet on, and I can't get any last hits, not in my lane, not in the jungle, not even here. My rage is unending like the stormy oceans of the ancient world: here there be dragons. Ultimately, I don't think the stolen farm lost us the game, but there's a special kind of player who not only steals the carry's farm, but follows said carry into the jungle and steals the last-hits there, then follows the carry to another lane to take the farm there. Since he wasn't abusing anything, and he was friendly enough in chat even as I protested that I needed to be able to farm SOMEWHERE, there was nothing I could report him for-- there is no report for being bad. And even so, I'm not really sure he was really bad. After all, Night Stalker can do some decent damage, and he ended up getting a fast armlet and urn and so on. Maybe in his mind, you can't possibly trust any pubs, especially not a pub who picks spectre. Since he was probably solo queuing, he grabbed a mid ganker who can scale and decided to kill constantly and steal any farm he could and try to solo win the entire game, beginning middle and end. It's not the worst philosophy, it's just one that bothers other players. And maybe he was right! But as the guy whose farm was taken I QQ nonetheless. | ||
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
It's automatic too, can't even cuss or say "idiot play" | ||
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nymfaw
Norway430 Posts
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Quotidian
Norway1937 Posts
On April 22 2013 05:21 Torte de Lini wrote: Autobanned from talking, how long does it last? 24 hours? It's automatic too, can't even cuss or say "idiot play" apparently, first ban 1 day, second ban 2 days, third ban 7.. and considering I've probably already been reported a second time for not calling ss (which you're conveniently not able to do because of the automated mute) I'm basically not touching the game again until they've hotfixed this garbage system | ||
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SXGCoil
United States341 Posts
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Belisarius
Australia6233 Posts
On April 22 2013 05:21 Torte de Lini wrote: Autobanned from talking, how long does it last? 24 hours? It's automatic too, can't even cuss or say "idiot play" Wait really? As in, when other games would filter text (which I find infuriating enough), valve actually auto-bans you? Holy shit. Who thought this garbage up? | ||
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AFKPuezo
183 Posts
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa i hate that hero | ||
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lazyitachi
1043 Posts
Flames are especially strong when I am teamed with stacks You must be doing something really wrong or nasty to get to THAT stage... | ||
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