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Please remember that while this thread is for QQ and venting about the game, racism is not tolerated here on LD.
Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14828 Posts
March 12 2013 09:01 GMT
#7941
On March 12 2013 16:51 Firebolt145 wrote:
What's with the obsession with 50% win rate

Totally not just saying this because I'm stuck at 48%

Dunno.
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
yrt123
Profile Joined October 2012
Singapore1246 Posts
March 12 2013 09:41 GMT
#7942
On March 12 2013 17:50 VelJa wrote:
9 loss streak, retard allys etc
but i become like them, i rage, i play poorly, i stay focus on my line =/
It's like zombie, if u stay too much with them, u become like them


Contagious noobs. lol
deichkind
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden347 Posts
March 12 2013 10:02 GMT
#7943
0/10 bat mid

thanks

and ofc he gets a rare drop wooo

that drop aint random, refuse to believe it the worse you play the more chance you have to get a drop im certain
dartoo
Profile Joined May 2010
India2889 Posts
March 12 2013 10:05 GMT
#7944
On March 12 2013 18:01 Shaella wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2013 16:51 Firebolt145 wrote:
What's with the obsession with 50% win rate

Totally not just saying this because I'm stuck at 48%

Dunno.



Nothing really, just a nice feeling to know you've equalized your losses or gone ahead.

There are some people who also believe that the high/very high brackets start from 50% win rate..although I dont think this is true, I've seen people making threads,saying they got to very high with a 30% win rate.

maru~
Profile Joined February 2013
2345 Posts
March 12 2013 10:48 GMT
#7945
On March 12 2013 19:05 dartoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2013 18:01 Shaella wrote:
On March 12 2013 16:51 Firebolt145 wrote:
What's with the obsession with 50% win rate

Totally not just saying this because I'm stuck at 48%

Dunno.



Nothing really, just a nice feeling to know you've equalized your losses or gone ahead.

There are some people who also believe that the high/very high brackets start from 50% win rate..although I dont think this is true, I've seen people making threads,saying they got to very high with a 30% win rate.


The so-called "very high" bracket is a joke.
ReignSupreme.
Profile Blog Joined September 2012
Australia4123 Posts
March 12 2013 10:56 GMT
#7946
On March 12 2013 19:05 dartoo wrote:
There are some people who also believe that the high/very high brackets start from 50% win rate.



There are thousands of people above and below 50% win rate across all brackets.
hooahah
Profile Joined October 2011
3752 Posts
March 12 2013 11:01 GMT
#7947
On March 12 2013 19:02 deichkind wrote:
0/10 bat mid

thanks

and ofc he gets a rare drop wooo

that drop aint random, refuse to believe it the worse you play the more chance you have to get a drop im certain


yeah, I've noticed this too. The worse you play, the more likely you are to get an item. Which makes sense, since if you lose (badly) you're less likely to keep playing - one way to prevent that is to give you a rare item so you'd keep playing.
BoxingKangaroo
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Japan955 Posts
March 12 2013 11:18 GMT
#7948
On March 12 2013 20:01 hooahah wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2013 19:02 deichkind wrote:
0/10 bat mid

thanks

and ofc he gets a rare drop wooo

that drop aint random, refuse to believe it the worse you play the more chance you have to get a drop im certain


yeah, I've noticed this too. The worse you play, the more likely you are to get an item. Which makes sense, since if you lose (badly) you're less likely to keep playing - one way to prevent that is to give you a rare item so you'd keep playing.


This is probably just confirmation bias. The bad players that get good items stick out in your memory, the good players that get good items dont.
maru~
Profile Joined February 2013
2345 Posts
March 12 2013 11:20 GMT
#7949
Are you sure it's not just confirmation bias?
Delphiki
Profile Joined October 2012
Philippines1955 Posts
March 12 2013 11:54 GMT
#7950
On March 12 2013 16:51 Firebolt145 wrote:
What's with the obsession with 50% win rate

Totally not just saying this because I'm stuck at 48%

Some are just really competitive.
I mean, I am winning 50% of my games(though i'm only at level 10) but I'm still not that content

But to be honest win rates don't equate to your skill since Dota is a team game
majava
Profile Joined May 2012
Finland248 Posts
March 12 2013 12:01 GMT
#7951
On March 12 2013 19:48 maru~ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2013 19:05 dartoo wrote:
On March 12 2013 18:01 Shaella wrote:
On March 12 2013 16:51 Firebolt145 wrote:
What's with the obsession with 50% win rate

Totally not just saying this because I'm stuck at 48%

Dunno.



Nothing really, just a nice feeling to know you've equalized your losses or gone ahead.

There are some people who also believe that the high/very high brackets start from 50% win rate..although I dont think this is true, I've seen people making threads,saying they got to very high with a 30% win rate.


The so-called "very high" bracket is a joke.


Guy in normal bracket spotted!
BoxingKangaroo
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Japan955 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-12 13:20:35
March 12 2013 12:08 GMT
#7952
Good player, good drop (meh, deserved it)
Good player, bad drop (too bad)
Bad player, bad drop (good, deserved it)
Bad player, good drop (WTF!!!?? Fuck you Valve!!!!!)

Confirmation bias.


Edit: My bad, can't read.
maru~
Profile Joined February 2013
2345 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-12 12:12:59
March 12 2013 12:11 GMT
#7953
On March 12 2013 21:08 BoxingKangaroo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2013 20:20 maru~ wrote:
Are you sure it's not just confirmation bias?


No. But I think it's much more likely that a player succumbed to a common logical fallacy than Valve actually rigging the drops.

Until some player can show me some stats of their games that they've recorded that show some bias, then I'll continue to think that way.

Which of these events is most memorable:

Good player, good drop (meh, deserved it)
Good player, bad drop (too bad)
Bad player, bad drop (good, deserved it)
Bad player, good drop (WTF!!!?? Fuck you Valve!!!!!)

Confirmation bias.

I wasn't replying to you (notice the "not" in my question). We meant the same thing, I just didn't see your post when I made mine.
Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8257 Posts
March 12 2013 12:12 GMT
#7954
On March 12 2013 21:08 BoxingKangaroo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2013 20:20 maru~ wrote:
Are you sure it's not just confirmation bias?


No. But I think it's much more likely that a player succumbed to a common logical fallacy than Valve actually rigging the drops.

Until some player can show me some stats of their games that they've recorded that show some bias, then I'll continue to think that way.

Which of these events is most memorable:

Good player, good drop (meh, deserved it)
Good player, bad drop (too bad)
Bad player, bad drop (good, deserved it)
Bad player, good drop (WTF!!!?? Fuck you Valve!!!!!)

Confirmation bias.


I skip the drop phase as fast as possibly nowadays. Can't stand watching the worst player on the losing team get a unique legendary courier or something. And you're right, it sticks out because they're bad, but I'm fairly sure its completely random (which, for me, means never anything useful).
FetTerBender
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany1393 Posts
March 12 2013 12:16 GMT
#7955
On March 12 2013 21:12 Excludos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2013 21:08 BoxingKangaroo wrote:
On March 12 2013 20:20 maru~ wrote:
Are you sure it's not just confirmation bias?


No. But I think it's much more likely that a player succumbed to a common logical fallacy than Valve actually rigging the drops.

Until some player can show me some stats of their games that they've recorded that show some bias, then I'll continue to think that way.

Which of these events is most memorable:

Good player, good drop (meh, deserved it)
Good player, bad drop (too bad)
Bad player, bad drop (good, deserved it)
Bad player, good drop (WTF!!!?? Fuck you Valve!!!!!)

Confirmation bias.


I skip the drop phase as fast as possibly nowadays. Can't stand watching the worst player on the losing team get a unique legendary courier or something. And you're right, it sticks out because they're bad, but I'm fairly sure its completely random (which, for me, means never anything useful).


In Germany, we have a saying: Die dümmsten Bauern ernten die dicksten Kartoffeln.

Translated roughly: The dumbest farmers harvest the best potatoes.
There's a fine line between bravery and stupidity.
Narcind
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Sweden2489 Posts
March 12 2013 12:16 GMT
#7956
Well, I've seen a REALLY shit furion get an unusual speed demon once, but at the same time, I've gotten some pretty cool items, both when playing quite well and really shit, so it's just random. I do seem to get better items from leveling up than from drops, though.
VelJa
Profile Joined October 2011
France1109 Posts
March 12 2013 14:03 GMT
#7957
On March 12 2013 18:41 yrt123 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2013 17:50 VelJa wrote:
9 loss streak, retard allys etc
but i become like them, i rage, i play poorly, i stay focus on my line =/
It's like zombie, if u stay too much with them, u become like them


Contagious noobs. lol

damn this is scary
ANGRY_KOREA_MAN. -- Giff WC4 plz
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
March 12 2013 14:41 GMT
#7958
Man, Pub losing streaks are so depressing.

Random a carry, team picks 3 more carries and a windrunner. Then they say "meh we lost 4 carries" and don't even try.

Next game, I pick a nice happy support and my PL goes Diffusal first (OK), then upgrades it immediately (WTF?), then starts building a vlads. Fortunately I save us from the indignity of a vlad's PL, but when his 60 minute farm is Diffusal 2 and Manta (at least he bought tranquils?) game was hard (aka we lost).

Every game yesterday was some dumb variation on that. The 15-minute midas invoker. The MoM sniper (first item).

I also lost to TheEmulator yesterday but I blame that game on my friend the lifestealer who wouldn't come farm the lane...
LiquidDota StaffSCIENTISTS BAFFLED | 3275929302
danl9rm
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States3111 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-12 15:22:44
March 12 2013 15:21 GMT
#7959
On March 11 2013 04:26 Firebolt145 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2013 01:36 alffla wrote:
ever since i started 'learning' dota2 more srsly, i've been exclusively playing support heroes, and now that i want to try play some carries instead, everytime i pick a carry my whole team picks carries and we have like no supports dafuq.

Play with friends ^_^


Don't listen to him. Playing with friends is worse. As easy as you think it is to just "not die" and only "feed a little," your friends will show you just how wrong you are. And then, they will do it again.

edit: And then, they will blame you for not ganking. And then, you will find yourself driving down the road at 2am just to push that guy down the nearest flight of stairs.
"Science has so well established that the preborn baby in the womb is a living human being that most pro-choice activists have conceded the point. ..since the abortion proponents have lost the science argument, they are now advocating an existential one."
ForTheDream
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany1780 Posts
March 12 2013 15:50 GMT
#7960
On March 12 2013 21:01 majava wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2013 19:48 maru~ wrote:
On March 12 2013 19:05 dartoo wrote:
On March 12 2013 18:01 Shaella wrote:
On March 12 2013 16:51 Firebolt145 wrote:
What's with the obsession with 50% win rate

Totally not just saying this because I'm stuck at 48%

Dunno.



Nothing really, just a nice feeling to know you've equalized your losses or gone ahead.

There are some people who also believe that the high/very high brackets start from 50% win rate..although I dont think this is true, I've seen people making threads,saying they got to very high with a 30% win rate.


The so-called "very high" bracket is a joke.


Guy in normal bracket spotted!

guy in very high tells you it is still a joke...
matches are still super random to actually match/team with good players
In BurNIng we trust.
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