EPTDota 2 QQ thread - Page 426
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aintz
Canada5624 Posts
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-Celestial-
United Kingdom3867 Posts
I go support laning with Riki vs solo Broodmother. Bought Sentry wards and Observers all game. Totally shut Broodmother down, helped Riki get a few ganks on her. Babysat him so he could get nicely farmed. I'm deliberately not taking kills, giving them all to other players. All that good stuff. We absolutely dominated. Forward a bit, teamfights. Constantly totally disabling their Ursa. We absolutely wreck him multiple times despite him picking up a couple of Aegis'. Doesn't matter, Fiend's Grip so strong. We start to manage strong teamfights despite blink Earthshaker and Disruptor on the other team. Really good coordination and synergy in many cases. I'm getting picked off first a LOT (squishy, squishy) but it doesn't matter since we usually win the teamfights and its usually after I've already temporarily neutralised one of them for a while with Fiend's Grip. Fast forward to the end. We win. Riki on 211 last hits and commends me for the support in lane. Earthshaker on the other team: "Your Bane and our Broodmother were so bad, but Bane has disable to fall back on and Broodmother had nothing. GG"  Value of support is so underrated by some people. As is the way people have no idea how Broodmother works with a team (she'd been constantly split pushing just fine). On March 26 2013 19:32 Ricjames wrote: Maybe that is because i started to play all pick again. I guess no more all pick for me. I never play All Pick unless I'm with friends who won't play anything else. Had one game last night where a couple of them dragged me into a game. I'm on about 450 games played whereas both of them have less than 100. Other team instalocks Sniper/Drow. Of course we crushed them (I just spent the whole game messing about suicide ganking Drow in the middle of their team as Nyx for the fun of it, so satisfying). But still...it shows why I don't play AP. On March 26 2013 20:01 Narw wrote: I'm usually the "last pick" guy who waits for teammates to pick all lanes so im sure that lane up will have any kind of remote sense. Decided for a change to just pick first and see if rest of guys can adjust and try to make not completly uber fucking bad lanes. After 5 games i can tell you that offlane Slark is bad, Alchemist Naix and Lycan don't exactly have great synergy and AM/Nyx will have great problems doing anything against offensive trilane. I once offlaned Slark and carried the game. >_> | ||
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Belisarius
Australia6233 Posts
On March 26 2013 20:30 Lightspeaker wrote: + Show Spoiler + All Random. I get Bane. Eh. Bane is good but I don't really play it. But whatever. I go support laning with Riki vs solo Broodmother. Bought Sentry wards and Observers all game. Totally shut Broodmother down, helped Riki get a few ganks on her. Babysat him so he could get nicely farmed. I'm deliberately not taking kills, giving them all to other players. All that good stuff. We absolutely dominated. Forward a bit, teamfights. Constantly totally disabling their Ursa. We absolutely wreck him multiple times despite him picking up a couple of Aegis'. Doesn't matter, Fiend's Grip so strong. We start to manage strong teamfights despite blink Earthshaker and Disruptor on the other team. Really good coordination and synergy in many cases. I'm getting picked off first a LOT (squishy, squishy) but it doesn't matter since we usually win the teamfights and its usually after I've already temporarily neutralised one of them for a while with Fiend's Grip. Fast forward to the end. We win. Riki on 211 last hits and commends me for the support in lane. Earthshaker on the other team: "Your Bane and our Broodmother were so bad, but Bane has disable to fall back on and Broodmother had nothing. GG" Value of support is so underrated by some people. As is the way people have no idea how Broodmother works with a team (she'd been constantly split pushing just fine). On March 26 2013 19:32 Ricjames wrote: Maybe that is because i started to play all pick again. I guess no more all pick for me. I never play All Pick unless I'm with friends who won't play anything else. Had one game last night where a couple of them dragged me into a game. I'm on about 450 games played whereas both of them have less than 100. Other team instalocks Sniper/Drow. Of course we crushed them (I just spent the whole game messing about suicide ganking Drow in the middle of their team as Nyx for the fun of it, so satisfying). But still...it shows why I don't play AP. On March 26 2013 20:01 Narw wrote: I'm usually the "last pick" guy who waits for teammates to pick all lanes so im sure that lane up will have any kind of remote sense. Decided for a change to just pick first and see if rest of guys can adjust and try to make not completly uber fucking bad lanes. After 5 games i can tell you that offlane Slark is bad, Alchemist Naix and Lycan don't exactly have great synergy and AM/Nyx will have great problems doing anything against offensive trilane. I once offlaned Slark and carried the game. >_> That's a mighty big brag post in the QQ thread y'got there, matey | ||
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Jetaap
France4814 Posts
Despite that I managed to "win" my lane (traded kills, went 3-2 during laning and got a pretty big level advantage. But no during that time rubick died twice to luna mid, same for drow and wisp who died something like 5 time between them. Of course our NP is underfarmed. Did I mention that drow went morbid mask first item and never skilled her orb? And that I had to buy wards? Meanwhile opposing team was doing smoke ganks... Seriously first time in a long while I actually flamed my teamates, it was infuriating (of course they were blaming me)? edit QQ cure: I played another game of CK and stomped a PL in a 40 min game, feels good :D. (the damage output once you have manta/armlet + your ult and slardar's amplify damage is so insane :D. Despite my bad luck with him I'm really starting to start this hero. | ||
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FuzzyJAM
Scotland9300 Posts
OH GOD WHY DID I PLAY WITH NEW FRIENDS AND LOSE ALL THE TIME SO I GOT PUT IN ULTRA TRASH CAN TIER? | ||
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PassiveAce
United States18076 Posts
On the bright side you can pick stomp heroes for the next 5 or so games until your back. | ||
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FuzzyJAM
Scotland9300 Posts
Could just pick SF and go mid every game I guess. Or maybe OD. Hm. . . | ||
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PassiveAce
United States18076 Posts
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Talron
Germany7651 Posts
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BurningSera
Ireland19621 Posts
On March 26 2013 23:04 PassiveAce wrote: never play with new friends on your main account. ever. On the bright side you can pick stomp heroes for the next 5 or so games until your back. Yup, some seriously 'unfun' would happen if you did and it is not even funny >_> The thing is I have probably experienced through all the adjustment of mm: It used to be stacking = win in MM, total game count doesn't matter. People whined hard on dev forum. It then used to be stacking = 50/50 winning, that these games are hopelessly side-sided one way or another after you played for 10mins in you realized the skill levels of the oppo team is either too high or too low. It is now stacking = <50% winning or game very hard. That amazing experience of having nobody in team willing to do the minimal support while the oppo team counter wards since the start, as if MM was testing your sanity rofl (and yes i needed to fcking buy vision for myself). And when you queue with new friend/s the mm gone completely haywired, it used to be 50/50 but now is hard game awaits no matter what. They probably further increased the bonus mmr when people stack now (due to the massive whine on dev forum). However, it is still the same if you could get 4/5 decent players who know exactly what/how to do in a game, you are likely to win the game, so I am not sure who the hell benefit from the whole mm adjustment. Even solo queue people will still get one sided games very often. I used to queue with 'casual friends' from time to time but not anymore because we all know game would be hard if we queued together, they actually play less now because of that. Maybe is time to make a 3rd smurf but i am too damn lazy -_- | ||
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aintz
Canada5624 Posts
mmr bonus when stacking is nonfactor on whether we win or lose. having fun and throwing games is a major factor on why we lose. | ||
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BigO
Sweden956 Posts
On March 26 2013 23:18 PassiveAce wrote: I bet you could stomp a game as offlane ds or something. But there is no way in hell that you are getting a solo lane anywhere but mid if your in the bottom mmr. Just pick sf and go mid until your up against players that you cant 1v5 First game on my smurf account was just ridicoulous, went something like 22-2 with an alch solo off-lane and had like 1200 gpm. Felt like shit afterwards cause I probably ruined someones first dota experience. | ||
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Khz
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hooahah
3752 Posts
On March 26 2013 23:51 Khz wrote: Just got manhandled by a PL and KotL combo second time in a row and it's starting to get depressing. There was some amusement though in the form of our Invoker who said he would go for a quas build before the game started. At the time I didn't think much of it and only 30 minutes later while PL is destroying our base do I check his build, which literally was every point in quas except 1 for wex and 1 for exort. I've seen some stupid shit in the few hundred games I've played but this one takes the cake. I can even somewhat understand why people go for a bfury on BH or something equally dumb but I can't even imagine how he thought that was actually going to work. It wasn't in some offlane or support role either. cold snap like a BOSS but ya bad build for invoker. Still doesn't match the dumbest build I've seen which was bloodstone on OD. I've tried and the only build I can think of that is dumber is refresher on timbersaw. | ||
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Thienan567
United States670 Posts
On March 27 2013 00:29 hooahah wrote: cold snap like a BOSS but ya bad build for invoker. Still doesn't match the dumbest build I've seen which was bloodstone on OD. I've tried and the only build I can think of that is dumber is refresher on timbersaw. WHY For my qq, not mine because yesterday I got a nice team, but for my friend. Queue on US east, get a team that speaks only spanish. And he's ck vs drow and naix. Entire other team gets shadowblade and the cm buys gem and loses it immediately. game goes to 60 min...yyyeeeeeaaahhh buddy | ||
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unkkz
Norway2196 Posts
I´m mid as luna vs bloodseeker, easy peasy. I first blood him on level 6 while he´s still level 4 since he just dives me with no other targets around while using silence on himself so like... lol press R for free gold. I type "lol" in all chat because even he has to realize how dumb he was. Fast forward a few minutes and he's lvl 7 and im 8 or 9ish. He starts moving forward very confidently so i know something is up, move towards my tower and he ults me. Then slark shows up along with rubick and i'm pinging like mad but nobody TP´s in and i die despite some good juking around and getting my ulti off. This is where i get so mad. BS types "lol poor luna so noob" in all chat. Yeah, three people dive me with BS ult and nobody TP´s to help, im so bad right. This happens several times after this, BS just goes for me in the dumbest of places but he has 2-3 people with him so obviously i get shit on, and then he flames in all chat. And still, nobody TP's in. His flaming gets to me and i yell at my CM + 2 other supports to carry some goddamn TP´s to save the carrys ass once in a while. Their response is "lol stop feeding noob you only farm never gank". So CM + AM i think it was loses top lane to solo broodmother DESPITE BUYING SENTRIES WTF HOW DO YOU LOOSE?! And i go 100% rice mode in our woods but its too late and we loose a rather even game which would´ve been a complete stomp had i just gotten some actual support once or twice. | ||
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Thienan567
United States670 Posts
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
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Corr
Denmark796 Posts
Luna takes so little mechanical effort to play that you can put nearly all your focus on to making the correct decisions that lets you snowball into that ~25 min mark 150-200 CS Luna that is too far ahead to be stopped. | ||
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SKYFISH_
Bulgaria990 Posts
On March 27 2013 00:29 hooahah wrote: cold snap like a BOSS but ya bad build for invoker. Still doesn't match the dumbest build I've seen which was bloodstone on OD. I've tried and the only build I can think of that is dumber is refresher on timbersaw. i have to start writing down the dumb hero builds i've seen in this game. my qq im 10-3 in the last page of games, which means a 3-15 loss streak is on its way tt also, the client is buggy as shit again | ||
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