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On February 01 2013 18:53 Domus wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2013 15:17 Tevinhead wrote:
All 4 people on my team could not speak English, it was so frustrating as I couldn't communicate anything with them, I asked them several times politely if they would speak English, they just replied in their own language. Then I vented my frustrations in all chat. Turns out the 5 people on the other team, could not speak English either. I definitely queue'd for EU west, and yet no one speaks English?
I love Dota 2 so much, but this makes pubbing so painful for me =/. You are aware that the UK/Ireland is the only place in Europe that speaks English right? Believe it or not, the rest of Europe speaks other languages and might not be inclined or able to speak your language! How good is your French, German, Spanish, or Russian anyway? Go play on US if you want to speak English, or accept the melting pot of languages in Europe  . Anyway, my only QQ is that I don't understand how this matchmaking system balances. It feels very random. Like this weekend I went 10 losses/1 win, but during that week I was at 10 wins/1 loss, and now this week again I am at 12 wins/2 loss or something. And it is hard to get an even match, yesterday I went 28/2 in a match, that is just not supposed to happen...Are most people not pub and is that why the system has a hard time getting something compatible going, or is the ranking system in dota2 fubar? Never had this problem in SC2...
valve matchmaking designed to keep you at a 50% winrate
if you win some you WILL lose some
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Carries are so fucking irrelevant in this game. It doesn't matter how FUCKING well I can farm. 15 min radiance. Manta and Diffusal also up by 30 min. Fucking team just feed all fucking game. Warlock with Aga, Refresher and bloodstone at 30 mins. Fuck literally everyone.
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On February 01 2013 19:25 evilfatsh1t wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2013 18:53 Domus wrote:On February 01 2013 15:17 Tevinhead wrote:
All 4 people on my team could not speak English, it was so frustrating as I couldn't communicate anything with them, I asked them several times politely if they would speak English, they just replied in their own language. Then I vented my frustrations in all chat. Turns out the 5 people on the other team, could not speak English either. I definitely queue'd for EU west, and yet no one speaks English?
I love Dota 2 so much, but this makes pubbing so painful for me =/. You are aware that the UK/Ireland is the only place in Europe that speaks English right? Believe it or not, the rest of Europe speaks other languages and might not be inclined or able to speak your language! How good is your French, German, Spanish, or Russian anyway? Go play on US if you want to speak English, or accept the melting pot of languages in Europe . Anyway, my only QQ is that I don't understand how this matchmaking system balances. It feels very random. Like this weekend I went 10 losses/1 win, but during that week I was at 10 wins/1 loss, and now this week again I am at 12 wins/2 loss or something. And it is hard to get an even match, yesterday I went 28/2 in a match, that is just not supposed to happen...Are most people not pub and is that why the system has a hard time getting something compatible going, or is the ranking system in dota2 fubar? Never had this problem in SC2... valve matchmaking designed to keep you at a 50% winrate if you win some you WILL lose some
It was not. It was designed to try and match you against people of your skill level. Achieving close to 50% winrate is simply a result of their matchmaking, rather than the cause of what you are matchmaked with.
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Playing squishy support sucks in pubs, but someone has to do it. Then Zeus loses mid to AA after going naked bottle first, finally gets first boots 12 mins in because he bought back like 3 times in that time to try killing with his ult but failed every time.
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Now I'm playing with a fucking meepo mid who is just feeding. Teamgames really make me hate mankind sometimes. The average human is about as smart as a fucking ape.
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On February 01 2013 19:30 Firebolt145 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2013 19:25 evilfatsh1t wrote:On February 01 2013 18:53 Domus wrote:On February 01 2013 15:17 Tevinhead wrote:
All 4 people on my team could not speak English, it was so frustrating as I couldn't communicate anything with them, I asked them several times politely if they would speak English, they just replied in their own language. Then I vented my frustrations in all chat. Turns out the 5 people on the other team, could not speak English either. I definitely queue'd for EU west, and yet no one speaks English?
I love Dota 2 so much, but this makes pubbing so painful for me =/. You are aware that the UK/Ireland is the only place in Europe that speaks English right? Believe it or not, the rest of Europe speaks other languages and might not be inclined or able to speak your language! How good is your French, German, Spanish, or Russian anyway? Go play on US if you want to speak English, or accept the melting pot of languages in Europe . Anyway, my only QQ is that I don't understand how this matchmaking system balances. It feels very random. Like this weekend I went 10 losses/1 win, but during that week I was at 10 wins/1 loss, and now this week again I am at 12 wins/2 loss or something. And it is hard to get an even match, yesterday I went 28/2 in a match, that is just not supposed to happen...Are most people not pub and is that why the system has a hard time getting something compatible going, or is the ranking system in dota2 fubar? Never had this problem in SC2... valve matchmaking designed to keep you at a 50% winrate if you win some you WILL lose some It was not. It was designed to try and match you against people of your skill level. Achieving close to 50% winrate is simply a result of their matchmaking, rather than the cause of what you are matchmaked with.
Are you saying that people doing stupid things in your game are people of the same skill level as you? Or the noob on the opposing team that keeps feeding you? I find it highly unlikely that they just randomly sucked for that one game. Meh, I guess the MM is just too volatile for solo queue. QQ.
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On February 01 2013 20:36 yrt123 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2013 19:30 Firebolt145 wrote:On February 01 2013 19:25 evilfatsh1t wrote:On February 01 2013 18:53 Domus wrote:On February 01 2013 15:17 Tevinhead wrote:
All 4 people on my team could not speak English, it was so frustrating as I couldn't communicate anything with them, I asked them several times politely if they would speak English, they just replied in their own language. Then I vented my frustrations in all chat. Turns out the 5 people on the other team, could not speak English either. I definitely queue'd for EU west, and yet no one speaks English?
I love Dota 2 so much, but this makes pubbing so painful for me =/. You are aware that the UK/Ireland is the only place in Europe that speaks English right? Believe it or not, the rest of Europe speaks other languages and might not be inclined or able to speak your language! How good is your French, German, Spanish, or Russian anyway? Go play on US if you want to speak English, or accept the melting pot of languages in Europe . Anyway, my only QQ is that I don't understand how this matchmaking system balances. It feels very random. Like this weekend I went 10 losses/1 win, but during that week I was at 10 wins/1 loss, and now this week again I am at 12 wins/2 loss or something. And it is hard to get an even match, yesterday I went 28/2 in a match, that is just not supposed to happen...Are most people not pub and is that why the system has a hard time getting something compatible going, or is the ranking system in dota2 fubar? Never had this problem in SC2... valve matchmaking designed to keep you at a 50% winrate if you win some you WILL lose some It was not. It was designed to try and match you against people of your skill level. Achieving close to 50% winrate is simply a result of their matchmaking, rather than the cause of what you are matchmaked with. Are you saying that people doing stupid things in your game are people of the same skill level as you?
More often than not, yes, and they're just having bad games.
Once you stop focusing on 'omg valve's MM sucks' and start focusing on 'well, I guess they're just having bad games, I have bad games too', you start to enjoy Dota a lot more.
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Level 1 Medusa tries ancienting, gets fucked in the ass constantly, then we lose.
4 loss streak, let's keep it rolling.
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Tinker didn't even go for boots of travel... Or is this somehow a legit build somewhere.
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On February 01 2013 20:36 yrt123 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2013 19:30 Firebolt145 wrote:On February 01 2013 19:25 evilfatsh1t wrote:On February 01 2013 18:53 Domus wrote:On February 01 2013 15:17 Tevinhead wrote:
All 4 people on my team could not speak English, it was so frustrating as I couldn't communicate anything with them, I asked them several times politely if they would speak English, they just replied in their own language. Then I vented my frustrations in all chat. Turns out the 5 people on the other team, could not speak English either. I definitely queue'd for EU west, and yet no one speaks English?
I love Dota 2 so much, but this makes pubbing so painful for me =/. You are aware that the UK/Ireland is the only place in Europe that speaks English right? Believe it or not, the rest of Europe speaks other languages and might not be inclined or able to speak your language! How good is your French, German, Spanish, or Russian anyway? Go play on US if you want to speak English, or accept the melting pot of languages in Europe . Anyway, my only QQ is that I don't understand how this matchmaking system balances. It feels very random. Like this weekend I went 10 losses/1 win, but during that week I was at 10 wins/1 loss, and now this week again I am at 12 wins/2 loss or something. And it is hard to get an even match, yesterday I went 28/2 in a match, that is just not supposed to happen...Are most people not pub and is that why the system has a hard time getting something compatible going, or is the ranking system in dota2 fubar? Never had this problem in SC2... valve matchmaking designed to keep you at a 50% winrate if you win some you WILL lose some It was not. It was designed to try and match you against people of your skill level. Achieving close to 50% winrate is simply a result of their matchmaking, rather than the cause of what you are matchmaked with. Are you saying that people doing stupid things in your game are people of the same skill level as you? Or the noob on the opposing team that keeps feeding you? I find it highly unlikely that they just randomly sucked for that one game. Meh, I guess the MM is just too volatile for solo queue. QQ.
You've never heard of having a bad game? It happens even for professional players in tournament games.
EVERYBODY has bad games.
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On February 01 2013 20:36 yrt123 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2013 19:30 Firebolt145 wrote:On February 01 2013 19:25 evilfatsh1t wrote:On February 01 2013 18:53 Domus wrote:On February 01 2013 15:17 Tevinhead wrote:
All 4 people on my team could not speak English, it was so frustrating as I couldn't communicate anything with them, I asked them several times politely if they would speak English, they just replied in their own language. Then I vented my frustrations in all chat. Turns out the 5 people on the other team, could not speak English either. I definitely queue'd for EU west, and yet no one speaks English?
I love Dota 2 so much, but this makes pubbing so painful for me =/. You are aware that the UK/Ireland is the only place in Europe that speaks English right? Believe it or not, the rest of Europe speaks other languages and might not be inclined or able to speak your language! How good is your French, German, Spanish, or Russian anyway? Go play on US if you want to speak English, or accept the melting pot of languages in Europe . Anyway, my only QQ is that I don't understand how this matchmaking system balances. It feels very random. Like this weekend I went 10 losses/1 win, but during that week I was at 10 wins/1 loss, and now this week again I am at 12 wins/2 loss or something. And it is hard to get an even match, yesterday I went 28/2 in a match, that is just not supposed to happen...Are most people not pub and is that why the system has a hard time getting something compatible going, or is the ranking system in dota2 fubar? Never had this problem in SC2... valve matchmaking designed to keep you at a 50% winrate if you win some you WILL lose some It was not. It was designed to try and match you against people of your skill level. Achieving close to 50% winrate is simply a result of their matchmaking, rather than the cause of what you are matchmaked with. Are you saying that people doing stupid things in your game are people of the same skill level as you? Or the noob on the opposing team that keeps feeding you? I find it highly unlikely that they just randomly sucked for that one game. Meh, I guess the MM is just too volatile for solo queue. QQ.
You're right, they probably randomly sucked on several occasions, as we humans do.
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This won't be a typical QQ, but i have found out that Silencer is pretty OP in pub games if you have at least some competent people in yor team. I am on 8 winning streak with him solo queue. When you know how to use his ulti, you usually take out 1 or 2 opponents in team fights and they can't do anything about it. Then you just push 5v3.
I even had a really good meepo on my team yesterday, i guess it was just a lucky day.
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On February 01 2013 19:29 Zealos wrote:
Carries are so fucking irrelevant in this game. It doesn't matter how FUCKING well I can farm. 15 min radiance. Manta and Diffusal also up by 30 min. Fucking team just feed all fucking game. Warlock with Aga, Refresher and bloodstone at 30 mins. Fuck literally everyone.
Hilarious. I love the quadruple golem drop.
On February 01 2013 23:08 Nisyax wrote:
Tinker didn't even go for boots of travel... Or is this somehow a legit build somewhere.
I had 3 Tinkers in a row on my team that all A) never got March, dumped into stats and B) got Arcane boots instead of BoT
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On February 02 2013 00:20 Dexington wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2013 19:29 Zealos wrote:
Carries are so fucking irrelevant in this game. It doesn't matter how FUCKING well I can farm. 15 min radiance. Manta and Diffusal also up by 30 min. Fucking team just feed all fucking game. Warlock with Aga, Refresher and bloodstone at 30 mins. Fuck literally everyone. Hilarious. I love the quadruple golem drop. Show nested quote +On February 01 2013 23:08 Nisyax wrote:
Tinker didn't even go for boots of travel... Or is this somehow a legit build somewhere. I had 3 Tinkers in a row on my team that all A) never got March, dumped into stats and B) got Arcane boots instead of BoT
so he can refresh and reuse that arcane boots! persuado aoe kotl? =D
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I am done with this retarded 'playing for the team' mindset. Buying ward is like a curse to some people and you can expect these people dont even have a fcking clue how to use ward at all. So instead of distracting myself by keep worrying 'that should be a ward there' or 'how nice if we have a vision/dust/sentry now', I decided to just play my games like on my smurf where I dont give a single fck to the team and expect 0 support, just exactly like every fcking pub game out there.
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On February 02 2013 01:44 BurningSera wrote:
I am done with this retarded 'playing for the team' mindset. Buying ward is like a curse to some people and you can expect these people dont even have a fcking clue how to use ward at all. So instead of distracting myself by keep worrying 'that should be a ward there' or 'how nice if we have a vision/dust/sentry now', I decided to just play my games like on my smurf where I dont give a single fck to the team and expect 0 support, just exactly like every fcking pub game out there.
Awesome! Did the exact same thing this morning, after I played a game on my main. Went to the runespot, hammered a ward into the ground and our carry started to ping me for 30 seconds saying: "you're not helping what the fuck are you doing walking around in nowhere"
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On February 01 2013 19:25 evilfatsh1t wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2013 18:53 Domus wrote:On February 01 2013 15:17 Tevinhead wrote:
All 4 people on my team could not speak English, it was so frustrating as I couldn't communicate anything with them, I asked them several times politely if they would speak English, they just replied in their own language. Then I vented my frustrations in all chat. Turns out the 5 people on the other team, could not speak English either. I definitely queue'd for EU west, and yet no one speaks English?
I love Dota 2 so much, but this makes pubbing so painful for me =/. You are aware that the UK/Ireland is the only place in Europe that speaks English right? Believe it or not, the rest of Europe speaks other languages and might not be inclined or able to speak your language! How good is your French, German, Spanish, or Russian anyway? Go play on US if you want to speak English, or accept the melting pot of languages in Europe . Anyway, my only QQ is that I don't understand how this matchmaking system balances. It feels very random. Like this weekend I went 10 losses/1 win, but during that week I was at 10 wins/1 loss, and now this week again I am at 12 wins/2 loss or something. And it is hard to get an even match, yesterday I went 28/2 in a match, that is just not supposed to happen...Are most people not pub and is that why the system has a hard time getting something compatible going, or is the ranking system in dota2 fubar? Never had this problem in SC2... valve matchmaking designed to keep you at a 50% winrate if you win some you WILL lose some
just like in sc2
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I dont really qq since i rarely meet players that are obnoxious or intentional feeding, plain douchebags or whatever.
I only solo q since i have no irl friends that play this game and i have, like everyone else, good games, bad games, feeding games, getting-fed-games, farming games, supporting games, getting-support-games etc.
Feels like too many people put too much into every single game that they lose perspective over the long run. Of course im kicking in an open door here since its a QQ thread, but it would benefit so many if they just calm down for a sec.
I still have some wishes though: I play on very high level, and i expect people to "know" whats going on the game. For instance, lastpickin a hero that doesnt fit at all in the lineup, be it carry, semicarry or whatever. Building the "wrong" items, going for battlefury past 20 min mark as gondar when we are getting stomped in teamfights because of disables and that sort of thing. I do expect people to know these things, but if they dont. thats ok too, as long as they are willing to take some advice.
Unfortunately, few people are, and thats what i wanna change the most. People listening to eachother.
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On February 02 2013 01:53 smr wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2013 01:44 BurningSera wrote:
I am done with this retarded 'playing for the team' mindset. Buying ward is like a curse to some people and you can expect these people dont even have a fcking clue how to use ward at all. So instead of distracting myself by keep worrying 'that should be a ward there' or 'how nice if we have a vision/dust/sentry now', I decided to just play my games like on my smurf where I dont give a single fck to the team and expect 0 support, just exactly like every fcking pub game out there. Awesome! Did the exact same thing this morning, after I played a game on my main. Went to the runespot, hammered a ward into the ground and our carry started to ping me for 30 seconds saying: "you're not helping what the fuck are you doing walking around in nowhere"
The irony is that the next game i got started with support#1: 'i get mek', support#2: 'i get pipe'. Vision may not be that very good but is ok-ish, i even got a set ward for myself to farm. 12mins bfury on jug and the rest of the game is just too easy.
MM god must be reading this thread.
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On February 01 2013 23:12 Unleashing wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2013 20:36 yrt123 wrote:On February 01 2013 19:30 Firebolt145 wrote:On February 01 2013 19:25 evilfatsh1t wrote:On February 01 2013 18:53 Domus wrote:On February 01 2013 15:17 Tevinhead wrote:
All 4 people on my team could not speak English, it was so frustrating as I couldn't communicate anything with them, I asked them several times politely if they would speak English, they just replied in their own language. Then I vented my frustrations in all chat. Turns out the 5 people on the other team, could not speak English either. I definitely queue'd for EU west, and yet no one speaks English?
I love Dota 2 so much, but this makes pubbing so painful for me =/. You are aware that the UK/Ireland is the only place in Europe that speaks English right? Believe it or not, the rest of Europe speaks other languages and might not be inclined or able to speak your language! How good is your French, German, Spanish, or Russian anyway? Go play on US if you want to speak English, or accept the melting pot of languages in Europe . Anyway, my only QQ is that I don't understand how this matchmaking system balances. It feels very random. Like this weekend I went 10 losses/1 win, but during that week I was at 10 wins/1 loss, and now this week again I am at 12 wins/2 loss or something. And it is hard to get an even match, yesterday I went 28/2 in a match, that is just not supposed to happen...Are most people not pub and is that why the system has a hard time getting something compatible going, or is the ranking system in dota2 fubar? Never had this problem in SC2... valve matchmaking designed to keep you at a 50% winrate if you win some you WILL lose some It was not. It was designed to try and match you against people of your skill level. Achieving close to 50% winrate is simply a result of their matchmaking, rather than the cause of what you are matchmaked with. Are you saying that people doing stupid things in your game are people of the same skill level as you? Or the noob on the opposing team that keeps feeding you? I find it highly unlikely that they just randomly sucked for that one game. Meh, I guess the MM is just too volatile for solo queue. QQ. You've never heard of having a bad game? It happens even for professional players in tournament games. EVERYBODY has bad games.
There's a difference between making fundamentally bad choices (brewmaster/morphling lane because you're friends and then let rubick/dazzle go to another lane, aghanim scepter first item on lina, no points in illuminate on kotl, etc.) and having a bad game, though.
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