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Please remember that while this thread is for QQ and venting about the game, racism is not tolerated here on LD.
yrt123
Profile Joined October 2012
Singapore1246 Posts
February 13 2013 08:27 GMT
#7041
On February 13 2013 17:04 eu.exodus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2013 15:01 DR.Ham wrote:
Pop Quiz!

Your team: Medusa, Natures Prophet, Bounty Hunter, Rubick and Visage.

How do you pick you lanes?

Probably not like this:

+ Show Spoiler +

Hard Lane:
Rubick

Mid:
Natures Prophet

Easy Lane:
Bounty Hunter (I need the farm idiots) and Visage

Jungle:
Medusa


Rubick fed a Centaur 6 kills in 6 minutes. GG.

Fuck pubs.


all random game.

how would you lane:

bounty hunter, slardar, rubick, lina, furion?

my instinct tells me slardar + lina top. Bounty hunter solo suicide, furion jungle, rubick mid. I am however a "noop American pig Slardar" (from South Africa) and the correct way is
+ Show Spoiler +
slardar solo safe lane against kunka + sniper, lina mid, bounty hunter + rubick hard lane and rage when the person with the best chance of carrying the game can't farm.


Too many people think that safe lane should be solo with a jungler in team because jungle is nearer to safe lane so easier to help the lane. But most of the time jungler just does his thing and the solo gets bent over again and again.

QQ: Supports contesting me for last hit when I'm carry and also being contested by enemy team because 'if you're good you'll get them anyways'. Guess I suck.
evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8916 Posts
February 13 2013 09:01 GMT
#7042
went hardlane with aa supporting a pl
pl doesnt use his spell at all so we miss so many easy kills
meanwhile he bought a qb first so got harrassed like crazy and just dies to morphs waveform
then he buys nothing for 25mins because hes rushing a radiance. so he literally walked around with a qb and 3 branches for 25mins.
same game, potm is farming bot for like 15mins but somehow ends up with no items and feeds all game. and we have a lycan who wasnt the best either. WHY AM I GETTING MATCHED UP WITH PLAYERS WHO SHOULD BE IN THE NORMAL POOL
VelJa
Profile Joined October 2011
France1109 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-13 09:05:24
February 13 2013 09:04 GMT
#7043
Try to play CM yesterday
Captain Rus, can't speak an english word.
I don't even want to talk about ban/picks

i was sooooo nervous omg

edit : BEST PART : captain leave after realizing he can't pick drow
ANGRY_KOREA_MAN. -- Giff WC4 plz
hooahah
Profile Joined October 2011
3752 Posts
February 13 2013 09:29 GMT
#7044
On February 13 2013 18:04 VelJa wrote:
Try to play CM yesterday
Captain Rus, can't speak an english word.
I don't even want to talk about ban/picks

i was sooooo nervous omg

edit : BEST PART : captain leave after realizing he can't pick drow


russian dota in a nutshell
Kinch
Profile Joined August 2010
United States258 Posts
February 13 2013 09:33 GMT
#7045
On February 13 2013 18:04 VelJa wrote:
Try to play CM yesterday
Captain Rus, can't speak an english word.
I don't even want to talk about ban/picks

i was sooooo nervous omg

edit : BEST PART : captain leave after realizing he can't pick drow


Ha ha! This totally justified me reading too much of this thread. Thanks.

OK, here's a QQ: Why do players think that being invisible, by itself, helps? So tired of teammates going invisible in random places to just stand there ... being invisible. Hehe, they can't see me! Look, he ran right past me! Ha ha!
VelJa
Profile Joined October 2011
France1109 Posts
February 13 2013 09:46 GMT
#7046
On February 13 2013 18:33 Kinch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2013 18:04 VelJa wrote:
Try to play CM yesterday
Captain Rus, can't speak an english word.
I don't even want to talk about ban/picks

i was sooooo nervous omg

edit : BEST PART : captain leave after realizing he can't pick drow


Ha ha! This totally justified me reading too much of this thread. Thanks.

OK, here's a QQ: Why do players think that being invisible, by itself, helps? So tired of teammates going invisible in random places to just stand there ... being invisible. Hehe, they can't see me! Look, he ran right past me! Ha ha!


YUP! This happens all the time when random go lothar edge and buy first the Shadow amulet :D
ANGRY_KOREA_MAN. -- Giff WC4 plz
Ricjames
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Czech Republic1047 Posts
February 13 2013 10:40 GMT
#7047
I queued for a captain mode with my friend yesterday. When we connected, i started to write suggestions to our captain looking for some discussion regarding bans and picks. The captain has chosen 2 bans and 2 heroes without discussing anything. When i demanded some communication, he just wrote la-la-la music into chat and then proceeded to do whatever he wanted.

What kind of behaviour is that? I understand that he can be skilled and knows good hero combinatons and counters, but he actually wasted time and ruined the game for other 9 players, because 4 people got heroes they didn't want and can't play that well which results into a shitty game, which does not benefit anyone.

Well yeah, FUCK THAT DOUCHE.. sorry i had to vent, i wold probably stomp his face if i met him at that moment.
Brood War is the best RTS that has ever been created.
Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8277 Posts
February 13 2013 10:46 GMT
#7048
On February 13 2013 17:27 yrt123 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2013 17:04 eu.exodus wrote:
On February 13 2013 15:01 DR.Ham wrote:
Pop Quiz!

Your team: Medusa, Natures Prophet, Bounty Hunter, Rubick and Visage.

How do you pick you lanes?

Probably not like this:

+ Show Spoiler +

Hard Lane:
Rubick

Mid:
Natures Prophet

Easy Lane:
Bounty Hunter (I need the farm idiots) and Visage

Jungle:
Medusa


Rubick fed a Centaur 6 kills in 6 minutes. GG.

Fuck pubs.


all random game.

how would you lane:

bounty hunter, slardar, rubick, lina, furion?

my instinct tells me slardar + lina top. Bounty hunter solo suicide, furion jungle, rubick mid. I am however a "noop American pig Slardar" (from South Africa) and the correct way is
+ Show Spoiler +
slardar solo safe lane against kunka + sniper, lina mid, bounty hunter + rubick hard lane and rage when the person with the best chance of carrying the game can't farm.


Too many people think that safe lane should be solo with a jungler in team because jungle is nearer to safe lane so easier to help the lane. But most of the time jungler just does his thing and the solo gets bent over again and again.

QQ: Supports contesting me for last hit when I'm carry and also being contested by enemy team because 'if you're good you'll get them anyways'. Guess I suck.


You need to realise that if you can't get any farm as the carry, you're just an idiot, despite of whatever reason you weren't able to do so..like rubbish lanes, teammates feeding, no teamwork, no one TPs when you get ganked after running past 2 of your own towers, no wards, etc.
(Also, the words they're using is generally not "idiot". Its more in the lines of a slang term for black skinned people, slang term for gay men (or cigarettes), American (everyone not a russian on EU server is american), and a slang for vagina.)
Jetaap
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France4814 Posts
February 13 2013 11:03 GMT
#7049
On February 13 2013 10:15 Lightspeaker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2013 09:54 Jetaap wrote:
On February 13 2013 08:18 Lightspeaker wrote:
And now 20 more losses than wins and a seven loss streak (discounting one win resulting from a first minute disconnect followed by mass disconnect). And that last win was only because I had Drow.

There is no way this matchmaking is balanced. There is no way that every single game I play I come up against teams that work ganks, buy detection, TP support against our ganks and all sorts of other good stuff. There is no way that having a team that feeds ten kills in as many minutes against a team that manages to pull off perfect 5-man teamfights is balanced matchmaking. There is absolutely no goddamn way that people in my games should not be able to last hit effectively, its just unacceptable. Autoattacking is just unacceptable at ANY level.

I've had literally one enjoyable game in the past few days which was close and back and forth and we lost because our carries weren't able to out-carry the opposing carries. That's fine. It happens. Some people have bad games or are just weaker players. What is NOT fine is not understanding the basic damn principles of the game. Or knowing how to build a hero considering there are guides EVERYWHERE.

I am literally totally out of answers for what the hell to do at this point. I play bad? We lose. I play well? We lose. I carry? Supports compete for farm and feed to hell. I support? Carry can't last hit and builds Vanguard first on Antimage. Play initiator? Team never actually engages when I initiate. Play ganker? I get a few kills until the opposing team wards everywhere.


Edit: And THIS game is over before it started. 500+ win guy on the other side gets firstpick drow. -_-

Edit2: Yup. I was right. Best part of this? Our 500+ win guy picked Wisp.


The game is really streaky, I was on a 7 game losing streak, with games that I litteraly could not win no matter what I did for 6 of them ( leavers, or mass feeders). Now I got 6 good games, with a team that communicates, that resulted in enjoyable games, eventhough some where a bit of a stomp.
Dont give up hope, if you're on a bad losing streak take a little break from dota, maybe try to queue with a friend for the next few games and things should get better.


Haven't had back to back wins for two weeks. Haven't won four games in a row since January. Haven't won five in a row since the start of December. On the flipside I'm comfortably on a nine game loss streak if you exclude the one win due to mass disconnect in <5 mins. I used to think it was streaky too. Now I'm pretty certain its out to get me for getting up to nearly 54% win rate at one point.

Its just utterly unbelievable. My last three games:
- Batrider mid vs OD. I finish highest kills, highest assists, second to least deaths on my team. Horrendous loss, according to Axe my fault for not totally shutting down OD. As opposed to the fact that they had a four carry lineup which got majorly fed and our one carry was Meepo.
- Omniknight supporting Doom vs Axe and Warlock. Horrendous fight but just about manage to be even. Drow mid gets totally out of hand and everyone dies.
- Skeleton King supported by Crystal Maiden vs Spirit Breaker and Visage. CM autoattacks and pushes lane until I eventually get her to stop. Still tries to compete for farm. Manage to survive a hell of a lot and we do ok in lane. Suddenly random Ursa pops up out of nowhere with six kills on him because top has been feeding like hell. Game just snowballs because I can't get enough farm to outlast a fed Ursa.

And I'd queue with a friend but frankly there's nobody I really play with regularly or I'd be doing it all the time.


Seriously considering just making a fresh account. Because I'm pretty sure this account is permalocked into MMR hell. Which is a shame, because its my main steam account.

Mind linking your dotabuff account? It seems really surprising . Depending on the hours you play you might want to try to play on USeast, I had bad games there but it's also where I got my most enjoyable ones, with people on mic actively communicating.
ZasZ.
Profile Joined May 2010
United States2911 Posts
February 13 2013 15:43 GMT
#7050
On February 13 2013 19:40 Ricjames wrote:
I queued for a captain mode with my friend yesterday. When we connected, i started to write suggestions to our captain looking for some discussion regarding bans and picks. The captain has chosen 2 bans and 2 heroes without discussing anything. When i demanded some communication, he just wrote la-la-la music into chat and then proceeded to do whatever he wanted.

What kind of behaviour is that? I understand that he can be skilled and knows good hero combinatons and counters, but he actually wasted time and ruined the game for other 9 players, because 4 people got heroes they didn't want and can't play that well which results into a shitty game, which does not benefit anyone.

Well yeah, FUCK THAT DOUCHE.. sorry i had to vent, i wold probably stomp his face if i met him at that moment.


No one on your team could play 4 of the heroes he picked? Unless he picked a seriously FUBAR'd comp, that's on you guys, not on him. When you queue for CM without a full stack, you're running the risk of getting a captain who doesn't want your input, and that's fine. The mode is just as much a way for people to get better at drafting as it is a way for people to get better at playing the game itself. If he just picks the heroes you want him to, so that everyone gets a hero they like and are comfortable with, why not just play AP?

When I roll the captain in CM, I take suggestions from people in chat, but it's still my decision and I'm not going to pick a shitty hero or one that doesn't work with our lanes just because someone on my team wants to play it. Them's the breaks in CM.

On-topic QQ: AR game where the opposing team managed to roll PL, KotL, Drow, Venge, and Bat with no repicks. Kill me.
yrt123
Profile Joined October 2012
Singapore1246 Posts
February 13 2013 15:48 GMT
#7051
On February 13 2013 19:46 Excludos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2013 17:27 yrt123 wrote:
On February 13 2013 17:04 eu.exodus wrote:
On February 13 2013 15:01 DR.Ham wrote:
Pop Quiz!

Your team: Medusa, Natures Prophet, Bounty Hunter, Rubick and Visage.

How do you pick you lanes?

Probably not like this:

+ Show Spoiler +

Hard Lane:
Rubick

Mid:
Natures Prophet

Easy Lane:
Bounty Hunter (I need the farm idiots) and Visage

Jungle:
Medusa


Rubick fed a Centaur 6 kills in 6 minutes. GG.

Fuck pubs.


all random game.

how would you lane:

bounty hunter, slardar, rubick, lina, furion?

my instinct tells me slardar + lina top. Bounty hunter solo suicide, furion jungle, rubick mid. I am however a "noop American pig Slardar" (from South Africa) and the correct way is
+ Show Spoiler +
slardar solo safe lane against kunka + sniper, lina mid, bounty hunter + rubick hard lane and rage when the person with the best chance of carrying the game can't farm.


Too many people think that safe lane should be solo with a jungler in team because jungle is nearer to safe lane so easier to help the lane. But most of the time jungler just does his thing and the solo gets bent over again and again.

QQ: Supports contesting me for last hit when I'm carry and also being contested by enemy team because 'if you're good you'll get them anyways'. Guess I suck.


You need to realise that if you can't get any farm as the carry, you're just an idiot, despite of whatever reason you weren't able to do so..like rubbish lanes, teammates feeding, no teamwork, no one TPs when you get ganked after running past 2 of your own towers, no wards, etc.
(Also, the words they're using is generally not "idiot". Its more in the lines of a slang term for black skinned people, slang term for gay men (or cigarettes), American (everyone not a russian on EU server is american), and a slang for vagina.)


I didn't say I couldn't get ANY farm. But if your team is getting trashed around(ended 6-31 with one abandon somewhere around 10 min in the game. Surely you have games like these too or is your pub experience so fabulous you never ever lost such one sided games before) I'd like to see you carry. Of course, its possible but really, how often are you gonna be able to do that. Especially in a solo queue. Are you gonna call me an idiot for solo queueing now? Man seriously, scolding people in QQ thread without provocation.
Really, if you wanna QQ about fail carries, you don't need to scold other people in the thread to do it. Just QQ away.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
February 13 2013 15:50 GMT
#7052
Yeah, AR is funny. Rolled Weaver/Ursa/PL/Jugg +1 agi (I forget which). The +1 repicked into... MORPHLING AWWW YEAH.

Thankfully, team was chill and we won anyways with basically huge outplays and good communication. Good teammates are out there... somewhere.
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GentleDrill
Profile Joined June 2011
United Kingdom672 Posts
February 13 2013 16:14 GMT
#7053
On February 14 2013 00:48 yrt123 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2013 19:46 Excludos wrote:
On February 13 2013 17:27 yrt123 wrote:
On February 13 2013 17:04 eu.exodus wrote:
On February 13 2013 15:01 DR.Ham wrote:
Pop Quiz!

Your team: Medusa, Natures Prophet, Bounty Hunter, Rubick and Visage.

How do you pick you lanes?

Probably not like this:

+ Show Spoiler +

Hard Lane:
Rubick

Mid:
Natures Prophet

Easy Lane:
Bounty Hunter (I need the farm idiots) and Visage

Jungle:
Medusa


Rubick fed a Centaur 6 kills in 6 minutes. GG.

Fuck pubs.


all random game.

how would you lane:

bounty hunter, slardar, rubick, lina, furion?

my instinct tells me slardar + lina top. Bounty hunter solo suicide, furion jungle, rubick mid. I am however a "noop American pig Slardar" (from South Africa) and the correct way is
+ Show Spoiler +
slardar solo safe lane against kunka + sniper, lina mid, bounty hunter + rubick hard lane and rage when the person with the best chance of carrying the game can't farm.


Too many people think that safe lane should be solo with a jungler in team because jungle is nearer to safe lane so easier to help the lane. But most of the time jungler just does his thing and the solo gets bent over again and again.

QQ: Supports contesting me for last hit when I'm carry and also being contested by enemy team because 'if you're good you'll get them anyways'. Guess I suck.


You need to realise that if you can't get any farm as the carry, you're just an idiot, despite of whatever reason you weren't able to do so..like rubbish lanes, teammates feeding, no teamwork, no one TPs when you get ganked after running past 2 of your own towers, no wards, etc.
(Also, the words they're using is generally not "idiot". Its more in the lines of a slang term for black skinned people, slang term for gay men (or cigarettes), American (everyone not a russian on EU server is american), and a slang for vagina.)


I didn't say I couldn't get ANY farm. But if your team is getting trashed around(ended 6-31 with one abandon somewhere around 10 min in the game. Surely you have games like these too or is your pub experience so fabulous you never ever lost such one sided games before) I'd like to see you carry. Of course, its possible but really, how often are you gonna be able to do that. Especially in a solo queue. Are you gonna call me an idiot for solo queueing now? Man seriously, scolding people in QQ thread without provocation.
Really, if you wanna QQ about fail carries, you don't need to scold other people in the thread to do it. Just QQ away.


Pretty sure his post was ironic.
10734
Profile Joined September 2012
340 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-13 16:30:40
February 13 2013 16:28 GMT
#7054
"stfu void can lane anywhere", leaving me (undying) and lina in the safe lane.
Ricjames
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Czech Republic1047 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-13 16:34:47
February 13 2013 16:30 GMT
#7055
On February 14 2013 00:43 ZasZ. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2013 19:40 Ricjames wrote:
I queued for a captain mode with my friend yesterday. When we connected, i started to write suggestions to our captain looking for some discussion regarding bans and picks. The captain has chosen 2 bans and 2 heroes without discussing anything. When i demanded some communication, he just wrote la-la-la music into chat and then proceeded to do whatever he wanted.

What kind of behaviour is that? I understand that he can be skilled and knows good hero combinatons and counters, but he actually wasted time and ruined the game for other 9 players, because 4 people got heroes they didn't want and can't play that well which results into a shitty game, which does not benefit anyone.

Well yeah, FUCK THAT DOUCHE.. sorry i had to vent, i wold probably stomp his face if i met him at that moment.


No one on your team could play 4 of the heroes he picked? Unless he picked a seriously FUBAR'd comp, that's on you guys, not on him. When you queue for CM without a full stack, you're running the risk of getting a captain who doesn't want your input, and that's fine. The mode is just as much a way for people to get better at drafting as it is a way for people to get better at playing the game itself. If he just picks the heroes you want him to, so that everyone gets a hero they like and are comfortable with, why not just play AP?

When I roll the captain in CM, I take suggestions from people in chat, but it's still my decision and I'm not going to pick a shitty hero or one that doesn't work with our lanes just because someone on my team wants to play it. Them's the breaks in CM.

On-topic QQ: AR game where the opposing team managed to roll PL, KotL, Drow, Venge, and Bat with no repicks. Kill me.



I understand what you say about CM. The problem was that he did not communicate at all. It should be a matter of discussion. I am not going to waste time playing a hero i am not comfortable with at all, especially when i am a little tired and it is midnight while i have to get up at 7 am. I can play most heroes fairly well, some better and some worse. But there are still heroes i have not tried and why should i be forced to play those by some fucking wannabe, if i can take perfectly good counter-pick to opponent line up and play well with it.... What the fuck? I can try new heroes on weekend or when i have a time to relax and chill...not when i want to squeeze in one more game before i go to sleep.

The thing is that AP sucks really hard. I play SD or RD and LP. But sometime when i actually want to be able to pick what i want, i go for CM. It is very fun when you can setup your team and modify opponents team by banning uncomfortable heroes. I can still pick a fitting hero without somebody choosing for me, or at least discussing it would be appreciated.

Brood War is the best RTS that has ever been created.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
February 13 2013 17:36 GMT
#7056
L:ALJSL:DFHSDF Faceless void. Backtrack is the dumbest ability.

SO MANY TIMES he backtracked double edge. And split earth. It legitimately felt like he had a BKB at level 2. Every time we hit him with a spell to set up a kill combo, the biggest damage instance got backtracked. All game. It was practically on-command... So dumb. He wasn't even good, he just never got punished for virtual suicide because our spells NEVER DID DAMAGE.
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RoyGBiv_13
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1275 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-13 18:34:48
February 13 2013 18:34 GMT
#7057
On February 14 2013 02:36 Sn0_Man wrote:
L:ALJSL:DFHSDF Faceless void. Backtrack is the dumbest ability.

SO MANY TIMES he backtracked double edge. And split earth. It legitimately felt like he had a BKB at level 2. Every time we hit him with a spell to set up a kill combo, the biggest damage instance got backtracked. All game. It was practically on-command... So dumb. He wasn't even good, he just never got punished for virtual suicide because our spells NEVER DID DAMAGE.


For every game lost by the RNG, there is a game where for some reason you first-hit-bash every time. It just so happens that games lost were very close, and the RNG just pushed it over (frustrating), and the ones with random numbers on your side are the games where you win every lane anyway (equally frustrating).

... On that note, I'm playing furion. A darkseer is running away at 150 hp, so I nuke a creep standing right next to him in the lane and my ult bounces to every other creep, giving darkseer the time to run into fow. It's clear I don't understand this game....
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
February 13 2013 18:42 GMT
#7058
On February 14 2013 03:34 RoyGBiv_13 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2013 02:36 Sn0_Man wrote:
L:ALJSL:DFHSDF Faceless void. Backtrack is the dumbest ability.

SO MANY TIMES he backtracked double edge. And split earth. It legitimately felt like he had a BKB at level 2. Every time we hit him with a spell to set up a kill combo, the biggest damage instance got backtracked. All game. It was practically on-command... So dumb. He wasn't even good, he just never got punished for virtual suicide because our spells NEVER DID DAMAGE.


For every game lost by the RNG, there is a game where for some reason you first-hit-bash every time. It just so happens that games lost were very close, and the RNG just pushed it over (frustrating), and the ones with random numbers on your side are the games where you win every lane anyway (equally frustrating).

... On that note, I'm playing furion. A darkseer is running away at 150 hp, so I nuke a creep standing right next to him in the lane and my ult bounces to every other creep, giving darkseer the time to run into fow. It's clear I don't understand this game....


Your ult is ground-targeted. Aim it so that it is nearer him than any other creep (doesn't actually have to be near him, just farther away from the creeps).

The game I lost vs void wasn't terribly close, but it should have been a lot closer if he didn't avoid 3 certain deaths from double edge backtracks (in a row).
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Last Edited: 2013-02-13 19:03:54
February 13 2013 19:00 GMT
#7059
I'm getting practically fatalistic now.

I can summarise this game I'm about to lose in seven words:
Huskar, twelve tangoes, four clarities into boots.


Oh, he also only spoke polish and autoattacked all game.

Yeah. I'm REALLY getting screwed by matchmaking. I'm sorry, accuse me of Dunning–Kruger effect all you want, but I AM better than these people.


On February 13 2013 20:03 Jetaap wrote:
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On February 13 2013 10:15 Lightspeaker wrote:
On February 13 2013 09:54 Jetaap wrote:
On February 13 2013 08:18 Lightspeaker wrote:
And now 20 more losses than wins and a seven loss streak (discounting one win resulting from a first minute disconnect followed by mass disconnect). And that last win was only because I had Drow.

There is no way this matchmaking is balanced. There is no way that every single game I play I come up against teams that work ganks, buy detection, TP support against our ganks and all sorts of other good stuff. There is no way that having a team that feeds ten kills in as many minutes against a team that manages to pull off perfect 5-man teamfights is balanced matchmaking. There is absolutely no goddamn way that people in my games should not be able to last hit effectively, its just unacceptable. Autoattacking is just unacceptable at ANY level.

I've had literally one enjoyable game in the past few days which was close and back and forth and we lost because our carries weren't able to out-carry the opposing carries. That's fine. It happens. Some people have bad games or are just weaker players. What is NOT fine is not understanding the basic damn principles of the game. Or knowing how to build a hero considering there are guides EVERYWHERE.

I am literally totally out of answers for what the hell to do at this point. I play bad? We lose. I play well? We lose. I carry? Supports compete for farm and feed to hell. I support? Carry can't last hit and builds Vanguard first on Antimage. Play initiator? Team never actually engages when I initiate. Play ganker? I get a few kills until the opposing team wards everywhere.


Edit: And THIS game is over before it started. 500+ win guy on the other side gets firstpick drow. -_-

Edit2: Yup. I was right. Best part of this? Our 500+ win guy picked Wisp.


The game is really streaky, I was on a 7 game losing streak, with games that I litteraly could not win no matter what I did for 6 of them ( leavers, or mass feeders). Now I got 6 good games, with a team that communicates, that resulted in enjoyable games, eventhough some where a bit of a stomp.
Dont give up hope, if you're on a bad losing streak take a little break from dota, maybe try to queue with a friend for the next few games and things should get better.


Haven't had back to back wins for two weeks. Haven't won four games in a row since January. Haven't won five in a row since the start of December. On the flipside I'm comfortably on a nine game loss streak if you exclude the one win due to mass disconnect in <5 mins. I used to think it was streaky too. Now I'm pretty certain its out to get me for getting up to nearly 54% win rate at one point.

Its just utterly unbelievable. My last three games:
- Batrider mid vs OD. I finish highest kills, highest assists, second to least deaths on my team. Horrendous loss, according to Axe my fault for not totally shutting down OD. As opposed to the fact that they had a four carry lineup which got majorly fed and our one carry was Meepo.
- Omniknight supporting Doom vs Axe and Warlock. Horrendous fight but just about manage to be even. Drow mid gets totally out of hand and everyone dies.
- Skeleton King supported by Crystal Maiden vs Spirit Breaker and Visage. CM autoattacks and pushes lane until I eventually get her to stop. Still tries to compete for farm. Manage to survive a hell of a lot and we do ok in lane. Suddenly random Ursa pops up out of nowhere with six kills on him because top has been feeding like hell. Game just snowballs because I can't get enough farm to outlast a fed Ursa.

And I'd queue with a friend but frankly there's nobody I really play with regularly or I'd be doing it all the time.


Seriously considering just making a fresh account. Because I'm pretty sure this account is permalocked into MMR hell. Which is a shame, because its my main steam account.

Mind linking your dotabuff account? It seems really surprising . Depending on the hours you play you might want to try to play on USeast, I had bad games there but it's also where I got my most enjoyable ones, with people on mic actively communicating.


Eh. I can message you it if you really want. I'm not keen on linking my account on here since its my main steam account and stuff. Its just my way.

And actually I queue US east most of the time now. I started adding back in EU West after the language addition thing but I'm removing it again right now. Doesn't help at all.
"Protoss simultaneously feels unbeatably strong and unwinnably weak." - kcdc
SpiZe
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada3640 Posts
February 13 2013 19:57 GMT
#7060
After playing a couple of CM with a stack of friends (not Team Matchmaking, just regular CM queue), I learned something invaluable : If you are a stack of 4, the random guy is always going to be captain. It's just unavoidable. He will be the captain and won't listen to input or suggestion, even when you tell him you are 4 friends. He will disregard the "ban magnus" and proceed to ban Necrolyte because "I just don't like playing against him xDDDDDDD" and Morphling because "teams at the international were banning him so stfu".

Jesus...
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